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on Thu Jan 15, 2004 03:36 PM
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from the let-the-rumors-start-flying dept.
Stop reading if you're spoiler paranoid. ChazeFroy writes "The actor who played Chewbacca in the original Star Wars trilogy, Peter Mayhew, will be in Episode III. Of course, this has been previously reported and comes as no surprise. However, TheForce is reporting that Mayhew's contract contains a stipulation that he must also appear in Episodes 7, 8, and 9. This was first reported in the British movie magazine Hot Dog, whose December issue with this news just hit US newstands."
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Better be Zahn's Trilogy. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Better be Zahn's Trilogy. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Better be Zahn's Trilogy. (Score:5, Interesting)
Watch epII and Minority Report back to back. They both were made a virtually the same time so they both had the same CG technology available. Watch the big-fight-in-a-factory scene that is present in both. There is no comparison. epII is cartoony and almost amaturish by comparison to to the work of Spielberg.
You can compare scenes throughout epI and epII to similar sceens in other movies with similar results. Lucas is a mediocre director at best. A number of good directors would produce much better movies than Lucas if they had the same high quality actors and technology available on epI & II, even if they were saddled with the same script.
TW
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Re:Better be Zahn's Trilogy. (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re:Better be Zahn's Trilogy. (Score:4, Funny)
They killed JarJar?
-matt
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Sequel Names... (Score:5, Funny)
Star Wars Episode 8: Beating a Dead Horse
Star Wars Episode 9: Please God, Make it Stop Already!
Re:Sequel Names... (Score:4, Funny)
Star Wars Episode 7: Revenge of the Mutant Ewoks
Star Wars Episode 8: The 20-Foot Tall Love Slave from Venus
Star Wars Episode 9: Jar Jar Binks vs. The Lost Dragon Vampire Ninjas
Jedi Binks? [templetons.com]
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Edit in Ep IV... (Score:4, Funny)
The floating torture droid has been removed and replaced with a TV and DVD carousel player...
[Vader places Ep's 1-3 and 7-9 in carousel]
Vader: [finger poised over Play button] So Princess, where is the Rebels' secret base?
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force powers (Score:5, Funny)
The future is always cloudy.
Oh great (Score:5, Funny)
3 times the crap! (Score:5, Insightful)
I have to say, as much as I love Star Wars, I will have to seriously think about even going to see Episode 3. I'm not terribly hopeful. 3 more movies just doesn't fill me with any joy any more. From a worldwide love to a worldwide joke. Now -that's- a screwup.
Re:3 times the crap! (Score:5, Insightful)
I, on the other hand, have no problem letting ANOTHER person tell HIS story the way he sees fit. I either like it or dislike it - I don't take it as a personal attack on my childhood.
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i hate the prequels as much as the next guy... (Score:5, Insightful)
Unless you mean the prequels made you realize how lame the series already was by episode 6. How hokey episode 4 was, and how the pinnacle of the series was directed and largely rewritten by people other than Lucas. That could understandably rob you of fond memories. Of course, just watching them again older and wiser would probably have done that.
I could also understand the anger if you were referring to the Greedo-shooting-first destruction of the original series called the 'Special Editions'. But you're not.
my pet theory is that the special editions, and episodes 1, and 2 are precisely the kinds of movies Lucas wanted to make from the beginning.
episode iv represented his first shot, and doubtlessly had piles of constructive criticism and rewrites. then it was proven a cash cow, and the sequel was given to a different director and featured much more rewriting. (largely hailed as the pinnacle of starwars). Then Lucas got control back, and turned out Jedi.
After more time and money, he skull-f#cked the original trilogy with the special editions. then came episode 1 and the truth was unavoidable. episode 2 was salt on a gaping wound.
Without actual creative criticism, Lucas just doesn't churn out the movies we always thought he wanted to make.
It's like the Wachowskis. They probably rewrote the first Matrix a dozen times and were making huge changes even to the shooting script. But who's going to slow down the process of making sequels to a cash cow by saying 'Whoa, guys - you've got some pacing issues that need to be fixed here, and some lame ass dialogue'?
No-one in Hollywood.
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No, 4, 5, and 6 were much better (Score:5, Interesting)
Unless you mean the prequels made you realize how lame the series already was by episode 6. How hokey episode 4 was, and how the pinnacle of the series was directed and largely rewritten by people other than Lucas. That could understandably rob you of fond memories. Of course, just watching them again older and wiser would probably have done that.
I hate to tell you this but I *have* watched the original trilogy since I was a kid. In fact, I probably watch the original trilogy about 3 times every year. I still enjoy them. You may argue that my positive feelings about those films are because I'm remembering my childhood or something. But I think they were substancially different than the new stuff.
Why? The characters. The original trilogy had likeable characters who were really giving it their all to take back the galaxy. Solo was a great guy. You could feel for what Luke was going through. Leia was clearly struggling with how to give all the parts of herself equal time. The rebellion doesn't have much but, boy, do they have heart! The Jedi, on the other hand, strike me as really a bunch or arrogant elite who seem to not be doing a very good job of anything. Anakin is just a spoiled brat. Obi Wan seems to have some ability but he never gets awfully worked up about anything. Yoda and Mace just sit around looking pensive and occasionally whip out their lightsabres. I wouldn't want to sit down and have a beer with any of those guys. They're just do damn boring.
Now let's look at the villans. Sure, in the original series the stormtroopers could never shoot straight but you knew that Vader was running the show most of the times and so it seemed like the Empire had a real chance of crushing the freedom fighters. In Ep 6 we see that Vader is starting to weaken a bit but then we're introduced to the Emperor who is even more powerful than Vader. *This* guy really knows his shit and he seems to delight in tormenting Luke. To put it simply, the bad guys were fearsome and competant. Now look at the bad guys from Ep 1 and 2. Darth Maul was cool but never really given a chance to say much. The Viceroy and the other Trade Federation weenies seem utterly incompetant. And Palpatine and Dooku have yet to do anything really horribly dispicable. It's hard to get worked up about these bad guys.
So there you have my theory. Characters are what makes the difference between the old and the new trilogy. Basically the old one had characters you could love and hate. The new one just has a bunch of guys dancing around in a CGI videogame.
GMD
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Re:No, 4, 5, and 6 were much better (Score:5, Insightful)
Agreed.
The Jedi, on the other hand, strike me as really a bunch or arrogant elite who seem to not be doing a very good job of anything.Also agree, but are you saying this made Ep I/II bad? Granted, I and II had problems, but this is not one of them. Yes, the Jedi are a bunch of stuck-up, arrogant buttheads. That's one of the main points of the movie. We're likely to see this play out more in Ep III. Much of the Jedis' downfall is by their own hand. They got too used to their power and to the status quo to see more than a few inches in front of their face. You're supposed to doubt them at this point.
And Palpatine and Dooku have yet to do anything really horribly dispicable. It's hard to get worked up about these bad guys.I think that's one of the reasons why people have trouble with Ep I/II. We're essentially seeing the story out-of-sequence. We started in the middle of the story, where the battle lines were very clearly drawn, and everyone had already put on their white or black hats. In Ep I/II, this has not happened yet. The ones that become or pave the way for the great villians of the later movies have no choice but to act in secret. To me, Palpatine's machinations in the Senate echo the events of the rise of the Nazi party to power and Hitler's ascension to Chancellor (hell, even the title is the same!) in Germany circa the 1930s.
I sometimes wonder how people might have reacted had the movies been produced and released in the actual chronological order that the events happen. It might have garnered a different reaction. Yeah, the screenplays could have been better written, but I think the overall story still plays well, and would have played better in the proper sequence.
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Re:3 times the crap! (Score:4, Interesting)
That has already happened and unless George Lucas goes around lobotomising his audience there is no way it can un-happen. If you feel that your wallet has been raped then maybe you shouldn't have bought the DVD or the action figures. Spending money on a movie ticket is like forced sex to you? Someone has to get their sense of perspective checked and it is not me.
Needed to get this off my chest. So much in fact that I will throw in an extra point for the moderators to take away from me.
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Contracts... (Score:5, Insightful)
IMNAAA (not an acting agent), but isn't this just the sort of thing that gets tossed into lower-paid actor's contracts when a studio is simply hedging its bets? I like the 'bacca as well as the next dude, but he is probably paid less than, say Harrison Ford, on average. It seems likely to me that it wouldn't cost the studio much (if anything) to obligate him in this regard.
Now, if the face-time Ep. 6 folks (Ford, Fisher, Hamilton, et al.) start getting signed into contracts like this then we would be talking.
Too Old (Score:5, Insightful)
I wouldn't take stock in this. How old is George Lucas now, 55 60? It takes him roughly 8-10 years a trilogy. He'ld be in a wheelchair by the time he finished the next ones if he even lived that long. I would think he wants to move on and do other things. And who would play all the original roles. All the main actors have not aged well and it would be very shitty to not have Mark Hammil reprise his role as Luke Skywalker or Harrison Ford play Han Solo.
Re:Too Old (Score:5, Insightful)
Funny you should say that. I remember, years ago (around the time of Episode V), George Lucas was asked if the main actors would be back for episodes VII, VIII, and IX; his reply was "sure, if they can be made to look old enough." The implication was that he wanted to set the final trilogy a few decades after the end of Episode VI.
On the other hand, his more recent comment was that he "Never really had a story" for the final trilogy.
On the gripping hand, it's clear that not having a story never really stops him. I refuse to believe that he planned all along for young Skywalker to build C-3PO, for example. I refuse to believe that during filming of Episode IV that he had already planned that Darth Vader would have grown up on Tattooine. I strongly suspect that the whole Luke/Leia being brother/sister was invented after he already had finished Episode IV. He just makes stuff up and sticks it on.
Star Wars is great not because of George Lucas, who got the ball rolling, but because of the contributions of so many people. The sets, costumes, and effects represent man-years of work by many people. At this point you could take Star Wars out of George Lucas's hands and make new movies. (Sadly, they might be better movies for that; George Lucas's recent track record isn't great.)
I predict we'll see Episodes VII, VIII, and IX someday, no matter what George Lucas says now. And we'll probably see other movies as well. (I'd like to see some "Jedi Academy" movies.)
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It just won't be the same if not... (Score:5, Funny)
Well I would HOPE SO! If anyone but Peter Mayhew played Chewbacca I just don't think it would pass... I mean, it takes some serious talent to walk around in a big furry costume for a while... And while they're at it they better get the same people for C3P0 and Vader or this movie just won't quite work!
-matt
Mark Hammil responds... (Score:4, Funny)
CA$H (Score:5, Informative)
Episode I: $431,088,295
Episode II: $310,675,583
I think what we're seeing here are at least + 741,000,000 reasons Lucas is considering 7,8,9.
Re:CA$H (Score:5, Interesting)
Star Wars - $979 million
The Empire Strikes Back - $547 million
Return of the Jedi - $524 million
The Phantom Menace - $475 million
Attack of the Clones - $310 million
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The Death Script (Score:5, Funny)
Most likely their own organs went into revolt. Geeks everywhere left Episode II with their brains subconciously chanting: "If you are so stupid to watch the next one, I will KILL YOU!"
~D
didya hear that? (Score:5, Funny)
7,8 & 9 (Score:4, Funny)
Nothing a few million $ couldn't rectify.
So what would Episodes 7-9 be like...
<Daydream Sequence>
Star Wars, Episode 7: A New Threat
Synopsis: Luke and Leia get married and head off on a honeymoon, leaving Han Solo and Chewbacca to watch over selection of the new senate. Han Solo gets bored and starts hyperspace download site of music and video content against the wishes of the immensely powerful IGRIMPAA (Inter Galactic Recording Industry and Motion Picture Artists Association), a thinly veiled group of thugs and bandits who have kept entertainers in thrall. Big cruisers appear out of hyperspace around Coruscant and Jar Jar Bings, in their employe serves subpoenas, furthering audience animosity.
Star Wars, Episode 8: Just An Awufl Mess
Synopsis: Luke and Leia return to Coruscant and find the IGRIMPAA firmly running things, Han Solo and Chewbacca rotting in prison and several worlds in outright rebellion. Luke procedes to reform a Jedi council, but finds space cruiser bombs going off all over the place. President Jar Jar Binks attempts to alay Luke's concerns, until it's found Leia has an ePod loaded with bootleg tunes from Naboo. Jar Jar reveals well kept secret that he is master of dark side and cuts off Luke's other hand in epic lightsabre battle. Han and Chewy come to rescue and all flee to the a distant world only to find another massive Deathstar built with IGRIMPAA profits.
Star Wars, Episode 9: Last of the Red-Hot Jedi
Synopsis: Luke and Leia's child, Xyzzy, demonstrates great skill with the force and greater skill with the source, hacks into DeathStar and shuts it down, in a bit of a special effects let-down, just see big ball with lights go out, no explosion. Luke and Leia return to Coruscant, along with Han and Chewbacca and in a final battle Luke duels with Jar Jar, both slice each other in half and last threat is brought to an end, except for offspring of Skywalkers, who demonstrates a slight inclination to power and position and a bit of an angry streak. We've been here before, no?
</Daydream Sequence>
Dialogue for Episode III: (Score:5, Funny)
George Lucas: You can't win, Peter. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
C-3PO: R2 says that the chances of episodes 7-9 surviving are 725 to 1. Actually R2 has been known to make mistakes... from time to time... Oh dear...
C-3PO: Sir, the possibility of successfully extending this series is approximately 3,720 to 1!
Lucas: Never tell me the odds!
These stories will come after the "New Jedi Order" (Score:4, Interesting)
Horrible, horrible, yet we can't look away (Score:4, Insightful)
1. What percentage of geeks expect to see EpIII?
2. Of those going to see EpIII, what percentage expect it to be anything other than a suckfest?
Anticipated answers:
1. 95%
2. 1%
If GL makes VII-IX, you KNOW everyone is going to go. How can he pass up the chance to make that much money on what amounts to another 9 years of playing with cool toys without any need to work on boring stuff like sympathetic characters or realistic dialog?
This is evidence of very little ... (Score:4, Interesting)
It's a great way to give both actors and the audience some hope for more movies, and it lets them worry a little less about the 'how' of making more movies by already having actors lined up and contracts signed. Sheesh. Can't you boys be a little more skeptical?
Look at him... (Score:4, Funny)
H: I think I can get him before he gets there...he's almost in range.
(the small movie begins to take on the appearance of another trilogy)
B: That's no movie. It's Episode III.
H: The trailer's too good to be Episode III.
L: I have a very bad feeling about this.
H: Yeah, I think you're right. Full reverse! Chewie, lock in the auxiliary power. (the ship begins to shudder) Chewie, lock in the auxiliary power!
L: Why are we still moving towards it?
H: We're caught in the Lucas beam! It's pulling us in!
L: But there's gotta be something you can do!
H: There's nothing I can do about it, kid, I've already seen Episodes I and II. I'm going to have to shut down. But they're not going to get me without a fight!
How about Peter Jackson does VII-IX? (Score:5, Funny)
So, if Lucas doesn't want to do VII-IX himself, that's fine, but how about he let Jackson take over? You end up with a vastly superior sequel trilogy, and we'd probably get the movies 1 year apart instead of 3.
Some suggestions for Mr. Lucas (Score:5, Interesting)
1. Hire some real writers. You got help with Empire and it was the best movie to date. Don't try to do it yourself, you're real talent lies elsewhere.
2. Hire another director. Get somebody like Peter Jackson who can film the trilogy all at once. We don't like waiting years between movies. 1 year max between releases.
3. If it's cute. Leave it out. No more muppet'y characters like the Ewoks. No more frickin' Jar Jar type characters. I just can't take it. If you would like, I will offer my services for free. You can run this stuff by me and I will tell you if it sucks.
4. Give it an edge like Empire. Your loyal fan base is getting older. We want a real plot without all of the inconsistencies that you have written yourself into in the last two movies. Remember, we're adults now. We we love the world and the characters that you created for us but we really want to experience it on an adult level. I'll say it again. No more Jar Jar's.
5. Concentrate on what you really do best. Keep pushing the state of the art in film production. Push ILM to make the movie better while producing it faster and cheaper than anyone has ever done. Bring the costs of producing epic style movies down to a more reasonable level so that even more young artists can expose us to their visions without having a $100 million bank roll. The less expensive it gets, the more variety we will have.
6. Don't concentrate on making a blockbuster. Just make the best movie that you can and show it to us. We will pay to see it. You don't have to have product tie ins everywhere we go. No more cheesy market deals. No more Jar Jar's (did I already mention that?)
7. I want the new trilogy to hit DVD before I start collecting social security. Besides if you get off your ass on this, you can sell the previous movie on DVD right before you release the next movie. Easy advertising. (Don't do like LOTR though and release a 'normal' DVD and hold out the good one for a month or two. We like that about as much as we adore Jar Jar).
7. Use your influence and $$$ to get us completely digital theaters. We all want to see the new movies on a crystal clear screen that isn't going to be completely degraded the 3rd and 4th time we go to see it. (This assumes that you make them good).
You know what. Forget it all. I'm still pissed about the whole Jar Jar thing.
Re:Oh no! more shit from Lucas to come (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re:Episodes 7, 8, and 9... (Score:4, Funny)
Well, we're in luck then. They might actually be watchable.
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Re:Episode III better rock (Score:5, Funny)
Episode 1 = sucked.
Episode 2 = sucked.
Episode 3 = ?
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Re:Episode III better rock (Score:4, Funny)
Yoda kicking ass was worth a dollar, but I'd've paid full price to see Boba Fett torture and kill Anakin and Amidala. Twice.
Fuck continuity.
-l
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Re:Episode III better rock (Score:5, Funny)
I disagree. No matter how many horrible sequels he puts out, millions of dorks will shell out their money for each one just so see for themselves how bad it is. If they fail to see one, they'll miss out on all the fun when their friends bitch about how bad it was.
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Re:Episode III better rock (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Episode III better rock (Score:5, Interesting)
And yet, I will see Episode 3, and I proudly GM the Star Wars d20 RPG (in a campaign based around the Old Republic era seen in KotOR, thus preventing the players from having to meet up with any damn gungans). If they make a sequel trilogy, even if it isn't based on Zahn's great books, I will go see it. Though I think they can't help but drawn on these guys...come one, Luke and Mara Jade? The tsalmiri? Leia hiding out on a planet of violent assassins, playing up her father's infamy? Even Lucas can't deny that's good stuff!
What can I say? Star Wars is a pleasant fantasy realm that cannot be stifled even by the ineptitude of its creator. I *like* the Star Wars universe, midichlorian bullshit and all.
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Re:Episode III better rock (Score:4, Insightful)
Troll me if you will, but there are lots of peeps out there who like(d) SW feel the same way.
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Re:Episode III better rock (Score:5, Interesting)
heres a list: stolen from http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.p hp/t-20784
Remember, these are only rumors.
Episode IV: A New Hope
01. The Imperial March has been added to Darth Vader's first appearance on
Princess Leia's ship.
02. When Obi-Wan is talking to Luke about his father Anakin's Theme plays
in the background and then it turns into the Imperial March as he talks
about Vader.
03. The lightsaber effects have been redone and the frame jumps of
lightsabers being turned on has been removed.
04. There's a new scene which has been shot during the filming of Episode
III in which the Emperor dissolves the Senate.
05. In the Cantina, the Duros(green aliens guys) have been replaced with
Neimoidians and some aliens from the prequels have been added.
06. The bleeding arm on the floor in the Cantina has been replaced with a
non-bleeding arm because it's now canon that lightsabers cauterize wounds.
07. The original shooting scene between Han and Greedo has been restored.
08. Jabba the Hutt has been given a makeover and Han no longer steps on his
tale.
09. In place of R2 wobbling down the stairs to the Falcon's hangar, a CG R2
navigating the stairs like he does in Attack of the Clones was added.
10. The white boxes around space ships have been removed and new CG shots
have been added.
11. The scene of the Falcon being chased by the two Star Destroyers was
modified. The Falcon now does spinning moves, avoiding the Star Destroyers'
fire.
12. When the Death Star destroys Alderaan there's a new scene of Yoda's
reaction to the disturbance in the Force that is created by all those
deaths and then it cuts to Obi-Wan reacting to it as well.
13. The Dianoga has gotten a CG makeover and were are now able to see more
of the creature.
14. The Death Star's paneling and computers have been slightly altered to
show similar displays to those in the prequels.
15. The words "Tractor Beam" with Aurebesh lettering.
16. More stormtroopers have been added to the Death Star.
17. Temuera Morrison's voice is being recorded for use with all the
stormtroopers.
18. The Obi-Wan/Vader duel has been spruced up. It is much more epic and
there is much more movement. A modified version of Duel of the Fates is
being considered for the scene.
19. The Death Star plans that are taken from R2 have been updated. When the
Rebels are reviewing the Death Star plans they look similar to the plans we
see in Attack of the Clones.
20. The Death Star battle is much more epic with more Tie Fighters and more
Rebels being blown to bits. We get to see old Naboo starfighters being used
by the Rebels.
21. There's a new scene(shot during Episode III) where Darth Vader goes to
Coruscant and lands his ship in the same building Count Dooku does at the
end of Attack of the Clones. Except now the building is all fixed up and it
is now Palpatine's palace. He meets with Palpatine to ask for forgiveness
for his failure and inform him of a new potential who is strong in the Force.
22. Chewbacca now gets a medal.
Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
01. The taun-tauns are now CG.
02. The battle of Hoth is much more epic. We see the Imperial ships land on
Hoth and release AT-ATs. The AT-ATs have been sped up a bit. There's a
ground battle between the Rebel soldiers and stormtroopers featuring new
ships and vehicles.
03. Temuera Morrison's voice is being recorded for the older Boba Fett and
all the stormtroopers.
04. The white boxes around space ships have been removed.
05. The slug monster is CG.
06. Ian McDiarmid has refilmed scenes as the Emperor. The conversations
between Vader and Palpatine is now longer and features a few connections to
the prequels.
07. Yoda's face is now animated in CG allowing more _expression of emotions
yet his movements remain the same. Also tw
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Other movies get the same treatment (Score:5, Funny)
Citizen Kane: Kane finally realizes that he needs therapy and later goes to a yoga retreat in Tahiti.
Catch-22: Most of the airbase crew are arrested and shot for insubordination. Yosarian surrenders the entire base to some Italian villagers.
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Re:Other movies get the same treatment (Score:4, Funny)
Ingrid Bergman wonders what Bacall is doing in this movie and calls her agent.
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Re:Episode III better rock (Score:5, Insightful)
First off, for those of you hoping the battle scenes will be updated, with more vehicles etc - don't hold your breath.
Secondly, the removal of matte lines? You can forget about that one. They had the chance to do that in the last special editions, and they didn't. They chose to put in crappy extra scenes and wreck some of the current ones. Plan on those black lines with the Rancor monster still being there.
And you arent' going to be able to go back and forth between CG and "real" Yodas, R2D2s, Obi-Wans, Vaders, cantina aliens, taun-tauns, ewoks, Jabbas, etc, etc, etc - without disjointing the movie. I'm sorry, but even as good as CG is these days, it still isn't perfect. Maybe you recall, in the Matrix trilogy, Neos fight against the zillion Smiths? Yeah, take a look at Neos clothing during the fight, tell me if you think it looks realistic the whole time...
Here's what I'd like to see:
Release the original movies, on DVD, with no extra special crap whatsoever. No CG. Release them exactly as they played when they first came out.
Release them as they were, and leave them alone. If the old movies don't match the new, its George's fault. He knew when he created "prequels" that he needed to maintain continuity with his other movies. "Fixing" the old movies to match the new ones is wrong.
I'm convinced that the more Lucas tries to "fix" his original triology, the worse it'll get.
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Re:Episode III better rock (Score:5, Funny)
I'd love to see an extra scene in Episode 4 where Jar Jar looks to the heavens and sees the Death Star. And just as the laser fires his last words are "Mesa thinks this is very bom-bad".
(earth shattering)KABOOM!!
wbs.
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Re:Episode III better rock (Score:5, Insightful)
Yoda should have been an old master, using tiny movements and his wits to beat the opponent, instead of acting like a happy-fun-ball.
When I heard he was going to fight I pictured this old kung-foo movie I watched once where the old master defeats like three trained guys, not by being stronger or anything, but by not being where they had expected, moving just enough so they'd miss and then he'd pull them off-balance with a little tug and kick them on their way past. Didn't even break a sweat. That was class. Yoda the flubber-muppet was just sad.
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Re:Episode III better rock (Score:5, Funny)
Hey! Do not taunt happy-fun-ball!
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Re:good news? (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:Times running out (Score:4, Interesting)
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