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Top U.S. Tech Cities

Posted by Zonk on Fri Jan 05, 2007 06:30 PM
from the very-scientific dept.
srizah writes "Wired.com claims to have used a 'scientific methodology' to rate the top 10 tech towns in the US. They use some very reliable indexes, like 'Craigslist postings per capita' or 'Number of attendees at local meetings of dorkbot'. The usual suspects (Seattle, San Francisco) show up on the list, but some might surprise you. From the article: 'Raleigh-Duram - The jocks here may get worked up about college hoops, but the tech set is passionate about Linux distros and Mac-PC holy wars. North Carolina's Triangle is ground zero for Red Hat, SAS Institute, and an IBM center. Bonus: The area hosts two World Beer Festivals a year.'"
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 05 2007, @06:36PM (#17482620)
    Come on, nothing about Provo/Orem? Home of SCO AND Novell? Nothing says tech like "Most mentioned on Groklaw".
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Maybe if someone knew what the hell Provo/Orem means.
      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        Utah. Because when people think Utah, they think tech. Thats what those missionaries are pushing right? Upgrades and virus protection?
        • by Original Replica (908688) on Friday January 05 2007, @07:16PM (#17483032) Journal
          hey Mormon chicks are very frequently HOT, and tend to want lots of kids. Marrying a Utah lass might well be an upgrade and virus protection.
          • by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 05 2007, @08:09PM (#17483474)
            hey Mormon chicks are very frequently HOT, and tend to want lots of kids. Marrying a Utah lass might well be an upgrade and virus protection.

            ... and you can marry as many of them as you want!
          • by DittoBox (978894) on Friday January 05 2007, @08:21PM (#17483568) Homepage
            Brigham Young, Brigham Often.
          • by Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) on Saturday January 06 2007, @12:59AM (#17485602)
            hey Mormon chicks are very frequently HOT,

            Maybe to a basement-bound geek who has somehow managed to never discover any pr0n, much less meet a girl in person.

            Here's what Mark Twain had to say about mormon chicks:

            the Mormon women ... these poor, ungainly and pathetically "homely" creatures ... the man that marries one of them has done an act of Christian charity which entitles him to the kindly applause of mankind, not their harsh censure - and the man that marries sixty of them has done a deed of open-handed generosity so sublime that the nations should stand uncovered in his presence and worship in silence.
  • by sam_champion (1046498) on Friday January 05 2007, @06:39PM (#17482648)
    'Craigslist postings per capita'. Because we all know the number of Craigslist posting is about as scientific as one can get.
      • I found a lovebird hiding in a bush one day a few years ago, in a row of hedges just outside work; obviously someone's pet had escaped. I forget what I originally used to capture it; I think I got it into a paper bag and brought it in. That bird was freaked.

        I went on Craigslist and found someone in the neighborhood who was advertising free bird cages that he was throwing away. So I emailed the guy and he replied with his address, saying he was leaving for work, but the cages would be out front with the tras
        • by khendron (225184) on Friday January 05 2007, @09:29PM (#17484182) Homepage
          Only a true geek would describe lovebird calls as "pinging."

          Well done! But you should have continued and called it the lovebird "handshake" protocol.
          • That's funny, I can't seem to find any place in my posting that disparages Craigslist.

            What's funny? I just saw a chance to tell my Craigslist lovebird story. Your got your Troll and Overrated [slashdot.org] mods from other people.

            However, I would not consider the activity level on the site itself to be any indication of how "tech friendly" a particular location is. All it really takes to utilize the site is a working internet browser and a working level of knowledge towards the site's very existence. A number of people I

  • Does the scientific methodology involve personally sampling the beer festivals? Would be curious to see an equivilant evaluation in england heh :)
  • Heh, filler (Score:5, Insightful)

    by HaeMaker (221642) on Friday January 05 2007, @06:41PM (#17482664) Homepage
    How did this filler article get on Slashdot?

    They have icons in the article that don't appear in the legend. AUSTIN has a spot for an icon without an icon. Somehow, the Bay Area doesn't have a university rating, even though it has Stanford and Cal.

    I could go on, but I wasted enough of my time, and yours.
  • Los Alamos (Score:5, Insightful)

    by metlin (258108) * <narayan@nOsPAM.fas.harvard.edu> on Friday January 05 2007, @06:41PM (#17482668) Homepage Journal
    What about places like Los Alamos (LANL), Albuquerque (SNL, LM etc.) or Batavia (FNAL).

    If by tech they only mean CS related stuff, then sure, that list makes sense.

    But Los Alamos has some of the smartest and best people and has a lot of "real" tech.

    I mean, if particle accelerators, rocket science and weapons tech. don't constitute real technology while AJAX is counted as a technology, I must be missing something.
    • What about Techny, IL? That sounds like a "tech" city to me!
    • I wish I hadn't wasted the last of my mod points in another discussion. Take a virtual +5 from me...the definition of what they mean by 'tech' is seriously myopic any more. As you pointed out, it's not all just SOAP, AJAX and clusters. There's so much more.
    • Maybe it's your definition of "city" that is different from theirs. ;)
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Well...given cities and this comment on Wired regarding the location of Austin "Only downside: It's surrounded by Texas", my Liberal Radar is beeping pretty fast.

      Also, they would never name Los Alamos because they are "da war machine". You know how it goes...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 05 2007, @06:42PM (#17482674)
    Surely that's a negative index. What an utterly useless franchise.

    - chad
  • by NineNine (235196) on Friday January 05 2007, @06:48PM (#17482726) Homepage
    It's "Durham". Jesus, Slashdot editors can't even copy and paste now? Is that a Linux problem?

    But seriously, RDU shouldn't be a surprise. We have Duke, UNC-Chapel Hill, and NC State all within 30 minutes or so from each other, and we have Research Triangle Park [rtp.org] here. Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill was a great, cheap place to enjoy the dot-com boom. We've got IBM (10,000+ employees), Cisco, a small MS office, whatever MCI is now (worldcom?), Nortel, Ericsson, Red Hat, and tons and tons of start ups.

    Also, UNC-Chapel Hill is home to Sunsite, which became ibiblio [ibiblio.org]. So yeah, it's dork heaven, but without the SF prices.
    • We've got IBM (10,000+ employees), Cisco, a small MS office, whatever MCI is now (worldcom?), Nortel, Ericsson, Red Hat, and tons and tons of start ups.

      Not to mention Network Appliance, EMC, Cree Semiconductor, Glaxo-Smith Kline, BASF, LabCorp, Quintiles, Bayer CropScience, Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman, the US Environmental Protection Agency Supercomputer Center and the Sanrio Hello Kitty Store at Crabtree Mall.
  • The top US tech city will be home to whomever invents a device that administers an electric shock to Zonk whenever he approves embarrassingly shitty articles.

    As for the article, what's the deal with the legend? Are they just trying to create the most confusing display of all time?
  • Raliegh/Durham is a good choice but don't forget Atlanta. Lots of things happening there and an overabundance of women! I mean the fast kind of women, they don't have to talk to much before the get their clothes off. At least that was true when I went there a couple of times when single.
  • by joNDoty (774185) on Friday January 05 2007, @07:02PM (#17482872)
    Assuming we can measure these, of course:
    * PC boxes per capita
    * Bittorrent activity
    * Secured wifi networks per capita
    * Wikipedia contributors
    * Middle-aged men/women with same legal residence as parents
    * Slashdot accounts
    * Cowboyneal
    *...others?
    • * Middle-aged men/women with same legal residence as parents
      * Slashdot accounts
      Mod parent redundant/fantasy.
    • Assuming we can measure these, of course:
      * PC boxes per capita

      Iceland wins this category, hands down.

      * Bittorrent activity

      Sweden (Thepiratebay.Org!)

      * Secured wifi networks per capita

      Holland (check out the global wireless mapping projects)

      * Wikipedia contributors

      Iraq? Until they got blocked.

      * Middle-aged men/women with same legal residence as parents

      Italy or Spain. Seriosly.

      *...others?

      Mars doesn't appear to have a high techie density but if water is found, all bets are off.

  • by carlivar (119811) on Friday January 05 2007, @07:03PM (#17482888)
    What about [insert city or region here]?! It has [insert club, university, or company here]!!! Because I live here or went to school here, it MUST be in this list!

    Carl
  • ...but it is nothing without Fry's!
    Please save us?
  • by artifex2004 (766107) on Friday January 05 2007, @07:15PM (#17483012) Journal
    Portland, Oregon, had a free wireless project downtown FIVE YEARS AGO.
    Is Circuit City really sponsoring this? I'd have thought they'd have chosen Fry's, instead, for a techie store.
    The Portland area actually has both, actually.

    And wtf is dorkbot? This seems all about promoting pet projects (or sponsors).
  • This is is going to come up more than a few times, but this just makes no sense whatsoever. Berkeley and Stanford have some of the finest programs in the nation, and are generally regarded as tied with CMU and MIT for #1 PhD program in Computer Science.

    And you have BOTH of them. That seems like a considerable oversight, especially for a tech oriented rag.
  • Slashdot should be able to pull a majority of our IPs and figure out what general area we are browsing the web from. Then you could compare how many unique hits you got from a particular state/providence/country vs the entire population of that area and get a "geek index". Might want to toss something in there for volume as well for corporations/schools, etc. Would not be completely accurate but a hell of a lot closer then the "circuit city index".
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      Assuming geek refers to users of the Internet.

      There are other technologies and sciences out there with far geekier folks (e.g. biology, mathematics, physics, chemistry, various kinds of engineering etc.)

  • by mogrify (828588) on Friday January 05 2007, @07:38PM (#17483218) Homepage

    AUSTIN
    ...Only downside: It's surrounded by Texas.

    While it's clearly true that Austin is surrounded by Texas, that's not actually a downside. Texas has some of the most beautiful landscapes I've ever seen, and the close proximity of many interesting geographical features (Hamilton Pool, Enchanted Rock) is a definite plus for Austin.

    Having grown up there, I'd say the actual downside is that Austin is surrounded by Texans.

    • by b0s0z0ku (752509) on Friday January 05 2007, @07:52PM (#17483332)
      Having grown up there, I'd say the actual downside is that Austin is surrounded by Texans.

      Dude, Texans aren't worse than people anywhere else. In fact, as long as you're not killing anyone, they're probably more likely to leave you alone and not complain than "sophisticated" Easterners and Californians. Every place has its reputation, but everywhere you get cool people and sucky people. Try to find the cool ones and ignore the others. Life's too short to do otherwise.

      -b.

    • by ArcherB (796902) * on Friday January 05 2007, @08:06PM (#17483444) Journal
      I took offense to that too. "Austin is surrounded by Texas."

      In Texas is Houston. Which contains Compaq (HP, now), Woot.com and NASA. Come on, is NASA not techie enough for you? Rice U, medical center and UofH.
      San Antonio has the river walk (Beer fest!) and a slew of military bases.
      Dallas... well, it had a TV show.

      And there ain't nothin' wrong with Texans. Your average Texas redneck will give you the shirt off his back (not that you'd want it), have you over for dinner and offer you a place to stay if you needed it. Who was it that took in all those Katrina evacuees? I'll give you a hint: I didn't see Georgia or even friggin Louisiana stepping up to help out!

      Oh, and Texas girls are some of the hottest anywhere. They qualify as Texas as well! Maybe the author doesn't like girls!

  • by Yosho (135835) on Friday January 05 2007, @08:01PM (#17483412) Homepage
    AUSTIN
    Inspiration for Slacker, epicenter of the first EFF battle, home to Dell, Whole Foods, and South by Southwest. Not to mention host to the most dorkbot attendees in the country. Only downside: It's surrounded by Texas.


    I'm going to have to chime in with the other people who are disagreeing. While it sure is popular to hate on Texas, I'd be willing to be that the vast majority of people who do so have never actually lived here. We've got beautiful landscapes, a low cost-of-living, plenty of space, and three of the top ten largest cities in the US. Yes, the majority of people here consider themselves Republicans, but if you're willing to get past somebody's political views, there are also lots of friendly people. About the only thing I don't like is that the summers get so dang hot.. but the mild winters (unless you live up in the panhandle) make up for it.
  • by sysopd (617656) on Friday January 05 2007, @08:03PM (#17483428)
    What about Portland, OR?

    • Home of Intel
    • Home of Hewlett-Packard
    • Home of Tektronix, FLIR, Mentor Graphics
    • Linus Trovalds moved to Portland from the SF Bay Area
    • O'Reilly Open Source Convention [oreillynet.com]
    • Government Open Source Conference [goscon.org]
    • Open Source Development Labs (OSDL [osdl.org])
    • Large free Wireless project Personal Telco [personaltelco.net]
    • New PSU Open Source lab [osuosl.org]
    • 5th largest Craigslist community [lifeofananarchist.com] (2004)
    • Corporate HQ of Lattice Semiconductor, RadiSys, Planar Systems
    • Home of Sun Microsystems High-End Operations
    • Yahoo!, FEI, Credence Systems, and TriQuint Semiconductor located here
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      Hewlett Packard is based in Silicon Valley. They may have an office in Portland, but the company's history is in California.
  • Frigid?? (Score:4, Funny)

    by Sax Maniac (88550) on Friday January 05 2007, @09:44PM (#17484324) Homepage Journal
    BOSTON... Winters may be frigid, but at least there are lots of single nerds to hibernate with.
    It was in the low 60s today here in Boston. Great timing, Wired.
  • by foonf (447461) on Friday January 05 2007, @10:28PM (#17484652) Homepage
    The usual suspects (Seattle, San Francisco) show up on the list, but some might surprise you.

    I looked at the list, and in fact it was mostly the usual suspects. I mean everyone knows there is a big tech presence in Raleigh/Durham and Austin. About the only really surprising inclusion is Orlando, and it was the most poorly justified of all of them. Substitute Portland, OR for Orlando on their list and you have basically the conventional wisdom on what the major tech centers in the US are.
    • Re:Irvine (Score:5, Insightful)

      by doktor-hladnjak (650513) on Friday January 05 2007, @06:51PM (#17482754)
      Lots of suburban wasteland hell. Personally, I'd rather eat glass than go back to working there. So many boring IT companies doing boring stuff too. Yuck, but I guess somebody has to do it somewhere.
      • Re:Irvine (Score:4, Interesting)

        by carlivar (119811) on Friday January 05 2007, @07:06PM (#17482920)
        I assume you are talking about Irvine, California. It sucks for sure. Too many "planned communities" around there. Barf.

        The rule of thumb for me is: if you have to do a U-Turn to get to a business on the left side of the street, I don't want to live or work there.

        Irvine does get bonus points for the UC-Irvine mascot being the Anteater, however.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          Too many "planned communities" around there.

          Agreed. I'd have to get approval from the homeowners committee to put up an antenna for WiFi. I'd have to stop coding and go out a cut my lawn because the homeowners committee had a meeting last night and decided my grass was too long. The homeowners committee won't let me fly my model helicopter around because it makes too much noise. Forget doing my own car repairs in the driveway...

          No way.

          About the only advantage Irvine has is lots of bike trails.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      It is because the list can't figure out which it is, Most Geek or Most Tech.

      I mean, they talk about the top 10 Tech Towns, but then it is more about where to be a geek than where to find tech. Thus the inclusion of Circuit City Stores (which IMHO don't belong on a Geek list), because "geeks shop there". Also look at the inclusion of Comic book shops, personal ads, and Dorkbot.

      Sorry, but I thought this was a list of top Tech towns. But it is a list of top geek towns, and as a resident of Austin, I am emba