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Robotech Heading to Big Screen, Starring Toby Maguire

Posted by CmdrTaco on Sun Sep 09, 2007 09:33 AM
from the but-who-will-ruin-it-by-playing-minmay dept.
dominique_cimafranca writes "Classic anime cult favorite "Robotech" may be next for the big screen live action treatment, if recent news from SciFi.com's SCI FI Wire is to be believed. Tobey Maguire will produce and may star in the film. The article says 'Warner Brothers Pictures picked up the rights to Robotech, which features giant robots known as mechas. Maguire is producing through his Maguire Entertainment banner and is eyeing the lead role in what the studio plans as an SF franchise a la Paramount's hit Transformers.'" I wonder if they'll go back to the Macross source material when plotting the movie... there's a lot more good substance there then in our version.
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  • by Anonymous Coward
    in spectacular "me too" action!

    As long as he doesn't f-it up along the lines of Spiderman III. Of course, Transformers mostly sucked too. Maybe the higher-level storyline in Robotech will allow for a better movie? Go go Hollywood crap pump!
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      Considering the source material for Transformers, just how could you have made a live action movie any different when space alien robots decided to transform into truck to fight compat jets?
        • But the movie made a lot of money! It HAD to be good!
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          [...]then have blurry, confusing fight scenes which make it really hard to figure out who's fighting who and what the hell's happening?

          Transformers is hardly the only culprit here. The "handycam perspective" has been destroying films for years now.

          I used to think it was done just so the director could cheap out on the choreography (after all, it doesn't have to be good when the audience can barely see what's happening), but they're so prevalent now, even in big-budget films, that I can only conclude tha

    • by xero314 (722674) on Sunday September 09 2007, @03:59PM (#20531349)
      Maybe they can follow this up with a live action Urotsukidoji [wikipedia.org]. I mean if they were able to bring The Story of Riki [wikipedia.org] to the big screen live action style, I can't see why they can't do the same for tentacled demonic sex.
  • The version we got in the US is much more "Hollywood-like": It has romance, a love circle, heroes fighting to save the country/planet/whatever, and nearly-stereotypical villains.
    • To be fair, the original Japanese version of Macross has that too - that isn't specifically the difference between Robotech and the original source material.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          Uhh.. actually, it's the other way around.

          Battletech, was actually the second version of the game. The orignal (which I still have a copy of) was called Battledroids. Both came after Robotech (well, actually after the japanese version - Macross), which itself was likely influenced by such shows as Battle of the planets, Star Blazers, and Voltron. (all of which are the American names for Japanese series, often totally unrelated to the storylines of the american versions)

          See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat [wikipedia.org]
    • Yeah, honestly. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Valdrax (32670) on Sunday September 09 2007, @10:10AM (#20528525)
      Anyone who thinks that a Hollywood, live-action movie remake of an extremely long running cartoon show is somehow going to be more true to the original story than the American cartoon has never, ever, in their entire life watched any American movie based on a cartoon or video game.

      Ever.

      Posing the question is tantamount to trolling on the front page.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        Anyone who thinks that a Hollywood, live-action movie remake of an extremely long running cartoon show is somehow going to be more true to the original story than the American cartoon has never, ever, in their entire life watched any American movie based on a cartoon or video game.

        How is that any different than the vast majority of any Hollywood produced films based upon any previously written storyline? They always change the ending and fuck up a good bit of the story along the way and it's part of why wa
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Apparently, all the mechs in this re-write, will be powered by stored energy of Cory Doctorow's ego.
  • by Chas (5144) on Sunday September 09 2007, @09:44AM (#20528371) Homepage Journal
    Part of me is going:

      OOOH! AHHG! YES!

    But another part of me is wondering how well this is going to translate into live action. And whether or not it's going to wind up stepping all over the beloved (though flawed) series that introduced so many people to anime.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Just as long as they improve the music, oh please let them improve the music. Even as a kid the english version concert episodes made me want to clap my hands to my ears and roll on the floor in agony.
      • I liked the music.... After I made it through 7 episodes.. It grew on me.. its catchy, you'll sing it to yourself. and its instantly recognizable.
    • by certron (57841) on Sunday September 09 2007, @10:12AM (#20528539) Homepage
      What I am perhaps most worried about is that they will try to cram the three chapters/ages of what we know as Robotech in the US into one movie. This would be a mistake, I feel. However, I would also hope they would take enough time for some character development. Roy Fokker plays a huge role in the first chapter, even if he is... otherwise indisposed. Will I care, at that point in the film, that he is making an exit? Will the characters of Claudia and Rick, believably?

      One thing that they absolutely need: an orchestra.
      One thing they can do without in a movie, but which was crucial to the series: a narrator.

      I almost want to say the first arc could be made into a trilogy by itself. The discovery, development, training, the first fold, being lost, death, first contact(s), spies, micronization, destruction, reconstruction, more destruction, etc are going to be hard to squeeze into a single movie, even if it turns into "Dances with Bretai" and is 3 hours long. The main problem I had with The Sentinels was that we were introduced to a whole new alien race, find out they are bad, and see them defeated in the span of 90 minutes. While I'm sure part of it is latent Comic Book Guy "It was better when I was 8 years old" feelings, I'm pretty sure they would have taken 5 episodes of introduction and explanation for me to care that anything happened to them.

      For some reason, when thinking about the Mospedia chapter, I keep thinking of the danger room from X-Men III. Mostly, the scrapyards.

        • I could see him doing the producer role, but unless we have some serious makeup and suspension of disbelief, I don't think he'll fly as Dana Sterling.

          Oh, you said 3 movies for each chapter... nevermind. :-)
    • Flaws in original programming never seem to be a problem.

      Take Red Dwarf. The first three series were filmed on cheap sets, with minimal budgets, and, well, the props were mostly crap. And yet the result was pure gold. Never before had I encountered something so funny that I almost pissed myself laughing.

      The problem arise when people with big budgets try to recapture that, it never seems to work. In the case of Red Dwarf the final three series were well funded, had lots of resources, and the result was at be
    • Part of me is going:

      OOOH! AHHG! YES!

      But another part of me is wondering how well this is going to translate into live action. And whether or not it's going to wind up stepping all over the beloved (though flawed) series that introduced so many people to anime.

      I'm going to spoil it for you: this movie's gonna go down like slugs on toast. There's no way it's going to be good from an objective point of view. There's also no way it will be subjectively as good, either. I was a kid when I first encountered Robotech. I encountered it when I was like nine or ten. It appealed to me at first because it was animated and had transforming robots. But once I got into the story, holy shit. Love, loss, death, consequences, this was not just some Transformers knock-off. Why di

  • by Channard (693317) on Sunday September 09 2007, @09:44AM (#20528373) Journal
    Clearly, nothing can beat the stop motion awesomeness that was Robot Jox.
  • I've got a big screen, in my TV room. My 50" set is a large fraction of the size of many movies I see in theaters, especially when I go see a fringe or rerun movie, or just wait until it's about to leave the theaters.

    What I want is PS3 videogames that have a long, detailed "attract mode" [wikipedia.org]: a script that runs the game through its paces. Once someone has "solved" these games, there isn't any reason that a script showing how it's played through shouldn't be available. I'd love to leave my big screen TV set play
    • Well, there are people in China/Korea who earn their money by playing games for westerners. Perhaps you can get them to play the game for you via VNC.

      Bert
      Who has someone in India to run his lava lamp.
      • That is so crazy that it would probably work. But I have in mind doing all the rendering locally. Maybe if their championship bouts could be recorded as events and replayed... We might see people commissioning competitive performances to watch played on the PS3, rather than video. "Mechanime Performance" is born!
    • I'm sure there are plenty of kids willing to come play games on your PS3 for you. If you can convince them/their parents you're not a pedophile or serial killer, that is.
      • I'm trying to replace them with a machine. Cheaper and more reliable, without stealing my comic books.
    • I would love to see a screen saver using MAME ROMs? I haven't found a good one so far. :(
    • I have this [thangorodrim.net] as my laptop's screensaver.
  • plural (Score:4, Informative)

    by J05H (5625) on Sunday September 09 2007, @09:54AM (#20528417) Homepage
    "Mecha" not "mechas". The same way that "deers" or "mooses" are incorrect. One mecha or many mecha, there is no S at the end.

    Besides that, a Robotech live-action with today's 3D animation will absolutely rock! It'd be hard to pack into 2 hours, but I'd like to see some of the 2nd and 3rd Robotech series (and/or Macross Plus) mecha involved, since they look so cool.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      "Mecha" not "mechas". The same way that "deers" or "mooses" are incorrect. One mecha or many mecha, there is no S at the end.
      Except that "deers" and "mooses", you know, actually exist.
  • by TomHandy (578620) <tomhandy @ g m a i l . com> on Sunday September 09 2007, @10:02AM (#20528475)
    It is very unlikely they'll be going back to the "source material" on this one, as there are still a lot of disputes between Harmony Gold and Tatsunoko and Big West. At the very least, they aren't likely to be able to use things like the original Macross Valkyrie (aka Veritech) designs, and they may not even have the rights to redo the original story.

    Of course, with Warner Bros. in the fray now, they might actually work out the IP rights, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

  • Macross source (Score:4, Interesting)

    by zakezuke (229119) on Sunday September 09 2007, @10:12AM (#20528541)
    While I and most enjoyed Macross over Robotech. The big difference I can remember was Macross dealt with the idea of proculture, as in culture before the giant aliens became genetically modified, where Robotech strung on two unrelated anime fighting over a mythical engery source known as proculture. Such a big difference in story lines would make it difficult to integrate actual Macross sequels and prequils. Near as I'm aware the only sequel, Macross Plus [wikipedia.org], was released in English though away from the Harmony Gold treatment.

    A number of "Robotech" movies were planned, all canceled. This is one of those cases where I feel the fans suffered by a company holding onto to their intellectual property far too long without actually using it.
    • There have actually been a number of follow-ups to Macross (though it's no MS Gundam). There was Macross: Do You Remember Love (basically the movie version of the show), Macross II (which no one liked, and isn't considered in-canon, IIRC), Macross Plus, Macross 7, and the prequel, Macross Zero. And some little things like Flashback 2012. Personally, I'd suggest watching Macross Plus and Macross Zero. The others aren't really that good.

      Robotech, meanwhile, had a sequel in The Sentinels, but it died. Nothing
      • There have actually been a number of follow-ups to Macross (though it's no MS Gundam). There was Macross: Do You Remember Love (basically the movie version of the show), Macross II (which no one liked, and isn't considered in-canon, IIRC), Macross Plus, Macross 7, and the prequel, Macross Zero. And some little things like Flashback 2012. Personally, I'd suggest watching Macross Plus and Macross Zero. The others aren't really that good.

        Yes, there were follow-ups to Macross, but not really for Robotech with apparently "The Sentinels" which was canned as a series and reworked into film length. But again that was 20 years ago. There were some ideas slated for Robotech not nothing ever completed.

        To me more clear, Macross is a different animal to Robotech. Macross centered around the idea that culture is the most powerful force. This is even apparent in Macross 7. Macross Plus while released in English isn't really apart of Robotech.

        Most

  • by Robotech_Master (14247) on Sunday September 09 2007, @10:19AM (#20528577) Homepage Journal
    I will be interviewing Harmony Gold representative Kevin McKeever at 7:00 Eastern tonight about this and other new Robotech developments on my live talk podcast Space Station Liberty [terrania.us]. Please call in with your questions!
  • This would have a lot more potential as a TV series, in order to properly contain the epic saga storyline.
    • You seriously don't expect the movie to contain ALL the storyline, do you?

      I think it'll be the beginning of the story, when the SDF1 crashed the Earth, and the first Zentraedi attacks. My prediction is that it'll end up in a strategic victory (i.e. Earth isn't destroyed... for now) in the middle of the storyline, of course, AFTER the SDF1 is teleported to Pluto.
  • Is making crap considered a good idea?

    It's clearly a clone of Transformers, which was about as shit as you get. So what? Someone decides to copy it because they can't think of anything better?

     
  • Or Tobey Maquire's voice is really annoying? I mean, I like the guy and he did well in Spiderman, apparently he's doing well producing his own features too, which is great. Wish him all the luck.

    But god damn it his voice is pissing me off. I'll be ok if he stars in this movie as long as he doesn't speak.
  • keep it real (Score:3, Insightful)

    by TRRosen (720617) on Sunday September 09 2007, @10:53AM (#20528793)
    Roy better die in the movie. Its such a pivotal point.
  • Bring it on! (Score:3, Insightful)

    If Transformers showed one thing it's that computer graphics were created to render gigantic robot fights.
  • Tread carefully... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by zelik (1131765) on Sunday September 09 2007, @01:39PM (#20530223) Homepage
    Robotech, or the Japanese original Macross, is a very very sacred franchise... Just go look up the Robotech wikipedia and you'll learn that this thing is just as big if not bigger than the whole Gundam series which is still on going and is like the Apple ipod of Anime mecha series. My opinion? Don't mess around with this unless you've got your head screwed on real tight. This to the anime aficionados is like Star Wars. There is much at stake. If you've seen the Macross movie you'll understand why. So touching, so well done. The American version is really........a joke. I'm sorry, the songs "Star light, star bright" really didn't do the originals justice. The original franchise could have been grandiose if the corporations didn't get involved and muck it all up. (again, read wikipedia for more info). Sorry, ranting while inebriated. I just really hope that Mr. Toby doesn't think that he can cash in on transformers and screw around with this one. I for one, do not wish to see screwed up versions of my childhood toys/robots. Have you seen the transformers toys that are being sold now a days? I mean, honestly, are kids nowadays that retarded? I have nephews and the optimus prime they are playing with is a lot more simplified and retarded than what I had as a kid. Shoot, I would think we progress as the generations roll forward, not backwards. With brilliance in kids such as Geohot who can crack the iphone while still in high school I feel the marketing depts. in big corporate really need to be fired for taking two steps backwards. Anyways, enough of rant, I just realllllllly hope they do this movie justice. No, Robotech was a joke and melding 3 different animations was a stupid stupid AOL/time-warner merger style move. Just keep it simple and close to what the original storyline held and you'll win the love of fans/fanatics and newbies alike. Think Lord of The Rings and you'll win in Spades. And god, please don't dumb down the toys or change the valkyre.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      I thought slashdot would have picked it up already but Joust, the 1982 video game with gladiators on flying ostriches is being made into a movie,... somehow?

      They were knights (the game was loosely medieval-themed) and yeah you're right [gamerflicks.com] there is supposed to be a movie. Weird. Paramount is looking at it, the article says.

      Still, once Paramount passes on the idea and they can't find another major production house to pick it up, it'll probably go direct-to-DVD. Maybe kill off an evening with it that way.
    • Hmmm. Interesting.
      At the top of my head:
      Macross Saga
      Zhang Ziyi as Lynn Minmei
      Jennifer Aniston as Lisa Hayes
      Yup. I agree. Owen Wilson as Roy Fokker
      Topher Grace as Max Sterling
      Claudia Grant? Halle Berry!

      And if ever...
      Robotech Masters
      Claire Danes as Dana Sterling
      Wilmer Valderrama as Bowie
      Keanu Reeves as Zor

      Robotech Invid
      Matt Damon as Scott Bernard
      Orlando Bloom as Lancer (aka Yellow dancer)
      Reese Witherspoon as Rook Bartley

      That's all I can think of now...
      • Just a couple comments...

        Zhang Ziyi as Lynn Minmei

        God you're high. Unless Minmei gets to kick some ass... nahhh. Of course, I'm in favor of Zhang Ziyi (sp?) in anything, but this doesn't look like a movie for her... wait, Miriya. Yeah, cast ZZ as Miriya. That would add the distinctive flavor of awesome to the film. And, if memory serves, we'd get to see ZZ painted green.

        Yup. I agree. Owen Wilson as Roy Fokker

        Ok. He's got enough experience now that he can probably carry a leadership/mentor role. In the movie
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      I'm doubtful this will end up going anywhere. It's only in development, they don't have a script, it's Tobey's first real movie as a producer, and the guy they've brought on to do the writing is an unknown. Tobey just wants a sweet development paycheck-- after five years alternating between Brett Ratner and the Walchowski brothers to direct, and half-a-dozen "it" girls "attached" for Lynn Minmei, the project will die quietly, with Tobey $5 million richer.

      On the other hand, he might get really attached to