NIN Releases Garageband Sources For 3 New Tracks
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CowboyNeal
on Fri Apr 27, 2007 01:06 AM
from the play-it-your-way dept.
from the play-it-your-way dept.
Kethinov writes "Nine Inch Nails has once again released the sources in Garageband format for three of their tracks from their new album Year Zero. You can also download user-created remixes. Trent Reznor claims that he plans to release the entire album this way."
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alset_tech writes "Trent Reznor (of Nine Inch Nails) has released the new single from NIN's upcoming album as a GarageBand file for fan remixes. Though by no means the first time a major-label artist has released a track to the public for remix, this is the first time such a project has been as open to the common user. The repercussions to 'traditional' IP views in music could be beneficial to all. Note that the license agreement does not allow commercial use of the included sounds. From the download text: 'What I'm giving you in this file is the actual multi-track audio session for 'the hand that feeds' in GarageBand format. This is the entire thing bounced over from the actual Pro Tools session we recorded it into. I imported and converted the tracks into AppleLoop format so the size would be reasonable and the tempo flexible.'"
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Also released in 'Generic Format'... (Score:5, Informative)
RIAA (Score:4, Funny)
BNL also has a number of remixable songs (Score:3, Informative)
These cost $2.49 for each song-related set of tracks (all in WAV) but that's more than fair for a bunch of lossless tracks that you can use for whatever. Pretend to be Ed or Steve just by leaving out a track and filling in yourself!
Offtopic? You can use these with GarageBand too. (Score:2)
Some people may like BNL more than NIN. For those people, BNL also offers a fun exploration of remixing with good quality tracks.
Why don't you actually follow link... (Score:5, Informative)
You didn't have to ASSume anything (proving out the old saying in the process), simply following the link you find this text:
For the first time in Barenaked Ladies history we are making available for download multitracks of our songs. May we introduce "Easy", "Wind It Up", "Bank Job", "Rule the World With Love", "I Can I Will I Do" and "Maybe You're Right" off our upcoming album Barenaked Ladies Are Me. It is our hope that you will remix, re-create, re-edit, re-configure, and realize what you will with these parts in coming up with your own versions. All tracks here are 16 bit 44.1kHz WAV files ready for re-mixing. Cost for all tracks of each song is $2.49. (note: all multitracks are copyrighted material)
and clicking on any song tells you something along these lines:
It is our hope that you will remix, re-create, re-edit, re-configure, and realize what you will with these parts in coming up with your own versions. All 11 tracks (5 of which are stereo - making 16 total) here are in 16 bit 44.1kHz WAV files ready for re-mixing. Cost for all tracks is $2.49 (note: all multitracks are copyrighted material).
These are real multi-tracks, with instruments and vocals split out.
It doesn't get any more re-mixable.
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What does 96 kHz buy you? (Score:3, Insightful)
None (Score:3, Interesting)
96kHz is nice for editing because you have more data to tweak- for instance if you were to timestretch a track. Plugins my friend. Essentially it's the same reason I do all my Photoshop edits at full resolution and the downscale to my output.
Why Apple? (Score:3, Insightful)
Pardon my ignorance, but what this has to do with Apple?
(Just asking)
Re:Why Apple? (Score:5, Informative)
Well, GarageBand is a Mac-only application written by Apple.
That'd be a good place to start.
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If you'd ever used logic 6 (the last version made by emagic before getting bought out by apple, who later produced logic 7 and recycled the sound engine into garageband), you'd know how ridiculous you sounded just now. Granted, apple didn't write the whole app from scratch, but what they did to it was the equivilent of "pimp my app" with a '79 chevy nova. Give some credit where it's due.
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http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/nin/me_im
http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/nin/capit
http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/nin/my_vi
And a fourth not linked to from the NIN main page:
http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/nin/survi
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Adblock: *.Myspace.* (Score:2, Funny)
I know this probably sounds like a troll... (Score:5, Interesting)
A band puts out their music for their fans to mess around with electronically, in a common format for very inexpensive software. Pretty neat shit.
A band can sell/giveaway/whatever their music through Apple iTMS (seriously, check out The Cells; a really kickass band, not mine.) or various other people with enough bandwidth and code to be able to sell or giveaway electronic tracks.
T-shirts, posters and other merchandise can be bought on-demand from certain sites and can be made in bulk cheaper than ever before.
Remind me again: Why do we need traditional record labels anymore? I mean, sure a band might not as easily book a night at Shea Stadium without Sony, but if smaller bands were able to keep more of their money (via not having to hand 80% of it over to the label), they don't need to play places as big as Shea Stadium regularly to still live the 'rockstar' lifestyle.
I think it's very funny that a Nine Inch Nail is helping to drive The Nail into the coffin of the record industry.
Re:I know this probably sounds like a troll... (Score:5, Insightful)
Much of the lifestyle you see with modern artists is funded by the record companies and when the sales dry up the cars, planes and cribs tend to vanish with them.
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Re:I know this probably sounds like a troll... (Score:4, Interesting)
I wasn't talking at all about sustaining the lifestyle, but rather getting to the point of having that lifestyle, however untenable, without the assistance of a record company.
Let's say a band can make $20,000 for performing at a 5,000 seat venue as a self-promoted event without record labels getting involved. Now, if said band were signed to a label and had to pay to play (or had to sell even more to get the record company the profits they want), the band may very well have to play a 30,000 seat arena to see the same $20,000.
They get the same amount of money either way, but since they're paying out less in scenario A, they don't need to worry about selling more seats. Then when they do get to the point of having the draw to fill Shea on their own (or have Shea approach them to do the show) they do get the super-mega-huge bucks.
I would totally expect that what you say is correct for rockstars as much as it is for anyone else: lose the market and lose your shirt.
What I'm saying is that bands are in a position now to be masters of their own destiny. The smart ones who understand the business will do very well for themselves, and those who have ten minutes of 'flash-in-the-pan' fame will be gone as quickly as they arrived.
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Re:I know this probably sounds like a troll... (Score:4, Informative)
I've worked with larger and smaller bands over the years.
The problems with physical spaces come with need for roadies, techies, engineers, insurance and everything else.
I've seen a small band go bankrupt for a single concert that goes badly because of poor planning and the idea that they can do things cheaper and make more money. Hell, I've seen a multimillion dollar festival I was once involved with go bankrupt because the board decided not to go with weather insurance. Sure, they would have doubled their profits if things had gone well without it, but the director who signed his name to a personal loan ended up losing his house.
I have to say, my career with the music industry as both a labeled artist as well as a consultant / hired gun, I never found anything unfair. It was all up front to what they will take and what risks they assume for you. Working in tech, I know the year I did as a technical on-call consultant, my company that did nothing but take calls took 50% of my take home...and only later did I find out they were charging a fee to the businesses as well. This is a common complaint in the field. AND I had to be bonded...they took absolutely no risk.
But a band playing to a 5000 large audience or a 30k one? Who cares if they make $20k for both. The first one will require a hell of a lot more work and coordination. I have done work as a production director in the past (its amazing how tech project management skills fit right into this area) and I know others in my field have charged $20k for a single night because of the coordination involved (I've done the bigger stuff under the auspices of charity, so I get a check that I turn right back in, though I've seen others that walk away with these checks and never look back).
The fact is, the band that has to do a 30k large show does a LOT less work than one that does it in front of a 5k one and assume a lot less risk.
The problem with the music industry is that geeks and nerds really just don't understand what is all involved in the real world, yet they pass along suggestions and pat each other on the back for being so insightful about how bad this industry is. It is almost as bad as non-technical managers showing up to a development meeting and telling the programmers that we need XYZ feature and it should be a slam dunk because its obviously easy as they've seen others do it (not realizing they have had a team of 20 and a budget of $10M...where as you have 3 people who are also dealing with desktop support and told that when Bob leaves we don't have the funding to replace him).
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Big bands like NIN probably don't need record labels at this point, assuming they are willing to do all that boring work (marketing, accounting, production, legal, etc.) along with writing the music (Reznor might be willing there, but I imagine most are not). But a garage band has a nearly 0% chance of getting a hit on the radio without help. Yes, there are occasional exceptions, thats why I said 'nearly'.
BTW, how do you think sucking up to the general RIAA hating /. population sounds like a troll? If
Finally (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't care if you don't like NIN's music, you have to admire how they are approaching the new medium and embracing a new environment. I will buy their CD just to have that heat sensitive label. NIN 'gets it' in my opinion.
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Guess I'm old now, but his stuff doesn't seem to have progressed much.
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I think his stuff has progressed a little bit. It's a little more organic sounding, particularly compared to Pretty Hate Machine. For example, one of the songs on his new album has a trumpet!
More importantly, I think his lyrics have gotten more mature. A lot of Pretty Hate Machine all the way to his previous two albums were about angst and navel gazing: "Woe is me, someone I love dumped me!". Maybe throw in a bit of "wow, the music industry is full of phonies! I blame you, God!". Maybe it's completely appropriate when you're a teenager or in college, but as you get older, it's a bit tiring.
"With Teeth" represented a shift in his lyrics in that they're more mature and he seems to be finally using his bully pulpit to say something important. "The Hand That Feeds" is a brilliant questioning of the war in Iraq ("what if this whole crusade is a charade?"). "Every Day is Exactly The Same" perfectly describes my job (particularly after a bitterly depressing day) after working for more than a decade ("I believe I can see the future, 'cause I repeat the same routine.")
Year Zero improves on that even more. He's gone from complaining about his love life to providing an interesting commentary and warning against the move to fascism. My favorite track "Capital G" is a perfect description a young Republican or someone who is on his way to becoming a "Brown Shirt".
So while the music isn't wildly different, I think that his lyrics have matured quite a bit. In that way, he's gone from entertainment to art, and it makes his music far more interesting.
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Re:Finally progressed (Score:3, Interesting)
Mr 'techno' reznor had the guts to play not only acoustically, but also did it without a DRUMMER.
Nothing but Acoustic piano and a string section that made a lot of noisy pendericki-type sounds.
He said he was scared sh*tless, and didn't know if he would do it again, but he took the effort to make new arrangements of some of his newer songs and go outside his comfort zone and ch
Re:Finally (Score:5, Funny)
Brillant.
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Just something to ponder.
Re:Finally (Score:4, Interesting)
Then obviously you can make an authorised duplicate from the sources!
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I don't care if you don't like NIN's music, you have to admire how they are approaching the new medium and embracing a new environment. I will buy their CD just to have that heat sensitive label. NIN 'gets it' in my opinion.
Absolutely. I'm a music student in a program for digital arts and experimental media*, and I think it's fantastic to see a well established band taking steps to move the music industry forward. I don't care for NIN music (like, at all), but you have to hand it to them, I haven't seen anyone else do more to connect with their fan base, educate interested parties in the process of modern production and composition, and build interest about a new release. With the option of digital distribution, I can use techniques such as this to market my music (and hopefully monetize it through instructional downloads/official tab PDFs) while remaining free of an RIAA contract. If Trent were here, I'd say "good show." I'd probably also say "cheer up dude."
*University of Washington, Seattle if you care. :)
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If by that you mean that they have a large and dedicated following, most of whom will buy the CDs, DVDs, T-shirts, etc and attend the concerts, then yes, they "get it". (Although by "they" I assume you mean Trent - it is still essentially a one-man band, isn't it?)
Not all bands/stars are so blessed, even some of the big names are living essentially on hype and marketing saturation. We can argue relative worth until we're blue in the face (although I suspect I'd lik
"Musician," not "Musicians" (Score:3, Informative)
As a iMac owner (Score:2)
Did not have this problem prior, but then, I never tried this with real songs.
Has anyone else encountered the constant stoppages of garage band with these tracks?
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A sign of things to come? (Score:2, Funny)
I guess the next step involves giving everyone guitars so they can write the songs for them?
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What's wrong with just coming in from a hard day's work, opening a bottle of beer and chilling out to a good piece of music or a movie, rather than wanting to "change it" or "fiddle with it"?
My view is that musicians, movie producers & actors probably know more about their respective arts than I do so they can just get on with it and I'll throw some money at them when they turn out something worse listening to or wa
Re:A sign of things to come? (Score:5, Insightful)
Some people say the same thing about an operating system. They tend to get mocked as luddites here on SlashDot, or tools of Microsoft.
Not saying I disagree with you. Just trying to give you some perspective.
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Real meaning of open source (Score:3, Funny)
Whew!
This is a good thing (Score:2, Insightful)
It feels to me like he's taking a very honest approach about it; after all if the tracks suck then the no-one's going to bu
You watch... (Score:2, Funny)
Alternate Reality Game (Score:5, Informative)
So, they also release the individual tracks from the songs of the album, in Garage Band and other formats. Bad ass. But you know what else? This is all part of the game - some of the songs contain hidden pictures [wikipedia.org], backmasked vocals [echoingthesound.org] that lead to website addresses, and there's even morse code on the album.
It is expected that there will be even more hidden goodness available to us now that we can examine the individual tracks. Not only that but holy crap some of these hidden tracks are creepy- the Reaktor instrument in My Violent Heart, for example.
And the heat sensitive label freaked me out, even though I knew it was going to change... that of course revealed another code for the ARG. All the songs seem different after reading up on the ARG. And thats the thing- this album is another concept album, but instead it centers around a fictional future universe rather then being a big metaphor for Trent's own trials and tribulations. Though I'm sure some of those are mixed in too
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I want to fuck you like an animal
I want to feel you from the inside
I want to fuck you like an animal
My whole existence is flawed
You get me closer to God