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Penetration Testing TV Series Coming

Posted by kdawson on Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:50 PM
from the tiger-team dept.
ChazeFroy writes "CourtTV (TruTV) has a new series starting Dec. 25 at 11 pm called 'Tiger Team.' It follows a group of elite penetration testers hired to test organizations' security using social engineering, wired/wireless penetration testing, and physically defeating security mechanisms (lock picking, dumpster diving, going through air vents/windows). They do all of this while avoiding the organizations' various security defenses as well as law enforcement. The stars of the show also did a radio spot this morning in Denver." Wonder how they socially engineer away the presence of a camera team in the air vents.
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  • by 1zenerdiode (777004) on Tuesday December 18 2007, @11:52PM (#21748356)
    ...some sort of interactive pr0n... I don't want to see the set-top box.
    • by renegadesx (977007) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @12:11AM (#21748470)
      Im just glad the usual trolls are not around (goatse, gay sex writer, pony lover, etc)

      They would have a field day with the title alone
    • by ravenspear (756059) * on Wednesday December 19 2007, @12:26AM (#21748568)
      Set top boxes that give you feedback on the presence of any loose male cables dangling from their backsides through a series of audio tones.

      Sources familiar with the development of the units indicate that the cable integrity is calculated through an internal "fulfillness meter" each box has that is dynamically calibrated to the thrusting force of initial cable insertion by the owner.

      The audio tones are said to become louder as the internal weight of the portion of cable inserted decreases on a linear scale.

      New owners feel the new design could be a boon to children, who lacking a cohesive concept of proper cable pairment, had difficulty before in detecting the causes of abnormal video problems with the units.
      • The audio tones are said to become louder as the internal weight of the portion of cable inserted decreases on a linear scale.

        I suppose both pitch and volume modulation go hand in hand. That would result in a richer, more natural sound.

        New owners feel the new design could be a boon to children, who lacking a cohesive concept of proper cable pairment, had difficulty before in detecting the causes of abnormal video problems with the units.

        You know how funny noise can keep kids amused for hours? The last thing I want is a 4y old playing with home entertainment devices.

        If you're antropomorphizing, might as well go all the way. It would be more useful to have a "hey!" sound if you put it in the wrong place, but it's hard to detect before it is fully inserted.

    • Set-top box (Score:5, Funny)

      by Dr. Cody (554864) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @12:38AM (#21748624)
      "I'm sick of all this sex on the tellyvision--I MEAN, I keep falling off!"

      - Mrs. Nesbit
    • by steelfood (895457) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @12:50AM (#21748698)
      It better be hard or it won't be interesting.
  • by fahrbot-bot (874524) on Tuesday December 18 2007, @11:53PM (#21748366)
    (lock picking, dumpster diving, going through air vents/windows)

    Funny, when I did that they called it B&E - sigh.

  • by ChazeFroy (51595) on Tuesday December 18 2007, @11:54PM (#21748372) Homepage
    Opening montage of the show is on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Be-ZzcXVLw [youtube.com]
  • They do all of this while avoiding the organizations' various security defenses as well as law enforcement.


    COPS meets Tiger Team. I see a great need.

  • by pablo_max (626328) on Tuesday December 18 2007, @11:59PM (#21748400)
    I thought it was a reality TV show about life in a condom factory.
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      It would be titled 'Jack, the Disgruntled Condom Factory Worker with a Needle.'
  • On Court TV? I thought that kind of show only aired on Cinemax after midnight.
  • by Fractal Dice (696349) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @12:07AM (#21748446) Journal
    Kudos to the first group to penetrate the series' offices and make off with their tapes.
  • by varkatope (308450) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @12:24AM (#21748550) Homepage
    I was going to write something witty and mildly suggestive. like "hey, so THOSE are the guys that inspect all those condoms that say things like inspected by No.4. I could be that number 4! Look out ladies." (Score:3, Funny)

    Then I realized that this is Slashdot, and most of us couldn't get laid if it was our jobs. (badum pum. ah-thankyou) Score:2, Funny or Score:2, Insightful. ...But THEN I realized once again that this is Slashdot, and that this story contains computers and myriad potential for dick jokes! (Score:5, Super Awesomeness OMG)

    So uh.... I could totally be that Number 4 inspector! ...something something computer security!
    ????
    Profit!!
    • by Erpo (237853) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @02:29AM (#21749134)
      Golly. It sounds like you think people play Slashdot like some kind of giant MMORPG, grinding for points. But that couldn't be true. The purpose of comment moderation is to encourage people to make posts that are useful to the community and enrich the news, and everyone knows that computer systems are only used for their intended purpose.
  • Ssssshhh!!! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by TibbonZero (571809) <Tibbon@@@gmail...com> on Wednesday December 19 2007, @12:38AM (#21748628) Homepage Journal
    Don't make Americans even more freaked out. Everyone's already worried about 'security'. Don't make them think that us average dumpster divers and hackers are bad people.
  • by Mr. Roadkill (731328) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @12:44AM (#21748664)
    No, I'd like to see "I'm A CEO - Get Me Out Of Here".

    Steve Ballmer, a stack of chairs, and Larry Page. Oh, and a couple of bottles of tequila. And handguns.

    Darl McBride, twelve inches of hosepipe and a bottle of fireants - lube will be optional.

    Who else wants to see Mark Burnett or Jon de Mol pick this up and run with it?

  • Boss is in on it (Score:5, Insightful)

    by RealGrouchy (943109) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @12:52AM (#21748710)
    From the looks of the trailer/montage, it looks like these are people who are paid by the site owners to test the security systems; the tech security equivalent of "secret shoppers".

    Not very surprising, but what does surprise me is that the site owners are letting CourtTV broadcast to the world that their facilities are insecure.

    - RG>
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      They'll go for mid-size companies and won't name them. They've probably had the film in the can long enough for the company to action anything that came up and I'm sure they'd remove anything that was still vulnerable.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 19 2007, @01:06AM (#21748776)
    "...(lock picking, dumpster diving, going through air vents/windows)..."

    Aha! Out of that list, looks like "going through...Windows" will be the fastest, easiest way to breach security.
  • when they called this red cell, marcinko was kicking butt, and it wasnt compromising fax machines, but military bases.

    seal team ftw :)
  • If it's on TV then you know it will be staged and chock full of pseudo-science dumbed down for the unwashed hordes (like Ghost hunters only with even worse acting and cheesy special effects).
  • Judging from other reality formats, this may not be too realistic. Show value over accuracy!

    Also there are numerous legal issues. For example, instructing people publicly to do this may be illegal in the first place and open you up to liability of somebody uses the methods shown to commit a crime. Also, companies will not agree to have their vulnerabilities shown in public.

    I therefore predict that this will only show well-known attack techniques against very common vulnerabilities, but nothing of real infor
  • by ookabooka (731013) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @01:57AM (#21748988)

    Wonder how they socially engineer away the presence of a camera team in the air vents.

    Ok, airvents yes, but social engineering would probably benefit from these cameras. A secretary might not stop a guy in an IT suit walking out with a computer, but you think he/she'd be more likely to stop a guy carrying out a computer while he's talking to a 3 man camera team with boom microphones etc. "Hey, where are you going with that computer?" "Oh, I'm John from tech co, is having me lead this team from around about IT in the modern world." (turns to camera) "One thing paramount to security is patching your systems, this machine here has been exhibiting bizzare behavior on the network, most likely due to spyware and that is why it has been removed from the network to undergo analysis in the IT lab." Really, I think the hardest part would be getting the crew to go along with whatever quick responses you give to anyone who really questions you. It only takes 1 guy that acts a bit suspicious and unsure to ruin the whole thing.
    • That was supposed to be: "Oh, I'm John from tech co, <boss's name> is having me lead this team from <media company> around about IT in the modern world."
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      Actually, a TV team might even help. Make it big, even show off that "you're coming on TV" and you'll see people cooperate with anything, because hey, they're getting screen time! Start interviewing them, they'll be nervous and distracted, you could even steal their computer underneath their hands without them noticing it because hey, they're on TV!
  • by edunbar93 (141167) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @02:09AM (#21749034)
    This is one of those things where just because you *can*, doesn't mean you *should*. And putting it on TV with a CYA boilerplate of "don't try this at home kids", is an astoundingly stupid idea.

    It actually kind of reminds me of a segment in Weird Al's movie "UHF".... "Today boys and girls, we're going to learn to make PLOO-TOE-NEE-UM. Out of common, household items."
  • by teslatug (543527) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @03:31AM (#21749402)
    So from the radio interview, they explain one of their breakins into an expensive car dealership. The weak point is as usual the employees who let them video tape the place and let one of them into the data center just because he managed to get (through dumpster diving) the business card of their support company.
  • by houghi (78078) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @06:21AM (#21749936) Homepage
    I have already seen shows where people are hired to brak into houses and buildings and then 'steal' things. The people get a new burglarproof house, which is then also tested.

    Probably this will follow the same format, but include other techniques as well.

    What people do not realize is that with the world of spam, people hardly ever target one premisis and then see what the best opportunity is, but rather look for the best opportunity and then see to what premesis it is connected.
    • Like it's a sport to go rummaging through the trash... LOL

      There's a lot more to it than just rummaging through the trash.

      When you're going for sensitive information and not just things like parts, common sense dictates that you pick your targets carefully and have a plan for executing the dive (though most of the following would apply to diving for equipment as well):
      Knowing which dumpsters and containers are more than likely to have sensitive information.
      Knowing how to get in and out of the area without ge
    • Re:Season 2? (Score:5, Informative)

      by The MAZZTer (911996) <{moc.liamg} {ta} {tzzagem}> on Wednesday December 19 2007, @12:35AM (#21748604) Homepage
      They have signed papers indicating they are permitted to do penetration testing, by request of the organization they are testing. If they get arrested, they show the papers, the police verify them, and they get released.
      • Er, at least, that's how these sorts of things are supposedly done. IANAPenetration Tester.
      • will be the followup outtakes special.
      • Re:Season 2? (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Belial6 (794905) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @01:45AM (#21748954) Homepage
        Isn't it illegal to knowingly call the cops with a false report? I realize that the specific IT person or security guard won't be in on the joke, but whoever sets up the "penetration test" knowingly is setting up an employee to call in a false report. This means the corporation as an entity is calling in a false report.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          In one article I read about the practice of penetration testing, the firm doing the testing coordinated with the local police department, so that they would be aware of what was going on.
          • Re:Season 2? (Score:4, Insightful)

            by Opportunist (166417) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @02:52AM (#21749240)
            This is the only way I'd do it in a country like the US. Else it could be quite dangerous if you happen to meet a trigger happy cop who mistakes those tapes in your hands for a machine gun.
      • Re:Season 2? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by anticypher (48312) <anticypher@gmai[ ]om ['l.c' in gap]> on Wednesday December 19 2007, @06:54AM (#21750072) Homepage
        The one pen-test group I consulted for long ago had a very serious procedure in place to verify and document everything before starting the job. This was just electronic/internet/social penetration, no testing of physical security. Much of what they did was related to legal (through the courts) attacks, they would mostly have meetings with the in-house council or retained law firms to ensure they were ready to respond to lawsuits, indictments, and media accusations. The electronic pen-test was a sideline to verify legal compliance where personal and financial data was stored or processed.

        Before they would do any kind of network scanning, database testing, or even attach one of their laptops to the network, they would require a face-to-face meeting with the entire board of directors and senior management. The meetings would be video taped and documented, and all sides would sign the agreement stating the entire scope of the work, and work wouldn't start until after the video tapes and legal documents were safely stored off-site and reviewed. They required the head of legal council to affirm on video and in a signed document that the company was aware of the testing to be done, and held the pen-test firm free of any liability (I don't remember the exact British legal term they used).

        It was good they got this level of protection for us, I've heard many stories from ex-pen testers about being hired by the supposed head of IT, only to discover the CTO was unaware of the agreement. Even having a signed document from someone in the company isn't good enough in the short term if the company turns around and bites you. One friend was driven out of business by court costs despite a signed document, his company just didn't perform due-diligence on the authority of the IT director. Another friend was blamed for hacking and destroying the main database, before they had even arrived on site to plug into the network. While they were still in the IT directors office looking for a working network jack, the DBA accused them of hacking and destroying the main data base. They didn't get paid for that job, they just walked away when the IT director didn't side with them.

        I don't do security pen-testing any more, most companies who hire pen-testers do so in place of either writing a policy, or implementing it. They want pen-testers to break things so they can get more budget, and that's it. Even asking up front for the basics like a list of equipment or range of IP addresses shows most companies don't know their own inventory. Pen-testers then become scapegoats, often with associated criminal complaints.

        The video clip commercial looks downright scary. This show has the potential to turn public opinion into laws preventing any kind of security consulting, whether it's something simple like a paper audit of a security policy or a complex review of network configuration. You just know this show is edited for maximum Rambo/DieHard/IndianaJones effect because preparation and meetings are boring.

        the AC
    • Re:I can't wait. (Score:5, Informative)

      by databeast (19718) on Wednesday December 19 2007, @05:05AM (#21749698) Homepage
      I know these guys. One of them is a Defcon Goon and has a book or three published oo, the other's a better lockpicker than you will ever dream of being, the third guy's a prtty slick business brain. I'd happily bet any single one of them against you and a team of your choice for skills.