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Leaked RIAA Training Video
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on Wed Feb 20, 2008 09:05 PM
from the gateway-crime dept.
from the gateway-crime dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Gizmodo has a clip of that RIAA training video produced with the NDAA for US prosecutors that was leaked to torrent sites a few days ago. It argues they should pursue piracy cases because it leads to bigger and badder wares, like handguns, drugs, terrorist orgs, and hardcore repeat offender criminals. It's kind of sad how far they're stretching to bring law enforcement into the matter."
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That solves everything! (Score:5, Funny)
RIAA, Homeland Security... who knew they were one and the same?
Re:That solves everything! (Score:5, Funny)
George W. Bush: We have EVIDENCE that Sweden is hosting the servers of mass destruction owned by the notorious terrorist organisation, The Pirate Bay! Sweden is refusing to shutdown this evil group, so we must invade them to maintain peace in the world!
Random Person: But Mr. President...what does file-sharing have to do with terrorism?
George W. Bush: You must have missed that informative video presented by our friends, the RIAA linking file-sharing to terrorism. These 'torrents' can cause mass destruction and have already resulted in billions of dollars of damage to our economy and this is the beginning to them...torture, rape and murder is what is to come! We must liberate the internet from the tyranny and dictatorship of these file-sharers!
*Post-War with Sweden*
George W. Bush: I don't understand! We flattened every single server cluster in the country and Pirate Bay is up again...!
CIA: It seems they have multiple mirrors across the globe.
George W. Bush: They're all terrorist supporters! NUKE THEM ALL!
~Jarik
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Re:That solves everything! (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:Sweden's neutral! (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Sweden's neutral! (Score:5, Insightful)
As an aside, Sweden stayed out of the first and second war by NOT being important either strategically or resource-wise, rather than some kind of political strategy (they pissed off Hitler plenty but there was really no need to do anything about it). Belgium (in both world wars) and Netherlands + Denmark + Luxembourg + Norway (in second world war) were officially neutral yet got wiped because of strategic and resource reasons.
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Re:Sweden's neutral! (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Sweden's neutral! (Score:5, Funny)
I can see it now: Sweede/geeks hiding behind server clusters, plotting raids on Rockstar caches, wearing down the morale of the enemy by constantly playing Hamster Dance.
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Re:Sweden's neutral! (Score:5, Funny)
If you're talking about Swiss Army Knives then I guess it would have to be the Swiss, who live in Switzerland, which is a good drive from Sweden.
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Re:Sweden's neutral! (Score:5, Informative)
Bwahahaha... They do not just have their own army, they are also one of the biggest manufacturers of weapons in the world. Ever heard of Bofors? Swedes make their own small arms, artillery, tanks, even fighter aircraft.
All of that considerably cheaper than USA or UK and a lot of that much better quality than the USA or UK. They buy some avionics from BAE, but otherwise their weapons industry is mostly native. In fact, IIRC, USA is importing some small arms from Sweden for their special forces. So does UK.
While the Viggens and Griphens do not look so fancy they can actually stand their own against most NATO or Russian aircraft. Same for other Swedish kit.
This is one "neutral" country I will definitely not f*** with. It is neutrality armed to the teeth.
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Re:That solves everything! (Score:5, Insightful)
Of course, terrorists also eat, go to the bathroom, and occasionally bathe too. That's because it's what people do. Correlation does not equal causality, unless you're very well paid to believe so.
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Re:That solves everything! (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:That solves everything! (Score:5, Funny)
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It actually does solve a lot... (Score:5, Insightful)
All that was suggested was that if officers wanted into a suspects home, but did not have enough evidence to issue a warrant on the suspected charges alone, they could use piracy as a means to get that warrant. The intent, which should be obvious by now, is to get into the house so that evidence of terrorism, drug trafficking or violent intent involving firearms might then be 'coincidentally' discovered.
And hey... sounds like it's a great strategy. How many people do you know that haven't pirated anything at all? The police just found themselves a skeleton key.
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Re:It actually does solve a lot... (Score:5, Informative)
"I think number one it has to be stressed that this crime, this type of crime effects quality of life in the DA's, uh, jurisdiction in the cities in which they work and live, but the other thing is that it's a link to a lot of other crimes. And I tell the prosecutors and I tell the police officers that I work with all the time use this type of a crime as a tool this might lead you to a drug investigation...It also has links to terrorism organizations for you federal prosecutors out there..."
You can find this about 2 minutes into the video.
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Re:It actually does solve a lot... (Score:5, Insightful)
"It's so convenient to have a system where everyone is a criminal" - Adolf Hitler.
And I'm pretty sure most other succesful dictators have had similar notions. Don't attribute to Rand what she clearly didn't invent; whether this should be considered to be to her credit or discredit is another matter.
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Muhahahahaha (Score:5, Funny)
A CD today, tomorrow the world! arrrrrrrrrrr....
Re:Muhahahahaha (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:Muhahahahaha (Score:5, Funny)
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How? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:How? (Score:5, Funny)
With law Ninjas
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gateway crime misinformation (Score:5, Insightful)
All agressive prosecutors (persecutors?) will fall back on this precept when it starts to become clear the "crime" they're fighting against is victimless and thus shouldn't be considered a crime at all.
I find this is mostly caused by greed and ignorance on the part of the persecuting party and any agencies they employ in their unethical battle.
-WtC
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Re:gateway crime misinformation (Score:5, Interesting)
I never thought that a Weird Al song would actually be a part of the RIAA's groundwork for getting the government to do their bidding. But if the RIAA says that downloading songs is going to lead to running guns and drugs, then we should take this a step further.
In order to better "think of the children" we should immediately disband the RIAA and all of the record companies. I mean, if stealing songs leads to drugs being sold to children, or guns being fired at people, we should do the "right thing" and keep anyone from stealing music. Since they can't do this the way they are going at it, then obviously we should stop the music piracy by stopping the music.
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Re:gateway crime misinformation (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:gateway crime misinformation (Score:5, Funny)
You can't stop the music. Nobody can stop the music. Take the cold from snow. Tell the trees, don't grow. Tell the wind, don't blow, 'cause it's easier.
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Re:gateway crime misinformation (Score:5, Interesting)
http://torrentfreak.com/norwegian-police-deal-massive-blow-to-mpaa-lawyer-080220/ [torrentfreak.com]
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Re:gateway crime misinformation (Score:5, Insightful)
And the old gateway crime argument is just a form of the ancient post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
People fill in the gaps in their information with ideology. Unfortunately, a great deal of law enforcement training perpetuates these ideas. Time and again, they'll tell you that people convicted of felony X first committed misdemeanor Y, but they fail to notice that they have no idea how many people actually commit misdemeanor Y without ever coming under the radar. Counterarguments which are under the radar, like the hordes of people who smoke pot but don't do crack, are filed away as potential crack smokers rather than demonstrations that smoking pot does not necessarily lead to smoking crack. They also ignore extensions of their own arguments, and not just the ad nauseam examples. For instance, one could just as easily say that drinking beer leads to smoking crack even in adults, but they won't. Why causal linkages between beer and pot and crack are so strong in kids, while the link between beer and anything "druggy" magically disappears during adulthood is beyond me, but then, I only had 9 years of full-time University education and 3 years of doctoral research, so I guess I ain't clever enough to suss out thar thinkun'
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Re:gateway crime misinformation (Score:5, Informative)
Because what the RIAA calls "pirating" is what most people did in the record days and tape days. I didn't see the recording industry suddenly get bankrupt. What about VCRs that recorded TV did that suddenly make TV stations go bankrupt? Or the TiVo how it skips ads, because I know that it made TV shows stop airing because people "pirated" them and skipped the commercials. The fact is, "pirating" is doing the same job today as radio did 10-20 years ago, promotes the artist. People won't buy something without hearing or seeing it for free, same reason a bookstore will let you read an entire book if you really want to without paying for it. In the end though, even though it hurts the *AA's cashflow for a bit, it will increase it in the long run by gaining new music fans.
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Re:gateway crime misinformation (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:gateway crime misinformation (Score:4, Interesting)
Oh please not this fucking argument again. IT'S NOT A FREE MARKET, RIAA are a cartel which buys off radio stations and setups up crappy tv shows.
your argument is fine if the consumer was actually given a real choice.
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While it may be true (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:While it may be true (Score:5, Funny)
Family doesn't fight family - capish?
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Re:While it may be true (Score:5, Informative)
1-When I rip songs from a legally purchased CD to OGG files on my computer, that is NOT piracy, anymore than making a compilation CD of my favorite songs from my collection of legally purchased CD is.
2- Recording from radio and TV stations that are broadcasting over the air has always been allowed...it is NOT piracy.
3-P2P downloads of music and movies have been shown to increase sales of music and movies...People don't like to buy something that they haven't heard/seen. Downloading copyrighted movies and music via P2P IS piracy, but it is not hurting the movie or music industry as much as they are hurting themselves by trying to hang on to their outdated business model, and treating their customers like they are ALL criminals.
4-This is the Big One...The RIAA, and MPAA need to go after the big pirates...you know...the ones who are making hundreds of thousands of illegal copies of copyrighted movies and music, and selling them all over the world.
Of course, I am not saying anything that the folks on
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No no no. Stop. Right now. Fucking Stop. (Score:4, Insightful)
STOP RIGHT THERE GOVERNMENT.
I am not going to let you use my tax money to start a "War on Piracy" - just like your dumbass "War on Drugs"
STOP. BAD DOG! NO BISCUIT FOR YOU!
Seriously, the only way you can teach these fucking politicians is by hitting them in the nose.
Humorous (Score:5, Insightful)
I have not seen the video but I find it quite humorous when some organization's materials for training/brainwashing are leaked and it makes headlines. I.E. Scientology, RIAA, etc. What would even be funnier if the RIAA took the same position the Church of Scientology did and tried to repress this video.
Repression of information is the first sign of a flawed ideology. As we've seen in many court cases in which they've shut down systems, the RIAA is against any kind of information sharing via P2P software and therefore has a flawed ideology.
It all started so innocently. (Score:5, Funny)
I gradually withdrew from my friends and family, unable to control my urge for more tunes. I knew it was wrong, but it felt so... right. I began using other filesharing software, and soon experienced strange hallucinations involving limes and wires. I told a friend about it, and he gave me some pills to help me sleep better at night. The troubling dreams and hallucinations faded, but now I couldn't stop taking the pills. Chain smoking, heavy drinking, and chronic pacing soon developed. I was having trouble concentrating on anything other than file swapping, and began using crack cocaine to improve my focus. My teeth began to loosen in their sockets, and I was fired from work after failing a drug test.
Now I live on the streets, feeding my addiction through unsecured wireless hotspots that I access through a Pentium 90 connected to an exercise bike generator. My crack cocaine consumption has skyrocketed due to my need to constantly pedal the bike lest my rig lose power. Heed my warning: sharing and downloading music will ruin your life! Contact your local RIAA liason to seek treatment immediately. It's not too late... friends don't let friends use filesharing software.
Re:It all started so innocently. (Score:5, Funny)
Well on the bright side, at least you're staying in shape
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Training? (Score:5, Funny)
The Irony Is... (Score:5, Insightful)
ROFFLCOPTER (Score:5, Informative)
The link of the TORRENT [thepiratebay.org]
You know what? (Score:5, Interesting)
And, sadly, all that being said I'd still rather have you guys steal all my work in "protest" than have the RIAA represent me and blame the Pirate Bay for 9/11, herpes, Ashlee Simpson's "career," and the fucking Kennedy assassination.
Seriously. I hate those assholes.
I still have rent to pay, though, so go buy a fucking CD you torrented or something, okay?
Re:You know what? (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:You know what? (Score:5, Funny)
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3678098/Black_Sabbath-The_Best_Of_Black_Sabbath-2CD-(Remastered)-2007-EO [thepiratebay.org]
However, you should be warned that by downloading that torrent you're supporting communism, AIDS, baby rape, and late fees at video stores. I hope you're happy with yourself, you amoral hooligan.
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if you're just a troll (Score:4, Funny)
if you are actually who you say you are, you rock dude
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I say this with the utmost respect (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't hate your musicians, I just hate the fact that some spoiled brat can make twice as much as me with half the effort and no college degree. I hate that those brats are being taken advantage of by overgrown bullies that make more money than I can, with low level degrees from classes whose main requirements to graduate are Show Up, and Bullshit Convincingly. I hate that there are sound technicians who took years out of their lives to learn how to use complex machines to make music sound better, when I can do the same damn thing with a $500 microphone, $1000 computer, and free/second-hand software that requires a week of spare time to master ($500 mic optional, I've heard some damn good professional-quality music come from a $25 mic).
Lucky for you for as bad as your industry's future looks, it will take quite a while to crash and burn. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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More info from Gizmodo (Score:5, Funny)
RIAA: "When we followed leads gathered in the process of prosecuting people for piracy we found other people we could prosecute for drug possession, terrorism, and murder!"
J: "Are you trying to say that the people you originally investigated were guilty of drug possession, terrorism, and murder, and that all people you intend to have prosecuted for piracy will also be guilty of drug possession, terrorism, and murder?"
RIAA: "Well, erm.. no..."
J: "So.. what are you saying?"
RIAA: "Well, piracy could benefit drug dealers, terrorists, and murderers, and so you should prosecute pirates with heavy penalties!"
J: "Have you filed charges against, say, The Pirate Bay, for sponsoring drug dealing, terrorism, and murder?"
RIAA: "Well... no..."
J: "Wouldn't you say that anybody providing a service to unknown clients, e.g. a website, may quite innocently service drug dealers, terrorists, and murderers in exactly the same way it would service law abiding citizens, making just as much differentiation between the two as your local laundromat?"
RIAA: "Ummm... we need a recess..."
Here We Go Again (Score:5, Insightful)
WMD? (Score:5, Funny)
I can see it now... (Score:5, Funny)
Mom: Billy, did you legally obtain all the music on that iPod?
Billy: Yes, mom.
Mom: Mrs. Johnson told me her son lent you a CD... you know that's piracy!
Billy: But, mom!
Mom: No "buts"! You're grounded and no internet for you until we're sure the RIAA isn't tapping our computer!
Billy: But Timmy stabbed a kid at school today!
Timmy: The voices tell me to hurt people.
Mom: Did he violate international copyright law?
Billy: There were cops and an ambulence and everything!
Mom: You didn't answer my question.
Billy: No. He didn't.
Mom: That's right. Now you go to your room. Timmy, would you like some ice cream?
Timmy: I want to burn things.
Re:More on the Lawyer war (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:we are like SO legion (Score:5, Informative)
I'm no moron, my mate, but I'll merrily meet your invitation. Let my moniker be my mask.
*clears throat*
"The anti-MAFIAA Manifesto" (v3.06)
Market Momentum. A marginal improvement in a massive move of milliards of monetary units. Mobs maintaining their millionaire manors with a martial ministry, marauding and muzzling the melomaniacs who made the mistake of mounting multi-user music-sharing programs onto their microprocessors, mostly for an ear-mashing, mundane and monotonous munch of music, with a miserable "remastered" dynamic range.
The Machiavellian Music Industry, the Movie Masterminds and their malevolent minions, muscled by the majority of the media, masquerade their managers as martyrs to maintain a megalithic marketing model, misleading the masses into malls like mules, macerating -no, milking- their income and molding them: With mesmerizing melodies, moronic mottos, mountains of merchandise and meticulously mannered nominations, those monsters mutilate the masses' minds, melding them into not more than mere mammals, with a microscopic mental magnitude, matching the mud and the moss.
Myth? Misstatement? Madness? MATERIALISM!
Meanwhile, in their magnificent mansions, the mink-mantled magnates morbidly mock the minorities' misfortune, while moistening their mouths in martinis under the moonlight, and masticating their meat and marshmallows like no tomorrow.
Those mischievous moguls magnify their monumental monopolies by multiplying their machinery: Digital Rights Management, DMCA, "Trusted" Computing (Mr. Stallman was not mistaken). Maltreating musicians, misusing copyright to the max, mirroring the Matrix by mining the government to monitor communications, marching like the militia to school meetings in the mornings with menacing memos, mirthfully mismatching mortified mothers for maleficent mobsters, mandating most into misspending more and more (or be imprisoned). Their main motivation is no mystery: Money.
Money! A metastatic misery, a muddling myopia, a momentary make-believe, a magnetizing mirage! A manipulating mephisto, which metamorphoses the meek into mercenaries and murderers, making them moan like Midas in a maniacal manner: "mine, mine, mine!!" Is modesty no more?
MONEY! MAY OUR MAKER MALEDICT THEE!
(Meditate my musing for a moment)
This melee, to maximize their market share. Most of mankind's malignancy is merged into a man-made monster of mastodonic measures. A mammoth called MAFIAA. Months pass, and the multitudes mourn the ever-minimizing mobility of their mediocre minds, amidst marred music, meaningless media transmissions, and miniaturizing freedom. This multinational massacre must be terminated, but most men make meager or no moves, at most mimetizing their communications with muTorrent, masked by the mist of encryption. Is this illegal? Maybe. Morally wrong? Maybe, maybe not (memorize this term: Civil Disobedience).
IT IS MANDATORY THAT WE DO MUCH MORE, OR THIS MACABRE MELTDOWN WILL MOVE ON!!
Militate and manifest yourselves in the metropolis! This is a major command! Miraculous modifications start as a minimal idea in a man or a woman's mind. Maintain your might! Manly move forward, and donate money to your magnanimous comrades, the EFF and FSF, for their mission is not minor! But if you malinger...
Memorize my message, merciless mice! You might enjoy your freedoms for a minuscule moment - you shall miss them in melancholy for millennia, after they mutate into a marooned, mummified memory in a mausoleum named morgue. Misunderstand me not: this moderate memento, merriment to many, may be a premonitory ultimatum.
A MAYDAY!
Merry to meet you, I'm merely a man behind a mask with a mystifying moniker. I am M.
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