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Tenth Anniversary of First Commercial MP3 Player

Posted by Zonk on Mon Mar 10, 2008 08:14 PM
from the now-they're-implanted-at-birth dept.
Pickens writes "The first commercially released personal music player capable of handling MP3 files was launched in March 1998 — the MPMan F10, manufactured by Korea's Saehan Information Systems with 32MB of Flash storage, enough for a handful of songs encoded at 128Kb/s. In the US, local supplier Eiger Labs wanted $250 for the F10, though the price fell to $200 the following year prompted by the release of the Diamond Multimedia Rio PMP300. The Rio was released in September 1998, but by 8 October had become the subject of a lawsuit from the RIAA which claimed the player violated the 1992 US Home Recordings Act. It was later ruled that the Rio had not infringed the Act because it was not responsible for the actions of its customers. Thanks to its lesser known name, the F10 avoided such legal entanglements, but at the cost of all the free publicity its rival gained from the lawsuit."
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  • Lame (Score:5, Funny)

    by Kesch (943326) on Monday March 10 2008, @08:20PM (#22710796)
    No Wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.
  • At about 10,000$ of damages per song, 32MB doesn't seems that small!

    In fact, it should be "engough for everybody" ;)
      • This player was not a CD/MP3 player. The F10 [wikipedia.org] had 32 Megs of memory which was not expandible. The next verion (the one that I have!) the F20 [xbitlabs.com] had an expandible memory slot for SmartMeida cards (those thin memory cards, remember?). You could expand it to a whooping 64M of total memory. I tried inserting a 128M card but it wouldn't play. Also the interface for uploading songs was conected to the _parallel_ (LPT) port of the comp. It was pretty unstable. The filesystem was also not FAT12/16/32 based so it was a
  • And to think.... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by TFer_Atvar (857303) on Monday March 10 2008, @08:25PM (#22710842) Homepage
    What if the RIAA had won that lawsuit? Where would we be with music today?
    • Music companies wouldn't have lost those billions to those commie pirates, CDs would be flying off the shelves, and those poor record companies would have the money to pay the artists everything they deserve every time! Right? Right?

    • Re:And to think.... (Score:5, Informative)

      by Arguendo (931986) on Monday March 10 2008, @09:42PM (#22711360)
      Actually, the case (RIA v. Diamond Multimedia [cornell.edu]) was surprisingly limited and there's still a lot of debate about what it meant. Which is why we're still debating this stuff today. The Ninth Circuit simply held that MP3 players were not "digital audio recording devices" because they didn't actually make the digital copies (computers did). There wasn't much discussion of copyright issues.

      However, the Court did reason that its ultimate holding was consistent with the purpose of the Audio Home Recording Act, which supposedly was to "ensure the right of consumers to make analog or digital audio recordings of copyrighted music for their private, noncommercial use." 180 F.3d at 1079 (citing S. Rep. 102-294). And then the Court said the following:

      The Rio merely makes copies in order to render portable, or "space-shift," those files that already reside on a user's hard drive. . . . Such copying is paradigmatic noncommercial personal use entirely consistent with the purposes of the Act.
      And then the company that made the Rio went into bankruptcy and Apple made a gazillion dollars. Sometimes it's good to be second to market.
      • I don't actually think you're trolling, but I do think that "ignoring" is the wrong term for it. Independent artists can be very good, but the vast majority of them are utter crap. Nobody wants to listen to an hour of crap music to find one good song, and while the music industry isn't revolutionary right now, there are still decent bands to be found, and the crap bands aren't as plentiful nor as bad as the independents. Most independent artists are independent because they can't get signed, and any that ar
  • RaveMP (Score:5, Funny)

    by Jafafa Hots (580169) on Monday March 10 2008, @08:27PM (#22710862) Homepage Journal
    In the obsolete technology museum otherwise known as my house, I have two RaveMPs, one of the first MP3 players... and they both have the expansion chip to expand the memory to a full 128 meg! Almost enough for an entire CD! And the expansion chips only cost me like $150 each! (I got a good deal.)
    • Re:RaveMP (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Jafafa Hots (580169) on Monday March 10 2008, @08:30PM (#22710876) Homepage Journal
      Forgot to mention that it only took 30-45 minutes to transfer enough songs to fill up all that 128 meg via the serial port interface, its sole method of connection - with proprietary transfer software.
  • I do believe it was the Diamond Rio PMP300 was first. I remember my order being on hold because of the lawsuit. I can't get to wikipedia. Anyone have insight?
    • Re:huh? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Selfbain (624722) on Monday March 10 2008, @08:36PM (#22710940)

      The Rio PMP300 was the second portable consumer MP3 digital audio player (portable digital audio player), and was produced by Diamond Multimedia. It shipped in 1998.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_PMP300 [wikipedia.org]
      • Well, it has never been successfully tested.

        MOST tests are successful. Not so many of them produce a desirable outcome however.

    • Another device that comes to mind -- although I can't remember firmly enough exactly when it came out to argue that it was "first" -- was the Pontis MPlayer3. It was definitely one of the first ones that I remember seeing, and from the archived press releases [findarticles.com] I can find, I think it came out in the Summer (Jul-Aug, maybe a bit earlier) of 1998. The German company that produced it limped along for a long time afterwards, producing some Linux-based devices in fact, although they now seem to have been subsume
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10 2008, @08:30PM (#22710886)
    It was an innocent time on the internet, when you could download mp3s from the web, and nobody cared if you didn't upload.
  • I got my MPMan... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by greg_barton (5551) * <greg_barton@NOSpAM.yahoo.com> on Monday March 10 2008, @08:30PM (#22710888) Homepage Journal
    ...about the same time I signed up for my slashdot account. :) I couldn't wait to buy the thing, but I eventually got an MP3 CD player to replace it. Couldn't beat 650MB of MP3's at your fingertips.
  • How many of you still own a PMP300?

    (I won't ask about that first player... "who?")
    • I have a 500 which was the successor to the 300 and has a whopping 64 megs of memory. I have fond memories of my rio. Good looking, nice form factor, 1xAA battery = win.
      • Ah, memories. I remember wanting a 500 for christmas (since it had Linux support, and I didn't have anything else), but ended up getting a 600 instead. I had to reinstall Mac OS 8 just to sync over some mp3s.

        It's nice that this isn't a problem anymore. Mass storage has made every mp3 player the same to the computer, which is an idea I wish they had when they releasted the 600 :)
    • My first player was the Nomad Jukebox 3. I believe the Jukebox was the first hard-drive player, and the jukebox 3 was the first one to make me go OMG i need this! Bought in late 2001 or 2002, it had 20 GB and USB connectivity, and I still used it until only a year ago when it finally gave up the ghost.

      I remember explaining to people why my discman was so thick, and then having to go into what made it better. Most people were pretty impressed, though it seemed too techy for the average joe (until Apple made
      • From Wikipedia:

        The Personal Jukebox (also known as PJB-100 or Music Compressor) was the first commercially sold hard disk digital audio player. Introduced late in 1999, it preceded the Apple iPod and similar players. The original design was developed by Compaq Research (SRC and PAAD groups) starting in May 1998. Compaq did not release the player themselves, but licensed the design to HanGo Electronics Co., Ltd. of South Korea.

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          I had two PJBoxes way back when. I'm pretty sure I got the first one in early 2000. I lost the first one when my car was broken into and it was stolen on a night when I had coincidentally forgot that I left it in the glovebox.

          Ironically, the reason I *got* the PJBox was because after having my car broken into and stereo stolen yet again, I decided to never again buy a nice stereo for my car. From now on I would just use the stock/cheap stereo and listen to my music from the mp3 player. Something I still
    • Right here -- though something broke on it a looong time ago. I must have stopped using it by that time because I never tried very hard to see what was wrong with it. I got mine while I worked at an Office Depot in high school... and let's just say it was... heavily discounted ;)
  • Liars (Score:5, Funny)

    by martinX (672498) on Monday March 10 2008, @08:31PM (#22710896)
    The iPod hasn't been out for 10 years. Stop trying to rewrite history.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      The iPod hasn't been out for 10 years. Stop trying to rewrite history.

      Surely the Apple name and Steve Jobs reality distortion field helped the portable players gain popular acceptance faster than they would have otherwise, but the technology was already on the market and improving, and the blatant advantage over cd players and tape decks would have become well known fairly quickly.

      I wonder what the industry would look like today if Apple hadn't come on the scene, would the mp3 player industry still be as big?

      • Before Steve Jobs, the phone was not smart.
        • Before Steve Jobs, the phone was not smart.

          Spoken like someone who's never been to Japan (or Europe for that matter)

          There's a reason the US is the only market the iPhone's doing well in.
  • by nebaz (453974) on Monday March 10 2008, @08:32PM (#22710902)
    Does that mean it is established that it is unlawful to rip MP3's yourself?
    • In Australia it was illegal until last year. Considering that the iTunes store didnt open there until 2005 leaving almost no way to use them legally , and around 200,000 had been sold by then, a large number of the population were basically criminals.
  • I was a proud owner of the Rio500, and pumped that sucker up to 128mb with a SmartMedia card- total cost: $280. That was a lot for a poor high school student, but in return I was showered with first-adopter nerd envy. At that time, the idea of bringing 3 Cd's worth of music to school with me in 1/4 the space of a CD player was just awesome.

    I can just see the internet comments now:
    "Put 512mb on a player and I'll buy it right now- 32mb is just too small."
  • Yeah, it was a few years after the first MP3 player, but more than anything the iPod launch was the real catalyst. I was one of the naysayers who thought "What the hell is Apple thinking?!?!?!" when the iPod came out. Guess the joke is on me, because I'm now an owner of that market dominating family of MP3 players.

    The 6th birthday of the Personal Video Player is coming up in June. This is interesting, because legal video content is still a developing market. Apple is getting their feet wet with TV Shows
    • I had one of those 32MB flash Rios the day it came out. Two things:
      • The thing was light as hell. No motor, no tape, most of the weight was from the AA batteries. Because it was so light, it seemed flimsy compared to CD players or Walkmans.
      • When I first carried the thing around, people thought it was a pager. When I told them it played music, they thought it was an AM/FM radio. We aught to thank Apple for spending the time (and money) educating everyone about MP3s!!!
      • Sorry man, but TTG is half baked at best. The software is poorly designed, and there are Macrovision restrictions (whoops, you can't transfer that!)

        I'd put up with two weeks to watch certain programs (and current Tivo service), but I've had more than one movie (on the premium movie channels) that wouldn't transfer all together. 2 weeks, maybe 1.

        They have to fix TTG before it would be compelling:
        -Less restrictive. No limits (other than a current Tivo subscription) for unflagged content, and a couple o
  • I remember my cousin waiting at the door for the delivery of his Eiger F10. He tore through the packaging and out slid a matte black device no bigger than a pack of cigarettes with a few silver buttons and a 3 digit LCD display like you'd find on the cheapest CD players.

    If I recall the device had 32 megabytes of memory but accepted MMC type cards. The best part had to be the parallel port connection. A connection that (unbeknowenst to him) had to be reconfigured in the BIOS. After almost an hour of manual
  • wow (Score:2, Interesting)

    And to think I actually, seriously just bought my first non-optical MP3 player (as in CD-less) 3 days ago. I got the m250 that was on sale at newegg for $30. That was finally low enough for me. I'm so cheap (and poor). It's really good too if you're looking for one.
  • by rolfwind (528248) on Monday March 10 2008, @08:41PM (#22710984)
    for under $200!
    http://www.pricewatch.com/flash_card_memory/usb_32gb.htm [pricewatch.com]

    An increase of capacity at around roughly 1000x in a decade. I don't know if the trend will continue.... but if it does we'll be at 32TB in another decade.

    I guess even those who don't use music players can be thankful for those devices as they, along with digital cameras, were really were the commercial products on the market that really sold and pushed the flash envelope. Sure there were PDAs/GPS units and other stuff, but in comparison they really niche markets that were happy with 256MB or whatever in most cases. Now things like the airbook (and all the SSD notebooks to follow, yes there were earlier ones I know), iPhone and the convergence of devices will further drive the market for more space.
  • by szyzyg (7313) on Monday March 10 2008, @08:51PM (#22711044)
    I always was under the impression that it had been the first portable mp3 player (well I guess technically my laptop was portable ad it could manage to play mp3, but you know what I mean) I read this article today and suddely felt a little less forgiving to my old player and the hoops I had to go through to get music from my linux box onto the player. Oh well

    I remember it was one of the perks given to early employees at a dotcom called myplay which let users store their music collections online and access it from anywhere in the world, as long as you had an internet connection, it was of course another portable media player - the iPod which let people take their music collection (or at least a decent part of it) anywhere, regardless of interet connectivity.

    Funnily enough I now work at imeem which lets users upload their music collections and share them with other users, the more things change, the more things stay the same.
  • by Ransak (548582) on Monday March 10 2008, @08:52PM (#22711056) Homepage Journal
    Through a friend I was able to get my grubby mitts on a Diamond Rio 300, which I still have (and it still works). I paid close to $300 for it for one singular reason: lawsuits. At the time Sony and a few other of the RIAA mafia were trying their hand at court proceedings to stop the manufacture of MP3 players (while, all the while developing their own behind closed doors).

    Of course they lost [virtualrecordings.com], but if they had won, it would have been an 'illegal' item, which would have brought me no end of satisfaction.

    What's that old adage, when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns? It wouldn't have been much different.

  • $250 to carry around half an album. Genius! You really had to be a gimmick fan to be an early adopter for mp3 players.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      $250 to carry around half an album. Genius! You really had to be a gimmick fan to be an early adopter for mp3 players.

      Hey I had one and to be honest I loved it, running with a mp3 player versus running with a CD player, which would you choose?
    • Re:Crippleware (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Mechanik (104328) on Monday March 10 2008, @09:09PM (#22711138) Homepage
      $250 to carry around half an album. Genius! You really had to be a gimmick fan to be an early adopter for mp3 players.

      Or a jogger.

      I remember at the time most CD players (and MP3 CD players eventually) had a bad problem with skipping if you ran with one strapped to your belt. There was so called "anti-skip" technology (just a buffer that in theory would get you through the period you skipped the disc), but it didn't work very well. Vigorous joggers (or rope jumpers, etc.) would find that their players still skipped. I had a few friends that were early adopters of flash based players because flash just didn't skip. It was better to listen to half an album than it was to have a full CD and be constantly annoyed by the audio cutting out.
  • by siddesu (698447) on Monday March 10 2008, @09:18PM (#22711194)
    to study foreign languages. I had (from the ages before the internets) lots of language tapes, which I compressed about the time I got the thing. Since they sound a lot like bad phone anyway, compressing them to a low bitrate doesn't relly matter much. So, don't look down on 10 year old technology. Even in this age it can be put to good use ;)
    • I'm enjoying my MPMan (well, actually, an F20V, not the F10, to be accurate) - I've had a Zen, an iPod, and a few other things, but I keep coming back to the F20V like an old friend.

      Even though it only takes data transfer over proprietary parallel.

      Even though it doesn't support VBR MP3s because it apparently doesn't support some bitrates.

      Because it hasn't broken in almost a decade of use.
  • by Telecommando (513768) on Tuesday March 11 2008, @07:29AM (#22714350)
    By personal player I assume they mean portable player. I bought my first mp3 player in 1996 or `97 from Corporate Systems Center. (Copyright on the manual says 1996.)

    It's a desktop unit with hard drive and CD player called the MP3 CD Blast It! It has a 4x40 backlit LCD display, built in amp and speakers, plays both CDs and MP3 disks. I still have it on my desk at work and it still works great. Hard drive is a little small (80M or less, I think), but I mostly listen to mp3s from the cd player anyway.
      • You're one step ahead of yourself. You need to marry a gf before you can get a DIVORCE.