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MediaDefender's Parent Company Joins P2P Market
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Soulskill
on Sat Oct 04, 2008 07:19 AM
from the playing-both-sides dept.
from the playing-both-sides dept.
An anonymous reader writes with news that ArtistDirect, the company who acquired MediaDefender, has launched another company called PiCast for the purpose of P2P video distribution. The reader says:
"This is a strange twist for a company which last year set up a video-sharing site called Miivi in an attempt to entrap users uploading copyrighted content, and was caught launching a DoS attack against Revision3, which we discussed earlier this year."
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I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "Wired has an interview with MediaDefender in which they try to explain why they attacked Revision3, which uses BitTorrent to host its own content. Somehow it eluded MediaDefender that they had injected fake content into Revision3's tracker, so when Revision3 changed configuration to forbid this injection, MediaDefender's systems saw it as a pirate tracker with lots of illegal content (which MediaDefender had put there) and attacked. In other words, everything they did was intentional except for the choice of target. Given that they have 9 Gbps of bandwidth dedicated to denial-of-service attacks against torrent trackers, all anyone needs to do is to trick them into attacking a hospital or government facility. MediaDefender has never been very competent, after all."
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Really? Then what's that big yellow thing I keep seeing past the clouds?
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Re: (Score:2, Interesting)
Uh... BULLSHIT.
I don't know what set of emails you read. But the ones i read sure paint these people as complete scumbags looking to entrap users by any means.
While laughing about screwing people over for what they were doing themselves.
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All right, so dig out one of those supposedly incriminating mails and show us!
True or not, I don't trust them... (Score:2)
Well, the nice thing is that even if they're sincere, they'll still be hacking & DoSing their competitors.
Oh, and I read those emails too, but I didn't see much about MiiVi at all, except when they were talking about the bestiality and child porn filters (apparently they have samples of that stuff!?!).
Unfortunately, MediaDefender-Defenders.com seems to have vanished a while back (it forwards to TPB instead of having browsable emails), so I can't really check any more. Yeah, there are torrents [thepiratebay.org] that are
Re:Not quite (Score:5, Informative)
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Because it's quite obvious that the big content owners have significant influence over our legal systems.
Yet they still have no control over our illegal systems; thus why such systems exist.
If I pay for it, it's my system, I want to control it. If you want it to be your system so you can control it, don't take my money and hand it over to me.
(I know, you meant legal system, but your ironic typo left set quite a nice stage for me to make my point.)
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You shouldn't be attacking his incorrect use of a plural! Just because you're on the Internets doesn't mean you can clogg up the series of tubes(not to be confused with a big truck) with your hatred. The Google will cache those pages!
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Lulz.
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But only one over which they demonstrate any control. I'm pretty sure that's what he meant.
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This is slashdot. You can say 'ass' here.
TBH, I don't think that we've ever received an official visit from the FCC.
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Yes, sincere so that they could flood the "market" with fake files, among other things. Nothing in the e-mails made it seem sincere about what they had in mind (nor un-sincere). All they wanted to do was distance the names from each other.
I can see why they wanted to distance the names from each other, but they could have spun it in a positive fashion if they wanted to.
In any case, would you trust any sort of service coming from these jackals?
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Yes, sincere so that they could flood the "market" with fake files, among other things.
I got the impression they'd be selling it as a more controlled form of P2P, that would have copyright filters and such in place to prevent the need for those kind of tactics. Whether they could actually provide that is another question entirely, of course.
In any case, would you trust any sort of service coming from these jackals?
Probably not. But it wouldn't be because of those mails. The mails made it seem a lot less malicious than what my first impression of it was.
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+1 switched-on cookie
+1 underrated.
Strange twist? (Score:5, Insightful)
How is setting up another scam service considered a "strange twist"?
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How is setting up another scam service considered a "strange twist"?
It isn't a strange twist for them to be setting up a legit company for legit paid-for content either.
Infact, the only "strange twist" that could occur is if they went against their primary motive of chasing cash from their activities in p2p - and suddenly decided to support piracy in earnest.
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It isn't a strange twist for them to be setting up a legit company for legit paid-for content either.
Given what they did to Revision3, which was a legit company distributing legit, free content, it seems like very much a strange twist.
Of course, if I get slightly more cynical, of course it makes sense -- good PR about them doing legit P2P, to counter bad PR about them attacking legit P2P. In fact, in light of this, the attack on Revision3 makes sense -- it would be an attack against a competitor.
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It's only strange because the editors did not give this story an 'isatrap' tag. MediaDefender and more specifically it's board spent too much time watching 'It takes a theif' and snorting coke when they should have been paying attention in law school.
Oh where Oh where is Judge Roy Bean when you need him. He'd bring Chuck Norris in as the bailiff, and ninjas as the jury, then ask the entire prosecuting attorneys team questions from an LSAT study book before each day of court to ensure they actually sent lawy
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Obviously you do not know the legend of Judge Roy Bean. Ninjas are invisible, right? That's what the jury box would look like... empty.
Of course... (Score:2)
if you can't beat 'em, join 'em...
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if you can't beat 'em, join 'em...
I am more inclined to believe that it is a simple business rule to go where the money is. Soon they will have run their current well dry and need a new money maker to move on to. But I didn't bother to RTFA.
It's a trap. (Score:2, Interesting)
Not entirely accurate (Score:2)
*cough* Other than somehow making your group of companies appear less-than-evil. Good luck with that btw, :D
Ironic (Score:1)
"Defending" media (ha ha); now they're making their job easier... entrapment perhaps?