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Nobel Prize Winning Physicist As Energy Secretary

Posted by samzenpus on Thu Dec 11, 2008 06:57 AM
from the the-man-for-the-job dept.
bledri writes "Officials close to the Obama transition team say that Physics Nobel Laureate Steven Chu is the likely candidate for Energy Secretary. Some are worried that Chu is not politically savvy enough, but I'm hopeful that a scientist will base policy on evidence. Discuss among yourselves."
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  • Great! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by D-Cypell (446534) on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:01AM (#26073137)

    For the first time in *at least* 8 years, I am quite jealous of you US guys. If you ask me, people in senior positions are are not 'politically savvy enough' is *exactly* what the world needs right now.

  • we have to move beyond coal and oil, for all of the obvious environmental and geopolitical reasons. we can't keep dumping carbon into our atmosphere, we can't keep funding saudi wahabbism, russian neoimperialism, and venezuelan blowhards. the only we are going to do this is through science

    so hopefully, we'll get the following out of washington dc:

    1. more nuclear power plants
    2. more funding for fusion research
    3. now that we have nationalized the car industry, we put a gun to the heads of the fuckers and detroit and force them to make more, cheaper electric cars. force this on them as a priority
    4. the infrastructure to allow for battery swapping nationwide

    of course, the american consumer has to be dragged kicking and screaming out of his SUV and into a post-oil and coal future. so be it. the only person who is going to be the visionary to do this is a scientist. he has plenty of support in his bully pulpit role from those of us who "get it". we finally just elected an administration it seems that also gets it

    where it= oil and coal need to go the way of history

      • but all of the downside, including what you listed above, is not as big a downside as that of oil and coal

        environment: we pollute our air
        geopolitics: we fund our enemies

        those two take the cake when compared to nuclear and electric being "messy" and all the other minor issues you list. especially regarding nuclear: lookup pebble bed reactors. we can get 10x the amount of energy out of uranium, and thorium, and produce 1/10th the waste that lasts 2 centuries rather than 10,000 years. nuclear is a no-brainer. the french and japanese have been doing it for decades, deriving most of their energy from nuclear

        the french and japanese need to show the way to americans who, like you, seem to suffer from tunnel vision. it doesn't have to be oil and coal. we are using a suboptimal source for our energy needs. all of the downside to nuclear and electric do not stack up as much as the downside of oil and coal

        and then we really need to master fusion, in a century, at least. because oil and coal sources are just going to get deeper and more expensive, and uranium and thorium sources aren't going to last forever either

  • by jamie (78724) * <jamie@slashdot.org> on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:18AM (#26073245) Homepage Journal

    Salon has a story today on Obama's pick to solve the energy crisis [salon.com]:

    "You should interview Steven Chu," the scientist at the Joint Genome Institute in Walnut Creek, Calif., told me. "He already has one Nobel Prize. He wants to get a second one for solving the energy crisis."

    That was two years ago, and I sorely regret not following through and landing an interview with Chu, a physicist who has dedicated his post-Nobel Prize career to the development of alternative sources of energy. Because as Barack Obama's nominee for secretary of energy, Steven Chu is going to get a chance to make his dreams come true, with the full backing of the U.S. government.

    Since 2004, Chu has served as the director of the University of California-managed Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, spearheading, among other things, a massive research effort in solar power. To get a sense of the man's interests, here's the second sentence of his bio...:

    Chu, an early advocate for finding scientific solutions to climate change, has guided Berkeley Lab on a new mission to become the world leader in alternative and renewable energy research, particularly the development of carbon-neutral sources of energy.

    Environmentalists and climate change activists are understandably delighted. Consider this: For eight years the United States has boasted an Energy Department that for all intents and purposes was a subsidiary of the U.S. oil industry. Now, should he be confirmed, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist who specializes in climate change and renewable energy and already knows how to run a decent-size bureaucracy is going to be in charge of realizing Obama's bold promises to lead the United States toward an energy-sustainable future. Symbolically speaking, one would be hard put to draw a sharper contrast between the Bush and Obama eras than what is achieved by this single appointment.

    • by jamie (78724) * <jamie@slashdot.org> on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:35AM (#26073353) Homepage Journal

      And hey, here's more. I'm just 8 minutes into this talk and I'm already on his side.

      Steve Chu: A New Energy Program [fora.tv]

    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:48AM (#26073431)

      Environmentalists and climate change activists are understandably delighted. Consider this: For eight years the United States has boasted an Energy Department that for all intents and purposes was a subsidiary of the U.S. oil industry. Now, should he be confirmed, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist who specializes in climate change and renewable energy and already knows how to run a decent-size bureaucracy is going to be in charge of realizing Obama's bold promises to lead the United States toward an energy-sustainable future. Symbolically speaking, one would be hard put to draw a sharper contrast between the Bush and Obama eras than what is achieved by this single appointment.

      Try to put aside your prejudices and look at the actual facts on the ground.

      If one were to draw a break between Secretaries of Energy, it ought to be drawn in 2004.

      The Secretaries under Clinton and Bush's first term -- namely, Hazel O'Leary, Federico Pena, Bill Richardson, and Spencer Abraham -- were essentially a bunch of politicians and lawyers. They had little or no scientific or engineering background, and showed little interest in any matters far beyond politics or big business.

      But the current Secretary of Energy, Sam Bodman, was a professor of Chemical Engineering at MIT. As a chemical engineer, his work had much to do with the practical side of energy technology. He's done a good job during the last four years.

      Steven Chu is a Nobel prize winning physicist whose best known work is a technique for the supercooling of gases. As Director of LBNL, he must also have picked up quite a lot of administrative experience and political savvy.

      They are both much more qualified and capable than their pre-2004 predecessors.

    • by Colonel Korn (1258968) on Thursday December 11 2008, @09:39AM (#26074553)

      Note that national labs didn't have anything like the focus on renewable energy that Chu created at LBL until he did that a few years ago. This man is a very effective politician, a great scientist, and a real visionary.

  • by Mutatis Mutandis (921530) on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:20AM (#26073255)

    Chu must have reasonable political skills, as he the director of the Berkeley Lab, an organization with 4000 people and a budget of half a billion. The management of a scientific organization of this nature is usually quite challenging, if only because many of the people employed by it are (necessarily) independent-minded and headstrong. There is more back-stabbing in academic labs than in Washington DC.

    Putting a scientist in charge of energy policy is a good idea. A factually justified, realistic energy policy is urgently needed.

    Besides, during the last few years people in the public research departments have been demoralized by a political leadership that made it clearly felt that it couldn't care less about scientific data and factual reality. The DoE needs a leader who has the confidence of its staff. Chu could be that leader.

  • by DustyCase (619304) on Thursday December 11 2008, @08:12AM (#26073599)
    An anonymous source says that Chu has solved the pickle matrix, and has made significant progress on the rebigulator. DOE should be a piece of cake.
    • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Nerdfest (867930) on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:03AM (#26073149)
      It's dangerous to tear down someone who is vastly smarter than you, especially when they're right about something. The danger of doing it may temper some of the sillier political games.
      • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

        by gravesb (967413) on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:11AM (#26073201) Homepage
        Not really. Someone without political savvy won't see the games until it is too late. I hope that he does well, and that his experiences encourage this kind of meritocracy in the future. However, it is far easier to appoint a technocrat to the cabinet position and surround him with brilliant academics. Let them provide him with the best courses of action, and let him go through the stupid political games to accomplish those. Of course, that requires a president who is willing to force their secretaries to listen to the academics. But if you are willing to appoint an academic to a cabinet post, then surely you are willing to make a cabinet secretary listen to his advisors.
        • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Interesting)

          by sam0vi (985269) on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:54AM (#26073485)

          it is far easier to appoint a technocrat to the cabinet position and surround him with brilliant academics

          And that's exactly what they are doing. It's just that the technocrat in this case would be the President, and the academics would be his staff, whose primary goal is to advise him. How far along the chain of command do you want to place the smart guys? Down on the basement? Don't forget they are just coming with the ideas; every single decision is the President's.

            • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

              by blind biker (1066130) on Thursday December 11 2008, @09:14AM (#26074229) Journal

              There is too much for the president to handle for him to be in that role. That's why they created cabinet positions, OPM, and the like. The executive branch is too large for the president to be the main political player. Besides, you need someone playing the political games when the President is doing figure head stuff. Someone with some savvy needs to be down in the weeds why the president is glad-handing.

              You just described the vice president. And never was this description best fitted than in this case, with the VP being more experienced than the president himself.

              I completely support the appointment of a Nobel laureate scientist to important govt positions. The problem is not the scientist's lack of political experience, the problem is the system - which is not just broken but fetid-rotten.

            • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

              by docgiggles (1425995) on Thursday December 11 2008, @10:02AM (#26074871)
              I think that having a scientist rather then an administrator is key for change in the Obama administration because it shows that people who actually know their fields will be chosen to lead them. Also, as a Nobel winner, he has been proven to be extremely intelligent and a good choice
          • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

            by Wonko the Sane (25252) * <wts42@yahoo.com> on Thursday December 11 2008, @09:17AM (#26074265) Homepage Journal

            The general public needs to get over its delusion that scientists are some sort of priesthood that exists to tell them The One True Way and save them the trouble of having to understand issues well enough to make their own informed decisions about what is best.

            Mankind needs to get over its delusion that some sort of priesthood exists to tell them the One True Way.

          • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

            by Palpitations (1092597) * on Thursday December 11 2008, @10:08AM (#26074979)

            Any real policy involves trade offs between what's best for a large number of different groups, each of which has different needs, goals, tolerance for risk, etc. Deciding how to make those tradeoffs and select who's interests take priority in any given situation is largely subjective. While science can help determine how feasible a given proposal is (and even then, it's more in the realm of engineering than science), it's silent on which solution is best.

            I'd like to direct you to Dr. Chu's opening speech [youtube.com] from UC Berkeley's California & The Future of Environmental Law & Policy event. While 45 minutes is far too short to go over everything (and far too long for a crowd that almost never bothers to RTFA), he addresses some of the points you make. This is from back in 2005 or so, I gather, but it's clear he has a good grasp on the challenges and potential solutions to be found. I can only imagine that he's refined his positions and proposals since then, but is the first related thing I found when I looked this morning. There's probably something more recent and relevant out there.

            In any case, I applaud this choice. It sure beats the venture capitalist/CEO/treasury wonk we've got now (in his credit, he does have an Sc.D. in chemical engineering - but it seems like he's never used it, preferring to go into the financial sector instead). Before him, we had a law professor. Before that, someone who studied French/poli-sci/foreign affairs. Before that, another lawyer. I'm sure you get the idea... There has never been someone with anywhere near his credentials appointed to the job.

          • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

            by orielbean (936271) on Thursday December 11 2008, @11:12AM (#26075923)
            So you think a politician is better equipped to weigh long-term decision making in the realm of science, vs a scientist who might possibly understand the language, risks, methodology used in describing potential crises and future developement? Good luck with that. That's where we are today - crippled by the religion of politics where only the loudest hungry voice or needy lobbyist is heard. God forbid a person with knowledge earned is asked to weigh evidence and drive policy.
      • by Throtex (708974) on Thursday December 11 2008, @08:39AM (#26073809)

        Just because you can split the atom of a molecule doesn't mean you can lead the nation with a microphone.

    • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:04AM (#26073161)

      Just because someone is a great scientist does not mean the person is a good administrator or a good politician.

      Out of curiosity; do you think current politicians make good politicians?

    • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:04AM (#26073169)
      So you'd prefer to see yet another career politician shoe-horned into a job which they are barely qualified to understand? I'd much rather see people who understand the implications of their policies. It's time to end the idiocracy and get on with fixing things.
    • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Informative)

      by Sockatume (732728) on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:11AM (#26073205) Homepage
      He's director of Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, a 4000-staff, 1000-student (ish) research facility with a half-billion dollar budget. I'd say he's got the "administrator" part down.
      • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

        by stephanruby (542433) on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:33AM (#26073341)
        Plus he's got a Nobel prize. Do you realize how many scientists want that prize? I say that's his political qualification right there.
        • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Sockatume (732728) on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:50AM (#26073449) Homepage
          Certainly, there's a whole lot of skills there that he's not necessairly got. However he's not just some Nobel-winning basement-dweller as one might assume, he's got some serious credentials when it comes to organising and funding research efforts, which is a pretty substantial proportion of the DoE's work. I'm surprised there hasn't been a scientist of any kind in that position before.
          • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

            by dkleinsc (563838) on Thursday December 11 2008, @08:36AM (#26073787)

            And another important point is that this appointment says quite clearly that Obama expects the DOE to use scientific methods and procedures as the basis for what it's doing. When you're charging an organization with the task of fixing the US energy problem, that's exactly what you want.

            Imagine, if you will, a Department of Energy focused on keeping the oil, coal, and gas companies happy. Oh wait, you don't need to imagine that, because that's what we've had for several decades.

          • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Informative)

            by Sockatume (732728) on Thursday December 11 2008, @09:37AM (#26074537) Homepage
            I should correct myself here, Bodman (current DoE secretary) is a former MIT professor of chemical engineering. So there's a precident here for putting high-ranking academics in that position.
        • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

          by javaxjb (931766) on Thursday December 11 2008, @08:01AM (#26073537)

          Yes, but administrating a group of scientists and grad students is nor the same as running a cabinet level agency. That is especially so if he ends up being alone and politically isolated. This kind of thing takes different skills.

          Because we all know, of course, that there are no politics in decision making at research facilities and educational institutions (or the research journals that help advance such careers).

        • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Yvanhoe (564877) on Thursday December 11 2008, @08:12AM (#26073603) Journal
          Well, administrating a company was considered a good enough proof of managerial and administrator skills even if a company is very different from a government agency. The result was that government agencies were managed like private companies. Now this man will probably manage a government agency like an educational and scientific institution. This will be different, that is sure, but how is this worse ?
        • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Rogerborg (306625) on Thursday December 11 2008, @09:40AM (#26074561) Homepage

          [running a cabinet level agency] takes different skills.

          It's such a shame that he'll be unable to learn them, what with being such a notorious doofus.

          We should instead continue to appoint loyal political apparatchiks who - as we all know - can pick up all that silly old "science" stuff overnight, should they ever feel the need.

    • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Jugalator (259273) on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:12AM (#26073211) Journal

      Everybody has limitations, and it would be better to get someone who can listen to scientists and engineers and also be a great administrator.

      So you mean this one can't?

      Just because scientists can be poor politicians, it doesn't mean all are, and this bright guy could just maybe have skills in both departments. These are things they may have found out before moving their eyes to this guy. I'm far from certain Obama in person looked at Nobel prize winners and said "Hey, let's try this guy!"

        • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Interesting)

          by Chrisq (894406) on Thursday December 11 2008, @08:30AM (#26073725)
          Much as I hate Margret Thatcher nobody could say that she was not an able politician. (I hesitate to use the word good). Thatcher had a BSc degree in chemistry. Her one redeeming feature was that she did take global warming seriously and could see through the petrochemical industries FUD.
          • by Sockatume (732728) on Thursday December 11 2008, @09:34AM (#26074483) Homepage
            Also, she apparently played a pivotal role in the development of soft-serve ice-cream. In a world with runaway global warming, soft-serve would not be necessary. She was just protecting her time investment in that work.
    • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Lumpy (12016) on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:39AM (#26073373) Homepage

      Just because someone is a Administrator or politician does not mean they are a GOOD administrator or GOOD politician.

      After seeing the corrupt and just plain old EVIL members of the senate and house, let along cabinet positions. If he does his job honestly he will be better than those that were in the position for the past 8 years.

      Cripes we have people in other countries comparing Dick Cheney to Saddam Hussein. And from some of his actions, I dont think a great scientist will have any problem doing a fantastic job in that position.

      I just hope he has the intestinal fortitude to tell members of the congress and other parts of the government that they are flat out stupid when they make a suggestion that is absurd.

      • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Vellmont (569020) on Thursday December 11 2008, @09:31AM (#26074451)


        Just because someone is a Administrator or politician does not mean they are a GOOD administrator or GOOD politician.

        That's true of any job. I guess I don't really understand your point. That we shouldn't assume someone we don't know will be good at a job they've never done?

        I don't know if he'll be any good at being Energy secretary. I did see him speak a couple years ago at the Nobel Conference on Energy, and he was a great speaker with very good ideas. From what I recall one of his main messages was "Fail fast", in other words try a lot of ideas and see which ones work and which don't quickly. IMO that's really _exactly_ what we need to do. I will say this though. The past Energy secretaries certainly haven't done jack-squat for energy policy in this country, and the vast majority of them were politicians. So it's not like the politicians have some great track record that Chu has to live up to.

    • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Colonel Korn (1258968) on Thursday December 11 2008, @09:35AM (#26074495)

      Your mistake is assuming that a great scientist isn't a great administrator. Chu has been leading LBL with incredible success for four years, and under his leadership LBL has become the most focused national lab, and that focus is on alternative energy generation and storage. I've never met anyone who had a better understanding of both the science and practicality of alternative energy than Steven Chu. Picking Chu is Obama's best choice to date.

    • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Informative)

      by BenSnyder (253224) on Thursday December 11 2008, @11:20AM (#26076073) Homepage

      Obama's pick to solve the energy crisis [salon.com]

      "You should interview Steven Chu," the scientist at the Joint Genome Institute in Walnut Creek, Calif., told me. "He already has one Nobel Prize. [nobelprize.org] He wants to get a second one for solving the energy crisis."

      That was two years ago, and I sorely regret not following through and landing an interview with Chu, a physicist who has dedicated his post-Nobel Prize career to the development of alternative sources of energy. Because as Barack Obama's nominee for secretary of energy, Steven Chu is going to get a chance to make his dreams come true, with the full backing of the U.S. government.

      Since 2004, Chu has served as the director of the University of California-managed Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, spearheading, among other things, a massive research effort in solar power. [nanohub.org] To get a sense of the man's interests, here's the second sentence of his bio at the LBNL Web site. [lbl.gov] (LBNL, located in Berkeley, Calif., should be distinguished from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, which does weapons research for the U.S. government.)

      Chu, an early advocate for finding scientific solutions to climate change, has guided Berkeley Lab on a new mission to become the world leader in alternative and renewable energy research, particularly the development of carbon-neutral sources of energy.

      Environmentalists and climate change activists are understandably delighted. [climateprogress.org] Consider this: For eight years the United States has boasted an Energy Department that for all intents and purposes was a subsidiary of the U.S. oil industry. Now, should he be confirmed, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist who specializes in climate change and renewable energy and already knows how to run a decent-size bureaucracy is going to be in charge of realizing Obama's bold promises to lead the United States toward an energy-sustainable future. Symbolically speaking, one would be hard put to draw a sharper contrast between the Bush and Obama eras than what is achieved by this single appointment.

      That said, Steven Chu is no stranger to Big Oil. He was instrumental in helping U.C. Berkeley land one of the biggest corporate bonanzas ever -- $500 million from British Petroleum to establish the Energy Biosciences Institute, an ambitious joint venture [salon.com] that has been controversial from the get-go at Berkeley because of its plans to use oil money to do research and development into energy crops and other biofuel wizardry.

      And, as I noted after seeing him talk in early 2007 [salon.com] at a symposium titled "Domestic Bioenergy: Weaning Ourselves From Foreign Oil Addiction," held at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, he is on record as being a bit hyperbolic as to the potential of biofuels.

      There is enough marginal, unused agricultural land in the United States to generate the biomass necessary to reach the one-third goal [of displacing annual American gasoline consumption with biofuels,] without displacing food production, said Steven Chu, the Nobel physics prize winner who runs the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. And the laws of thermodynamics won't need to be broken -- there is more than enough energy hitting the earth every day as sunlight to supply all of humanity's energy needs.

      You can find plenty of scientists who will dispute such assertions, [salon.com] right

      • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

        by erroneus (253617) on Thursday December 11 2008, @07:56AM (#26073503) Homepage

        I would rather see an inventor run a business than a marketer. Too much of what is wrong with business today is related to the inevitable shift away from decisions favoring integrity and quality to decisions about what is thought to improve the "bottom line." Dell has always made good computers and was the leader in service. They have since moved the vast majority of those key advantage points out of the country and the result has made them less competitive. It is simply a bad business decision that has resulted in a loss of a loyal customer base. And I don't care what business school you went to, in business, there is NOTHING more important than keeping your customers.

        Placing experts in their fields in control of policy making is smarter than putting politicians in those seats for the very same reasons.

        And to be fair, it is true that some people with one skill set may not often have others. But I have also known many technical experts ALSO have good skills with people. They are rare, but they exist. I work for an architectural firm. My CEO is an architect, not a marketer. He understands marketing and is also an outstanding speaker. But he will not compromise on quality nor on integrity because he sees clearly where that leads. And in today's business environment where construction is slowing and even halting, our office has work stacked up for the next two to three years to come. The reason for this is that he works and plans for the horizon and he has a reputation for taking very good care of his clients with non compromise in honesty or quality of work and he owns his mistakes completely. And yes, I thought he was too good to be true as well. But I have seen it all happen and there is no faking actions. My company has --zero-- debt. My CEO is a multi-millionaire. He is the unquestionable picture of success and he is an Architect, not a salesman.

        I am not claiming that technical experts are ideal choices, but I will say that non-experts making decisions about things they don't fully understand is ALWAYS a mistake waiting to happen... and while the experts with social and political savvy are rare, they are not extinct. I've got one right here.

      • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Insightful)

        by je ne sais quoi (987177) on Thursday December 11 2008, @10:50AM (#26075609)
        Let me explain something to you. After the U.S.A. developed nuclear weapons during WWII, they made a very smart decision, they decided that the potential destructive power of these weapons was far to great to entrust them to the military. Thus they created the atomic energy commission [wikipedia.org] to be responsible for the weapons and development and to provide some checks and balances on the military industrial complex. The waste from nuclear power is goverened by the DOE as well, do you really want corporate america disposing of all your waste for you? Any sane person would look at how corporate america spends vast amounts of money to dodge responsibility for hard decisions and would say no.

        All Carter did was roll this functionality as well as the nuclear power waste disposal into a single agency. As for the extended missions of alternative energy, I'd say we need someone to do this because private industry has been sitting on their ass for the last three decades and spending more time developing marketing campaigns about alternative energy than actually developing the energy sources.

        I can't believe I bothered spending ten minutes writing this comment, libertarians are so blind, it's pathetic.
          • Re:Terrible Idea (Score:5, Informative)

            by mzs (595629) on Thursday December 11 2008, @10:16AM (#26075085)

            Do you have any evidence to support that opinion? Look the DOE is great at running big science projects. Ones that involve tunnels, cryo, massive underground detectors, etc. The DOE almost always does it under budget and on time (the big disaster was the SSC but that fell apart because of politics from the Congress and president). Compare that to the record of the NSF and NASA. NASA is great at large projects at well, but the project management comes in over budget and late more than 50% of the time and anytime the NSF has done anything big approaching the scale of medium DOE, it has always been late and over budget.

            If it was not for the DOE big physics outside of astro and cosmo would be run by the military and NSF. Finally the office of science is only one aspect of the DOE.

      • by elrous0 (869638) * on Thursday December 11 2008, @08:30AM (#26073729)
        How dare you imply that Jesus isn't a proud American! Do you think it was just a coincidence that King James wrote the Bible in english back in biblical times? You're obviously one of those Marxists, like Obama.
    • Re:Great news (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Notquitecajun (1073646) on Thursday December 11 2008, @08:33AM (#26073755)
      Wait, what? Most of Obama's appointments are Clinton retreads or Chicagoland pols. Chu is one of the first appointments that more or less goes with the whole "change" mantra.
      • Re:Great news (Score:5, Insightful)

        by ratnerstar (609443) on Thursday December 11 2008, @09:29AM (#26074405) Homepage
        Speaking purely for myself, the "change" I was looking for when I voted for Barack Obama was a shift towards competence and practicality in government. I want Obama to choose the best -- the smartest, the most savvy, the most accomplished, the hardest working -- people to help him lead the country, and I don't give a damn whether they used to be in the Clinton administration.

        When I look at his appointments so far, I see three extremely respected economists, an absolutely superb and forward thinking Defense Secretary, a Nobel laureate for Energy, a woman with international recognition and appeal for State, a HHS secretary with a record of working for universal health care, and a tough bastard as CoS to push the agenda through. That's what I want.

        I don't know what change you were looking for, but I'm happy.

    • by Shag (3737) <danNO@SPAMbirchalls.net> on Thursday December 11 2008, @09:42AM (#26074601) Homepage

      He also has a Nobel prize and has become a moral authority on climate change and energy

      I saw Al Gore speak less than 2 hours ago (at Polska Akademii Nauk, introducing a presentation by Wieslaw Maslowski, an expert on the arctic ice cap) and during his remarks, he repeatedly pointed out that although he's worked to improve his understanding of things, he is a layman. Yes, he has a Nobel prize - but it's the Peace prize, not one in the sciences. That makes him a moral authority, but not a scientific authority, as he isn't a scientist.

      There is no doubt in my mind that he's a brilliant politician and policy guy, and great at raising public awareness, but I'm sure all the scientists at the numerous Department of Energy labs will be happier with Chu in charge.