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RIAA To Stop Prosecuting Individual File Sharers

Posted by kdawson on Fri Dec 19, 2008 08:16 AM
from the declare-victory-and-withdraw dept.
debatem1 writes "According to the Wall Street Journal, the RIAA has decided to abandon its current tactic of suing individuals for sharing copyrighted music. Ongoing lawsuits will be pursued to completion, but no new ones will be filed. The RIAA is going to try working with the ISPs to limit file-sharing services and cut off repeated users. This very surprising development apparently comes as a result of public distaste for the campaign." An RIAA spokesman is quoted as saying that the litigation campaign has been "successful in raising the public's awareness that file-sharing is illegal."
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  • Dear Sir,

    We are a group of UK film and TV producers, directors and writers. We are concerned that the successes of the creative industries in the UK are being undermined by the illegal online file-sharing [today.com] of film and TV.

    We are asking the Government to show its support by ensuring that internet service providers play their part in tackling this huge problem by giving us money. Lots of money. Just keep piling it in, we'll tell you when it's enough.

    In 2007, up to (well, it could be) 25 per cent of all online TV piracy took place in the UK. Popular shows are downloaded illegally hundreds of thousands of times per episode, and some of them might even be ours rather than something American made with an actual budget.

    It is true that in 2008, UK commercial TV broadcasters enjoyed the highest viewing figures in five years, that total TV viewing was up 10% year-on-year, and the valuable yet hard-to-reach 16 to 24-year-old demographic (the typical file-sharer) watched 4.9% more commercial TV and saw 12% more ads. But it's the principle of the thing: someone is getting money from something that touches something one of us once touched, therefore the money belongs to us. This is the style of corporate thinking that brought Britain its great economic gains from 1997 to 2007, after all.At a time when so many jobs are being lost in the wider economy, it is especially important that our gravy train be maintained.

    Internet service providers have the ability to change the behaviour of those customers who illegally distribute content online. They have the power to make significant change and to prevent their infrastructure from being used on a wholesale scale for illegal activity. They have the power to stop people looking at the cover of Virgin Killer. They have a secret magic wand that will fix everything wrong with the media industry's income streams and they are refusing, with malice aforethought, to use it. If they are not prepared to give us all the free money we ask for and a bit more besides, they should be compelled to do so.

    • by Zoxed (676559) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:52AM (#26171925) Homepage

      In case anyone is wondering this seems to be a variation on this Letter to the Times [timesonline.co.uk].

        • Europanto. The proto-language of bureaucratic circumlocutions and evasions that translates equally meaninglessly into all standard European languages. After a while, Eurocrats begin to think in it.
              • I know four languages, and I found that every language has its own nuances of meanings that you simply can't express in other languages. Air in French does not mean the same as air in English. It has other associations to it. The nice thing about everybody in Luxemburg speaking at least four languages, is that you can use them all in conversation. This greatly enhances the depth and detail of it. Which is a very beautiful thing. You should try it.

                So the only reason you expect it to be English, is that you are arrogant. Wanna know who else behaves like this? The french.
                And the Germans would be too, if not for the fear of still being called a Nazi, when it was not them but their grandparents who did it.

                Did you know that the USA nearly voted for German as their main language? And now Spanish becomes more and more dominant too. From your point (USA I guess) nearly everybody south of you speaks Spanish. In Africa tons of people speak French. In the middle east, Arabic is an international language too. And don't let me get started about China owning the USA and them being able to quickly assimilate other cultures. I already have to go to Chinese (eg. tudou.com) sites for some stuff.

                If you come to my country, learn my fuckin' language! What would you think, if I came to the USA or UK, and *expected* you to speak German (or Luxemburgish, which happens to be my mother's tongue)?

                Your arrogance disgusts me. It's always English, English, English!

                P.S.: I just found out a nice way to turn a seemingly trollish post into a more nice post: Put the first invert the order of the paragraphs. That way those with the most anger come last. ;) Oh, and my reaction is the reaction you could expect from a large part of the Europeans. You not liking it does not make it a troll. You're supposed to not like it. ;)

                • by Keen Anthony (762006) on Friday December 19 2008, @06:07PM (#26178977)

                  I'm a native German and English speaker myself. Sitting in both boats as I do, I can understand the sensitivities involved with favoring one language over another. But I find that English is really easily the best language for international communications.

                  English has several features that I think make it a better language. It's semantically open, unlike French. Adding new words to English is very simple. We can even create new verbs and nouns from the last names of people (ie. bork). It adapts existing foreign words easily. I'm often able to use "über" and "verboten" in English without getting at looks.

                  English doesn't require special accent marks in order define meanings. English has simplified definite and indefinite articles. Compared to German, "a", "an", and "the" are much simpler. English features no real gender. No worries about matching verbs, nouns, and articles; or even changing the meaning of a word. For possession, the Saxon genitive is efficient and simple. It accomplishes more in less space to say "John's car" rather than "the car of John". English also features simplified demonstratives, and very simplified declension of nouns. None of the der, den, dem, des conflicts that plague German and make it difficult for non-German speakers to learn. In English the placement of adjectives doesn't affect its meaning. In French you have scenarios like "un homme grand" (a great man) and "un grand homme" (a tall man). In English, you rely on the context of the adjective. Finally, English has a more direct simplified sentence structure.

                  of course, English has its downside, thinking contextually in English to find meaning vs thinking literally in French can create some confusions, I'm sure.

                  Sure, some people advocate English everywhere just because they're linguistically lazy and somewhat arrogant, but truly, there legitimate reasons for stressing English as an international language of commerce vs say, Irish where it can take an "aoi" to stress a "long i" sound, or Chinese were choosing a written form is as much a decision about your politics as it is about efficiency (simplified used in China vs traditional used in Taiwan).

              • by zooblethorpe (686757) on Friday December 19 2008, @02:59PM (#26176405)

                You say,

                Wherever you go in the world, you're not going to have to look too hard to find someone with some useable level of ability in English, you can't say that about Chinese.

                I say, "Just look for the Chinese restaurants." No, really, I'm being serious -- I've done some globetrotting, and everywhere I've gone, I've found Chinese restaurants. It's kinda funny, really, when even on remote tiny non-touristy islands in the Spanish-speaking part of the Caribbean, or on the tiny islands of the Pacific Northwest, you can find at least one Chinese restaurant somewhere.

                This reminds me of a true story of a friend of mine. He's an interesting bloke -- his dad sounds like the punchline to a weird joke, as an Iraqi Jew living in Singapore and running a Cajun pork BBQ restaurant...

                But anyway, let's call my friend Andy. He grew up partly in China, and speaks fluent Chinese and English. He was in Mexico City visiting some friends, and was walking across part of town to visit some other friends for a party. Only he'd gotten lost, and didn't speak a lick of Spanish. So what does he do? He finds the local Chinese restaurant. He walked up to the counter and asked, in flawless Chinese, how to get to XYZ address.

                The Chinese proprietor and cash register girl just stood their with their mouths wide open for a moment, before finally getting out, "Why are you speaking Chinese to us?" To which Andy replied, "Because I don't speak Spanish." "Oh. Well, you take a right here and a left there..."

                So seriously, knowing Chinese could also be extremely useful for international travelers. If you ever get lost, just find the local Chinese restaurant.

                Cheers,

  • by luvirini (753157) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:20AM (#26171651)

    I mean, their current methods have apparently atleast been in breach of investigative laws in several states and they may still end up in mess because of it, but ending the thing will atleast lessen the exposure..

    Alternative explanation is that they have actually understood that extortion is bad.. nah.. not likely.

    • by aurispector (530273) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:51AM (#26171917)

      The new tactic is lobby not litigate - far worse in the long run since they can keep trying to influence policy and legislation ad infinitem even if they get shot down the first time.

      • by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2008, @09:15AM (#26172147)

        It also shifts the costs of enforcement (and the negative PR) to the government. Why bother pursuing people you *think* might be infringing and deal with the situation via civil means when you can just have the FBI issue the appropriate paperwork, and have them bust the door down?

      • by Mateo_LeFou (859634) on Friday December 19 2008, @09:42AM (#26172425) Homepage

        When you actually had to break the law in order to get the RIAA all up in your jock, non-law-breakers such as myself were left in relative peace.

        Since they've now explicitly and announcedly decided to adopt a strategy of technology control measures, they just became a thorn in every geek's side.

    • by digitig (1056110) on Friday December 19 2008, @09:29AM (#26172269)

      I mean, their current methods have apparently atleast been in breach of investigative laws in several states and they may still end up in mess because of it, but ending the thing will atleast lessen the exposure..

      Alternative explanation is that they have actually understood that extortion is bad.. nah.. not likely.

      No -- look at the actual wording: "...working with the ISPs to limit file-sharing services and cut off repeated users"

      Note that's not "repeated illegal downloaders", it's repeated users of file-sharing services, whether legal or not. It means that they've learned that they can't get their way via the courts, so now they want the right to get their way without having to go through the courts. This is a bad development.

        • Re:Yep (Score:5, Funny)

          by El Yanqui (1111145) on Friday December 19 2008, @09:56AM (#26172551) Homepage

          This requires that good people, and good lawyers, fight much *harder against these azzholes. Please remember that the French RIAA (forgot its acronym) recently sued motherfscking *sourceforge!

          Any plan that requires the participation of good lawyers needs a really good plan B.

  • by spike1 (675478) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:24AM (#26171677)

    There is absolutely nothing "illegal" about using bittorrent to download the latest linux distro or open office release.

    But they want to tar every use with the same brush so they can stamp it out completely because it CAN be used in a naughty manner.

    A bread knife CAN be used to kill someone but that's not what it was designed for.

  • by Xelios (822510) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:25AM (#26171687)
    "Meanwhile, music sales continue to fall. In 2003, the industry sold 656 million albums. In 2007, the number fell to 500 million CDs and digital albums, plus 844 million paid individual song downloads -- hardly enough to make up the decline in album sales."

    Wow, so now that people are given the option of buying only the track they like instead of the whole album... album sales are dropping. Imagine that! I guess blaming it on piracy is easier than making all 12 songs on an album worth buying.
    • by theaveng (1243528) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:38AM (#26171811)

      500 million albums
      844 million singles
      ==================
      1344 million sales in 2007 >>> 656 million in 2003. Someone at RIAA needs help with math. Yes more singles sold mean less money, but it also means more happy customers which builds long-term income over the next decade.

      • by mcgrew (92797) * on Friday December 19 2008, @09:10AM (#26172099) Journal

        They also neglected to mention a few other facts: there has been an ongoing boycott of RIAA fare since Napster; CDs cost as much as DVDs to purchase, yet movies are incredibly expensive to produce while the cost of producing a CD has dropped to the point where bar bands now record without the RIAA; that RIAA fare's quality has dropped far more than their sales have (with one or two exceptions, such as Kid Rock and Buckcherry); that last century an independantly produced CD was practically impossible, yet today there are more indie titles than RIAA titles and the indies are eating the RIAA's lunch. Most indies encourage their songs to be shared.

        Oh yeah, fuel costs skyrocketed during that period, and fuel is cheap again but we're in a worldwide recession.

        Either they're stupid or they think we are.

        • by Jason Levine (196982) on Friday December 19 2008, @09:38AM (#26172375) Homepage

          I honestly don't think they're stupid, just calculating. They can't do anything about a recession or competition from other forms of entertainment without lowering their prices (something which might cut into their profits). They refuse to blame themselves and their own poor music quality. (That's just crazy talk.) So what's left are "evil Internet pirates." They pin as much blame as possible onto pirates and then try to get rules passed to stop the evil pirates. The rules have the side effect of giving the RIAA labels more money/power. (e.g. a mandatory $5/monthly "pirating" fee on your ISP bill, shotgun lawsuits, claiming that ripping CDs is illegal, claiming that all file sharing is illegal etc.) The end result, if they get their way, is a record industry that stays in power even when the market is trying to push them to the sidelines and that keeps profits artificially high.

            • Re:Mod parent UP (Score:5, Insightful)

              by mcgrew (92797) * on Friday December 19 2008, @11:52AM (#26173999) Journal

              This is an example of the ineffectiveness of "Hanlon's Razor" (Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity), but I think my more cynical "mcgrew's razor" applies here: Never attribute to stupidity or incompetence that which can be adequately explained by greedy self interest.

      • by eredin (1255034) on Friday December 19 2008, @09:11AM (#26172109)
        Considering that individual song downloads practically eliminate the physical media and distribution costs, I suspect that the RIAA isn't being completely honest regarding their profitability. Actually they don't mention profitability; they want you to assume they're hurting based on their sketchy statistics.
  • Working with the ISPs is an arms race at best. The ISPs block stuff, P2P devs come up with more and more devious ways to work around the blocks. Plus, in markets where competition is good, consumers will just vote with their feet.

    Give it up, RIAA. Come up with better ways of making money. No one is willing to spend $20 to buy an album with 1 or 2 good songs on it. And few are willing to pay for what they will always be able to get for free.

  • Even worse. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:26AM (#26171695) Journal
    For the individuals caught in them, the RIAA individual lawsuits really, really suck. Extortionate demands, no real ability to defend yourself(if your day in court costs you more than you can afford, it isn't your day in court), etc. On the other hand, though, the lawsuits as a tactic have been magnificently ineffective, and do very little to project RIAA power beyond those directly affected(and, indeed, the seem to project displeasure much further than they project obedience).

    Focusing on the ISPs is potentially much more sinister. ISP user agreements, for anything other than expensive business accounts, typically have pretty broad service agreements, so they almost definitely won't even need to involve the courts to cut you off. If the RIAA and friends are successful, they could easily obtain de facto veto power over almost anybody's internet access, without any actually illegal conduct(unlike their present tactics). There is no reason to suspect that they would be any more discriminating or accurate in using such power than they currently are in filing lawsuits(probably less, in fact, since it will be cheaper than lawsuits), so the circle of the affected will be even wider. Not good.
    • Don't panic. (Score:5, Interesting)

      by SirGarlon (845873) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:45AM (#26171859)

      So the RIAA is offering to "work with ISPs." From the sound of it, what they want is for the ISPs to do a lot of work monitoring users, and take a serious public-relations risk for banning them. If I ran an ISP, I would not exactly be falling over myself to embrace those new headaches.

      What's in it for the ISPs? If the RIAA is offering a carrot, then the size of the carrot is limited by the ever-diminishing money the RIAA has to offer. If they're trying to threaten with a stick, they're relying on either regulation, lobbying, or lawsuits -- in all three arenas, ISPs are more than a match for them in terms of money and influence.

      The more I think about it, the more I realize this is just a face-saving tactic, and the "cooperative relationship" can't last because it's contrary to the ISPs best interests.

      • Re:Don't panic. (Score:5, Interesting)

        by swillden (191260) <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Friday December 19 2008, @08:58AM (#26171961) Homepage Journal

        What's in it for the ISPs? If the RIAA is offering a carrot, then the size of the carrot is limited by the ever-diminishing money the RIAA has to offer.

        Not necessarily.

        The carrot could be the ISP's right to manipulate their user's traffic in other ways that make them money. If the RIAA can help them legitimize selective traffic management, then ISPs can start signing agreements with content providers.

        Given the reputation that the RIAA has built themselves with the lawsuits, I'm a little skeptical of their ability to help the ISPs legitimize anything, but if it succeeded it could be a big moneymaker for the ISPs.

        There may be other, less obvious, benefits to ISPs as well.

        We need net neutrality legislation to ensure that the ISPs can't do any of this.

        • Re:Don't panic. (Score:5, Insightful)

          by je ne sais quoi (987177) on Friday December 19 2008, @11:17AM (#26173563)
          There's another possibility that occurs to me by a line in TFA:

          Over the summer, New York State Attorney General Andrew Cuomo began brokering an agreement between the recording industry and the ISPs that would address both sides' piracy concerns. "We wanted to end the litigation," said Steven Cohen, Mr. Cuomo's chief of staff. "It's not helpful."

          As the RIAA worked to cut deals with individual ISPs, Mr. Cuomo's office started working on a broader plan under which major ISPs would agree to work to prevent illegal file-sharing.

          It looks like the RIAA could be lobbying governments to force ISPs to forward infringement notices.

          I am worried about this because if some jack-ass at MediaSentry goes and mistakenly identifies my IP because I'm sharing some linux distros or whatever, then I get a note from my ISP saying they're slowing my service down because I'm a pirate. Now, I'm forced to sue the ISP in order to get the service I paid for. All the onus is on me to take action against the ISP to clear my name, this is much, much worse than what was happening before because rather than the RIAA having to prove that their copyrights have been infringed upon, it will be up to the accused to prove that he or she isn't guilty.

  • by mysidia (191772) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:26AM (#26171705)

    Because they were starting to lose.

    They were starting to get in trouble with the courts, because they were filing lawsuits, and they in many cases had insufficient evidence to prove wrongdoing.

    There were many cases where they were prosecuting innocent people, and this would ultimately be seen as harassment/abuse of the courts, resulting in sanctions for the RIAA.

    The new approach will be more expedient, and less costly, since their victims don't get any due process rights.

    They just send a letter to your ISP, and your ISP assumes you guilty.

    You no longer have a chance to prove your innocence. If the RIAA doesn't like you and wants your connection turned off, they'll now have the means to make it happen, if your ISP joins their program.

    See the article:

    Depending on the agreement, the ISP will either forward the note to customers, or alert customers that they appear to be uploading music illegally, and ask them to stop. If the customers continue the file-sharing, they will get one or two more emails, perhaps accompanied by slower service from the provider. Finally, the ISP may cut off their access altogether.

    The RIAA said it has agreements in principle with some ISPs, but declined to say which ones. But ISPs, which are increasingly cutting content deals of their own with entertainment companies, may have more incentive to work with the music labels now than in previous years.

  • Outside (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Meneth (872868) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:27AM (#26171707)
    So, they're going to try running their extortions entirely outside the courts now? This'll be a good test of the ISPs.
    • Re:Outside (Score:5, Interesting)

      by TubeSteak (669689) on Friday December 19 2008, @10:33AM (#26173031) Journal

      So, they're going to try running their extortions entirely outside the courts now? This'll be a good test of the ISPs.

      Test Case: Subscriber gets cut off and sues the RIAA for tortious interference with contract.

      The RIAA is now forced to prove, in front of a Judge, that they are not making "false claims and accusations" in order to induce your ISP to breach your contract. Now the RIAA is right back where they've started: in a civil trial with the same quality of evidence that isn't worth jack diddly in court.

  • by SirGarlon (845873) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:28AM (#26171723)

    An RIAA spokesman is quoted as saying that the litigation campaign has been "successful in raising the public's awareness that file-sharing is illegal."

    If it's so illegal, then why did they sue for damages (that is, compensation) rather than prosecute file-sharers for a crime? You don't sue people because they robbed banks or stabbed someone, you sue because they owe you money for some reason.

    So the real message they were sending to the public is, "File sharing takes money out of our pockets." Well, duh.

  • by Chrisq (894406) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:28AM (#26171725)

    An RIAA spokesman is quoted as saying that the litigation campaign has been "successful in raising the public's awareness that file-sharing is illegal."

    That says it all really. They have managed a disinformation campaign to make people think that file sharing is illegal. No mention of the fact that it is perfectly legal if you have rights to the work, it is public domain, or you are using it under "fair use" terms, or a number of other more obscure legal circumstances.

    Think of it this way, nobody bats an eyelid when you say "filesharing is illegal", but you would get some surprised looks if you said "video recording is illegal" or "photocopying is illegal" - they have managed to taint the technology with a possible illegal use.

    • by mcgrew (92797) * on Friday December 19 2008, @09:16AM (#26172157) Journal

      They don't really care if you share that AC-DC file, you can sample it from the radio (they've been pushing the hell out of AC-DCs latest album). It's their competetion's tunes, the indies, who don't have access to the radio that they don't want you to share.

      It's not about piracy, it's about crushing the competetion.

  • by Sockatume (732728) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:32AM (#26171743) Homepage
    It says "The RIAA is going to try to working with the ISPs to limit file-sharing services and cut off repeated users.". So they're not going to take you to court, they're just going to get your ISP to kick you off and with any luck blacklist you. ISPs are presumably so scared of the RIAA that they'll comply wherever possible.
  • The RIAA has taken to suing a lot of people who turned out to be innocent, on very flimsy evidence. If there is one thing that Americans generally dislike, it's programs, no matter how well-intentioned, that end up often getting the wrong people.

  • by houghi (78078) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:38AM (#26171803) Homepage

    http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i586.iso.torrent [opensuse.org]
    http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-x86_64.iso.torrent [opensuse.org]

    I am sharing these, now come and try to sue my ISP. He will be having a laugh. Try go after the originating provider and they will tear you a new one.

    It is nice to see that what they wanted was to misinform people about their rights.

  • Victory (Score:5, Funny)

    by monkeySauce (562927) on Friday December 19 2008, @12:00PM (#26174107) Journal

    An RIAA spokesman is quoted as saying that the litigation campaign has been "successful in raising the public's awareness that file-sharing is illegal."

    Did the spokesman make this statement in front of a huge "Mission Accomplished" banner?

  • that they stopped filing lawsuits "months ago" and haven't filed their mass lawsuits since early Fall, and that the last suit they filed was in August....I did a little investigating and found out that they've been filing tons of lawsuits right through last week [slashdot.org].
    • by rolfwind (528248) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:28AM (#26171719)

      Which leads me to ask - what would entice an ISP to follow the RIAA's 'suggestions'? Very few of them have anything to do with the entertainment industry directly. And I believe the DMCA renders immunity to anyone acting as an ISP/gateway IIRC. On the other hand, you have a paying customer.

      It would help to know what weapon an opponent such as this is going to use.

      • by theaveng (1243528) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:32AM (#26171753)

        "Banning repeat offenders will reduce your congestion issues and your costs." - RIAA

        "That sounds good to us! We already impose limits on high-bandwidth users; if you back us up we can ban them completely!" - Comcast

        "Excellent." - RIAA

        • by billcopc (196330) <vrillco@yahoo.com> on Friday December 19 2008, @09:21AM (#26172197) Homepage

          And as more and more users become interested in mass streaming media, a less restrictive ISP will suddenly show up and steal all their customers away.

          It's bandwidth. Bandwidth is relatively cheap - what Comcast users are allocated in a month, most servers push out in a single day, yet my cable bill costs more than any one of my servers.

          The infrastructure is already there, and much of it was built with government funds anyway. With deregulation and all that fun stuff, there is a lot of room for a new player to join the game, with a slightly less greedy image and a whole lotta more intertube goodness. In reality, these cheap alternatives already exist in many areas, they just don't advertise because, well, I don't expect the cable company to give good ad rates to its competitors... but they exist, and while some of them suck, a lot of them are far more generous than their colossal adversaries.

      • by Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) on Friday December 19 2008, @09:09AM (#26172079)

        Which leads me to ask - what would entice an ISP to follow the RIAA's 'suggestions'? Very few of them have anything to do with the entertainment industry directly.

        Most, if not all, major ISPs in the US have television offerings with pay-per-view and premium channels. Verizon, Comcast, Cox - just off the top of my head. Piracy is competition for those services.

    • by SirGarlon (845873) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:36AM (#26171791)

      Just like the French. First you give us fried potatoes to clog our arteries

      Hey, wait a minute! French fries allegedly come from Belgium [wikipedia.org]. Both the French and the Belgians consider the term "French fries" to be grossly unfair: the Belgians feel they deserve the credit, and the French feel they don't deserve the blame.

      Of course, there is the possibility that the first prototype fries were planted in Belgium by French agents provocateurs.

      • by Hijacked Public (999535) on Friday December 19 2008, @08:41AM (#26171839)

        It isn't like the rest of French cuisine is Richard-Simmons-Approved when eaten in the kind of quantities Americans typically eat things, so I don't see why they'd care about fries in particular.

        I liked that period of time where we were supposed to call them "Freedom Fries". It made it easier to spot imbeciles.

    • by NewYorkCountryLawyer (912032) * on Friday December 19 2008, @10:50AM (#26173247) Homepage Journal

      I'm wondering how our friend NewYorkCountyLawyer feels, waking up to discover the legal war is over? Or is it? We're all suspicious of the RIAA but my mind harkens back to the pictures of the liberation of Paris in World War II. Wonder if NYCL feels that way?

      Well my initial reaction is this:

      If it's true... it's about time. Meanwhile, what about the unfortunates who are presently entangled already in these unjust lawsuits? Why won't the RIAA drop those cases too? If it was bad business to start them, why isn't it bad business to keep on throwing good money after bad? I hope consumers will remember this 5 1/2-year reign of terror, and will shun RIAA products, and I hope the legal profession will place a black mark next to the names of those "lawyers" who participated in this foul calumny.

      If I have any additional thoughts I'll be appending them here [blogspot.com] in my "Editor's note".