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Telephony Fraudster Gets Lifetime Ban from Telecom Business
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Zonk
on Wed Mar 05, 2008 04:22 PM
from the consider-things-before-you-cram-them dept.
from the consider-things-before-you-cram-them dept.
coondoggie passed us another NetworkWorld link, this one discussing the banning of a shady telecom tycoon convicted for 'cramming'. "The owner of three companies that billed more than $30 million in bogus collect call charges, an activity known as cramming, to millions of consumers throughout the country, has been banned forever from all billing on local telephone bills. Willoughby Farr agreed to the lifetime ban as part of a federal court order settling Federal Trade Commission charges that he directed a massive unauthorized billing scam for more than two and a half years. The settlement contains a monetary judgment of $34,547,140, which will be partially satisfied by Farr's transfer to the Commission of all but $7,500 of his frozen assets, the FTC said."
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That's a fine? (Score:5, Insightful)
He billed about $30M in false charges... and it seems like that money is being used to pay the fine.
Please, someone tell me I am wrong.
Re:That's a fine? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Unfortunately, he only had about $700K in assets, so he's really repaying about 2% of it. The rest went up his nose or something.
You may seize my assets, but you can't erase the memories of night after night spent with mountains of coke and all the hookers my Viagra-riddled knob can handle!
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so...he screws us (meaning consumers) and the Feds take his ill gotten boodle? He is in reality a revenue stream generator for money to a fed alphabet soup? this trend is common in many fields; Steal, relinquish money to a Fed fine, plea bargin, released; start new company, mix and repeat
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Come on, go easy on the guy. He's clearly suffered quite a bit already, if he's had to go through his entire life with the first name "Willoughby".
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No, it's "Give it all to the government and promise never to do it again." Meanwhile, the people who were scammed are still out $30 million.
give me a break (Score:5, Insightful)
This is so bs, asswipe(s) should be thrown in jail. Sounds like someone's back got scratched.
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Don't forget that this case is being settled, not taken all the way to a jury verdict.
Wrong prespective (Score:4, Interesting)
Punishment fits the crime, and taxes don't go into keeping him in prison.
The problem is that smoking a joint laws are too tough.
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He should e forced to work on a chain gain and like in a 6x8 box until he's paid off the 30M plus a major fine. At minimum wage, I expect that to take him a few centuries.
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No, you give me a break (Score:2)
I think the pass that's given to white collar crooks in the U.S. is just sad; all it does is promote the bullshit technical legalism that passes for morality as well as furthering the business philosophy that technical manipulation of markets and the financial system is the same as real business, let alone industry.
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lets say the average salary is $30000 that means he stole a THOUSAND YEARs worth of average salery. If we assume a working lifetime is 5
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I strongly disagree. The solution is to not send stoners to jail. Nonviolent criminals should not be sent to prison. The US has more people behind bars than any other country in the world, including China. We also lead the
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I strongly disagree. The solution is to not send stoners to jail. Nonviolent criminals should not be sent to prison. The US has more people behind bars than any other country in the world, including China. We also lead the world in prisoners per capita; over 1% of our population is behind bars.
I do believe in what you said 100%, and all but two words are painfully true.
But please don't try to make it sound like the US is worse than china.
Yes, the US system is broken very very badly. It desperately needs fixed. Many laws should be relaxed if not totally removed.
But the reason we have more people in prison than china is because that same number of people in china are simply killed, if not by sentence, then directly on the spot with nothing close to a trial.
Good! (Score:2)
It was even "collect."
Classic.
How much to the Consumer? (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:How much to the Consumer? (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm sure someone else here knows more about this than me (or the not-so-helpful T-Mobile CSR's.)
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Whose lifetime, his or the industry's? (Score:4, Insightful)
Either he's turned a new leaf or he's hasn't. If he has, the ban is moot. If he hasn't, he'll find another way to be a crook.
$7,500? Won't someone think of the scumbags? (Score:2)
What's the world coming to?
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No legal paper work, leases on equipment based on the credit of your new sham company.
A motivated could set up a phone scheme fraud for nothing, not pay any of the bills, and make a lot of money in a month and then disappear.
Why is this legal? (Score:4, Interesting)
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Why not the death penalty? (Score:3, Insightful)
Now, you could say the "three strikes" thing is three convictions, not three crimes. But there's nothing to stop the prosecutors from prosecuting each crime singly. Get to the third conviction, jail him for life; get to the Xth, kill him. Simple. Fair. Proportional.
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Second, there is no reason to spend more money locking him up for this on convictions.
Third, it's three convictions, not crimes.
Forth, no individual crime is worth prosecuting them individually.
"Simple. Fair. Proportional."
It's none of those.
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Or let me put it another way. You felt that the guy deserved to die for what he'd done and *then* you tried to justify it "logically"- I'm damn willing to bet that it wasn't the other wa
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3 strikes and prison for life. 10 strikes and death. Stuff like that.
However, I'm the kind of person who says that people who do violent crimes that we DO kill them for should not be killed. People who do acts of serial murder or other mass killings are by definition mentally instable, and capitally punishing insanes is unconstitutional.
I'm still for capital punishment for treason though. I've yet to see a reasonab
"... directed a massive unauthorized billing scam" (Score:2, Insightful)
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Monthly phone bill, period. It's not like the Telcos manage their landline billing practices any more honestly than the cell phone companies do. Hell, a few years ago I moved, and had SBC come out to hook up my new lines. I got a bill for $350 for "installation" (after having been promised a thirty dollar charge.) According to SBC, the technician spent almost a whole day "wiring" my house. Which
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You should have threatened to sue and sic the FCC on them. The FCC loves to crawl up telcos' asses looking for places to attach a fine.
Great, who's next? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Can someone explain? (Score:4, Interesting)
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My guess is that this person has no morals and he has thus been alloted $7500 to start another scam business.
Most people in prison are there not because of bad morals but because of factors relating to drug use. Unlike the vast, immoral fraud committed here, drug use is treated as a crime punishable by prison and is not treated as a health issue [cnn.com], as it should be. If these fraudsters were sent to prison, they might not reform, but they certainly would pay for their crime. When was the last time a judge sa
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Insightful? (Score:3, Interesting)
I know lots of human beings, including me, that have at one time or another worked crappy jobs with no more then $20 in the bank at the end of the month.
So can this scumbag. For the rest of his life. Losing most of his paltry check to garnishment every pay period. Hopefully he can find a nice refrigerator box to live in for all I care.
Let him suck it up. He's lucky he's not in 'pound him in the ass prison'. He would be if I were in charge. The prisoners families get financially raped every time they ma
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