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OpenBSD 4.3 Released

Posted by timothy on Thu May 01, 2008 10:54 AM
from the deserves-more-praise dept.
Announcements Operating Systems Security BSD
An anonymous reader writes "OpenBSD 4.3 is now available! Released today, May 1, 2008, 4.3 introduces many new improvements and upgrades. The complete changelog is here. Torrents can be found here." As usual, this release is accompanied by a song.
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  • huh? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Why isn't this in the bsd.slashdot.org section?
  • Just so that's out of the way.

  • hmm? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Timothy Brownawell (627747) <tbrownaw@prjek.net> on Thursday May 01 2008, @11:06AM (#23264360) Journal
    /me is curious why this article is displayed as abbreviated while the gNewSense article is displayed as full text.

    • Re: (Score:1, Flamebait)

      by aliquis (678370)
      Yeah, seriously, who cares about yet another distribution of debian? Aren't there like 500 already?

    • /me is curious why this article is displayed as abbreviated while the gNewSense article is displayed as full text.
      Curious like how a perp dies in police custody?

      zing!

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Chandon Seldon (43083)

      For exactly the opposite reason from what you'd probably expect. Flame Wars = Ad views, and Slashdot has been working for years to create an atmosphere where RMS's concept of "free software" is flame war material. gNewSense article = "free software" flame war. OpenBSD is just a solid OS, and therefore triggers no flame war (except when Theo starts one - those always get full articles).

    • Yeah, I'm tired of hearing about every alpha/beta/rc that nubuntu comes out with. The BSD developers do far more work than the people working on the linux distros.
  • Here's the tracker - http://openbsd.somedomain.net/ [somedomain.net]
    Most popular architectures appear to be i386, amd64, and sparc64.

    • Re:Oblig (Score:5, Funny)

      by kellyb9 (954229) on Thursday May 01 2008, @11:20AM (#23264588)
      Did you ever think that FreeBSD is so stable, many of the users don't post?
      • HAHA OH WOW. Please tell me you're seriously asking me that.
        • Are you including the comprehensive ports tree?

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Just Some Guy (3352)

          Great! FreeBSD is grown a lot lately, the default installation is over 800 MB.

          Dang! At current prices [newegg.com], that'll cost me nearly 14 cents. That's just unacceptable.

          Sarcasm aside, I think FreeBSD long ago gave up any pretense of being a minimal OS. There's nothing at all wrong with that goal, but FreeBSD's target hardware is larger servers.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      If BSD dies, it will really be a bad day, since I'll be forced to run my servers with shitty, bloated code that is riddled with security problems (you guys call it Linux, if I recall correctly). Obligatory "the difference between BSD and Linux users is that BSD users get laid and Linux people are fat creepy nerds with no life" joke goes here.

    • A nice article regarding the new developments of 4.3 [onlamp.com]

      Yeah. It's a nice article and there are a lot of improvements. Some unexpected like the better performance for SSDs.

      Speaking of SSDs, I see CDs slowly but surely heading the way of the floppy. At some point, they're going to disappear from more or less all new units. They're off a few models already, but it's too soon to say when the tipping point will hit. When it does, the sales of read-only CDs [openbsd.org] will have to be replaced, possibly with read-write SD flash or USB sticks or something similar. Som

      • I see CDs slowly but surely heading the way of the floppy. At some point, they're going to disappear from more or less all new units. They're off a few models already, but it's too soon to say when the tipping point will hit.

        The reason that CD drives are disappearing is because of the fact that DVD drives are pretty much as cheap as any CD drive AND can read CDs (with many able to also burn CDs).

        When it does, the sales of read-only CDs will have to be replaced, possibly with read-write SD flash or USB sticks or something similar.

        This logic doesn't follow. DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-Ray drives all read CDs. Why would the elimination of drives that only read CDs mean that CDs would have to be replaced? There are still 100s of millions of the previous mentioned drives that can read them just the same.

        Some thought will have to be put into how to best deal with that when the time comes.

        This time you mention would have to extend to the end of all optical m

      • Flash drives are great but they are not great at arcivile backups.
        I don't think you will be seeing optical media going away anytime soon. DVD drives are about as cheap as CD drives and DVDR drives are very cheap.
        Optical drives are only being pulled from sub notebooks and even then they do seemed to be missed.

  • Everyone should click on the picture of their 'new rack' in the lower right of the page.
    Looks like some truly ancient hardware... are those SS-20s?

    • I'm certain that the image has been up for at least a year, so I don't know when it was 'new'.
      • Most likely these [openbsd.org] And what's wrong with SS20's or some other, older hardware?
          • SS10 and 20 machines can run up to 4 hypersparcs which keeps my hopes for SMP SPARC32 alive and with hypersparcs up to 200MHz, they make pretty good build machines. Also Ultra1's are Sun4u. It's sort of hard to hack SPARC32 on a SPARC64.

            As far as wanting machines, if you want to donate them, I'm sure they wouldn't mind hearing from you.
  • The song accompanying the distribution is against GNU licensing. The previous song were not against free software, there were funny, and against BLOB, lack of support from hardware vendors, etc. I don't see the interest in hitting other free (as in speech) project. OK, there was the problem of relicensing of a driver for the Linux kernel, but they should begin to work together instead of beginning a war.

    • but they should begin to work together instead of beginning a war.
      Get your facts straight. Hell, get some facts - at least.

      We didn't start shit.

      We're just ending the war with style [openbsd.org], baby. ;)

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Chandon Seldon (43083)

      You're not going to get anywhere by complaining about flame wars between the OpenBSD guys, the GNU guys and the Linux guys. They disagree, and all three groups have people with forcible personalities and no reason not to start a flame war. RMS was asking for it this time. Linus was asking for it last time. Theo was asking for it the time before that.

      All of these groups create very solid software - and creating a modern free OS distribution currently requires software from at least two of the groups (gcc an

    • I assume you are referring to this event, which would be the obvious start to any war (and not by the BSD folks):

      http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/13/156258 [slashdot.org]
    • There is a very good reason why the release focus is the way it is this time. It all started with this email with RMS trolling on the misc@ list (ended up being around an 800 email thread with RMS proving what a nutter he is):

      http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=119730630513821&w=2 [marc.info]

      You should also read the comment on the lyrics page. It's just under the picture in the left column:

      http://openbsd.org/lyrics.html#43 [openbsd.org]

      """
      OK, there was the problem of relicensing of a driver for the Linux kernel
      """

      Which peop
      • "Seriously, read the thread. It tells of a *very* unstable person."

        Um, I don't see how you can call a person unstable, when he has espoused an unchanged set of beliefs for three decades. That makes him about as unstable as the Rock of Gibraltar. Some other adjective might perhaps serve better in expressing your frustration with him.

        Not that it would help, as neither RMS not Theo de Raadt is likely to be moved. By anything. So these altercations are pure entertainment events that will be viewed by coming gen
        • First off, you seem to not know what that thread was about. I suggest that you read it before making any other comments that suggest that you haven't a clue as to what was discussed.

          Secondly, his beliefs have changed significantly over time. It's just that the changes are viewed by his followers as still "in the spirit" of his previous views. If you would have been involved in that thread, or even had read it, you would have seen his position change significantly even in that short period of time.

          You see
          • Hm. A list of ad hominems (the plane anecdote) and false attributions ("You cannot sell your code...") is not going to convince me that you are the sensible ones in that exchange. I like free software of all flavors, but getting dragged into byzantine wars of interpretation of the word "free" is not my idea of well-spent time. If your people had simply ignored RMS, you would have had an easier time. The Ubuntu people obviously do, since I don't see flame wars like this over gNewsense. They just made their G
  • Now, Ivan Russian Programmer will make most valuable contributions to project. Hoorah!
  • Many people think that OpenBSD is an operating system development project. In reality, OpenBSD is a trolling project that just happens to produce an OS as a happy side effect.
  • I just checked the changelog. it looks like they caved and fixed the DNS/PRNG issue.
  • Kudos to my favorite OS people for the reliability of their SMP code for sparc64. I can finally make use of all these servers! cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-III+ (rev 2.2) @ 1056 MHz cpu0: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 8192K external (512 b/l) cpu1 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-III+ (rev 2.2) @ 1056 MHz cpu1: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 8192K external (512 b/l) -a

    • Re:none for me, thanks (Score:4, Informative)

      by BobNET (119675) on Thursday May 01 2008, @12:11PM (#23265222)

      I've always liked the idea of OpenBSD but stuck with Linux because OpenBSD ISO images are so hard to find. IIRC, they do this on purpose.

      ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.3/i386/install43.iso (replace with address and path to your nearest mirror [openbsd.org] and architecture [openbsd.org] where appropriate)

    • LOL you are so 4.1 or earlier, dude.

      Get with the times!

      The OpenBSD project offers ISO files free for download now :)

    • Simple solution is to check the MD5. If it matches, you're fine. If you're worried about hogging the project's bandwidth, buy a CD set. The $50 will go to a good cause.

    • Re: (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Apparently you didn't bother looking at why the song is about Stallman. He came onto the OpenBSD mailing list and posted many many times saying how un-free OpenBSD was because it dared to link to some non-free software *in it's port's collection* in case people wanted to download some popular non-free software. He wasted a lot of his time bashing them on their home turf. It's unsurprising that they might spend a little bashing back.
    • I think it has less to do with the ideals of the FSF as much is it has to do with a month-long-flamewar that happened on their mailing list from dec to jan. In short they're not as much denouncing GNU as much as they are denouncing GNU trolls
    • No, they are opposed to the trolling of Stallman who was spreading falsehoods about their project and then refused to apologize or even acknowledge his misstatements.

    • Re: (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      no, you're misinformed. it is the FSF zealot Stallman who was frothing at the mouth accusing OpenBSD of being "not free" because of various licenses that the ports (which are installed by makefile download and compiling by the user, the binaries are not distributed with OpenBSD).

      Stallman should be ashamed of himself for spreading FUD in the OpenBSD mailing lists. He's a hypocrite, since he has made sure the FSF software has windows versions distributed. He's more interested in making a spectacle of himsel
    • I didn't realize that BSD zealots are [...]

      Please don't lump all three BSD projects and their users into one pot, thanks.

        - Hubert

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