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Google Plans To Sell Part of DoubleClick

Posted by Soulskill on Fri Apr 04, 2008 08:15 AM
from the look-we're-not-evil-see dept.
mudimba writes "Google has announced that they will be selling the search engine marketing branch of recently acquired company DoubleClick. Google's reason for the sale is that they do not want to appear to be giving preferential treatment in search rankings to DoubleClick customers. Tom Phillips, director of Google's integration with DoubleClick, said, 'Maintaining objectivity in both search and advertising is paramount to Google's mission and core to the trust we ask from our users.' Google was under scrutiny from the European Union and the FTC over their purchase of DoubleClick, but both eventually approved the deal."
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  • In related news (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 04 2008, @08:21AM (#22961648)
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      They were buying for market share less than the employees, there were obviously going to be redundancies, there always are in these mergers.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Well, that's not shocking. They've bought a company whose core technology and services are not only very like their own, but in general are vastly inferior. For the most part, they bought the customer base, not the people.

  • DoubleClick has always been one of those weird companies that seems like they are everywhere, putting cookies in my cache, and tracking my online habits. But I've never been clear what their actual business model was.

    I see now what Performix, the subcompany that Google is trying to sell, does. It sounds like SEO (search engine optimization => A process aimed at improving the search result ranking of a site by augmenting the site content and other factors to be more search engine friendly) for online sear
    • by Jellybob (597204) on Friday April 04 2008, @08:28AM (#22961690) Journal
      Their main business model is selling ad space on people's websites - find advertisers can be incredibly hard work, so a lot of sites outsource that to Double Click.

      They then sell the advertising space, and provide web apps that allow the advertisers to see how effective the campaign is, and site owners to see who's buying their ad space, and how much they're paying.

      That's also the reason there was so much scrutiny of this deal, since the largest banner advertising company has now been bought by the largest text advertising company.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        And just as an extra note - the banner ad that appeared when I posted that comment is hosted on ad.doubleclick.net.

        Now... when is Adblock going to get updated for Firefox 3 Beta 3!
          • it appears to somewhat work (as a user of beta 5 myself)

            a lot of ads don't show, and are blocked, but a bunch are making it through, even though they should be blocked.

            there are still a couple of other bugs
      • by Blakey Rat (99501) on Friday April 04 2008, @09:19AM (#22962082)
        Since I worked for a competition, I feel compelled to mention: DoubleClick may, or may not, be the largest banner advertising company on the web. They're definitely in the top three, but this isn't an industry that actually has metrics to determine who the "leader" is, like most industries do, and DoubleClick (and the other two big players in this field) don't share enough data to really determine this.

        DoubleClick is certainly the most visible to the public, though.
        • They're definitely in the top three, but this isn't an industry that actually has metrics to determine who the "leader" is, like most industries do, and DoubleClick (and the other two big players in this field) don't share enough data to really determine this.
          In fact, this is like most industries. Most companies don't like sharing data about their practises, this is valuable information to their competition.

  • by Daniel Ellard (799842) on Friday April 04 2008, @08:23AM (#22961656)

    ... to give preferential treatment.

    Given that the entire world is already divided between people who believe the conspiracy theories circulating about Google and people who love Google unconditionally, I doubt they really care too much about appearances -- people are going to think whatever they want.

    More likely this is to keep them out of court.

    • Given that the entire world is already divided
      between people who believe the conspiracy theories circulating
      about Google and people who love Google
      unconditionally,

      I don't think that most of the world cares about Google all that much. Now you would be right about the people here at slashdot.

    • Frankly I resent that. I am part of that neither of the aforementioned groups.
    • by ajs (35943) <(moc.sja) (ta) (sja)> on Friday April 04 2008, @10:40AM (#22962916) Homepage Journal

      Given that the entire world is already divided between people who believe the conspiracy theories circulating about Google and people who love Google unconditionally,
      I wonder how I and just about everyone I know ended up not being in either of those camps....

      Google has three things going for them:

      1. They have technically sophisticated folks (not just someone who has worked with computers for a few years) in executive management.

      2. They made a point of scooping up the best and the brightest at a time that they could afford it.

      3. They have the phrase "do no evil," and a clear, financial explanation of what that means in their S1.

      Most people think that point number 3 is just PR. It's not. What it is is lawsuit insurance. Every other public company in the world is required to do everything that they can possibly describe as "not quite illegal" to enhance shareholder value. Google's shareholders, on the other hand were warned up-front and in SEC filings that they can't expect that, and that shields Google from reprisals when they don't do something because they don't like where it's going (e.g. when the DoJ asks them to turn over search records and say, "but Yahoo! and MSN were only too happy to comply!")

      It doesn't mean that they're not evil. It just means that, unlike everyone else, they're not required to be.

      I don't love Google. However, I don't see any reason to fear-monger over them, which is what I see on Slashdot all too often.

  • What the hell is the difference if Google gives preferential treatment to DoubleClick customers or simply customers who pay more? Either way, the benefit to them is the same -- more money in their pockets. And neither course of actions seems to make them any more trustworthy, IMHO. The only thing that makes Google (as a search engine) trustworthy to any extent, in my mind, is that they don't try to disguise paid advertisements as search engine results.
    • "The only thing that makes Google (as a search engine) trustworthy to any extent, in my mind, is that they don't try to disguise paid advertisements as search engine results."

      Do they?
  • by cliffiecee (136220) on Friday April 04 2008, @08:25AM (#22961668) Homepage Journal
    I hope it's the evil part.
  • by Blakey Rat (99501) on Friday April 04 2008, @08:57AM (#22961878)
    If you now have search and banner campaigns through DoubleClick, suddenly your search campaigns are shuttled off to some other company? You can't feed both campaigns off the same budget anymore or access all your performance indicators in one place?

    Sounds like Google is crippling DoubleClick's search business to provide a dubious benefit.
  • by 1sockchuck (826398) on Friday April 04 2008, @09:29AM (#22962156) Homepage
    Prominent search expert Danny Sullivan outlined the reasons Google should divest Performics [searchengineland.com] in a post last month at Search Engine Land. He also notes that Microsoft has a similar conflict since it owns Aquantive, whose Avenue A/Razorfish unit offers search engine optimization.
  • by Eth1csGrad1ent (1175557) on Friday April 04 2008, @09:38AM (#22962254)
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    • by adpsimpson (956630) on Friday April 04 2008, @08:26AM (#22961682)

      This is similar to the recent two-finger salute [theregister.co.uk] given to the BPI (British equiv. of RIAA) over their proposed "Three strikes and you're out" strategy.

      By putting the customer's desire/need first, they gain the customer's trust.

      This used to be called good business.

    • I know Google wishes to maintain this don't be evil motto, but be realistic here.. A multi billion dollar company like Google certainly didn't plunge out $3.1 billion just to find out only a year later that it's immoral. Dig a little deeper and I'm sure you will find out that money is the issue, not morality.
      • by encoderer (1060616) on Friday April 04 2008, @09:32AM (#22962188)
        Of COURSE it's about money, but that doesn't mean it's not ALSO about morality!

        The bean counters create a probability curve to estimate how much revenue they could lose if the perception were to become that GOOG is manipulating their results and giving preference to the customers paying DC for search engine marketing.

        That is, how much would they lose by looking amoral.

        Subtract that from the projected revenue from that DC unit.

        If the number is negative on most points in the probability curve, then it's a no-brainer.

        But even if it's in the "barely positive" territory, say, less than $10MM a year, I could still see an enlightened manager, thinking of that motto, making the decision to forgo that marginal revenue to maintain brand cachet that is difficult to value but that could be negatively impacted by the perception of conflict of interest.

        So, certainly, it's an issue about money. But that doesn't preclude accounting for the morality of it.

      • Actually, it could very well be that this is evil. When none of the users are directly paying you and thus have no reason to stubbornly cling to you, image really does matter.