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Did NBC Alter the Olympics' Opening Ceremony?

Posted by timothy on Saturday August 09, @07:24PM
from the for-those-with-the-stomach-for-pageantry dept.
techmuse writes "Viewing the 2008 Olympics opening ceremony online at NBC's Olympics website, you can see that the order in which the countries were presented was very different from the actual order of the countries in the ceremony, as listed at Wikipedia. NBC skipped roughly 100 countries ahead, then jumped back and forth, apparently delaying the appearance of the United States in its home market until later in the broadcast. (In fact, the US team was shown on the infield before they were shown marching!) NBC did not acknowledge this in its broadcast. Is NBC altering the reality of the broadcast to boost ratings? Was this true only online, or also in the live broadcast?"

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  • This just in... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by kcbanner (929309) * on Saturday August 09, @07:25PM (#24540725) Homepage Journal
    ...American media alters the truth to boost ratings!

    Movie at 11.

    • by LostCluster (625375) * on Saturday August 09, @07:40PM (#24540861) Homepage

      Movie at 11.

      Movie at about 12mid/11pm CT on NBC affilitates tonight... due to Olympic runover. You just never know when those taped sporting events will end.

    • Re:This just in... (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 09, @08:37PM (#24541327)

      What major network television outfit publicly linked the American Antrax attacks falsely to Iraq back in 2001 and waited until 2006 to very quiet acknowledge (but not explain the source of) its deceit?

      Can boosting ratings, by feeding the American people false propaganda, be a treasonous offense?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 09, @07:26PM (#24540735)

    Last Post!!!!

  • by jackb_guppy (204733) on Saturday August 09, @07:28PM (#24540755)

    If you are not Windows or Mac, there is no web broadcast.

    Gets me thinking, how did a Slashdoter view the web broadcast... Is someone using Windows?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 09, @07:33PM (#24540791)

    Hi:

    I thought only America was in the Olympics. When did they start letting other countries participate?

  • olypics video tech (Score:5, Informative)

    by drDugan (219551) on Saturday August 09, @07:36PM (#24540819) Homepage

    I looked yesterday for where I could watch Olypics videos. Looks like I needed to instal some plugin from Microsoft that only works with "approved" browsers. Silverlight?

    I don't even mind if I'm bombarded with ads to see video. I would even pay for certain footage of one person I know competing in Beijing and some of the events. But a Microsoft player? No thanks.

    • by LostCluster (625375) * on Saturday August 09, @07:43PM (#24540893) Homepage

      There's no such thing as a television network that operates worldwide, so Olympic rights are sold on a country by country basis. Web video rights go to the TV network that owns the rights for the nation, and they have a right to lock other web videos out and responsiblity to keep their web videos within their borders. Sorry, no open media formats allowed, NBC had to go with something DRMed and they're already friendly with Microsoft, so it's no surprise NBCOlympics.com requires Sliverlight.

  • dilemma (Score:5, Funny)

    by matushorvath (972424) on Saturday August 09, @07:36PM (#24540821)

    Now I don't know whether to boycott the Olympic Games because of China ignoring human rights or because it was converted to a festival of commerce. If it goes on like this, I may be soon able to boycott each day of Olympics for a different reason.

    • Re:dilemma (Score:5, Informative)

      by lp.sresu (132124) on Saturday August 09, @07:43PM (#24540889) Homepage

      It's even more commercial if you watch it on NBC. I swear if one of the athletes so much as coughs they go to commercial. "Fuck seeing the games, here are more inspiring ads from our sponsors!"

      • Re:dilemma (Score:5, Interesting)

        by matushorvath (972424) on Saturday August 09, @08:00PM (#24541047)

        In fact, I think you are right. I can probably find a separate reason to boycott each day of the Games even now. Doping, commercialization, the new swimsuit controversy, human rights, Tibet, Avery Brundage reaction to Munich attacks, bribes deciding who will host the games, Moscow and L.A. "half-games"... and of course also the Berlin propaganda games (remember, you broke the law first ;)

  • by aralin (107264) on Saturday August 09, @07:48PM (#24540941)
    ... is that I have to actually subscribe to some local TV provider like AT&T, even if I don't own a TV, just so I could watch the NBC Olympics. There is no option for saying I don't have a TV service and to pay the sum they would receive from the local cable company directly to NBC. That is seriously outrageous.
  • by zsazsa (141679) on Saturday August 09, @07:53PM (#24540985) Homepage

    I just did a quick check of the recording of the live broadcast that I made. In every spot I checked, the order given on the Wikipedia pages matches the one in the broadcast. So, at least in the case of the broadcasted version, the ordering matches up.

  • by BanjoBob (686644) on Saturday August 09, @08:07PM (#24541093) Homepage Journal

    NBC has done an excellent job of insuring that Americans cannot watch the Olympics, the Opening Ceremony and other aspects of what is going on in China. They are the first to bitch and moan about China censorship and just look at what they're doing now! Typical media.

    They don't have cable out here so watching anything on the Internet from NBC is just not possible. They have effectively censored millions of Americans from watching the Olympics.

    What they do have has been cut up and altered to make room for all that advertising. And, just how many times do I have to hear "Ra Deem Team" from NBC. If I hear it again, I'm going to puke!

    Now, there are plenty of NON-AMERICAN web sites with the streams and videos! China has some, Germany has one, and there are others. You get the point... AVOID NBC and you can watch for free!

    • Re:not a real issue (Score:5, Informative)

      by tinycorkscrew (1192107) on Saturday August 09, @07:37PM (#24540833)
      If you had RTFA, you would know that's not the issue raised by the submitter. The question isn't how the countries were ordered, it is whether NBC's broadcast actually showed the countries in that order.
    • by techmuse (160085) on Saturday August 09, @07:54PM (#24540993)

      I did, in fact, watch the entire broadcast. The countries were not broadcast in that order. You can find the order in which they actually marched in the wikipedia page. The issue here is that NBC appears to have altered the order of the events themselves. This is different from editing out bits to fit in commercials. The *story* has changed. Example:

      1) You get out of your car and walk into a store.
      2) You pull up to the store in your car
      3) You leave your house and get into your car
      4) You drive to the store
      5) You leave the store with your purchase.

      The correct order is 3,4,2,1,5, but the story told about what you did gives the impression that something very different happened.

      • Re:not a real issue (Score:5, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 09, @07:48PM (#24540939)

        "make something up" like apply 3000 year old rules, accepted by all for ordering countries in Mandarin?

      • Re:not a real issue (Score:5, Informative)

        by fmobus (831767) on Saturday August 09, @07:52PM (#24540977)
        You sure? Wikipedia says they do have a standard collation:

        All other nations marched in name order in the language of the host nation, which in this case is the Chinese language. The collation method used is based on the names as written in Simplified Chinese characters and is similar to that used in Chinese dictionaries. The names were sorted by the number of strokes in the first character of the name, then by the total number of strokes in each subsequent character.

        So no, they didn't make anything up.

    • Re:kids today... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Saturday August 09, @08:10PM (#24541129)

      Excuse me, are you serious? It's television , FFS! They edit, it's normal. Been going on since at least the 1950s.

      This isn't the Dukes of Hazard or even Survivor. This is the Olympics. It's presented as news of the world's supposed ultimate sporting event.

      Of course, the cynical among us will note that the psudo-intellectual wrappings of competition and the human condition are just dressing to sell the product. We know this really isn't news but entertainment and that the competition comes a distant third to politics and money. We can all sit around and posture about how we expect this kind of thing. But you don't get an award for being jaded.