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The Light of Other Days 56

Cliff Lampe sheds light today on a book that he actually reviewed in the year 2003, but which due to a glitch in the Slashcode has appeared today. What would you do in a world where privacy is non-existent, and certainty absolute? How would you act? It's interesting to consider how ubiquitous observation and long-term record keeping cause us to approach this mythical world (at least in certain aspects of our lives) even without wormholes.

The Light of Other Days
author Arthur C. Clarke and Stephen Baxter
pages 316
publisher Tom Doherty Associates
rating 8
reviewer Cliff Lampe
ISBN 0312871996
summary Solid, with strong characters and interesting ideas.
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The Scenario

It's a stone's throw into the future, and an aggressive Northwest coast company (hmmmm) has developed a new technology for sending data. Harnessing a small wormhole, people are able to send data through the worm hole instantaneously. Alright, suspend disbelief and give them the benefit of the doubt on that one. This piece is just in the very beginning, and things are gonna get a whole lot wackier as we go on.

Some sort of megalomaniac entrepeneur owns the company that patents this technology, as well as several media holdings. He realizes that light waves are just another form of information, and if he can send a wormhole to some programmed location, he gets the scoop on all of his competitors. What's it mean? He can examine documents on the desks of world leaders, catch the famous in all sorts of pecadilloes, and arrange coverage of natural disasters in intimate detail and immediately. As you may imagine, the government catches wind of this and things start going to hell. This is the most interesting central idea to this book. What happens when there is no privacy at all? When your neighbors could buy a machine that allows them to watch you shagging your girlfriend if they wanted to? How are people going to cope with such an open social environment?

But hang on space fans. While society is still reeling from this total loss of privacy, the company with the wormhole patent discovers that by adjusting its strnegth, you can actually watch things from the past as they happen. Eventually they work out sound and navigation, so you can in essence watch any point in history from any angle as many times as you want.

This is the other central theme of this book that makes it interesting. Faced with an infallible memory of events, do things get better or worse? We all lie to ourselves constantly. Memory is more of a negotiation between the brain and the psyche than any sort of reliable record. How do we survive when our illusions are stripped away from us, and we have no more excuses? Every one of your mistakes is there for you, to relive in technicolor as many times as it takes for you to slit your wrists. And soon, it's not only your own sins and errors that come back to haunt you, but those of your entire species. This book deals with the loss of our myths, illusions and constructed realities, and how we go about putting them all back into place.

What's Good?

The best part of this book is the strength of the central ideas. It is plain-old interesting to consider an eventuality where all pretenses of privacy are stripped away, where it becomes nearly impossible to drop off the grid. What lengths will people go to to avoid their spying neighbors? In the book, a secret society gets started to help some people hide themselves away, some people commit suicide and others just give in to it. What would you do?

Another fascinating aspect of this book is the rate of technological change that occurs in it. No sooner does society have to adjust to having no privacy in the present, but the technology shifts and they have to give up their privacy in the past as well as the wormhole is strengthened to allow real time observation of past events. People start to put wormholes in their heads to form some sort of thought collective (yes, like in Diamond Age) and the technology takes a further twist at the end of the book. This whirlwind tour of technological changes imparts a sense of how it must feel for the characters in the book.

Clarke and Baxter do an admirable job of weaving together their individual strengths as authors. The descriptions of the deep past, which is Baxter's purview, are compelling and the contributions of Clarke's are as obvious and as well produced. Baxter has proven to be a quality sci-fi writer and is ably supported by one of the mythic legends of the genre.

What's Bad?

The same whirlwind introduction of elements that are a strength of this story at times become ravelled at the edges and leave a feeling of plot holes. There were times that the story shifts so much that I felt like rubbing my neck in sympathethic whiplash pains. While this does create an impression of confusion that is appropriate to the central themes of the book, it is also distracting at points in the story.

Also, there is a good bit of this book that deals with the personal relationships of the main characters. It's not that these interactions are poorly done, it's just that I would have preferred that ink be spent on delving more into applications of the technology at the center of the story. Now, I'm not one of those wackos that is against any sort of attention to the personal lives of the characters in my sci-fi, but it seemed extraneous in this particular offering.

So What's In It For Me?

At the time of writing, this book is ubiquitous in airports and other places where they have paperback bestsellers available. The Light of Other Days is a perfect read for those types of "trapped-in-a-hellish-flying-box" kind of situations. It's a gripping, complex and thought-provoking book that does not get bogged down in obtuse situational plot devices.

While this may not ever become a classic of sci-fi, it is well worth the effort if you've been looking for something to read. This is definitely above the pack of recent sci-fi offerings and should catch your attention for some relaxing hours of speculation on how you would use your own personal wormhole.


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  • Its funny, because I distinctly remember reading a short story in 1988 (which was written in the '70s) about this very same topic. Shall I share:

    An inventor had developed a viewing-machine that let the user look into the past, by tracing tachyons or some residual radiation, etc etc, the idea being that they could tune the machine to ancient Rome and learn what actually happened at these events that modern history had blurred (because he was being funded by some museum). It also talked a bit about how he was forced to add filters on behalf of the Catholic Church, such that the device could never look at year 0 and verify (or disprove) the existance of Christ. But at the end of the story, the scientist is visited by the NSA, who try to sieze all of his work...

    but the hero has outsmarted them, because in an Open Source fashion, he had mailed a copy of the plans to all of the major newspapers the day before. Then the government employee explains to him how his device could not only look on the far past, but at the near, 1 second ago past, and he was personally responsible for inventing the ultimate scrying device.

    As to the blurb, I'm sure that you've all ready Harlequin and the Tick Tock Man? If not, why not?

  • There is also a Damon Knight story called "I See You" that was nominated for a Hugo in 1977. I've often thought that neither Asimov nor Knight really explored the ramifications fully.

    Almost all crime would disappear. Would people embrace the lack of privacy or try to get the machines controlled. Of course dictators would try to control it and it would be a powerful tool for them, but they try to hide their own actions and lie about them, so as long as people are watching from free countries, it would seem to eventually lead to freedom everywhere (I think).

    Would it hurt research for companies to know their competitors could spy on them? Of course, it would also make it easy for them to prove their competitors spied on them?

    Would people become more puritanical, would life become like it is in a small town (only more so)? Or would people learn to accept the petty perversions and infidelities that we now hide?

    Unlike time travel stories, there's at least no logical contradictions to viewing the past.

  • by Orne ( 144925 )
    That'll learn me for walking away without hitting submit... by the time I got back, my story had been posted 3 times =)
  • Well, the Clarke/Baxter novel is dedicated to Bob Shaw, who wrote the "slow glass" story "Light of Other Days." So I think it's a good bet that the authors were conscious of the similarity in titles between their novel and Shaw's story. Both works derive their titles from a poem by Robert Herrick.
  • There was also an old Heinlein short story on this theme, or actually about someone
    inventing a past-time viewing machine and then realizing that it could also
    be used to spy on anyone (since "1 second ago" is also in the past).
    Don't remember the name of the story offhand...
  • Card's book focuses on a controlled version of this type of viewing technology. I believe where only historians (and the government) are able to view the past. He also incorporates the theories of time travel regarding changes to the past causing all points thereafter to cease/diverge. Definitely a good read, portions of it could make a good preface to the storyline of "Light of Other Days."
  • The short story "Light of Other Days" by Bob Shaw appeared in a book "Other Days, Other Eyes". "Light of Other Days" was just a short interlude showing a slow glass farmer using the glass to remember his dead family. "Other Days, Other Eyes" told the full story of the development of slow glass, the way society was changed by it, and its eventual use for spying on the citizens.
  • Another part of the story was that the one scientist had accidentally killed his daughter in a "careless smoking" accident. His wife obsessed over the daughter, never knowing it was the husband who accidentally burned down the house... and he dreaded the release of the product, knowing his wife would one day re-live the daughter's life right up to the moment she died... and learn why.
  • by BigBlockMopar ( 191202 ) on Friday July 21, 2000 @11:02AM (#915338) Homepage

    Quoted from Article:

    When your neighbors could buy a machine that allows them to watch you shagging your girlfriend if they wanted to?

    Well, almost.

    Just remember that not only the FBI but also most cable companies already have the ability to drive past your house and see what's on your TV screen.

    The tuner in your TV, VCR or cable box is superheterodyne, meaning it mixes a local oscillator with the incoming signal. The frequency of the local oscillator, when it's at the same frequency as a particular TV channel that you want to watch, produces a beat signal that is amplified by the electronics of the device.

    Superhet is a great system, and that's why it's in virtually everything that receives RF. (I wonder if RCA still gets royalties on the patent?)

    But, the signal of the local oscillator does leak out of the tuner, and if you look for it and measure its frequency, you know what the TV is tuned to.

    ie. "That's very interesting. The house at 15 Robin Hood Lane has a TV set tuned to HBO, but they don't pay for HBO..."

    When the cable guy rings your doorbell to do an unexpected "signal check", never let him in. If you're a cable thief, that is.

    But that's not the only thing your TV set spits out. All conventional TV sets and monitors have very powerful circuits for deflecting the electron beams in the picture tube. They radiate a lot of electromagnetic energy. Now, the jury's still out on whether or not they cause any health effects, but I can promise you that they're very easy to detect.

    Use the deflection signals from a TV set or monitor to point your antenna directly at it and sync your receiver to it.

    Then, all you'd need to do is amplify the everything you're picking up in the 150kHz to 5MHz range, and use it to drive a CRT.

    All of a sudden, the van parked in front of your house can see the creative accounting processes you use to keep your business afloat, as you type innocently away at your computer. Or they can see from your TV what kind of kinky movies you like. Etc.

    Of course, you could wrap everything electronic in your house with aluminum foil connected to a cold water pipe or other suitable ground, but it detracts a little from their safety, working life and usefulness.

    Privacy doesn't exist, hasn't for years, and that says nothing of cellular/cordless phones. Or listening devices that any ambitious high school kid can build with a laser pointer and a tripod, devices that can be positioned miles away from you and yet use your windows as listening devices. Nothing.

  • >Some day we'll all know how big everyone's dick >is, how many times they take a shit, and what The real question is, why would would anyone want to know that! Let's face it....we're probably not all that exciting
  • He is quite old and looking very frail. It wouldn't surprise me at all, actually. I read one book with his name on it (something about an earthquake IIRC) and he virtually admitted as much in thr foreword - he came up with the idea, or edited it or something. (the book was arse BTW). Wasn't the last thing he wrote on his own (not co-authored) 3001? I don't think it was a coincidence that it was about a third the length of the prequels.

  • ...was that, with the technology described in this novel, we'd finally find out for sure who assassinated John F. Kennedy.
  • Can't remember the name of it or even the author, but it's an interesting concept. Basically there have been these "alien" signals picked up for the last 20 years, repeating same time every day, with a different "image" on each one. They finally stop, one person puts the puzzle together and they build this machine that allows them to view the world in the 4th dimension. The authors take on the 4th dimension was kind of an "overmind" which could be used to view all peoples thoughts/memories etc. The aliens that have been broadcasting this message have also been travelling towards earth the entire time and they finally get here, the 2 overminds from the different planets finally touch and everybody on the world experiences true empathy.

    You're thinking of Factoring Humanity, by Robert Sawyer. It's a good book, particularly in the way he ties together such apparently unrelated fields as topology, quantum physics, and psychology.

    The crypto fans on Slashdot will be amused by the subplot, wherein the protagonist's husband, a computer scientist, invents a quantum computer capable of easily performimg prime factorizations of large numbers, and thus breaking most of the world's cryptographic capability. He starts to get visits from mysterious characters who want to sequester the work.

  • A few things now adays qualify for automatic buys for me (regardless of reviews). Clarke and Assimov books, Blizzard games, and the first coffee I see in the morning. But even if I might not enjoy this as much as I do some of his other books I think this might be the "Brave New World" of 2000 as it seems that privacy is our main fear (for us geeks anyway). I assume it is well written and I will buy it probably this afternoon and download the Book on Tape from napster :)
  • The Dead Past
    First Published In: Astounding Science Fiction, April 1956, pp. 6-46
    Collections:
    Earth Is Room Enough
    The Best of Isaac Asimov
    The Far Ends of Time and Earth (omnibus edition)
    The Edge Of Tomorrow
    The Best Science Fiction of Isaac Asimov
    Other Worlds of Isaac Asimov
    The Complete Stories, Volume 1
    Anthologies:
    Five-Odd, Groff Conklin, ed. Pyramid (pbk), 1964, pp. 8-54
    Beyond Control, Robert Silverberg, ed. Thomas Nelson, 1972, pp. 162-219
    The Arbor House Treasury of Great Science Fiction Short Novels, Robert Silverberg and Martin H. Greenberg, eds. Arbor House, 1980, pp. 302-345
    The Analog Anthology #1, Stanley Schmidt, ed. Davis Publications, 1981, pp. 187-260
    6 Decades: The Best of Analog, Stanley Schmidt, ed. Davis Publications, 1986, pp. 35-67
    Worlds Imagined: 14 Short Science Fiction Novels, Robert Silverberg and Martin H. Greenberg, eds. Avenel, 1989, pp. 302-345
    The World Treasury of Science Fiction, David G. Hartwell and Clifton Fadiman, eds. Little Brown, 1989, pp. 503-543
    Foreign Anthologies:
    Kroki W Nie-Zname, Warsaw: Iskry, 1970

    Good story. He used a different concept, that of neutrinos traveling forward in time could be read somehow.. Kinda nifty idea, anyway.

    There was also a subplot going on about how knowledge had become so compartmentalized that nobody dared think outside their realm of expertise, as it were. It's a bit long for a short story though and tends to ramble, a lot like Asimov. :)

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  • I was hoping to make the same comment that you did, only I couldn't remember the story name or the author... looks like you got both right ;-)
  • If my memory is any good, Asimov wrote a story called "The Dead past", which covered this subject fairly well.
  • At first I thought this was a review of a collection of Bob Shaw's (I think)"slow glass" stories, the first of which was "Light of Other Days" (written sometime in the mid 1960s).

    Slow glass was a material that transmitted images (like glass) very, very slowly -- up to several years in some cases, but it could be manufactured with varying time thicknesses (eg "24 hours thick", or "2 years thick"). (Ignore for the sake of the story the physics problems of storing a few years worth of, say, sunlight in a material a few millimeters thick.)

    In a later story (I forget the title) it turns out that the government is sowing the countryside with little beads of (differing time) slow-glass: a spying mechanism where you just collect up the glass beads later and look at what went on.

    Slow glass itself is probably a physical impossibility, but the ubiquitous spying is not: imagine billions of nano-cams with varying amounts of storage, or some sort of cellular wireless communication. You could (well, almost -- as far as we know the state-of-the-art is not quite there) make them the size of ants, with sufficient ant-like AI to let them crawl around. Perhaps they relay their images to a "queen ant" with a little more processing ability and broadcast range. Optical quality per image might be low (given the tiny optics), but combining multiple images gets around that, you could even get good 3-D images with multiple sensors and good position information (a couple of pairs of queen ants could triangulate that).

    A lot more likely than magic wormholes, they just don't give you a record any further back than their deployment.
  • Replying to my own post, I've found a web page [sff.net] with a list of stories on this theme.
  • With that kinda bandwidth who cares who sees what they're doing? :)

    mmm, downloading theater-quality movies from Hotline, yum....

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  • But hang on space fans. While society is still reeling from this total loss of privacy, the company with the wormhole patent discovers that by adjusting its strnegth, you can actually watch things from the past as they happen. Eventually they work out sound and navigation, so you can in essence watch any point in history from any angle as many times as you want.

    So what happens when you get tired of watching N*t*l** P*rtm*n from fertilized ovum onward?

  • by John Jorsett ( 171560 ) on Friday July 21, 2000 @08:03AM (#915351)
    I thought that the central premise of "Light of Other Days" was that scientists had developed "slow glass" which let light through at such slow speeds that past events could be observed hours, days, or even months later. I read it in installments in Analog Science Fiction. The last installment I read had the government grinding up slow glass into dust-mote size particles and spreading it everywhere by aircraft. The idea being that it would be ubiqutious and, using microscopy, any past event could be observed. This story line sounds completely different. Has the title been recycled?
  • Another take on this..
    Can't remember the name of it or even the author, but it's an interesting concept. Basically there have been these "alien" signals picked up for the last 20 years, repeating same time every day, with a different "image" on each one. They finally stop, one person puts the puzzle together and they build this machine that allows them to view the world in the 4th dimension. The authors take on the 4th dimension was kind of an "overmind" which could be used to view all peoples thoughts/memories etc. The aliens that have been broadcasting this message have also been travelling towards earth the entire time and they finally get here, the 2 overminds from the different planets finally touch and everybody on the world experiences true empathy.

    Very interesting read.. I wish I could remember the authors name
  • Memory is more of a negotiation between the brain and the psyche than any sort of reliable record.

    Timothy, I don't usually agree with your viewpoint on most Slashdot stories, but I have to say this is one of the most revealing quote I've read in a long time. Thanks.
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  • Thank you.

    I wanted to post something along these lines too.

    In my opinion, too many sci-fi authors delved headlong into the "science" behind the story (in fact just making possible conjecture related to "what we know" and in no way enhancing the story at all) and forget about the "people" in the story, or the story itself. Why complain when an author attempts to make a story a little more real by attaching a personality to the characters? If you want a dry science read, go pick up a science book. But for a sci-fi story, you don't need to know every detail of every possible scientific explaination for each situation presented. You need a good story, and an explaination of that story from human perspective. Like it or not, a big part of human life is about human interaction: relationships.

    For a prime example of solid sci-fi (sometimes called space opera) look at the Hyperion/Endymion books by Dan Simmons. He gave very few scientific details, but makes you just *beg* for more. The whole thing is based on how personal relationships affect the outcome of the entire fate of humanity. That's good sci-fi. That's a good story.
  • There is no doubt that advanced technology developed by any civilization will eventually be what destroys it. In our society where we value our privacy so much, it will be the technology that destroys it.

    Allow me to be anal about the above statement:

    I fully agree that at some point in the future, there may be a technology that will render privacy an obsolete notion, which will bring our Western society as we know it crashing down on it knees, never to return.

    However, I'd like to draw a distinction between the destruction of "society" and of "humankind". Privacy going the way of the dodo will greatly affect North America and Europe - generally, the Developed worlds. However, it won't make a lick of difference to those squatting behind bushes waiting to club a rabbit or toiling away in rice paddies or herding sheep on a mountainside. Their society may change due to ours collapsing, but it won't be destroyed.

    And as sad and fragile a species as we've become, we'll prevail. A lot of people might die while our societal paradigm changes, but homo sapiens will remain firmly glued to the face of this planet, and we'll continue on as best we know how.

    My $0.005. (Government took the rest...)

  • Yup - it was a Bob Shaw short story, and the full slow glass set did develop the theme of snooping on people. The last story in the timeline end with a "no privacy" scenario with dust size bits of slow glass scattered about, servering in effect as microscopic video recoders.

    I wonder if that had any impact on the title choice of this book.

  • True, however it brings up the delimma of 'who will watch the watchmen.' In Larry Lessig's book, "Code and Other Laws of Cyberspace", he immediately quotes Dilbert's Guide to the Future: "[In the future, technology will prove 100% of the crimes, unfortunately it will also prove that 100% of us are criminals]". And Brin makes the point that we can either ALL have the technology to watch EVERYONE, including military leaders and politicians. Or we can let the leaders have it and just pretend that it doesn't exist.

    So yes, in countries where only the government has the technology, they could use it to oppress. Just like guns. But what if everyone had it? Perhaps it is just a translation of the second amendment.

    Perhaps some countries would expend massive amounts of military force to tightly control this technology (like China's media), but I doubt that could happen in America. Our citizenry is too armed and edgy and suspicious (and based more on $$$, not moral/ethical values). I think it would be hard to supress any sizeable sect in america. Even though secession is against federal law, if the Freemen or the Davidians had numbers in the millions, they wouldn't have lost to the Feds.

    IMHO, I don't think the resolution of conflict in which all sides are armed with the same technology would be a "...a rather oppressive State with a large percentage of the population in jail..." as you put it.

    I think there would be too much public sentiment in favor of this technology, and hopefully the muscle of the governement (the actual soldiers) would share the same.


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  • Ah - but total knowledge of what others are doing has effects beyond simple body modesty

    Are you cheating on your SOs? Embezzling? Consuming illegal substances (booze in the Middle East, Khat in the US) ? Praying to the wrong Ghods? Writing agaisnt the government?

    Somewhere in the world one or more of those activies would get you into deep trouble. A fully transparent society would seem to lead either to a rather oppressive State with a large percentage of the population in jail or worse, or a small-l libratarian condition where most activities are OK.

    In either case expect struggles, if not out and out warfare. Most people have certain activities that they can not tolerate other people doing.

  • Yes, I've heard of similar technology that allows the NSA to spy not only on television sets or monitors, but any electromagnetic emission such as what comes out of a CPU as it's working. This used to be called TEMPEST (transient electromagnetic pulse surveillance technology, or something along those lines), but is now referred to as EMSec (electromagnetic security). There's a guy called Ross Anderson [cam.ac.uk] who has an interesting article [cam.ac.uk] on how this works and how to defend against it. I'm not a physicist, but as far as I understand the only way to truly prevent someone from remotely eavesdropping on your computer is to build something called a faraday cage around your computer, which is a pretty hard thing to do. Worse, the technology to perform tempest-style eavesdropping is becoming cheaper and more available all the time. This is the ultimate form of spying because it is non-intrusive (i.e. no more sneaking into your target's office or place of residence to plant a microphone or camera, which may be discovered). As such, it is impossible to know if someone is spying on you. The transmission range of the average home computer is (apparently) up to one or two miles in good conditions. Scary stuff.
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  • I am no RF expert, however I am a liscensed Amateur Radio operator. It's true that a Faraday cage would prevent much of the signal leakage, and one could even build on inside the casing. However the best way is to use active signal jamming, using a small transmitter of similar but slightly larger power, putting out random information signals on the same frequency as the computer or other device which is leaking information. Although the FBI no doubt has the signal processing capability to cut through the interference, if they really cared, I doubt your paranoid freaked out neihbor will have any thing sophisticated enough to discrimiate between the two RF sources. I'm not sure how one could possibly tap information from the weak signals coming from the microprossor, that sounds nearly impossible, but your CRT monitor just screams out for someone to tap into it. It's not the redirection of the electron beam which is detectable (if you detect that you might be able to tell their monitor resolution and refresh rate, but that's all) but the modulation of the beam strength that causes different colors to be displayed. Using an LCD screen should eliminate much of the RF leakage, and one can easily construct an active jammer to work at the same frequency as your monitor, at low enough power levels to be unnoticed by the FCC. Or you can just have two similar monitors in the same area, one displaying good stuff, one displaying garbage that's constantly changing, and that can at least make it much more challenging to tap into.
  • Interesting ideas. However, I don't believe that your suggestion of putting two similar monitors next to each other would make any difference. Again, I am not a physicist, but while reading up on this technology I read that each monitor has its own particular frequency, and in fact you can have two monitors of identical make and model sitting next to each other, and it is still possible to clearly delineate between the two using tempest technology, because of minor variations in components that are introduced in the manufacturing process (i.e. no two monitors are *exactly* alike).

    > I'm not sure how one could possibly
    > tap information from the weak signals
    > coming from the microprocessor, that
    > sounds nearly impossible, ...

    Actually, I have read somewhere that it is not only possible to do this, but it is possible to write a virus which, when run on the target machine, could use emanations from the cpu to transmit a message (say, a file on the hard drive) to a listening antenna by making the cpu perform certain instructions. The victim, of course, would have absolutely no way of knowing that any information had actually left the machine (i.e. a network monitor wouldn't even blink at this, because the data isn't going out over any conventional network connection). Incredibly interesting concept, I'd love to know if anyone has ever actually pulled this off. The closest I've seen in real life is one web site (I don't have the exact url but I'm pretty sure it was one of the links on this page [eskimo.com]) where this guy had written a program to demonstrate this, and had hooked up an antenna to a microphone, recorded the morse-code style sounds coming from the cpu, and put the sound files up for people to download and listen to. The transmission rate was obviously pretty crappy (we're talking a few bits per second at most), but given enough time and effort, it would be very interesting to see what might come out of that kind of research.


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  • What would you do in a world where privacy is non-existent, and certainty absolute.
    Try to find fiji.
    a'la The Truman Show

  • This story sounds like the sequel to an excellent story by Isaac Asimov entitled, "The Dead Past" about a history professor who, with the aid of a physicist, builds a chronoscope, a device to see into the past in order to research Carthage, only to find out that it can only see up to 150 years in the past and that all supposed finds with the chronoscope were false!
    In the end, the government tracks them down and explains to them that the past is not way back when, so many years ago as people are supposed to think, but NOW! The past can also be set for seconds! The present is always becoming the past! But alas, the physicist's Uncle Ralph, a science writer, has forwarded instructions for pocket chronoscopes to several magazines. The world is doomed.
    "Happy goldfish bowl to you all," said (government guy's name), "and may you all burn in hell forever."
  • Well, at least we'd be able to find out if RMS actually said this...
  • Uhm... No, the older story I remember with a similar concept is by Henry Kuttner:"The eye", don't know where it was first pubblished but it is in the anthology "Ahead of Time" (1953?).
  • Again, I am not a physicist, but while reading up on this technology I read that each monitor has its own particular frequency, and in fact you can have two monitors of identical make and model sitting next to each other, and it is still possible to clearly delineate between the two using tempest technology, because of minor variations in components that are introduced in the manufacturing process (i.e. no two monitors are *exactly* alike).

    Well, no two cars are exactly alike either. But that doesn't stop the same police radar gun from reading their speed.

    The signals that someone would be intercepting would be generated by the host computer, not by the monitor. It's just that the monitor is a very convenient transmitting antenna for everything that leaves your VGA port.

    Your deflection circuits would provide a really strong signal to help point a directional antenna, and they'd also provide you with sync information (top of frame, horizontal and vertical reset, refresh rates, etc.) that you can use later on once you've captured the video.

    Once you've used the H and V circuits as a good signal with which to point your antenna, you can rest assured that the video signal that your VGA port puts out is amplified quite a bit (from about 1V p~p to about 90V p~p) within your monitor. The cathode drive voltage on most monitors is about 90V. Given the frequencies involved for high res VGA video (ie. leading and trailing edges of a sharp vertical line on the screen), for good bandwidth, everything would have to be pretty low impedance to minimize the effects of stray capacitance in the video driver stages. Which makes the basics for a very good radio transmitter.

    Now, in response to the post to which I'm responding, I'm sure similar models will radiate the RF with similar efficiency. But two dissimilar models side by side will probably be somewhat different in their behavior.

    Your motherboard, too, is a pretty damned good transmitter, but to actually be able to make sense of the sheer noise coming off my spectrum analyzer when I point the antenna near my old Pentium 166MMX, I can't say. But the information is all there, with the change of state of every line on the address, data, control, MFM, IDE, etc. buses, a nice spike of RF energy is transmitted.

    I can clearly make out my 66MHz processor bus (sorry, guys, it's not overclocked) on the spectrum analyzer; I can clearly make out my 166MHz clock, I can clearly make out a 7.8MHz pulsetrain that I assume to be my ISA bus, and I can see a spike at 33MHz that I assume is either my PCI bus or is the base oscillator that is clock-doubled to make my 66MHz bus.

    I'm reminded at this point that I damned well need a new computer, but between my low pay, high taxes and high rent, I can't seem to afford it. Anybody want to hire a self-professed video guru and computer geek? Assets include a warped sense of humor...

  • You know, that actually wouldn't surprise me.

    It's probably a temporal bug in Perl 6.006_065; it's been a known bug ever since the slashdot rabbit holes were created, and a post from Signul_94956 (#473457) got sent through...
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  • Incidentally, won't that stop people from modding it *down* as well?

    ...and if the code is in Perl, maybe he'll just overflow a floating-point number, or force it into scientific notation...

    Of course, by 2003, we'll have perl scripts identify the topic, and replay the top posts from 6 months ago. "Karma Whore Bots", if you will.

    ...and this wormhole device might be the only way to accurately look at old Slashdot postings, since they'd all be eaten by the database by then.
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  • "While this does create an impression of confusion that is appropriate to the central themes of the book, it is also distracting at points in the story."

    This seems to be a favored tactic of Clarke. Some of Stanley Kubrik's vagueness must have rubbed off on him. ;)

    kick some CAD [cadfu.com]
  • No, no, no; not that post; THIS POST.

    Read my sig, you stupid motherfucker.
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  • You know that at least part of the book will be satisfying to anyoen. While I've found stories with his name that are just crap, there's always been a section in every one that I can relate to.

    Perhaps the most interesting thing is that usually Clarke runs just a little ahead of the trend: IE Released 2001 before it was possible, stuff like that. This time though, he's released it when it's immediately relevant. I wonder why??
  • With that kinda bandwidth who cares who sees what they're doing? :)
  • Isaac Asimov wrote a story based on a similar concept a number of years (decades?) ago. IIRC, the title was "The Dead Past".

    Interestingly, the technology in Asimov's story developed the other way-- devices were created to view historical events, but were tremendously expensive, and tightly controlled by the government. A pair of maverick scientists discover that they can produce a working model from available parts, and release the plans to the world.

    Unfortunately for society, it's only then, once it's too late, that they realize that the devices can also be used to view the past so recent, it's for all practical purposes the same as the present. All though the story ends before the social effects can become known, the implication is that this will cripple society.
  • Actually, they are not two maverick scientists and there is more to the story than that.

    The older guy of the two is a historian who wants to study Sparta (IIRC) and the younger guy is a newly appointed physics professor. They create a working model and pass it on to the younger guys uncle who is a professional grant writer.

    More than the social effects of the said machine which was only implied with an "Oh sh*t" in the end (sort of), I was intrigued by the professional classes. People were experts in only one field of science and not allowed to explore any other field but their own. IIRC, the young scientist was an gravity expert and the historian convinces him to study light.

    The reason the machine did not work was because looking back in time is like looking into water, the deeper you want to see, the dimmer your vision becomes. Too much dust (figurative) was the explanation.

  • There is no doubt that advanced technology developed by any civilization will eventually be what destroys it. In our society where we value our privacy so much, it will be the technology that destroys it. Face it, in our society, money drives all. We can't stop privacy from being taken away -- we can only delay such!

  • Feel free, dude!

    Actually, I have a page [ncsu.edu] or two there about that... To get the full effect, follow the link, too!
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  • by Anonymous Coward
    In a book like this, where the author is dealing with what happens when such a horrible technology is released, relationships matter very much. Just as Contact would be just another alien book without the relationships in it, which shaped it. It's a strength of an author to delve into personal realationships instead of dealing with the technology, especially when the technology is so far off that no one could possibly understand it now. IMHO that makes a book better. No win a book like Cryptonimicon, Stephenson has the option to explain the technologies, because they EXIST(most of them, that is).
  • "Cliff Lampe sheds light today on a book..."

    I kinda find this ironic...was this choice of words intentional? :P

    Just wondering...
    Kyle Johnson
  • A few things now adays qualify for automatic buys for me (regardless of reviews).

    Clarke used to be an auto buy for me, but Songs of Distant Earth was the last one I liked. IMO, he went downhill really fast after that. (There's a rumor that he didn't actually write anything after that. Not that I pay much attention to rumors, but I'd almost prefer to believe that one.)

  • by Denor ( 89982 ) <denor@yahoo.com> on Friday July 21, 2000 @07:58AM (#915381) Homepage
    Cliff Lampe sheds light today on a book that he actually reviewed in the year 2003
    And, I distinctly recalled, I commented on that review too. Only it got moderated down for mentioning "hot grits".

    Ah well, maybe I'll be luckier next time the 'Retro Slashdot' wave hits in 2007. I'd love to flame Microsoft again!

  • This is a great book w.r.t. combining technologies in creative ways. I mean, the wormhole starts as purely spacial in nature and is privately held. Then it becomes public domain just as they discover temporal placement, which eventually becomes public domain. But the coolest part of the book was the journey back in time following the mitochondrial DNA using AI recognition software. Excellent engineering twist.

    I think the attempt at predicting the effect on pop culture was also worthy of a gold star. I loved the avant-garde beatnicks who lived naked in houses made of glass, as a blantant cultural metaphor. Same goes for the naked teenagers having sex everywhere.

    The borg-like brain implants were kinda pushing it. I think such a small faction of paranoid people will exist that there wouldn't be enough funding to mass-market the inviso-suits. However, they would definitely be in the best interest of governments wanting to hide their spies, which would mean the suits would exist. But despite the availability of technology, the writer went through GREAT pains to cover every possible detail of how suit wearers would need to behave to avoid dropping DNA or being tracked. That was cool.

    Read "The Transparent Society" by Brin. It reads more like a bunch of lectures than a discourse, but it covers many of the same concepts.

    I'm firmly believe that in the future there will absolutely ZERO privacy: everyone will know everyting about everyone else. The challenge will be for all cultures to start ditching their modesty.

    Some day we'll all know how big everyone's dick is, how many times they take a shit, and what kind of breakfast cereals they buy. Once a few decades of this kind of knowledge sinks in, modesty in these areas will seem as silly as being modest about showing your calves in a swimsuit, like in the 1910's.


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  • Theodore Sturgeon also wrote a short story along this vein, called "I See You." The results to society were exactly as the last paragraph of Sebastopol's posting described. In Sturgeon's story, the invention was immediately released to the public domain anonymously ... the inventor used two mailing labels, one obscuring the other, with special glue so that the one on top would fall off during transit. He was able to conceal his identity until he was safely dead ...
  • A bit on the loose side. But thanks anyway.
  • Orson Scott Card (of 'Enders Game' fame) wrote a book about this as well. It is called 'Pastwatch: the Redemption of Christopher Columbus.' It deals more with the implications of when studying history we find out that it has been changed from a future that no longer exists. Card makes this more interesting by going into why they changed it, and why it might need to be changed again.
    A good book worth a read.

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