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Help Test Exciting All-New Slashdot "Banjo" 224

Posted by CmdrTaco from the more-then-just-a-sea-monkey dept.
After far too long in development, Slashdot is ready to move to the latest version of Slashcode. To this end, we really need people to test our development box, aka Banjo. This is not a load test, so please don't beat the crap out of it (yet!). Please read comments, post comments, and test out wacky new features like Journaling and the assorted new messaging options. It is mostly identical but there are several cool surprises. We have many optimizations still to add, and only have a fraction of our "real" hardware on Banjo so don't worry about speed, instead look for things that don't work right (or at all!) and send those bug reports. (Known issues: imported comments are misattributed, and comment searching is disabled. Don't report these things please ;))
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  • It says my Karma's 64! I like it.
  • this is to see if I have found a bug.

  • Circular... (Score:5, Funny)

    by AdamInParadise ( 257888 ) on Friday August 03, 2001 @01:44PM (#2158785) Homepage
    Slashdot is Slashdotted by Slash-users from Slashdot...

  • For me at least... (Score:1, Redundant)

    by Judg3 ( 88435 )
    It seems banjo got /.'ed.
  • And here I thought that every URL passed to Slashdot was begging for a stress test!

  • Load test??? (Score:2, Funny)

    by ivan37 ( 149147 )
    This is not a load test, so please don't beat the crap out of it (yet!)

    I don't know what you consider a load test, but I think posting a site on Slashdot is about the best load test you can get!

    • I don't know what you consider a load test, but I think posting a site on Slashdot is about the best load test you can get!

      to the point that it can be imposible to tell a hard slashdotting (yeah gimme it you slash geeks, right where it hurts) from a dos attack.
  • Well, if the new code is what's killing our ability to post today, I would say it needs a little work. I've been having issues all afternoon with Slashdot.

    And no load testing?!? Dear Lord man! This is slashdot, home of the infamous /.'ing DoS web attack! Of course it's going to get load tested.

    P.S. I also do not recommend letting Katz post a story right before releasing new code to your site. There's no better way to 'load balance test' than that...

    • Come on, its more of a DDoS attack.
    • P.S. I also do not recommend letting Katz post a story right before releasing new code to your site. There's no better way to 'load balance test' than that...

      Better yet, post *only* Katz to the site, and voila! End of /.'ing!

    • Re:Not trying to troll (Score:5, Funny)

      by drc500free ( 472728 ) on Friday August 03, 2001 @04:33PM (#2159861)
      I like the new layout. Much less cluttered than the old one. I'm having some trouble with the new navigation scheme, though.... where did all of my preferences go?


      The page cannot be displayed
      The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web
      site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need
      to adjust your browser settings.

      Please try the following:

      Click the Refresh button, or try again later.

      If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make
      sure that it is spelled correctly.

      To check your connection settings, click the Tools menu,
      and then click Internet Options. On the Connections
      tab, click Settings. The settings should match those
      provided by your local area network (LAN) administrator or
      Internet service provider (ISP).

      If your Network Administrator has enabled it, Microsoft
      Windows can examine your network and automatically
      discover network connection settings.
      If you would like Windows to try and discover them,
      click Detect Network Settings

      Some sites require 128-bit connection security. Click the
      Help menu and then click About Internet Explorer to
      determine what strength security you have installed.

      If you are trying to reach a secure site, make sure your
      Security settings can support it. Click the Tools menu, and
      then click Internet Options. On the Advanced tab, scroll
      to the Security section and check settings for SSL 2.0, SSL
      3.0, TLS 1.0, PCT 1.0.

      Click the Back button to try another link.


      Cannot find server or DNS Error
      Internet Explorer

  • You know, you'd think they'd know better than to post a "please don't break it" story.

    That's like telling a kid not to do something. They're gonna do it just because you didn't want them to!

    And you've been with Slashdot for how long?!
  • ...there's a reason why "beta tests" are limited to a certain number of users.

    I think you just found out why.

    Would this be more like a "gamma test"?

  • Feature suggestion (Score:5, Interesting)

    by macdaddy ( 38372 ) on Friday August 03, 2001 @01:53PM (#2158857) Homepage Journal
    I had a brilliant idea, in wake of the /.ing of Banjo. Could you consider adding a way to randomly send a message to registered users, similar to the random way you're picked for moderating and what not. It could be text at the top like the moderating text with a link to Banjo. It could be a pop-up, although I don't think that would go over well. It could possibly be a small graphic in a sidebar too. Having the ability to control how many users get to see it overall as well as deciding it the user must be logged in or AC would be excellent as well. A feature like that could quite possibly help with things such as beta testing new /. code. My $.02 worth of ideas for the day.

  • Too many teeth (Score:3, Offtopic)

    by HerrGlock ( 141750 ) on Friday August 03, 2001 @01:54PM (#2158860) Homepage
    It says I have too many teeth to play a banjo, whatever could that mean?

    DanH
  • SlashGod: You can only look at the delicious Tree of Banjo, but thou Must Not Slashdot it!

    MSerpent: Psst.... Go Ahead, Taco will never know, just a couple af hits will never make a difference....

    user DamAntEEV: Just one Bite, he;ll never know...
    SlashGod: Gotcha! trying to /. my Tree Of Banjo! get ye East Of Slashdot the the Land Of No Karma!

  • to coin a new phrase... (Score:4, Funny)

    by cr@ckwhore ( 165454 ) on Friday August 03, 2001 @01:56PM (#2158872) Homepage
    Can we now say that banjo got "banjoed"?

  • Try slashcode.com (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Mike Schiraldi ( 18296 ) on Friday August 03, 2001 @02:00PM (#2158900) Homepage Journal
    Looks like slashcode.com [slashcode.com] uses the new version. I could be wrong, though it seems to have something called "Journals". Okay, i'm off to go check it out, before people read my comment and /. slashcode.com too.

  • Man, this really sucks! (Score:3, Redundant)

    by tswinzig ( 210999 ) on Friday August 03, 2001 @02:01PM (#2158907) Journal
    It's dog slow, the imported comments are misattributed, and comment searching is disabled! What were you guys thinking!?

    (Just kidding, it looks great so far.)

  • It sucks! (Score:1, Funny)

    by ShoeHead ( 40158 )
    All this blather and discussion about nothing at all, the color scheme makes me want to puke and... wait... What? That's not a new feature?

  • Annoying twangy sound (Score:5, Funny)

    by Dr. A. van Code ( 143149 ) <d_r_conrad@@@yahoo...com> on Friday August 03, 2001 @02:05PM (#2158937) Homepage
    You could implement primitive load balancing by creating banjo2.slashdot.org, but that one would also quickly get /.ed, and then we'd have...

    Dueling Banjos!!!

    (Hmm. New Slashcode? Could Slashdot *get* any better??)

    • Re:Annoying twangy sound (Score:4, Funny)

      by sandidge ( 150265 ) on Friday August 03, 2001 @03:16PM (#2159406)
      How can it get any better?

      nojonkatz.slashdot.org

      ;)

      • nojonkatz.slashdot.org

        That's easy enough. Just go to your user page, select Customize Homepage, and click the box next to JonKatz in Exclude Stories from Home Page subcategory Authors. It's the only thing I have checked, and my Slashdot experience has been better ever since.

    • Take 'em right off. Get up, boy. I bet you can squeal. I bet you can squeal like a pig. C'mon boy, squeal like a pig. C'mon, squeal!

      In case you were wondering, the Dueling Banjos is the theme song of Deliverance [imdb.com], and the quote above is from the scene where the hicks rape Ned Beatty.

      Ever wonder why CmdrTaco and his ilk are always taking about being pantless? Now you know.

  • Bug report: (Score:4, Funny)

    by Tom7 ( 102298 ) on Friday August 03, 2001 @02:09PM (#2158959) Homepage Journal


    it doesnt go

  • Shame on you cmdrtaco. User testing on your development boxes, turn in your geek license.
  • Those Meta Moderation results I got from Banjo, a couple days back.

    Gee, I hope you guys have a way to send notes to that Anonymous Coward, I think he/she needs to take a break, they sure do post a lot!

  • A quick list of bugs I have found (Score:3, Funny)

    by Lac ( 135355 ) on Friday August 03, 2001 @02:14PM (#2159010)

    Ok. I have only played around for a while, but please try to fix this for the next version.

    • It looks cluttered.
    • The HTML is unreadable.
    • The comments are worse.

    And thanks again for the great work!

    (wink wink)

  • Load balancer is fubar (Score:4, Informative)

    by krow ( 129804 ) <brian@@@tangent...org> on Friday August 03, 2001 @02:19PM (#2159035) Homepage Journal
    The arrowpoint is being "adjusted" at the moment, so yeah, the site is fucked till that is done. Nice to see that it doesn't crash despite being completey swamped with connections :)
    • I have one of those servers too!! I leave it in my closet and don't run anything on it except the kernel. Despite being SWAMPED with connection attempts it doesn't crash. And just like banjo it returns no content :) AZ
  • It's slashdotted.. does anyone have a mirror?

  • RSS 1.0!! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by hodeleri ( 89647 ) <drbrain@segment7.net> on Friday August 03, 2001 @02:27PM (#2159092) Homepage Journal

    Yeah! Now we can have a Mozilla-native sidebar panel rather than having to go through some kind of gateway RSS->RDF. This will be a big win. I'll have to code one now as an example...

    BTW, RSS1.0 is RDF, not pseudo-RDF like some of the other RDF versions. There's info on dmoz.org, but I'm lazy. Find it yourself.

  • since banjo is slashdotted, has anyone seen whether it still has the unattractive turquoise "look"? google wasnt fast enough to cache it...

    what's the diff between banjo, bender and fry?
    or is banjo just their temp server they are using...

  • Ha! (Score:2)

    by 11223 ( 201561 )
    PING banjo.slashdot.org (64.28.67.73) from ###.###.###.### : 56(84) bytes of data.

    --- banjo.slashdot.org ping statistics ---
    20 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
    • Slashdot has ICMP types 0 (echo reply) and 8 (echo) filtered, I believe, on all of their machines.

      ;)
    • PING banjo.slashdot.org (64.28.67.73)

      I don't know what you're trying to prove there. Their firewall filters out all ping requests to every single host on Slashdot. Go ahead, try to ping www.slashdot.org, see what you get.
  • It looks too much like IE's "The page cannot be displayed" error page to me... where's the navigation? All I have is Refresh, Back, and something about detecting my net settings...

    OTOH, it is a much cleaner interface -- no more Fr1st P0sts and no more green tables!

    Oh, wait... maybe running out of coffee this morning was a bad thing...

    - Jman, with another shameless attempt at humor...
  • Oh my God, the internet is going down. Code Red has struck. SOS.

    Now how will I order books about Internet addiction from the nicest company in the world, Amazon.
  • Slashcode 2.0.0 came out on May 9, 2001. It can be found here [sourceforge.net].
  • ...or is this payback for all the small sites it's DDOSed over the years? ;-)

  • ... I can just see tomorrow's headlines:

    "'Sclusive! Slashdot Slashdots Smaller Slashdot Slashcode Server! Superb!"

    Yeah, so I'm drunk, big deal.

  • Ok banjo is running on the new slashcode/MYSQL/a linux box.
    All self contained?
    The new code adds features, how about scalability, new contributers(coders),comments on the development?
    Is slashdot still running 2.2.x kernels? Is slashcode still dependent on MYSQL?
    When will this version going to be moved to www?

  • Should use (Score:3, Funny)

    by zairius ( 54221 ) on Friday August 03, 2001 @02:57PM (#2159307) Journal
    C and DB2 instead of Perl and MySQL! And hire back some of the C coders VA got rid of.

    *Shameless Attempt to get Cushy Telecommuting Job Back*
  • In further news the latest version of slashcode incorporates an automatting slashdotting plug-in to remove the burden of link-clicking from thousands of loyal viewers...

  • Done. (Score:2, Redundant)

    by DaneelGiskard ( 222145 )
    Yehh..we've just slashdotted slashdot! What's next on the list of eternal objectives? ;-)
  • Will the flag icon for topic=usa get its top stripe back?
  • The link is on the frontpage(tm) of Slashdot! How could it not get the crap kicked out of it???
  • "This is not a load test"

    Of course not, because there is nothing loading to even attempt a test. That's not a good way to start off.
  • No comments available for meta moderation!

    Well thats gotta be a first.

  • A couple of thoughts (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Scoria ( 264473 ) <{slashmail} {at} {initialized.org}> on Friday August 03, 2001 @03:23PM (#2159447) Homepage
    While I respect the Slashdot team for continuing development on the Slashcode and adding new features to it, wouldn't it be more prudent to work on what you've got until it's stable and fast before adding new 'features?'

    Right now, Slashdot is slow-loading (from a 1.5mbps, multi-backboned connection), produces half of a webpage (everything down to the sections bar), and only responds to about half of my HTTP GET requests.

    Anyway, just my worthless $0.02..
  • http://www.htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/validate.cgi?url=h ttp%3A%2F%2Fbanjo.slashdot.org%2F [htmlhelp.com]

    And that's just the errors--the resulting page was huge when I included warnings too.

  • Two words: (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Denial of Service ( 199335 )
    Feature creep. Is there really a need for user messaging and crap like that?
    • Actually, the messaging crap, etc looks pretty harmless, and possibly useful. It lets you get emailed whenever stuff happens to your account - moderations, replies, etc are shown up here, along with what looks like a very cool feature of sending m2 results. The journalling stuff, I think that was just put in there to keep up with the Jones [kuro5hin.org]
  • Will that replace slashdotted in geekspeak? only time will tell.
  • A suggestion, how about mirroring the page linked to in each article(and provide the mirrored link at the end). Even if you only keep it mirrored while it's on the mainpage, that'll still prevent the slashdot effect to some extent by giving people an alternative. I personally would opt to see text-only with broken images when a poor defenseless university server is brought to its knees.
  • Seems to be another new feature of the new /. - it uses a journal filing system rather than a journaling file system. ;)
  • I like Banjo better.

    Slashdot: Karma 12 (mostly the sum of moderation done to users comments).

    Banjo: Karma 31 (mostly the sum of moderation done to users comments).

    :o)
  • My karma is 61. Looks as though it always keeps the last 24 comments in the posting history rather than just expiring them after a period of time.

    I have no idea where the extra 38 karma points came from though.

  • Well, currently I am running XP Professional with IE 6.0 and guess what, it doesn't load. Sorry, it just sits there.
  • So now we'll go BatDotting [slashdot.org] harmless unsuspecting sites?

  • In light mode, the text of each article in the main page just extends horizontally as far as it goes all on one line. I have to use the horizontal scroll bar just to read it. The bug here is that the <NOBR> tag for the menu row is not properly closed. The slash is missing in the closing </NOBR> tag.

    BTW, a <NOBR> tag is a bad idea for that menu for light mode, as it will cause horizontal scrolling for itself.

  • Time machine (Score:2, Funny)

    by RESPAWN ( 153636 )

    You're a moderator with 4 points (expire after 2001-07-20).

    Sweet! One of those "cool surprises" must be a time machine!

  • You can add yourself as your friend.. Oh, and as someone pointed out in a journal, the fact that there's a list of top posters re number of journal enteries will probably lead to a fp-ish contest among the very bored..
  • This is great! Will this now be a permanent feature of Slashdot? =)

  • Bug. (Score:2, Offtopic)

    by Punto ( 100573 )
    I tried to login, but I got a 'wrong password' error on users.pl. I entered the passwod again, and I got this error from users.pl:

    You've reached the maximum number of times you can access users.pl: 123 accesses over 4 hours.

    I waited 2 minutes (maybe it's doing some werid average calculation), and I got that error again (the number of accesses changed to 144, then 148, etc).

  • I think the A string is a little flat. Perhaps it is just auto-adjusted for correct tone when twanging fear through the hills of West Virginia.
  • I've posted 273 comments on slashdot. That's humbling. So why can I only see the last 24?
  • Could we please finally get a user's comment history to include all the comments that the user has posted? Personally, I'd also like an option to make that public info or have it to myself (where the public version would be "the last few weeks" or "the last 10")

    Just having "the last 24 comments" sucks - I like to see what I've posted over the last year or two (or even ever since I started).

    It shouldn't be too difficult, seeing as you've already done it for the story pipeline...
  • How about providing us with a change list Rob? Tell us what features to poke at, so we know where to look. Even if it's just s "new features are listed at www.slashcode.com/foovar".
  • Whew. I've spent too much time on this. Over the past few hours, I have recorded at least 10 bugs in the new code. Some of it is minor display stuff. Others deal with serious things like the complete mistreatment of A HREF and /A.

    The area of the new Slash code with the greatest number of bugs in the Journals. But that is a completely new feature, so I won't entirely bitch.

    And someone just hosed the page numbering code so where you've got pages 0 and 1 on an article (which don't link to the next page). You have to manually modify the "startat" in the URL to get to page #2.

    I wouldn't say that it was ready for a public beta. If the Slash people thought it was, they need a team of good testers to poke holes in this stuff. Lotsa flaws.

    Oh... BTW, things like TROLLTALK and all are gone! But oddly enough, you can still create your own personal SID forum, with a Slash generated number, by using one of the special pages.

    Lots of interesting changes, though.

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