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Slashdot Updates 1057

It's been a long time since I posted an update about Slashdot but a few recent changes warrant me doing it. You should see the OSDN Navbar atop the page now. I don't like it any more then many of you, so if you log in, there is an option to disable it. (Click the 'X', or look in Preferences:Misc) A few more notes follow including the lowdown on subscriptions, formkey bugs, and AC filters.

The formkey bug that was wreaking havoc all weekend was fixed. It was a mistake in seeding rand that was causing a small percentage of users to have problems posting. It wasn't a conspiracy designed to thwart anyone, just you. Man it was a pain in the ass. But it was squashed on Sunday (thank god).

Anonymous Coward filtering is now in place. It's not exactly finished, but it'll do for now. Essentially there is now a user preference that sets all AC posts to -1. This has been a very common user request for some time, so turn it on if you like. It's currently off by default. It's only a baby step: eventually there will be more fine-tuned controls for anonymous posts, as well as comment types. For Example: I'd personally like to assign a -2 penalty on any comment rated 'funny' because most of them frankly just aren't funny at all. But humor is far too subjective to say that the moderation is unfair. Anyway, now everyone can decide for themselves. That should happen in the next few weeks.

Last up, I'm gonna talk a little about advertisements and subscriptions. Slashdot continues to grow: our traffic has increased by like 10% in the last few months, and simply selling the banner ads you see on top of each page isn't going to be enough to keep us afloat if we keep growing. And selling banner ads in 2001 is an awful lot harder then it was in 1999.

The change will be a different ad size on the article page. Currently we have the standard banner size on top of all pages, but soon the article pages will instead have those huge square things that you see on CNet or ZD. I know this will be unpopular with many people, myself included, but when we make the switch, we will also have some sort of subscription system where you can pay a fee to disable them honestly. (No I don't know how much yet!)

Just to shut down the conspiracy theorists, nobody is forcing us to make these changes: The navbar. The new ad formats. The subscription system. I could just say 'No' to changes like these. But Slashdot is now four years old ... and I want it to still be here four years from now. I hope you can understand the expensive reality associated with making this site happen every day for a quarter of a million readers.

Now flame me if you feel it necessary. Get it out of your system.

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  • by dlittled ( 187714 ) on Monday October 22, 2001 @08:00PM (#2463110) Homepage
    ...is 500,000 slashdotters clicking the "off" radio button for the OSDN bar -d
  • by hexx ( 108181 ) on Monday October 22, 2001 @08:04PM (#2463143)

    Last thing.

    Those big mid-page ads on CNET are why I don't go there anymore.

    You better have a good explanation for why you think that slashdot folks are willing to tolerate them.


    You don't have to tolerate them! Taco just said you can buy a subscription and disable them!

    And as unpopular as it is to pay for the things, people work on slashdot so we can all have fun reading it. And they have to make money too (god knows their stock ain't worth shit anymore).

  • by Omerna ( 241397 ) <clbrewer@gmail.com> on Monday October 22, 2001 @08:10PM (#2463195) Homepage
    Every time I click on the X I get logged out... I think they're saying it's the bar or no Slashdot for me. I can take a hint, I'll leave the bar : )
  • Re:shit. (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 22, 2001 @08:11PM (#2463204)
    "Slashdot is 4 years old and I want it here in 4 years." If the fucking traffic has increased 10% then that is just that much more money that you are making.

    I would hate to ever see full sized ads, the banner is bad enough! But a 10% increase does not mean 10% more profit. Quite the opposite actually. That's 10% more strain on your network and equipment, but you'll be lucky if 1% click on the banner ads which is the money maker.
  • by fm6 ( 162816 ) on Monday October 22, 2001 @08:18PM (#2463267) Homepage Journal
    I'd personally like to assign a -2 penalty on any comment rated 'funny' because most of them frankly just aren't funny at all. But humor is far too subjective to say that the moderation is unfair.
    In that case, why is "funny" even a moderation option?

    This is a bad option, even if we all agree as to what you can laugh at. "Funny" is the one excuse you have for modding up a post that's really offtopic or trollbait.

  • ... and most DEFINATELY not anything with the word goat even in it. Not even anything that rhymes with the word goat.

    What, like "bloat" ? Uh-oh, that's almost any article about Microsoft out then...

  • by dimator ( 71399 ) on Monday October 22, 2001 @08:30PM (#2463357) Homepage Journal
    Seriously. If 99.9% of readers turned it the hell off, there was really no point in having it.

  • Funny Posts (Score:5, Funny)

    by CokeBear ( 16811 ) on Monday October 22, 2001 @08:30PM (#2463360) Journal
    Speaking of Funny Posts, I'd like to be able to filter out everything but.
    Sometimes, I just want to read the posts modded "funny"... Slashdot can be the best source of humor anywhere.
    I wish I could filter out all that "Interesting" and "Informative" crap, and make it my own personal humor site.
    Something to brighten my day between issues of TheOnion.
  • by Girf ( 101378 ) on Monday October 22, 2001 @08:44PM (#2463463) Homepage
    Apparently CmdrTaco had a lapse in thinking..

    Slashdot doesn't need banner ads or subscriptions. If Taco wants cash all he has to do is start selling karma.. Just think: Karma-whoring with a credit card.

    Who here wouldn't pay a few extra bucks for a little more karma?

    After that, he could introduce credit-card moderating.. $10 and you can take that pro MSFT comment from +5 all the way down to -2!

  • by krogoth ( 134320 ) <slashdot.garandnet@net> on Monday October 22, 2001 @08:56PM (#2463540) Homepage
    At least they're well targeted. You won't see a full-page ad on CNet talking about "vaginal yeast infections" :)
  • by maxpublic ( 450413 ) on Monday October 22, 2001 @11:13PM (#2463992) Homepage
    Hey, those cameras are great for recording myself, my wife, and our various partners engaged in lustful orgies. A camera for every angle, straight to the computer to be recorded and cut for later viewing pleasure. Woohoo!

    Max
  • by DrSpirograph ( 302281 ) on Monday October 22, 2001 @11:19PM (#2464023) Homepage
    We already "pay" for the site by submitting content!

    Oh, our mistake, we'll just send that content to the bandwidth providers and I'm sure they'll accept it in place of payment.
    As will the landlords and grocery stores used by those who maintain slashdot.
  • by A_Non_Moose ( 413034 ) on Monday October 22, 2001 @11:22PM (#2464036) Homepage Journal
    And here I was being paranoid, or thinking I was getting there at least, but this explains it:

    From CmdrTaco:
    I'd personally like to assign a -2 penalty on any comment rated 'funny' because most of them frankly just aren't funny at all. But humor is far too subjective to say that the moderation is unfair. Anyway, now everyone can decide for themselves. That should happen in the next few weeks.
    Well, you got your wish CT, any funny comment that I've seen and made, reguardless of content has been modded down (probably including this one, too).

    Don't believe me...browse at -1 on occasion.
    Too many "Why was this modded down" posts are cropping up... or rants on the subject.

    You are correct that "humor is entirely to subjective", so, we'll be objective about it and hunt down people by name and mod them down no matter what. Seems to be the case.

    Ever since my (only) accepted submission of "MS extensions" being another piece of the monopoly they have...things have gone to hell and a handbasked.
    Ironically, what I had written on the subject was being an "interesting notion and plausable" and my words were ignored but the slashdot spin put on it was all that was needed to bring about being modded down reguardless

    Aw, gawd, I hate it when I answer my own question, but it took this subject to make it clear.
    I post a story.
    Story Accepted.
    Story posted + /. spin villifying Microsoft.
    Moose gets villified.
    Moose gets modded down at every turn reguardless of content/intent.

    Let me be the first to say, that I have never, ever trolled.
    Yes, I have strayed offtopic during a post (who hasn't on occasion), I've had rants that are/were/could be flamebait (when you are pissed, you really don't care).
    I've apologized (and gotten modded down in the process...my, how nice).

    Personally I find the quote from CmdrTaco disturbing, almost as bad as trying to "legislate morality"...we all know how well that works.

    Think about it: a -2 for being/trying to be funny?
    Dang, but why not just say "try to crack a joke and we will censor you".

    The ultimate irony here is in "trying to avoid becoming the things/people we "hate/dislike" only to look and see we have turned into just that. (i.e. if /. moderators can silence a few people that are not trolling, is that any better than Apple/ms/disney lawyers silencing "the little guy")

    I think my sig says the above in the fewest words possible and more to the point.
    (even more ironic is it was one of the funniest lines in the monty python film it came from)

    Moose.

  • Re:shit. (Score:2, Funny)

    by lewp ( 95638 ) on Monday October 22, 2001 @11:52PM (#2464136) Journal
    Some people have found this system already. It is called pron. For some reason geeks can reach their wallets more easily when their other hand is ...
  • Re:Ummm... (Score:2, Funny)

    by wugmump ( 6611 ) on Tuesday October 23, 2001 @01:13AM (#2464386) Homepage
    No, no! It IS slashdot.com! Try it! [slashdot.com]
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23, 2001 @01:30AM (#2464430)
    Mozilla has the same feature, but easier. Just press any key and wait and VIOLA! No Ads! No web browser either, because it crashed, but that's besides the point.
  • by spudnic ( 32107 ) on Tuesday October 23, 2001 @02:07PM (#2467055)
    Interesting? Now what would REALLY be interesting would be a link to your FTP repository! ;)

  • by Prior Restraint ( 179698 ) on Tuesday October 23, 2001 @02:27PM (#2467250)

    [Ultra-bizarre post in which user number 459812 refers to self as "a slashdot veteran", protests the "blindingly obvious" insightful posts in a manner virtually indistinguishable from any other protest of same, and is modded as insightful.]

    [Obligatory reply attempting to point out the irony of parent post, but self-consciously ignoring several inconvenient facts so that it can be modded as funny.]

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