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Return of the Dragon 138

Posted by michael from the you-wanna-fight-fight-me dept.
Lysander Luddite writes: "More CG actors, this time of Bruce Lee in a film tentatively titled "Dragon Warrior" by Korean filmmaker Chul Shin. Wired has the details. Compare to an older Wired article when this type of thing was just beginning." There's a Reuters article too.
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  • Dragon Warrior? (Score:5, Funny)

    by turbine216 ( 458014 ) <turbine216@NosPAm.gmail.com> on Friday November 16, 2001 @10:31AM (#2574304)
    ...if the title is any indicator, we'll be seeing a lot of 8-bit sprites running around fighting slimes and wraiths.
  • I've never met a moviestar in my life, so I wouldn't know the difference between a real one, and a fake one;)
  • Throw Brandon in there too.

    I'm all for using computers to generate characters, but when the technology gets good enough to recreate a living person, why not use it to create a totally new person?

    It just seems kinda odd that a company can buy the rights to a person's likeness.
    • why not use it to create a totally new person?

      They did that with the Final Fantasy film, and it sucked! It might have looked good enough but the characters barely showed emotion or reacted with their environment- making the film incredibly tedious to watch
      • They did that with the Final Fantasy film, and it sucked! It might have looked good enough but the characters barely showed emotion or reacted with their environment- making the film incredibly tedious to watch

        I have to say that the FF film was the best I've seen so far (WRT to %100 CG). Although I agree with you.

        I'm kind of worried that they are going to screw it up. I mean, There is a lot more to a bruce lee movie that somebody that looks like bruce lee. Take "Game of Death" for example, that was made from bruce lee out takes, unused footage and look a likes, it really sucked. You can see straight a way that he doesn't move like Bruce Lee, B.L. has a very defined way of moving and I really don't see people getting that on computer.

        Basically, I think they have bitten off more than they can chew and will not make CG movies take off or look good. They should stick to trying to make FF type movies better before the insult really cool death people in corny ways....

        • Heh, maybe they can replace him with a digital Jackie Chan near the end of the movie. If I remember right, Jackie Chan was the man who stepped in to be Bruce Lee once the origional died.
    • When they can recreate a living person on screen, and can make them do whatever they want, screw you guys, I'm staying in with my copy of 'Cindy Crawford spanks Naomi Campbell whilst being orally pleasured by Claudia Schiffer'
    • What do you think Tiger Woods and and Michael Jordan are selling to Nike? Or what about those KISS action figures, for that matter?

  • Is it correct ? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by dda ( 527064 ) on Friday November 16, 2001 @10:33AM (#2574317) Homepage
    Is that correct to put him in a film, without let him having the choice ? I think we should think about the respect of his memory ...
  • So...are they going to bring back all of the old video games as movies, then? And using actors who have very little to do with anything in the plot?

    I don't think I'm going to go see that. I think I'll wait for the pong movie to come out. I hear they're casting Elvis as the lead opposite Marylin Monroe. Apparently there's gong to be a musical number about hitting the ball.

  • Gladiator and Olly Reed (Score:4, Interesting)

    by MisterPo ( 520698 ) on Friday November 16, 2001 @10:38AM (#2574338)
    Oliver Reed died during filming of Gladiator and apparantly they used some sort of pioneering CGI to finish his scences. Quite interesting as it was considered to be his finest role in years, so is this an indicator of how good Bruce's new movie could be?

    Or will it be more like that dreadful Pepsi add a few years back with Bogart, Marilyn and Einstein??

    Po

    • False (Score:3, Funny)

      by BillyGoatThree ( 324006 )
      http://www.fiktiv.com/crowe/articles/garticletf.ht ml

      Lines of interest: "Totally false," says Penny. "What we did was very similar to the process used on The Crow after Brandon Lee died. We did not recreate a CG Oliver Reed and get him to walk. We just took him from one scene and placed him into another."
    • As far as I'm concerned, Proximo is the best role he had (Huge Gladiator fan) but don't think that the cgi 'acted' for him..
      The effect you mention involved a combination of out-take, cgi and a stand in (This is from memory, so correct me if I'm wrong).
      It strikes me that without any of the above, it would take a huge wodge of cash to film a new 'Bruce Lee'. Don't expect cgi to take over any time soon.

      Great quote attributed to Olly Reed:
      "My only regret is that I didn't drink every pub dry and sleep with every woman on the planet."
      • > As far as I'm concerned, Proximo is the best role he had...

        I think he outdid that in his role as Athos in Richard Lester's Three Musketeers [imdb.com] and (especially) the "sequel" Four Musketeers [imdb.com], where he was pretty much the focus of the show.

        ps - Don't confuse these fine films with the dweebie pretty-boys-who-can't-act version of '93. If you haven't seen them, then waste no time in renting them.
    • The work they did to Olly was hardly "pionneering", however they did a very nice job. Suffice it to say, there's a universe of difference between some clever tricks on a few scenes with existing footage of an actor that has already created the character for the audience, vs making a digital human that must convey an entire performance from scratch. FF showed just how incredibly far the technology has to go to make people *care* about pixels pretending to be humans. This producer is doing what producers do best: BS

      DThorne
  • Instead of working to properly synchronize the actor's lips with the dialogue, just dig up an actor who couldn't do it when he was alive. Real clever :)

    (Yes, yes, I know the sound was recorded separately from the video for cost-cutting reasons, and yet somehow most real Chinese martial arts movies still take longer to watch than they did to make)
    • Even good movies often have their sound recorded seperately. Location dialogue often sounds like crap, so they use ADR (Automated Dialog Replacement) to record the same lines in a controlled environment. Lip sync is aided by computers.

      Actors dubbing these low-budget imports into English aren't so careful and don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment to help 'em get it right.

      Justin
  • Release date: 2004.

    Post it as news then.

  • What does hollywood want? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Alien54 ( 180860 ) on Friday November 16, 2001 @10:40AM (#2574342) Journal
    is developing software that will fool audiences into believing they're seeing Bruce Lee in the flesh.

    I can just imagine that what Hollywood wants is to be able to by the rights to the images of famous actors from their estates, so that they can pump out endless movies with familiar faces on the cheap. Just think of those commercials from a few years ago where bogart and wayne were seen to be pushing coca cola.

    If they had a chance, they would likely jump at the chance. Never mind someone who looks like some celebrity, but isn't quite. I can just see the law suits now!

    I recall some story on slash a while back about the chance of thise sort of thing happening down the road with digital actors on your computer desktop. (I think this was about using a gaming system as a movie production tool) A movie file then would in some way be sort of similar to a MIDI file, specifying the actors actions. There are obvious applications for all varieties of "Home Entertainment" projects (quit leering!)

    • Actually, there is a company that has done just that. I was trying to find the name and details when posting the story, but running off to work made me quit.

      The company in question has rights to WC Fields and several other "Golden Age of Hollywood" actors for use in future productions.

      There's another article on that here:
      http://www.infoculture.cbc.ca/archives/special_c ov erage/special_coverage_digicelebs1.html

      Other related articles:
      http://www.entrepreneur.com/Magazines/MA_SegArti cl e/0,1539,284880----1-,00.html

      http://www.moves.com/film/marlene.html

      Virtual Celebrity's web site points to Global Icons - "Defining Excellence in Licensing"
      check out this page: http://www.globalicons.com/Legends/index.html

  • Digital Slavery (Score:5, Funny)

    by derrickh ( 157646 ) on Friday November 16, 2001 @10:42AM (#2574348) Homepage
    Thats what it is.

    Here's a scenario: I want to make a porno starring Marilyn Monroe and Charlie Chaplin. I use computers to make a lifelike digital movie. Now theres a good chance that people won't associate these actors with the Little Dictator or Gentleman Prefer Blondes. Instead they'll be known for 'Charlie and Marilyns Hardcore Anal Fantasies (vol.1 - 25)'.


    Or take it to a greater extreme:

    Brad Pitt refuses to star in my next blockbuster. I kill him and have his digital copy star in it instead. (He's dead so he can't sue).


    D

    • Dude, that doesn't make any sense. You need the estate's approval to do any of this.

      (He's dead so he can't sue)

      Are you a troll? His family can certainly sue.
      • By the time they try to get an injuction, the flick is already on DVD. The movie industry may be short on stars, but it certainly has enough lawyers to keep a couple of family members at bay.

        D

        • Even if they manage to do this, the estate would still eventually take a big enough chunk out of the movie company in actual and punitive damages to make it unprofitable. I believe there are already cases on record about using celebrity voice impersonators in radio ads, so I don't think movie companies would be dumb enough to try it.
          • It's not a matter of being "dumb enough to try it," it's a matter of being powerful enough make it legal. If they see enough profit in it, they can buy Senators all day long until it's legal. Politicians are cheap compared to actors.

    • Re:Digital Slavery (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      This was a movie with Albert Finney. It was called "Looker," and an evil advertising was killing models after creating computer generated duplicates of them for commercials.
    • 4 words:

      Debbie does Abe Lincoln

      Abe Lincoln has been dead for a long time, copyright has expired on his portrait (10 years after death, IIRC).

      //rdj
      • as Gerald Ford said:

        "If Lincoln was alive today, he'd roll over in his grave."

      • Abe Lincoln has been dead for a long time, copyright has expired on his portrait (10 years after death, IIRC)

        This may be true of Abraham Lincoln, but it isn't true of anybody who died on or after January 1, 1931. Copyright lasts until the later of 70 years after December 31 on or after the death of the last surviving author, or 95 years after December 31 on or after first publication. And yes I do think believe that the term is too long to effectively "promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts." See also Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act [wikipedia.com].

        Even then, trademarks never expire as long as they remain in use.

        • yes, the author of a pictures copyright lasts 70 years. I meant the portrait-rights though, which is slightly different.. they last shorter, and a CG image isn't a pre-existing picture, so author's rights do not come into play.

          //rdj

    • Re:Digital Slavery (Score:2, Insightful)

      by theghost ( 156240 )
      What dumb-ass rated this as funny?

      derrickh may be simplifying it a little, but his point is valid and scary.

      People (or at least their images, voices, and names) will become commodities. They will be bought and sold by collectors, investors, studios, and Associations (as in MPAA and RIAA). Do you trust your "estate" not to sell you to the highest bidder to pay off their mortgage?

      How long will it be until the studios are getting desperate young actors to sign away the rights to their own face and voices? Suddenly a career consists of stepping into a biometric scanning booth and collecting royalty checks.

      How long before the MPAA buys enough senators to pass a law saying the actors' images are the studios' IP?

      The problem here is not with the technology, but with the organizations that control it. The technology could be used to encourage creativity and provide a continuing legacy, but in our world, dignity almost always loses out to greed.
      • How long will it be until the studios are getting desperate young actors to sign away the rights to their own face and voices?

        It's a possibility I guess, but why bother? When you can *design* the perfect face for the part, why limit yourself to real people? Any good artist could take directions like "Gimme a face somewhere between Cruise and DeCaprio, with grey eyes and blonde hair. That's good, raise the cheekbones a bit, no, lets try green eyes..."

        I can understand copying an existing face that people are familiar with, but copying an unknown face is pretty pointless.

    • Your post got modded funny -- and it was. But just in case you were being serious, do note that this guy had to get permission from Lee's family. There's no reason actors couldn't trademark their image -- I'd be surprised if some don't already. (Could they copyright themselves? Prolly not... could their parents? Hrm...)


      But your idea about killing Brad Pitt may have some merit...

      • There's no reason actors couldn't trademark their image -- I'd be surprised if some don't already

        Princess Diana's memorial fund has been having a big fight about this since her death (Ok, she was not an actor, or at least not a very good one..)

        This has raised all sorts of discussions in the UK and abroad about trying to copyright 'image'. In short, the use of her image for crap merchandising appears to be blocked in the UK (unless it is 'official' crap merchandising of course). But in the US some bunch of jokers were allowed to make a 'singing Diana memorial plate', very tasteful I'm sure.

        The BBC has done some articles on this, start here [bbc.co.uk].
      • Right now the computers capable of this level of manipulation are out of the reach of mere mortals. What happens in a decade when people have enough compute power sitting on their desktops to do this? Sure, a real corporation might be detered by trademark and the possibility of a lawsuit but what about Joe Average, or Joe Below-Average? What happens when Stile of The Stileproject [stileproject.com] gets his hands on the technology and we've got a bukakke video starring the Bush twins and their dad?


        I don't think there's any legal means to prevent this that won't be just as bad as the current anti-napster methodology, but I still find the practice and potential for abuse rather hideous.

    • Why wait 'till you're dead? Go into the studio for a few face/body scans a la Bruce Sterling's Islands in the Net. Julia Roberts could make $20M in a few minutes instead of slaving away for months on the set.
    • Dude, sick and twisted.

      Which is why you might appreciate this:

      Asia Carrera and the Bruce Lee cgi "clone" in a porno called:

      Entering The Dragon.
      • Actually, wouldn't it make more sense as just "Enter the Dragon" ? When I think dragon, I think penis. Unless you're sticking things down the urethra... but that would be a sucky porno.

        Ouch, phantom pains!
  • Any Bruce is better than no Bruce at all. But, my guess is that they'll continue with animations along the lines of Hidden Dragon, Crouching Tiger. (soaring, levitation, etc)

    Bruce coulda kicked ass on all them pussies.

  • I think it's fine to do this sort of thing, but that the film should indicate in the opening credits which actors are digital likenesses, so the viewer can take that into account.

    Remembering the Slashdot stories about the DVD player with adjustable ratings [slashdot.org] and this voice-duplication system [slashdot.org] makes me wonder&when will films come with face-mapping data built into the DVD (or whatever format) and allow us to replace any actor in the film with the face/voice combination of our choice?

    It could start out as a novelty, of course, where you and your friends pop up as extras in the background, but eventually I could see picking and choosing your favorite actors as easily as picking tracks for a CD compilation.

    How far do you suppose we are from this happening?
    • Remembering the Slashdot stories about the DVD player with adjustable ratings [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org] and this voice-duplication system [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org] makes me wonder—when will films come with face-mapping data built into the DVD (or whatever format) and allow us to replace any actor in the film with the face/voice combination of our choice?

      The '&' ampersand in the previous comment was intended to be an '—' em dash. Guess you never get too big to preview your posts.

      "Character entities are hard!" — Web Guru Barbie
  • You can't turn a crap movie into a good movie just by putting Bruce Lee into it. These people seem to care more about making a good Bruce Lee model than a good movie, and I bet it's going to show in the result.
    Pity - Bruce Lee would have kicked anyone's ass who tried to make a replica of him...
    • I beg to differ. Bruce Lee made a number of otherwise crappy films worth watching simply becuase of his presence. Just like Jordan per se didn't make the Bulls a good team his rookie year. But he made the Bulls worth watching.

  • Crouching Clones, Hidden Actors.

    Article and Movie summation, but we'll see in 2004.

  • WAHKAAA! ..it's just not the same. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Nijika ( 525558 ) on Friday November 16, 2001 @10:47AM (#2574367) Homepage Journal
    You can't re-animate Bruce Lee, period. You can try in video games, you can try with CG, but you'll never get the essence. What hollywood should be doing is trying to find someone with the same charisma he had. Also, I think we're overlooking the Martial Arts stars we've already got on the market. Jackie Chan and the ever wired up Jet Li to name a few good ones.

    • In Deed - the _entire_ point of Bruce Lee's skill was that he did things other people couldn't. Hell, he did things with his body we didn't think bodies could do. So they think that now they can find some guy who studied Jeet Kun Do, or whatever it is they are saying he has mastered, and he'll move like Bruce?

      The point is, nobody moves like Bruce. That's why we watch him. I'm thinking this will be bad not only for the moral reasons (which bug me immensely), but for the technical/practical reasons. And hell, why not just call it Tekken 8: The Movie. Starring Law.
    • Well....

      Jackie is getting (and starting to look) old. He certainly has some charisma but his films are defintely not like Bruce Lee's. Jackie loves action, but not violence. Most of Bruce Lee's work relied on violence and venegence. I think he should do more behind the camera work.

      Jet Li looks great on film. He's helped in large part by camera and editting tricks. I'm not slamming Jet, but the style of movies from the early 70s to now is completely different. He does have a lot of charisma although his AMerican films seem to focus more on his "bad ass" side than his HK stuff.

      It'll be interesting to see if this proposed film will continue with the contemporary style or go back to the Cheng Che style of filming with lots of static shots that emphasize form and power over glitz and a melange of styles.

      You are right about the charisma thing. I'm sceptical a CG of Bruce Lee can capture it. And there are a lot of great martial artists available that just don't have the charisma to be the hero in a big box office draw. The opposite is true of course, although CGI is being used to make Ekin Cheng look like he can do martial arts.

      I hate the whole idea of CGI actors, especially using people who can't say whether they would want a CGI likeness of them being used. Its just another symptom of copyrights and IP being applied way too long IMHO.

    • > You can't re-animate Bruce Lee, period. ... Also, I think we're overlooking the Martial Arts stars we've already got on the market. Jackie Chan and the ever wired up Jet Li to name a few good ones.

      I agree with your sentiment, but I'd still like to put in a plug for Jackie's cartoon series, The Jackie Chan Adventures. Made for children, but geeks might like it. No, it isn't like watching his better movies, but it's fun. And funny.
    • Your imitation needs work; you have to let it kinda trail off while you look intense and unhappy. Mine would have been better if the goddamn lameness filter wasn't such a piece of shit.

      I don't know if I agree with your view on the imposibility of re-animating Bruce. CG has come in leaps and bounds. I do a lot of graphics related work, but I still find myself astounded every now and then with some of the new techniques being published. Even if they fail to capture Bruce, the problems they solve on the way should make for interesting research. Don't prejudge this, it could blow you away.

      Wow, the lameness filter really sucks. qwerty
      • I would have to disagree. Some of the best moments in movies are accidental. Take the last fight in Return of the Dragon. The camera starts rolling, bruce and chuck spar. That fight was totally not coreographed. There are other movies like A Fish Called Wanda. In the sex scene, kevin kline sings opera because he didn't know what else to do. When he was interviewed on Inside the Actors Studio, kline said he didn't expect it to be in the movie, but it is one of the funniest scenes.

        You can't plan accidents or spontaniety. Considering how time consuming CG work is and how much planning is needed, spontaniety is close to impossible to achieve. Sure the voice actors can improvise like eddie murphy in Shrek, but the physical subtle accidents will be lost.

        When anthony hopkins was interviewed about the sound he makes to jodi foster in Silence of the Lambs, he said it just came to him. That is result of the moment, not detailed story boards or careful planning.

    • Watch out for those rising stars! Although it wasn't a "pure" arts flick, Crouching Tiger: Hidden Dragon featured Ziyi Zhang, who at 20 years old already has moves that put Chan & Li to shame. The battle between Michelle Yeoh and Ziyi Zhang at the end of CT:HD was probably the best martial arts sequence I've ever seen, and yeah, I've seen pretty much every HK flick of any signifigance.

      Let's not worry about hanging onto the past, but instead look towards the future. There will never be another Bruce Lee, but you know what? That's okay. Watch his movies if you want to see him, watch new stars if you want to see new movies.
    • You can't re-animate Bruce Lee, period.

      That's what you hope. Hope doesn't make it so.

      You acknowledge that a man can have talent, yet you don't think animators can have talent.
      They can.

      The producers may not have the money to hire them this time.. but eventually...
  • Too bad they didn't have this available for Elvis' last concert :-\
  • While I question the taste of what looks to me like just a novelty project, at least this movie might mark a return to more old-school martial arts. I don't know about everyone else, but I've had my fill of people flying around, dodging bullets and hitting guys with motorcycles (wtf??). It was cool in the matrix but it's since lost its charm.
  • On a vaguely unrelated note, go out and rent "Wu Tang Champ Vs. Champ" for a truly sublime kung-fu experience. It stars Dragon Lee, also known as (here's where i keep from being completely off-topic!) Bruce Lei. Not to be mistaken for Bruce Le or Bruce Li, Dragon does Bruce Lee almost as well as Bruce Lee does Bruce Lee.
  • Basically, this technology just allows us to remix, rehash pop (movie) art again and again.

    But where's the creativity? The budding young stars that will be left out while the digital imitations of former greats crowd the screens?

    I know, I know, look to music remixes and how creative they are. But honestly, I'd prefer a new artist with a great new sound to a remix anyday.

    I hope the same doesn't start happening as much with cinema.
  • This is kinda' cool in theory, but it opens the doors to a whole host of problems. If we keep using established actors, even after they die, what about the up and coming? What's next, a new Frank Sinatra movie, or better yet, lets take old actors and digitize their youth. We could make old actresses regain their sex symbol status. I don't know about you, but I don't want some dead guy taking my job.
    • lets take old actors and digitize their youth.

      That's already been done, or is being done. Some Sean Connery movie is using clips from his old movies as source material to create new flashback scenes.
  • There are plenty of talented, new actors working there butts off to get a break. Any actor respectful of his/her fellow actors should refuse to do a movie with a dead man.
  • "he says it's a relatively simple task to digitally doctor the voice to make it a near-exact replica of Lee's voice." Why stop there! Im sure by 2004 at&t speach synth(http://www.naturalvoices.att.com) will be advanced enough to cause the executors of Lee estate to get worried.

  • This isn't news... (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    When Alias [sgi.com] first released Maya 1.5 on NT (maybe a year and a half or so ago), a pair of artists created a very realistic 5 minute clip of bruce lee doing some martial arts and even a close up, I believe the quote when the camera zoomed for a close-up dialog was something about water and how it becomes whatever you put it in "you put it in a cup, it becomes the cup". There was voice, there was extremely realistic video, etc. Alias Maya is now at 4.0, I dont see what the big deal is, same model, some new backgrounds, a new plot, and a couple more animators to stretch 10 minutes to 90. *shrug* I woulda been impressed in 99, now its just a remake.

    • Re:This isn't news... (Score:2, Interesting)

      by ultitool ( 319277 )
      That video was fairly impressive at the time, I believe it even won some siggraph awards. The audio seemed a bit unsynced with the lips at times and the face lacked a certain realism. Beyond that I would be very interested to see a feature length film reviving a star I never had the please to watch during his life time.

      If anyone wants to see the video mentioned here and in parent you can find it here [aliaswavefront.com]

  • Starwars... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Kewjoe ( 307612 )
    See i was thinking if GL ever wanted to make Episode 7,8,9 he'd have to CG Luke, Han, and Leia as they are way too old to play the roles now, and you *cannot* trying making 7,8,9 with other actors :)
    • No it would be more then perfect. Luke Leia and Han will all be about 20 years older in the film just like they are in real life. Plus they would show Leia & Han's children grown up as both being a Jedi. So GL could still make 7,8,9 w/ out CG characters for them.

      -Theed
      • Have you seen what Carrie Fisher looks like these days? She's lived those 20 years pretty damn hard.
        I'm actually really curious how espidoes 7/8/9 would relate to "Official" paper fiction such as the Timoth Zahn books (which, AFAIK, are considered canon)
    • True. Or he could just advance time by 20 years and use other characters for the main plot, with the originals showing up here and there.

      But then, he already said he wouldn't be doing 7-8-9. Which is fine by me. I can always just re-read the Zahn books and pretend...

  • They Did Get Permission, But... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by libertynews ( 304820 ) on Friday November 16, 2001 @11:26AM (#2574542) Homepage
    But I still don't think its right. I'm a huge Bruce Lee fan but it just doesn't seem right to resurrect him as a Digital Zombie. Are we going to see a film starring Bruce and his son Brandon (who was killed while filming The Crow)? I'd rather just enjoy the films he did make. There still isn't anyone who can move like he did.
  • In the quoted 1995 Wired article, there's an interesting line:
    " They still can't do hair very well, though. "The big challenge [is] fur," says Johnston. "

    Today we have Sulley from Monsters Inc - every hair in his fur is separately modeled. I guess since they've mastered fur, they can now move onto dead people.
    • Thing is, you can make a big blue furry monster look acceptably like a big blue furry monster quite easily because the audience doesn't see them every day.

      We're very good at recognising what a human should look like, and being just a bit off will make the CGI human look and feel fake compared to real actors.

    • every hair in his fur is separately modeled.

      Nope. Only about a thousand "key hairs" were calculated for motion, gravity, collisions, etc. The rest were just interpolated and cloned from the key hairs.

  • I hope it's better than this:

    http://www.y2khai.com/khai02.html

    It's like this and like that and like this and huh.
  • Kinda like the John Wayne Commercials, but these too will lose their appeal... but then again, considering what HollyWood has been pumping out lately, who knows...
  • Digitally capture those current film stars who, let's face it, just can't act worth a damn. They've got box-office appeal due to looks or fame carried over from another arena (musicians, wrestlers, etc). Now we have the technology to give them the acting talent they so sorely lack.

    I was going to name the specific "actors" I was proposing - but it seems unkind. They are so lame, they're sitting ducks.

  • Atleast we all know that the fighting will be much quicker and less drawn out once Christo gets his Defeat spell ;)

    -Theed
  • that Lee isn't doing all his own stunts?
  • So does this mean I'll see Bruce Lee hawking shitty fast food on TV (c.f. Monsters Inc./McDonald's tie-in) soon? Cool!

    If the studios think they can make a buck by exploiting dead actors, they will.

    -Legion

  • Bruce hits Metal Slime for 1 damage.
    Bruce misses Metal Slime.
    Bruce misses Metal Slime.
    Bruce misses Metal Slime.
    Bruce misses Metal Slime.
    Bruce misses Metal Slime.
    Bruce misses Metal Slime.
    Bruce hits Metal Slime for 1 damage.
    Bruce misses Metal Slime.
    Bruce misses Metal Slime.
    Metal Slime runs away.

    Awwwww :(

  • Color me virtually excited! I'll have to send my clone down to check it out first...I can't be bothered with the menial things.

  • Has to be said... (Score:3, Funny)

    by sharkey ( 16670 ) on Friday November 16, 2001 @01:19PM (#2575166)
    "I see dead senseis"

    At least he's not dancing with a fucking vacuum cleaner.
  • The BBC's Research and Development Department, working in conjunction with Avatar and BT Labs and De Montfort University have come up with the Prometheus Project, which is an attempt to create high quality 3D animated actors.

  • CG whiz-bang overkill (Score:3, Insightful)

    by option8 ( 16509 ) on Friday November 16, 2001 @03:19PM (#2575828) Homepage
    Shin is looking for an actor whose voice resembles Lee's voice to read his lines; he says it's a relatively simple task to digitally doctor the voice to make it a near-exact replica of Lee's voice.

    ...

    Shin also has a short list of Asian martial arts performers who have learned to imitate Lee's moves very closely. He plans to film them using motion capture equipment that he can then incorporate into his digital Bruce Lee models -- giving fight sequences a natural flow.

    so.. he's going to have a Lee talkalike and a Lee fightalike, and potentially a Lee lookalike (for wide shots and such). so why not just use them, and traditional photography, instead of trying to resurrect Bruce Himself through technology? Hell, Brandon Lee did an admirable job in his shot at it [imdb.com].

    the result would likely be a better homage to Lee, and less the necropheliac masturbation that has been the result of similar efforts thus far.

    let the dead stay dead, dammit. especially the dead guys we liked when they were alive.
  • I can hear it now.

    "Can't these CGI characters even act?"

    Besides, what the hell do we need with a CGI Bruce Lee, anyway? We already have a perfectly good CGI Jet Li in Romeo Must Die and The One.
  • Ooooh, the potential! Natalie Portman and Jessica Alba doing the wild thing, and not just 28 seconds in mid-clip with bad disco playing over the grunts and groans! Talk about the internet killer app: porn that you can create with anyone you lust after doing anything you want! Including to you!

    Yeeee-eesss!

    Max
  • Final Fantasy might not have had the best story line ever but it did have the best CG. There were times in which I'm sure I forgot they weren't real.

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