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Star Trek TNG DVDs 416

pgudge writes "startrek.com had a post about the paramount release of Star Trek The Next Generation on DVD. Claimed a around $100 for the season pack, including 7 DVD's. And that other season are to be released every other month thereafter. all done in Dolby Digital 5.1. Release date expected 26th march" Good way to watch them without suffering through TNN's ridiculous image squashing technology (Proudly proving that in the future everyone is either a pro wrestler, or shaped like a pear!)
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Star Trek TNG DVDs

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  • About time! (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Sethb ( 9355 ) <bokelman@outlook.com> on Sunday January 13, 2002 @09:06PM (#2834294)
    I've been waiting for this, better dump the few ST:TNG Laserdiscs I have on eBay right away.

    Oh, and I submitted this several days ago:

    * 2002-01-11 11:58:47 ST:TNG DVD Sets Officially Announced (articles,tv) (rejected)
  • by jd142 ( 129673 ) on Sunday January 13, 2002 @09:07PM (#2834296) Homepage
    Now if only Babylon 5 could get the same treatment. Buffy is on the way. And Simpsons 1st season is out.

    Anyone have any more info?
  • This is better... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by wo1verin3 ( 473094 ) on Sunday January 13, 2002 @09:12PM (#2834319) Homepage
    then the way they packaged the original series, by putting 2 episodes per DVD and charging $20-$30 per 2 episodes.

    I'll be collecting these, and hoping the original series, as well as Voyager is released in this fashion.

    I can't imagine DS:9 would sell quite as well... :)
  • by UnknownSoldier ( 67820 ) on Sunday January 13, 2002 @09:13PM (#2834325)
    It's about time bloody time Paramoun! Who would pay $20 for 2 episodes on a VHS/DVD ?? X-Files on DVD did it right from the beginning. Each season for ~ $120.

    Now we just need Babylon 5, Futurama, Deep Space 9, and Red Drawf on DVD and I'd be a happy sci-fi geek! Oh yeah, and the complete Lord of the Rings. ;-)
  • by funkhauser ( 537592 ) <zmmay2 AT uky DOT edu> on Sunday January 13, 2002 @09:21PM (#2834345) Homepage Journal
    Having screwed up quite a bit in the past, it's good to see Paramount getting their act together with this boxed set. I guess they're just trying to make up for Enterprise.
  • I'll wait for now... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by supernova87a ( 532540 ) <kepler1@@@hotmail...com> on Sunday January 13, 2002 @09:28PM (#2834360)
    Although I enjoy watching Star Trek TNG (and none of the other series for some reason), I won't be rushing out to buy this set. I just watched one of the first series episodes on TNN last week, and it was awful -- just like I remember.

    If you want to see bad dialog, melodramatic music, poor lighting, etc. then buy this set. Honestly, I feel a little embarassed for the cast and producers when these first episodes are shown on tv...

    Whenever I watch one of these first episodes, I feel like they were trying so hard, yet it just didn't come out right. There were cheesy props, outlandish plot lines, and the thoughtful issues that made later episodes a success weren't yet developed. I enjoy it more when the stories and cast were subtle and nuanced. These episodes stand out like an ugly sore in TNG's generally good later work.

    I'll wait till the uniforms change -- that's one of the turning points!
  • Re:This is better... (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13, 2002 @09:29PM (#2834365)
    as well as Voyager is released in this fashion.

    I can't imagine DS:9 would sell quite as well... :)


    What!? I thought DS9 was SOO much better than Voyager. Even though it was a bit more soap-opera-ie, the plots were better and more diverse (but not as good as TNG).
    Also, DS9 had more hot women ;-)
  • by Champaign ( 307086 ) on Sunday January 13, 2002 @09:30PM (#2834366) Homepage Journal
    I was really excited initially when I saw they started releasing complete seasons of shows on DVD. Since getting a couple, truth be told, I hardly watch them at all... There's some things that I'm willing to invest the energy to put on and watch, and other things that I'm only willing to pick up when channel surfing.

    The only thing I've found them really valuable for is when someone hasn't seen a series, and I want to show them a few episodes (e.g. The Sopranos). I was delighted to get the first season of "The Simpsons" and tore through the special features, but haven't watched a single episode from it. Something like TNG everyone's seen and I really can't see myself getting a craving to see "Data's Day" and throwing it on...

    Am I a freak or do other people buy these things and not watch them?
  • Legality Issues (Score:2, Interesting)

    by LeiraHoward ( 529716 ) on Sunday January 13, 2002 @10:04PM (#2834478) Homepage
    What in the world are you people thinking? One of the reasons these companies have to make their products cost so much is so they actually make a profit. Every illegal copy takes away from that.

    I know Star Trek is a huge enterprise (pun intended) now, but there are still a lot of people out there who worked really hard on the project, and deserve to get a bit of reward for their work.

    My general rule of thumb for file copying is this: do I take income away from the owners of the copyright? For instance, when you watch TV and videotape an episode, the television company has already paid for the rights for the episode to be shown. So you're not taking anything away from the company. However, if they make a special high-quality DVD edition, and you just copy it, they are losing the money they would have gotten if you rented or *gasp* even bought it.

    $100 for a season isn't that unreasonable. It works out to something like $3.50-$4.50 per episode, which is not that hard for you all to do. If you really want them, save your money and buy it! It works out to less than $2/day if each season comes out every two months. Not that hard to do, folks. I know some people who put more than that in the vending machines at work!

    Besides which, once you figure in the price of your internet connection, and purchasing CDs to burn the data on, you really aren't saving that much money, but you're getting an inferior quality ripped file!

    As for me, I think I'll start saving my money now. That extra footage bit sounds cool!

  • by AntiNorm ( 155641 ) on Sunday January 13, 2002 @10:05PM (#2834484)
    Why the heck would they want to region-protect STTNG DVDs anyway? The industry claims that region coding is there so that they can control the release of movies, etc. -- but STTNG is no movie. If they use region coding on something like this, the MPAA's argument for having region coding gets flushed down the drain. It becomes quite apparent (as if it wasn't already) that region coding is there for more than what they claim it is.
  • by TheOnlyCoolTim ( 264997 ) <tim...bolbrock@@@verizon...net> on Sunday January 13, 2002 @10:09PM (#2834495)
    It would probably be cheaper to put together a cheap computer and a month of broadband internet to download them all in divx...

    Tim
  • Can't they count? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13, 2002 @10:12PM (#2834507)
    Why can't they manage to get the shows in order on the DVD's?

    Disc 1: Encounter at Farpoint Parts 1 & 2 (episodes 101, 102), The Naked Now (103), Code of Honor (104)

    Disc 2: The Last Outpost (107), Where No One Has Gone Before (106), Lonely Among Us (108), Justice (109)

    Disc 3: The Battle (110), Hide and Q (111), Haven (105), The Big Goodbye (113)

    Disc 4: DataLore (114), Angel One (115), 11001001 (116), Too Short a Season (112)

    Disc 5: When the Bough Breaks (118), Home Soil (117), Coming of Age (119), Heart of Glory (120)

    Disc 6: The Arsenal of Freedom (121), Symbiosis (123), Skin of Evil (122), We'll Always Have Paris (124)

    Disc 7: Conspiracy (125), The Neutral Zone (126), Special Features
  • Re:Legality Issues (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Dudio ( 529949 ) on Sunday January 13, 2002 @11:15PM (#2834682)
    One of the reasons these companies have to make their products cost so much is so they actually make a profit. Every illegal copy takes away from that.

    Let's not forget production costs, which I seem to recall reading were in the range of $1 million/episode for TNG. Also, I think the actual monetary loss to the studios as a result of personal copying is a lot less than the industry would have you believe. The people who d/l ripped copies generally do so for one of three reasons: (1) they can't afford to buy the commercial product; (2) they refuse to buy the commercial product, but wouldn't mind having a copy lying around; (3) they want to check out the product before deciding whether to buy it. Generally, people who want the product and can afford it will buy it. Granted, there are people who will decide not to buy the product if they can get a reasonable copy for free, but with TNN running two episodes of TNG a day, most of those people will just set their VCRs and be done with it.
  • Outtakes / Bloopers? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by instinctdesign ( 534196 ) on Sunday January 13, 2002 @11:42PM (#2834741) Homepage
    I don't see them on the feature list, dang... that would have made this one really worth having. Perhaps we might get lucky and see some on the upcoming sets.

    I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I kinda remember reading that there are a host of licensing issues surrounding outtakes and bloopers hence the lack of any released tapes. I have a short mpeg of a few from Voyager, DS9, and TNG and they are great! You can find them on Kazaa (gotta love spyware...) since I doubt my host would be too impressed if I were to host them off my site.
  • by rodgerd ( 402 ) on Sunday January 13, 2002 @11:43PM (#2834744) Homepage
    I've been waiting in eager anticipation of the Babylon 5 DVD sets, but Warners have started releasing everything in Region 4 as cheap, shittily made NTSC DVDs, for chrissake.

    Shitheads.
  • by lunadude ( 449261 ) on Monday January 14, 2002 @12:11AM (#2834817) Homepage
    The first B5 disk was released back in November! The two-sided disk contained:

    The Gathering (Pilot)
    In the Beginning (1993)

    No great extras, they are testing out the waters. If this disk sells well (read: buy one), they will release the entire series.
  • You're right...I think it's the fourth time, and it's really played out...I just couldn't resist, this time...all things considered, and what not. :)
  • by bnavarro ( 172692 ) on Monday January 14, 2002 @01:36AM (#2835023)
    I don't know about TNG, but apparantly with each season of Voyager's bloopers, these were compiled onto a tape, played at the season wrap party, and then destroyed. They decided that the bloopers would be reserved for the cast & crew's (one time) enjoyment only.

    A shame too. I read an interview with Jeri Ryan (7 of 9) once, and she gave an anecdote of an amusing blooper where Garret Wang (Ensign Kim) was supposed to grab her elbow to get her attention. She miscued and turned to face him too early, and Garret wound up accidentally grabbing her boob! Apparantly there were many "That's not an elbow" jokes on the set from that point on...
  • Re:Idea (Score:2, Interesting)

    by KILNA ( 536949 ) <kilna@kilna.com> on Monday January 14, 2002 @01:46AM (#2835047) Homepage Journal

    I may want to watch the boob tube and have it serve up content I may actually want to watch (i.e., from my collection), but maybe not something I want to bother to choose specifically (how often do you really set out to watch something like first season TNG, but one cannot help entranced by it when it comes on, if only for the mockery factor). Its just plain un-American to not enjoy flipping channels.

    Regarding not having a life, think about how much less of a life I [kilna.com] have than you, seeing as you're going around pointing fingers at all the people who supposedly don't have a life. On a slashdot article. Regarding Star Trek. Anonymously.

    Yeah, I may be a geek, but at least I realize it. :)

  • Widescreen TV shows (Score:2, Interesting)

    by sph ( 35491 ) on Monday January 14, 2002 @02:36AM (#2835142)
    About the only Widescreen TV show I can think of is B5. Are there many others?

    Yes there are, though B5 was basically the first one, the other pioneer being Lois & Clark. Some other shows that I know of include ER (from season 6, I think), NYPD Blue (from season 8), Sopranos, Buffy (from season 4), Angel... Neither TNG, DS9 nor Voyager were widescreen, Enterprise is the first one in Star Trek franchise. Come to think of it, most of recent television shows with budget have been moving to widescreen, though television broadcast versions may still be pan&scan. Widescreen is the future way, and now there no point making shows that will have black bars on left and right in 5-10 years.

    Actually, most of European TV productions, even low-budget ones, have been widescreen for years already.

    And back to B5... It's a rather complicated example when it comes to widescreen. While live action was filmed widescreen with Super35 process, almost all CGI and composite shots were done in 4:3 (except for the last few episodes). Therefore all the CGI and composite shots must be cropped from top and/or bottom for widescreen version. Also there will be definite resolution loss when making anamorphic widescreen masters, because the original rendering was made for NTSC resolution. There is a long analysis of all the problems involved here [cs.tut.fi].
  • impersonation (Score:2, Interesting)

    by DarkHelmet ( 120004 ) <mark&seventhcycle,net> on Monday January 14, 2002 @06:47AM (#2835510) Homepage
    I'd pay 20 to hear you dub over the DVD's with your own special impersonation of Picard.

    Still, my personal favorite Picard impersonation still goes to Jon St. John (The guy behind Duke Nukem) found here [3drealms.com]

  • DS9 (Score:2, Interesting)

    by akandels ( 550003 ) on Monday January 14, 2002 @10:53AM (#2836068)
    I'd rather see a DS9 release. Baby steps, I guess.
  • by dr00g911 ( 531736 ) on Monday January 14, 2002 @11:37AM (#2836257)
    There will be a separate set for the UK for a variety of reasons, but there's one reason in particular that comes to mind. The episode (I forget the title) dealing with Tasha's homeworld and terrorism was banned in the UK because it contains a line stating that terror attacks lead to Irish independence. So, in effect, there's a season that's one episode shorter in the UK. FWIW...

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