Sundance Channel Showing "Revolution OS" Monday Night 300
SnickleFritz writes "Monday the 18th at 9pm the Sundance Film channel will be broadcasting a documentary about the OSS Movement. It will feature interviews with Linus Torvalds, Eric Raymond and Richard Stallman. It labels them as "computer visionaries." While it will probably be old news to most people here, I will still tape it and loan it to every OSS doubting Thomas in my shop." CD: It should be noted that cmdrtaco is in this, talking about free software while lounging on an inflatable sofa at linuxworld. Clearly you'll want to go buy a big screen TV to watch this. This is the same movie that was screened at SXSW last year and at LinuxWorld a few times. Other people featured in the movie include Michael Tiemann, Bruce Perens and Larry Augustin.
No sundance! (Score:1)
Re:No sundance! (Score:2)
Can't. Violates Copyright law.
</sarcasm>
AFAIK, it's only on digital cable and minidish systems.
fyi
Re:No sundance! (Score:1)
Re:No sundance! (Score:1)
Re:No sundance! (Score:5, Funny)
Make a DivX out of it and distribute it on Gnutella, Kazaa, OpenNap etc.
Anyone who mails a VHS tape will be consigned to the same hell as people who think
Help (Score:2, Funny)
Am I seeing a jab here, or is my humor a bit off today?
yeah, I just can't wait (Score:2, Funny)
Re:yeah, I just can't wait (Score:1)
Wow...Rob Malda and Open Source Software and an inflatable sofa?
Where's my wallet?...I'm gonna go get me a big screen TV and a TiVo!
ESR? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:ESR? (Score:1)
ESR & RMS are not the same guy (Score:2, Interesting)
ESR is an excellent spokesperson and Open Source advocate. I've met him a couple times. Check out his webpage Eric Raymond's Homepage [tuxedo.org].
How can I see it? (Score:1)
Did the filmmakers take Stallman's rantings to heart and distribute the film under a free liscence? Can a copy be obtained online?
heh (Score:4, Funny)
Re:heh (Score:3, Funny)
Re:heh (Score:2)
Does anyone else see an uncanny resemblance [ex.ac.uk]?
Re:heh (Score:2)
In the linux.hr photo.. why do i get the feeling there's a HUGE hookah under the table..
Re:heh (Score:2)
Squint just a bit, and he looks a tad more like Ron Jeremy!
Re:heh (Score:5, Funny)
Disgusting_Cross_Reference(RMS_Naked)
Referenc
By Pedro@0xSLASHDOT
Purging Stomach... OK
Purging Memory.... OK
Eliminating Pedro. OK
{cerebrum} ok _
Re:heh (Score:3, Interesting)
same shirt? Ohgawd! (Score:2)
I like big, floppy tees with pockets. They don't restrict, and leave my neck alone. This reassures me that I am Safe(tm).
Maybe the familiar textures and aroma(s) allow one to maintain a connection to a known and stable frame of mind.. Eccentrics have long been known to carry some comfortable element of their environs around with them for this very reason.
Einstein would be a good example of the aforementioned fussiness.
Re:heh (Score:2)
Publicity (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Publicity (Score:1)
I'm a bit bummed that i haven't seen it for sale in stores or online, however. And it isn't to be found on any of the p2p networks either...
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the sundance channel?! (Score:4, Funny)
Don't you mean.... (Score:4, Funny)
Awesome! (Score:4, Funny)
I've said it before and I'll say it again- using those two malcontented weirdos to "sell" anything is professional suicide.
Maybe if we're lucky (Score:2)
C-X C-S
Re:Awesome! (Score:3, Funny)
> those two malcontented weirdos to "sell" anything
> is professional suicide.
Yup, never mind breaking up Microsoft or forcing them to open their API's, just make them to take on RMS as their chief marketing bod.
Of course, we'll have to run him through a copy of sed -e s/GNU/Microsoft/ first to make sure he has the desired effect.
Re:Awesome! (Score:2)
No, don't run 'im through sed. RMS is great like that as he is ;-) (yes, that's sarcasm)
Re:Awesome! (Score:5, Funny)
If nothing else catches their eye about open source software, maybe it would be the assurance that a team of experienced developers out there are developing the next generation of freely available information security tools (OpenSSH and OpenSSL, anyone?) that are already tightly integrated with a strong, BSD-based OS. We've already started working closely with several crypto-card manufacturers to write drivers for lightning-fast VPNs.
You are right about ESR, though. He's a nut.
Heaven's Gate... (Score:2)
Shameless.... (Score:4, Informative)
see? [kuro5hin.org]
Lets give credit where credit is due
Uh... (Score:2)
Re:autopr0n r4wKz (Score:2)
Heh, actualy I think I'm doing a good enough job of that on slashdot myself. If you really want to help, plug ap on other sites
Heh. (Score:2)
Sadly, I never got any naked pictures of her
Oh, also Asia Carrara [asiacarrera.com] considers herself a geek. keslin [keslin.com] is a geek sig-spammed k5 and slashdot for a while to get people to go to her porn site. You could probably say she was a geek, but. you probably wouldn't say she was that good looking...
Re:Shameless.... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Shameless....mod 'im up! (Score:2)
Moving to the mainstream? (Score:2, Troll)
Re:Moving to the mainstream? (Score:2)
Maybe someone can put it up on the web so we can all see it
I think I understand now.... (Score:5, Interesting)
Or are we just pandering to your love of buzzwords? Oh yeah, make sure you have an American Flag in the corner too... That would complete the picture.
Re:I think I understand now.... (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:I think I understand now.... (Score:3, Insightful)
Now those are visionaries...I appreciate the work of Linus and crew, but for all intents and purposes they're rewriting UNIX...the BSD folks did that more than 20 years ago.
Re:I think I understand now.... (Score:3, Insightful)
Ever since Sept 11th 2001, every News program on TV has had an American flag in a corner throughout the show. Most new commericals show people standing in front of multiple waving flags.
This is not to mention the hundreds of thousands of people sticking US flags on their cars, and Red White & Blue pins on their person. (A sort of sign saying "I'm a mindless tool" if you ask me.)
In addition, the film is being shown in the US and I must say that I believe Americans do at least make up the majority of Open Source developers.
Re:I think I understand now.... (Score:2)
Then why were our senators and congresscritters singing "God Bless America" on 9/12 or so?
Why can't I swear on a copy of "Origin of Species" when I'm in court?
And how come I can't get any currency that says "In Entropy We Trust"?
--saint
Re:I think I understand now.... (Score:2)
I though that on my own, without any research, and knowing nothing about the conspiracy the CIA uncovered in 1995 that Bin Laden's people were going to crash a jumbo jet into CIA headquarters.
I'm not saying I'm psychic, or any crap like that. It's simply a matter of using logic.
You know what logic tells me today?
Things I know:
1. It's easier to kill someone with a sharpened pencil than a 2" pocket-knife.
2. If people are stupid enough to sit around as someone's neck is slashed with such a ridiculous weapon, every last one of them deserves a collective darwin award.
3. The same type of people could be cohearsed by hanging some wires out of a box and claiming it's a bomb that will blow up the plane.
4. Cockpit doors are no thicker than they ever were before.
5. People in the US and around the world are not getting any smarter.
6. The FAA still has avoided the credit they deserve, and as long at that is the case, they have no motivation to actually increase security.
7. It's still Clinton's fault that the Bin Laden threat was never taken care of. 3 Murderous bombings, and dozens of unfulfilled plots is no subtle warning.
8. There are plenty of bacteria that will show no signs for weeks before they kill you.
9. Our few sources of fresh water are unprotected, and no ammount of filtering can set rid of all viri.
In otherwords, the world in no safer today than ever before. It's no less safe than ever before either. Pretending to be patriotic is not helping... It's just turing the USA into some damn big mindless & ignorant cult.
(No, this doesn't really relate to your point, you just provided a good setup for me to rant a little!)
Is this the one with.. (Score:5, Funny)
Encode it in Divx (Score:3, Insightful)
Kewl (Score:1)
Re:Kewl (Score:1)
***A bean has whipped you into Java***
Re:Kewl (Score:1)
This showed at HIFF Too!!! (Score:1)
That reminds me... (Score:1)
Actually, I saw something similar to this recently, only with CowboyNeal instead. Interestingly enough, the programme didn't seem to be related to free software.
At 9:00... on a Monday? (Score:1)
Alternate Timeslots (Score:2)
Gotta love TiVO listings. DirecTiVO takes care of that watch one record another thing just fine, too.
Argh.. don't copy it.. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Argh.. don't copy it.. (Score:1)
VooDoo on your SIG
Weeeeee! (Score:5, Funny)
It's the only way they could fit RMS's ego on the screen.
Relax, it's a joke. I can feel the flames already.
Re:Weeeeee! (Score:2, Flamebait)
Re:Weeeeee! (Score:1)
This moderating system is a bit wierd. I wanted like hell to rate the above statement "redundant" simply because it contained the words "RMS", "hippies" and "nuts". Then I realized that would take points away from the poster.
I'll just go home now....
Re:Weeeeee! (Score:1)
:)
Re:Weeeeee! (Score:2, Informative)
"Oh, I'll get flamed/modded down for this, but I think RMS has an ego".
For some reason this aspect of
It's like the people who insist they're going to get modded down for criticizing windows, but here goes.
sorry (Score:2, Funny)
Re:sorry (Score:3, Funny)
Re:sorry (Score:2)
I heard RMS had to train for three months to get the kung fu down.
(Once he did, he renamed it Kung/Gnu)
Huge? (Score:5, Funny)
Now I have never seen 'taco but is he a large man that requires an extra size TV to view?
Popularity/Coverage of Sundance Channel? (Score:1)
(Hopefully this doesn't spark another Altavista vs. Google debate...)
Re:Popularity/Coverage of Sundance Channel? (Score:2)
Re:Popularity/Coverage of Sundance Channel? (Score:2)
The media metrics guys don't measure viewership or penetration for any channel that is not a client. Sundance and Independent Film Channel are both "niche" channels, there primarily to market to the crowd drawn by "art" and independent film, and I am sure they have not signed up for any metrics services.
Recent Cable Nielsen results are here, but Sundance and the Independent Film Channel aren't even counted.
Re:Popularity/Coverage of Sundance Channel? (Score:2)
...this time I will preview...
I'll have tape running.... (Score:1)
I've seen it (Score:5, Interesting)
But the most suprising portroyal is how Stallman comes out. It shows a much more ballanced view of the GNU philosophy without coloring it with all the other stuff that Stallman gets knocked around for. They do show some of the conflict coming out between Stallman and his view of Linux, especially the footage of the LinuxWorld 99 acceptance speech.
Movie is better than I expected, and I like the fact that there is so much story behind where Linux came from, although it does paint a fairly narrow view of where Linux is going. Majority of it comes from the linux-mania of 99, and a footnote regarding VA Linux's stock runup and down.
Re:I've seen it (Score:2, Informative)
No Cowboy Neal ? (Score:1, Funny)
wrong title (Score:2)
They let CmdrTaco in this? (Score:1)
dammit. i modded his interview down but i guess the rest of you idiots actually found it inciteful
This ain't "The Code" is it? (Score:1)
I saw that one not long ago. It was funny, in a tragic sort of way.
it's also playing in Austin, TX on the big screen (Score:2)
big screen (Score:1)
Re: (Score:2, Informative)
Comment removed (Score:4, Informative)
IMDB surfing (Score:2, Informative)
Additional Showings (Score:2, Informative)
Monday, March 18 @ 11:00 pm
Thursday, March 22 @ 8:00 pm
Saturday, March 24 @ 3:00 pm
All times Central Standard time
DVD (Score:3, Informative)
Re:DVD (Score:2)
But how are you going to watch it on a Linux box???
That's no lady, sir... (Score:3, Funny)
If you look carefully, you will see this is NOT AN INFLATABLE SOFA but intead its Stallman's INFLATABLE DATE.
OK. Mod me down. It was worth it. Watch where you sit, Taco my boy.
Revolution: OS in Austin (Score:2)
you're not missing much (Score:2, Informative)
Oh well (Score:2)
Though I don't imagine this one has Rachael Leigh Cook and Claire Forlani in it . ..
ESR? Computer Visionary? (Score:2)
--Blair
New revenue source for OSDN? (Score:2)
I know how OSDN is strapped for cash these days. What if companies paid them to add some relevant links to Slashdot editor comments?
Clearly you'll want to go buy a Sony big screen TV [sonystyle.com] to watch this.
Is Slashdot above product placement? Tell me you weren't thinking about it when you read the article!
(I would have used Philips in my example, but their site is broken in Mozilla.)
any reviews? (Score:2)
Has anyone seen this movie? Can anyone comment on the quality of narrative, or the interview continuity, etc.
Is this worthwhile to introduce to my non-tech family members, or will I see Capt. Kirk at the end telling us all to go home, move out of our parent's basements, and get a life?
Watch the first 9 minutes over at Ifilm.com (Score:3, Interesting)
My review of the 9 minutes:
Linus seems like a nice enough guy, quiet, proto-typical geek, tends to talk a bit too technical but uses metaphors, comparisons to get his point across...Overall grade: B
Bruce Perens knows what he's talking about, but is either A) Amazed at the shiny flashing light on the top of the camera or B) staring at himself in the reflection of the camera. He needs to sit back, relax, and stop swinging around like a monkey...Overall Grade: C+
Mr Stallman handles himself well enough with an interviewer, but tends to talk over the heads of any non-technical viewer. His anecdote is interesting though, the loss of freedom because of having to use passwords..I wonder if he'd still give the same argument...Overall grade: B-
Eric Raymond scares me...and his obvious loathing for Microsoft is dripping off of every word "I'm your worst nightmare" That's jokes we tell around the office, not in public...Overall grade: C
9 minutes was enough of an anti-MS stance for me...the female voice, reading Bill Gates' letter to the hobby club was embarassingly melodramaticized.
On monday and tuesday I am boycotting Slashdot... (Score:3, Insightful)
(How's that for the world's longest run-on sentence??)
Says who? (Score:3, Insightful)
a) there were a bunch of free tools out there that happened to make life a little easier for the developers and were/happened to be under the GPL.
b) the developers, not much caring for any particular open ideology, decided that it was worth the hassle to go GPL to get those tools.
c) the viral nature of the GPL ensured that it continued to remain under the GPL and not OTHER open licenses. note: This is not the same thing as saying that that the GPL kept it open and/or alive, just that it remained under GPL.
Even if you accept that the GPL played some kind of important role (which is a real stretch if you ask me), it's JUST an idea and a rather trivial piece of work at that. For people that espouse the ideas that "information deserves to be free", it seems rather ironic to believe that you owe some kind of tithe to the person(s) that originated the idea ("obvious")and the text ("trivial") of the GPL. You laugh at patents and copyrights that do more and expect less...
Re:Says who? (Score:2)
I argued precisely that. It makes sense.
Firstly, you need to make a distinction between works of the GNU Foundation and works that were licensed under the GPL. If you accept the fact that the GPL software is indeed viral in nature, virtually any GPL'd code that makes it into the code base will practically have the effect of spreading itself into other parts. So it's disingenious to assert that GPL software inputs into the project are the same as a contribution by those that need or advocate the position of the GPL.
Secondly, while there may be no doubt that Linux used GNU code and products in the development of Linux, it does not automatically follow that Linux required either GNU code or any contributions of RMS. Would you make similar assertions about projects developed on Microsoft platforms? For instance, "if it weren't for Visual C++, then Photoshop would have never happened or been as good as it is." It's quite ludicrous, you need to evaluate the alternatives and the cost or feasibility of simply developing them from scratch. Don't confuse the GPL's pervasiveness in open source software with GNU's importance. They may be obliged to follow the licenses for using the code, but that doesn't mean they actually owe any further debts to GNU. Just as someone that develops on a Microsoft platform with Microsoft tools and code need follow the licenses and agreements, that doesn't mean they actually owe anything further; at the time of development the developers decided the costs/conditions of using the MS "stuff" was worth the benefits, but that's as far as you can reasonably go with it.
Breakfast (Score:2)
CmdrTaco's Bacon Number (Score:2)
Though for whatever reason "Rob Malda" is not listed in the Oracle of Bacon at Virginia's database [oracleofbacon.org], other folks who appear in Revolution OS [imdb.com] are listed. Since Bruce Perens [imdb.com] has a Bacon Number of 3, for his appearance in Revolution OS, CmdrTaco's Bacon Number is also 3.
Now, the question is, does he have an Erdös number [oakland.edu]?
Re:Trolls! Police yourselves! (Score:1, Offtopic)
My C code can't get past the lameness filter, but miles long lines
go through it like a fart through panties.
stop the screen graffiti (Score:1)