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The Culture of CD Burning 820

An anonymous reader points to this "good article from the Boston Globe about the culture of CD burning, and how hard it will be for the RIAA to stop it. Some interesting quotes: 'There's a "sex appeal" to burning CDs, says [Sheryl] Crow, adding that it is a social event for young people, just as listening to 45s was once a social event for their parents.' An interesting one from Hilary Rosen: "I ask them, 'What have you done last week?' They may say they wrote a paper on this or that. So I tell them, 'Oh, you wrote a paper, and you got an A? Would it bother you if somebody could just take that paper and get an A too? Would that bug you?' So this sense of personal investment does ring true with people." Seems like at least one musician thinks his A paper is being peddled all over town.
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The Culture of CD Burning

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  • Hmmm.... (Score:3, Funny)

    by L-Wave ( 515413 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @02:11PM (#3396071)
    'Oh, you wrote a paper, and you got an A? Would it bother you if somebody could just take that paper and get an A too? Would that bug you?'

    So is hilary saying that we are allowed to burn CD's of crappy artists?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @02:16PM (#3396135)
    I'm waiting ladies! Big spindle o' 100 CDs just waiting to be burned.
  • Re:Hmmm.... (Score:2, Funny)

    by Kierthos ( 225954 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @02:17PM (#3396140) Homepage
    No, no, only artists that don't get A's. Oh wait, that's like 90% of music out there now.

    Can we copy artist's term papers? What if it's just photocopies, not burning the file to a CD?

    Kierthos
  • by Kenja ( 541830 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @02:19PM (#3396157)
    You get that many bad burns? Ye-Gods, if I only got one good burn out of every ten CDs I'd return my drive.
  • by forged ( 206127 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @02:22PM (#3396193) Homepage Journal
    So I tell them,
    -Oh, you wrote a paper, and you got an A?

    -No sir, I wrote a paper and got Slashdotted.

  • by Kenja ( 541830 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @02:24PM (#3396216)
    What? No one ever uses CDs for anything other then stealing music.
    You people are Killing Kid Rock [216.239.33.100]!
  • by infinite9 ( 319274 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @02:26PM (#3396234)

    Would it bother you if somebody could just take that paper and get an A too?

    That should read: Would if bother you if someone copied your paper instead of paying me for the paper I coerced you into giving me?

  • by GMontag ( 42283 ) <gmontag AT guymontag DOT com> on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @02:31PM (#3396286) Homepage Journal
    It makes me wonder, has she heard the flaw in this analogy pointed out, and ignored it? Or has she not had a real conversation with someone who is on the other side of the fence? Or is she trying to deliberately give a shoddy analogy in the hopes it gets by people?


    She might think that she has to pay for advice of this quality.
  • Re:Hmmm.... (Score:1, Funny)

    by nolageek ( 526520 ) <nolageek@yahoo.com> on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @02:46PM (#3396432) Homepage
    I think it's more like... "Ok you wrote a paper that got an A, and you want to sell it to people that want to read it. But someone who bought it is now giving it away"

    Anyway, who the hell is giving Sheryl Crow an A? Puhlease.

    Vincent

  • by Futurepower(R) ( 558542 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @02:47PM (#3396447) Homepage

    "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway, where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -- Hunter S Thompson

    I like this quote, but I think that Thompson was a little too positive. Maybe he was having an excessively good day.
  • by Eccles ( 932 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @02:52PM (#3396493) Journal
    Lets say you buy a 50 pack of CD's....I might burn 5 music CD's from that.

    Get yo hands offa mah CDs!

    " That's the weird thing about 'N Sync and its rivals: It's impossible to appreciate their staying power, or fully fathom their genius, right down to the seemingly witless banter, unless they make you want to vomit."
    --The Washington Post, 4/23/02
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @03:12PM (#3396648)
    in other shocking news...

    paper outsold books.
    Authors everwhere are outraged.

    -xmod2@toolazytoolookupmypassword.com
  • by Greyfox ( 87712 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @03:12PM (#3396658) Homepage Journal
    Hell lets even forget net distribution for the moment. The technology is where it needs to be so that I should be able to go down to the local music superstore, select a dozen or so tracks I want, burn them to CD and pay a set rate for each track. Likewise, I should be able to, for example, burn all the existing Invader Zim episodes (Commercial free, thank you) to DVD, for a price. The industry won't even meet us that far, and then they whine when we come up with our own solution? The buggy whip manufacturers whined a lot when the automobile industry started to replace them too, and they didn't even have an evolutionary path they could follow to give the consumers what they want.

    Sure, some piracy is there because of the price (Only the industry's illegal price fixing to blame for that) but a hell of a lot more of it is simply due to the fact that the consumer can't get what he wants any other way. And the industry is clearly not willing to provide it.

    You know what the industry wants, what it really wants? It wants to control your entire listening and viewing experience and it wants each person to pay every time he listens to a song or watches a movie. And they want the $30 up front charge which they insist is just for the media and not for the right to view or listen.

    They wonder why their sales figures are dropping. Maybe it's because more people like me are becoming unwilling to pay those greedy pig fuckers a single god damned cent. I can't even remember the last time I bought a new CD for my collection (I don't download MP3s off the net either.) I can remember the last time I went to see a movie; Brotherhood of the Wolf (Sucked, but at least it sucked in French) and Mullholland Drive (Kicked ass) before that. Didn't see Harry Potter. Didn't see LOTR. Probably won't see Attack of the Clones. The industry can blow me!

    I'm not inclined to be the least bit sympathetic until those whiney fucks get with the technological program and start offering consumers some choice, and I don't mean "Should I buy the latest Britney Spears album or the latest Backstreet Boys album?" They're here to serve us. Not the other way around.

  • Sex Appeal? (Score:2, Funny)

    by duckie13 ( 234928 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @03:15PM (#3396695) Homepage
    'There's a "sex appeal" to burning CDs, says [Sheryl] Crow, adding that it is a social event for young people, just as listening to 45s was once a social event for their parents.'

    I'm sorry, but my friends and I don't have orgies everytime I toss a CD in the burner..
  • by PunchMonkey ( 261983 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @03:15PM (#3396696) Homepage
    Albhy Galuten, vice president of new media for Universal Records: "I find it incredibly ironic that some people will spend an extra $1,000 on their hard drives just so they can store more music, but they won't pay for the music."

    Where does this guy buy hard drives? Seems to me that a 40G HD is $150 Canadian. That's enough to store about 10000 songs, or about 1000 albums. That would cost $18000 dollars to buy those albums new, though, so even if you were paying $1000 for your hard drive, I could still see why you were doing it.


    Ah, you're making the same mistake I did long ago when working at a computer shop. You see, the term "hard drive" doesn't just mean the storage device, it's the whole unit!!! Motherboard, CPU, Videocard and all!!
  • Re:Hmmm.... (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @03:38PM (#3396895)
    This analogy, reworked for today's shitty bands:
    "Oh you wrote a paper and you got an A? Well even though all of your other papers got F's and it's obvious that you're a no talent hack and this was a complete fluke, would you mind if somebody put this paper in a compilation for their own use with other papers by one-hit wonders? Would that bother you?"
  • by breon.halling ( 235909 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @04:16PM (#3397187)
    ...a friend came over and asked if I could copy CD xyz for them.

    You bastard! I hope XYZ [geocities.com] doesn't find out! They could really use the money! ;)

  • by phloda ( 530937 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @04:21PM (#3397217) Journal

    In the early days, it would mean .3 billion coasters........

  • by tanpiover2 ( 249666 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @05:29PM (#3397722)
    There's an obvious reason for blank CD's outselling recorded ones:

    The blank ones sound better than the recorded ones [billboard.com].

  • by PsiPsiStar ( 95676 ) on Tuesday April 23, 2002 @05:30PM (#3397730)
    Allow me to introduce myself. I'm a music exec of some sway...

    I own a lot of congressmen who support the DMCA.
    pleased to meet you, won't you guess my name.

    But what's puzzling you, is it's a liscense that I claim.

    I'm the one you can thank
    for the hip hop and swank.
    I'm a corporate pimp
    leaching off some young skank.

    pleased to meet you
    won't you guess my name.
    But what's puzzling you, is it's a liscense that I claim.

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