Opera 6.0 for Linux Released 424
e1en0r writes "Opera released 6.0 for Linux and 6.02 for Windows today. The new features include cookie management and plug-in support. I've been using the beta release of Opera 6 for a while now and it's great."
Yes, Opera is great (Score:1, Informative)
Also patches some security holes (Score:4, Informative)
Here's the description (taken from the advisory):
Opera allows the location of a frame to be overwritten by an url
containing the javascript protocoll. The javascript code will be operating
in the same domain as the url that was overwritten. Thus we can read
cookies from other domains, local file structure and private information
from the cache (history of links visited).
Re:A banner in the browser. (Score:3, Informative)
Opera Software makes it's living by selling ads or by selling the browser. They used to have a time limited trial version, but decided to get rid of the time limit by making it adware.
So shell out the $40 (or less, can't remember), get rid of the ads, and support the company directly if you like the product.
You even get a discount if you purchase licenses for multiple platforms at the same time.
Re:Java (Score:2, Informative)
Title: Opera javascript protocoll vulnerability
Date: [2002-05-15]
Software: At least Opera 6.01, 6.0, 5.12 (win)
Rating: High because Opera is assumed to be secure
Impact: Read cookies/local filestructure/cache
Vendor: Opera has confirmed the vulnerability and released
today a new version 6.02 fixing the issue.
http://www.opera.com/ _ _
Workaround: Disable javascript.
Author: Andreas Sandblad, sandblad@acc.umu.se
Re:Opera may be cool (Score:5, Informative)
The irony of you complaining about the "bloat" of opera, and then state that you're using Mozilla hasn't been lost. That's a pretty funny joke, really.
Having said that, Opera has finally achieved a level of functionality (err, "bloat". Of course a browser that fits on a floppy wouldn't offer the features that customers needed, and wouldn't have any market presence) that makes it a very worthy replacement for IE on the Windows platform, at least: In my day to day use, 95% of my browsing is with Opera 6, and pretty much the only time that I don't use it is when visiting msdn.microsoft.com : Apart from that I've seldom had the slightest problems, and it offers fetures (such as multiple-windows in one host: I love this) like being able to accept/reject pop-ups (or prompt), among a whole slew of "quick preferences". Mouse gestures rock and I find myself trying to use them in IE all the time.
Opera is a fantastic browser, and if anything its time is just beginning. The advertising banner is unfortunate, but for people willing to pay the small price it is tremendous and well worth every penny.
Re:the killer (Score:1, Informative)
127.0.0.1 rps1.opera.com
127.0.0.1 rps2.opera.com
127.0.0.1 ins1.opera.com
127.0.0.1 ins2.opera.com
127.0.0.1 rgs1.opera.com
127.0.0.1 rgs2.opera.com
Re:opera as big as netscape? (Score:3, Informative)
More importantly, Opera by default identifies itself as another browser.
One of the first things I did when I configured it was to set it to identify itself as Opera rather than MSIE. I can't say I've ever felt the need to revert.
I guess I must have somewhat atypical browsing habits, since I can't say I've seen many problems with layout or JS - the worst I can think of from the past month or so was perhaps an offset CSS/Edge [meyerweb.com] style background image [meyerweb.com] on some site, and that's still rendered better than MSIE.
Certainly as a web developer I find I hit problems with MSIE more often than I do with Opera. I guess that's because I'm not a DHTML weenie
Re:A banner in the browser. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:The Mouse gestures are great (Score:1, Informative)
go back or forward pages
open link in new window
open a duplicate window (handy for forking searches)
switch browser windows (if you have a wheelmouse)
minimize a window
close a window?
Sure saves me time going to the Back icon or minimize or other buttons. See the Help..mouse menu for instructions. Yay Opera!
Re:Mouse Gestures In Opera (Score:3, Informative)
Try:
http://optimoz.mozdev.org/gestures/ [mozdev.org]
Re:This is how it was meant to be! (Score:2, Informative)
You have your PPC binaries here [opera.com]. At least it is an option for you.
Re:This is how it was meant to be! (Score:3, Informative)
Uh, they made a version of Opera 5 for the PPC. I expect that a PPC build of Opera 6 will be released shortly.
Here's Opera 5 for LinuxPPC [opera.com]
Re:Opera may be cool (Score:3, Informative)
Actually you can install Mozilla with only the browser if you so wish, or only the email client. You don't have to have any of the extra programs if you don't wish to - try using the Installer builds if you don't believe me.
I see people saying stuff like "Mozilla is bloated". That cracks me up. How big is a Mozilla install? About 18mb. Please compare that to Internet Explorer and yes Opera too, and I think you'll find it's favourable.
Now there is an argument that says, well you don't have to install Composer, but parts of it will still be there if you need Messenger, because Messenger uses Composer. This is a valid argument. But really, Mozilla is not bloated as in physically big. I always have it running in the background with FastLoad (when I'm in windows), and never notice it. I can do this, even with IE loaded.
Resource usage on Windows: Opera rules! (Score:5, Informative)
In another post, someone is bemoaning how Opera, which previously shipped on a single floppy, has added too much bloat.
Bloat? BLOAT? PuhLEEZE.
Try this on Windoze: from a fresh log-in launch Opera, Mozilla, Internet Exploder and Outlook Express. Then press ALT-CTL-DEL, and click Task Manager, then click the Processes tab. Then take a look at how much RAM each is eating up.
I did this at home, so I don't have the exact numbers handy, but as I recall Mozilla ate about 24MB, IE 7MB, OE 13MB (yikes!), and Opera 6 about 7MB.That's with no sites loaded. Now open up some good, large, complex pages; I tried Slashdot, Salon, CNN, and a few others, the same sites in each browser. In OE, Opera and Mozilla, go sign onto my IMAP email server, just for good measure. Now Mozilla uses 30+MB, IE is up over 20MB, OE is still eating 13MB or so, and Opera is using... about 12MB. Not too shabby.
Now close all the browser windows and log off email. Guess what? Moz is back to 24MB, Opera's back to 7MB, OE still hasnt' changed much, but IE is still sucking down 24MB. Nice garbage collection there, Microsoft.
When you consider that A) Opera provides the functionality of IE *and* OE, and B) some of IE/OE's resource usage is hidden in assorted other "OS" DLLs, Which one is bloated again?
Oh, one last little test... open up a loooong site in each (nice fat thread on Slashdot at Score:0 will do it), then press and hold the down arrow key and see how long it takes to scroll to the bottom. Opera is about twice as fast as Mozilla, and about half again as fast as IE. Add in Opera's industry-best standards compliance and rendering speed, what's not to like?
Opera's release numbers are screwy. (Score:3, Informative)
But at any rate, the upshot is that when he said "6.02" he was actually referring to an older version than the recent 6.0 release, despite what the numbers might make it look like.
Re:Features we really need (Score:2, Informative)
If you mean "renders common IE specific quirks" I don't care; if you mean "The full DOM and all of CSS2" then the programmers are saying version 7.
TWW
Re:MDI Web Browser? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:The Mouse gestures are great (Score:2, Informative)
Opera's had it for a loooooong time.
TWW