RIAA Sues Backbone ISPs to Censor Website 916
prostoalex writes "Music labels filed a lawsuit against major Internet service providers for not blocking access to Listen4Ever.com, music site located in China. The defendants in the suit include AT&T Broadband, Cable & Wireless USA, Sprint Corp., Advanced Network Services and UUNET Technologies." Wow.
listen4ever.com? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:from the rabid-knee-jerk-reactions dept. (Score:5, Informative)
Providing complete copies of copyrighted recordings is by no means fair use. Fair use would be providing short sections for critical discussion and analysis.
Take a look at this excellent article [chronicle.com] on real threats to fair use. It defines fair use as follows: "If you are accused of infringing, you can make an argument that your use of the protected works is 'fair' because of some combination of these factors: The nature of the original work makes it important that it be publicly discussed; the nature of your use of it is important because of teaching, research, or commentary; you do not use very much of the original work; your use does not significantly affect the market for the original work." All of these four criteria fail in the case of pirated popular music.
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Tim Maroney tim@maroney.org
Re:Hard to say... (Score:3, Informative)
But it won't stand, under DMCA (Score:2, Informative)
so, IANAL, but it looks like this suit isn't legally valid, under the DMCA of all things. (Not that we're surprised ... ^^; ) Now's the time to get serious with your boycotts if you haven't been already.
whois record - Re:U.S. Domain name? (Score:3, Informative)
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
Domain Name: LISTEN4EVER.COM
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Referral URL: http://www.melbourneit.com
Name Server: DNS2.HICHINA.COM
Name Server: DNS1.HICHINA.COM
Updated Date: 08-jan-2002
>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 17:02:01 EDT
The Registry database contains ONLY
Registrars.
Found crsnic referral to whois.melbourneit.com.
Domain Name.......... listen4ever.com
Creation Date........ 2002-01-09
Registration Date.... 2002-01-09
Expiry Date.......... 2003-01-09
Organisation Name.... Jun Sun
Organisation Address. No.15 Xinghua yizhi road.
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. tianjin
Organisation Address. 300381
Organisation Address. Tianjin
Organisation Address. CHINA
Admin Name........... kery crise
Admin Address........ Rotterdam-Maasvlaktee Europaweg
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Rotterdam
Admin Address........ 223211
Admin Address........ Rotterdam
Admin Address........ CHINA
Admin Email.......... yourlisten4ever@yahoo.com
Admin Phone.......... (31)10-2217741
Admin Fax............ 31)10-2217752
Tech Name............ luo qiang qiang
Tech Address......... Linguo beilu
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Lasa
Tech Address......... 223211
Tech Address......... Xizang
Tech Address......... CHINA
Tech Email........... sfp@eyou.com
Tech Phone........... (86)0891-63322444
Tech Fax............. (86)0891-63322444
Name Server.......... dns1.hichina.com
Name Server.......... dns2.hichina.com
Re:We're Asking the Wrong Question (Score:1, Informative)
This only works if you write to the record labels and tell them you think the RIAA sucks and that you're not going to purchase any of their products until they disassociated themselves from the RIAA! Just sitting in your backyard without any music isn't going to do anything to harm anyone...
The best way to get the message across is to pick one label, say Sony, and boycott that company in particular. Everybody writes letters to Sony, everybody stops buying music from Sony, everybody stops going to concerts of Sony artists (or goes carrying "RIAA sucks" banners), etc. Once Sony caves, you then pick another prominent RIAA member and do the same thing to them. Convincing artists to get in on the act can only help things out...
BTW, just because you're boycotting somebody doesn't mean you have to stop listening to the music! Feel free to listen to Linkin Park on the radio as much as you want! Hell, napster the entire disc then send a check for 8 bucks directly to the band... As long as the record label doesn't get any money, you're good to go!
Don't Buy Music From These Labels (Score:3, Informative)
I don't think you're quite getting it here... (Score:2, Informative)
And if someone gets away with banning porn... Jesus, they'd half to block half the fucking internet...
Re:But it won't stand, under DMCA (Score:2, Informative)
A service provider shall not be liable for monetary relief, or, except as provided in subsection ( j), for injunctive or other equitable relief,...
Section (j) allows for a blocking order.
( j) INJUNCTIONS.--The following rules shall apply in the case of any application for an injunction under section 502 against a service provider that is not subject to monetary remedies under this section:
(1) SCOPE OF RELIEF.--(A) With respect to conduct other than that which qualifies for the limitation on remedies set forth in subsection (a), the court may grant injunctive relief with respect to a service provider only in one or more of the following forms:
(i) An order restraining the service provider from providing access to infringing material or activity residing at a particular online site on the provider's system or network.
(ii) An order restraining the service provider from providing access to a subscriber or account holder of the service provider's system or network who is engaging in infringing activity and is identified in the order, by terminating the accounts of the subscriber or account holder that are specified in the order.
(iii) Such other injunctive relief as the court may consider necessary to prevent or restrain infringement of copyrighted material specified in the order of the court at a particular online location, if such relief is the least burdensome to the service provider among the forms of relief comparably effective for that purpose.
Re:Crappy music jokes aside (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Actually, what Al Gore invented was Spam. (Score:2, Informative)
I was lucky to get a university (SLIP) account because we had a high-school home page, at this time no one else was really out there.
Thank you Al Gore for Slashdot, and the many other good things we now have.
now that I think about it maybe the RIAA should sue Al...
User Agent Redirect on Listen4ever.com (Score:5, Informative)
Any IE derivative browser gets to listen4ever, anything else gets mp3mediaworld.com.
Thanks to Ethereal and Mozilla's customisable user-agent setting, I can now actually get to the site in Mozilla and turn off those squillion pop-ups.
Oh and a big thanks to the RIAA for letting us know about this site
Re:Deep Pockets and Deeper Affiliations (Score:5, Informative)
Funny though when I went to www.listen4ever.com/software.htm, there was no redirect.
I will try to mod you up some more if I can, to get more people to notice.
We need to support Candidates (Score:3, Informative)
He could sure use everyone's help.
Re:How are ISPs violating copyright? (Score:4, Informative)
Things to do about RIAA... (Score:5, Informative)
The number one thing you can do is to get them legally disbanded (discorporated).
The Government Giveth... The Government Can Damn Well Taketh Away.
The Recording Industry Association of America is a California Corporation, corporate number C1858372.
Contact CAlifornia Secretary of State Bill Jones, and request that their incorporation as a legal entity be terminated. Contact information follows...
Mail or in person:
California Secretary of State
1500 11th Street
Sacramento, California 95814
Public Contact Phone Numbers:
General Information - (916) 653-6814
Corporations Unit & Branch Offices - (916) 657-5448
Executive Office - (916) 653-7244
Legislative & Constituent Services - (916) 653-6774
Political Reform Division - (916) 653-6224
Email:
ConstituentAffairs@ss.ca.gov
PS: For good measure:
- Governor Gray Davis
- State Capitol Building
- Sacramento, CA 95814
- Phone: 916-445-2841
- Fax: 916-445-4633
- governor@governor.ca.gov
-- Terry
Re:User Agent Redirect on Listen4ever.com (Score:3, Informative)
Google is your friend.. but in cases like this, it's hard to find the right search terms... "user-agent mozilla" gets you close, but anyway, here's what you need.
Put this in a file called "user.js" in your profiles directory (it should be in the same directory as "prefs.js")
This will make IE-only sites believe that Mozilla is IE5.0
When you want to download a song, you need to right-click and "save link target as..." otherwise (in my case, anyway) mozilla will download the file and try and run it in your mp3 player without prompting you to save to disk.
free, legal alternatives (Score:2, Informative)
www.freemusic.cz [freemusic.cz](free as in free beer)
free.superhits.ch [superhits.ch](free as in free speach)
www.mp3-prod.org/ [mp3-prod.org](both free speach and beer)
there are many more similar sites, just look for "free music" with your favorite search engine.
ATTBI i Minnesota is block the site now (Score:2, Informative)
America the free, so long as you don't do anything that could possibly offend someone else.