The Two Towers Hits the Net

tfreport writes "The Drudge Report is reporting that The Two Towers has already began to be file swapped online. This is four months before the movie is set to debut! An executive in New York promised if this is indeed part of the film that they would be punishing anyone and everyone that downloads the film or distributes it to the full extent of the law."

Heh...

[NeuroManson]

They're going after everyone who *downloads* it? That's going to take some doing...

Either way, plainly put, the quality is going to suck, the movie is worth seeing no matter what, I'll just consider the alleged posting (if I find it) as an appetizer before watching it on a massive movie screen with full Dolby Digital surround...

If one followed the logic of the idiots in Hollyweird, anyone who ever read Tolkein is already in violation of their hush hush rules...

I mean come ON now, who here hasn't actually read the books by Tolkein? Bueller? Bueller? We know how the story goes, the movie is just a way to see how well the books can be fleshed out... Kind of like Cameron's Titanic (spoiler alert: The ship sinks)...

Re:Well...

[echophase]

They have a marketing campaign to follow, etc. It would probably hurt them more if they were to release it now.

Re:This isn't good

[gilesjuk]

What do you expect? the movie industry spends too much time and money building up to release dates with all the hype, advertising etc.. just release the damn film!

Umm

[ChrisJones]

I just looked on KaZaA, and tbh I don't see squat that could be TTT. Sure there are lots of dickheads pretending to have it, but you only have to hover the mouse over the file and it'll pop up with some meta information about the film, which in most cases says "Eight Legged Freaks" or "Spiderman".
I kinda get the feeling that Matt Drudge has been taken on a leeeeetle wild goose chase.
That is, unless anyone can reliably confirm that they have downloaded it and it is the real thing (something I seriously doubt, I would expect it to still be in post production at 4 months from release).

Re:In other news...

[Anonymous Coward]

This comment has been pirated.
It appears orinally on bbspot.com

http://www.bbspot.com/News/2002/05/spiderman2.ht ml

P2P is just technology, not good or bad...

[3seas]

But the real criminals are those responsible for initially putting it on the web.

And the fact of the matter is.....Most people won't download it and t ones that do
will only cause a spreading oif the word as to whether or not it's a good movie.

Hmmmm, how much money could be saved in mass marketing if replaced with the word of
mouth die hard big file swapers?

Re:Useless

[Anonymous Coward]

We already know such delcarations are not to be taken seriously. What will they do ? Sue 4,500,500 gnutella nodes ?

I know that's the perception, but reality can be a different thing. Whenever I've searched the Gnutella network for LOTR, there has never been more than about a dozon and a half hosts carrying film one. Relatively speaking, it would not be difficult for them to track down the people hosting the Twin Towers. Moreover, they probably have software monitoring the network to spot the first appearance of the file(s) in question - they may even be able to track down the perportrator. This threat might just not be hollow.

Already debunked. It's a fake

[Anonymous Coward]

The One Ring Net [theonering.net]

Rumour That TTT is on the Internet Appears False

The Drudge Report [drudgereport.com] has reported a rumour that
The Two Towers is already available on the internet. WinMX and Kazaa carry
several files purporting to be some version of the film, however they all
appear to be fakes. Thanks to Sir Mordred, Moses and several other Barliman's
chatters for helping me check these files out.

Re:Heh...

[Psiren]

I mean come ON now, who here hasn't actually read the books by Tolkein?

I haven't. I did try, several years ago, but really couldn't get into it. It seemed to me that Tolkien spent far too much time trying to set the scene, and not enough just telling the story. With a film I can see the scene, and only have to follow the story. Although to be honest, I didn't think much of that either, after seeing it. Guess I'm just not a fan.

Re:Useless

[koh]

You have a point, and this is getting interesting.

I've been using a gnutella servent on both win32 and linux platforms for a few months and there's an interesting phenomenon with the popular clients :

90% of the peers you see are "near" you (on the same continent).

In the case of gnutella (I don't know about edonkey et al. and I don't want to start a flamewar), the "web" design of the protocol has the client preferably store the most responsive (closest) hosts it encounters, so usually you don't find a japanese machine in your peer when you connect from europe (YMMV, tel me, I'm curious).

My point is, when you search for LOTR in your gnutella client from the US, you won't find my friend Marcel who just downloaded it in France. Maybe after a 8-day search, maybe not. Maybe he has already deleted/burnt it on CD anyway, so the only proof remaining is a few erroneous search hits to a dynamic IP that will be hard to trace/repress.

One it's here on the net, it's lost to them. Sorry Hollywood. Lower your prices. There are still guys like me that love going to the movies, but we grow tired. Oh, and ban cellphones too ;)

Re:This isn't good

[Anonymous Coward]

Hmm... I reckon the movie not being out yet is possibly a better reason for piracy than any other, as it could be argued that anybody downloading the file only wanted to watch it 4 months earlier (not an altogether unforgivable sin) and would watch it in the theater anyway.

The security cannot exist

[fuxoft]

The kind of security you are talking about is just not possible. Consider that if there are dubbed versions to be made (as i the case with LOTR2), several dozen countries all over the world have to receive the movie several months in advance. Of course, it's probably not with finished special effects and music but I presume this is the case with LOTR2 - I think it's not yet finished. The videotape is sitting in the dubbing studio where anyone from dozen employees can copy it. Multiply this by the number of countries and you have hundreds of people, most of which are movie fans and many of which have internet access.

I translated Episodes I and II for local release and I had them on tape several months before the U.S. release. Imagine the pressure when you cannot tell anyone. :)

You shouldn't waste your time downloading it

[Clue4All]

I watched it from start to finish last week, and was totally unimpressed. Maybe they'll pull together some nice finishing touches in editing, but the story has been weakened from the book dramatically, there are a lot of holes, and I really don't think that's something that a big screen and big sound can save. I guess we'll see.

It's real.

[ltwally]

It's available via KaZaA and dal.net (and proabably other services). It is broken up in to three seperate DiVX parts, each one ~180meg. I've already received the first two of three... and am watching even as i write this.

And, yes, they filmed them all at the same time... though they didn't do the production work (touch-ups, choose which scenes, special-effects, etc.) on all three at once. It appears that they have just recently either finished production on TTT, or have come near enough to have a darn good movie available to us leechers!

Re:Already debunked. It's a fake

[Anonymous Coward]

It's neither on isonews.com nor on vcdquality.com nor on any other more private sites that monitor the scene.

Simply a wrong report, fire the reporter, he obviously has no idea about what he's writing (p2p networks in this case)

Re:Umm

[Anonymous Coward]

There are a couple that look like The Real Thing (tm) that I'm currently downloading. Will get back to you...

Re:Already debunked. It's a fake

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm anon for a reason for this post.

I'm a multiple group member and SOp on a few of the largest movie chans on IRC and I can tell you this: no real version of TTT is circulating on topsites or internally on group sites.

The Spiderman and Star Wars DVD rips are real, as is the next season Sopranos advances, but TTT?

Fake. Drudge gets snookered again. Get a real source Matty boy.

"Rumour That TTT is on the Internet Appears False"

[Drogo Knotwise]

TORN [theonering.net] reports:

The

Drudge Report [drudgereport.com] has reported a rumour that The Two Towers is already available on the internet. WinMX and Kazaa carry several files purporting to be some version of the film, however they all appear to be fakes. Thanks to Sir Mordred, Moses and several other Barliman's chatters for helping me check these files out.

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SOME BASTARD GOT HEADLINES

[flogger]

The Two Towers is NOT on the net. I did a seraach on WInMX to grab the trailer to the movie to check out something. I was suprised when I saw "Two Towers 2002"

Well I did what any one would have done. I exclaimed, "Holy shit" and went to DL it.

Needless to say, I was in a long ass line. Well I went to find other sources and what did I get. Some Busty Asian porno movie.

Obviously someone is just renaming the movie to get us all in a tizzy.

(Why do I post this...? No one will read it, much less, moderate it)