Enterprise Season Premiere Tonight 391
l0key432 writes "Enterprise, Star Trek's fifth series, begins its second season on UPN tonight at 8pm/7pm central with the episode Shockwave Part II, airing just before the series premier of the new 'The Twilight Zone' show at 9pm/8pm central. Shockwave II is the conclusion to last season's season-ending cliff-hanger, and additional info can be found at this page(possible spoilers!) on StarTrek.com." Of course with my luck, it'll be pre-empted by some sporting event.
First season was lame, but TNG's was lamer. (Score:2, Insightful)
Tonight? (Score:4, Insightful)
So if you haven't seen it, someone else here probably has. So you don't want to read on if you want to avoid spoilers.
So essentially ... SPOILER ALERT(!!) for this whole story.
Re:Enterprise is boring, sorry it has to be said. (Score:2, Insightful)
Enterprise's problem (Score:5, Insightful)
It got off to a great start. The Broken Bow was easily the best of the Trek pilots.
So what's the problem? It almost seems as if the producers want Enteprise to ASPIRE to be as mediocre as Voyager was.
It's stuck in that "nothing can change week to week" mentality that Paramount has long imposed on Trek. Worse, it's not even particularly bad like Voyager was early on... it's just... there. More often then not, it's not good or bad. Just something I could care less about.
The Temporal Cold War is at least a step in the right direction, even if I think they've removed too much of the mystery from it. Compare "Future Guy's" appearance in the pilot to what it was in the finale. Initially, you couldn't tell anything about him and there was that cool distortion effect. Now, he looks like a guy dressed in stage black.
Sullick and Daniels are a little too black & white. I wished they could've pretened for more than a fraction of an episode that the Suliban might actually be the good guys. Or that there were no good guys in this fight.
But the fact that they have an continuing, if infrequently returned to, storyline is a positive step. Having *consistant* internal continuity is generally a good thing for a show. It's an incentive to watch, when done properly.
As it is, I generally don't care about Enterprise.
Enterprise's problem is TIME TRAVEL SUCKS (Score:4, Insightful)
Because they're ALL THE SAME EPISODE: crew encounters time wedgie. Crew solves time wedgie puzzle. Time returns to normal. Teenage son lies to a cute girl at school to impress her, but gets found out and learns an important lesson about honesty. Roll credits.
Jon Acheson
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Bizarre mods (Score:2, Insightful)
Hardly the most insightful comment ever, but certainly on topic.
Do you think Gene Roddenberry would like this show (Score:4, Insightful)
Sure, the showrunners bristled at Gene's humanist view and various objections to darker themes - but sure enough, since his death the franchise has continually become less-and-less "beloved."
There are so many elements that ignore Roddenberry's view in Enterprise that I wonder if it is the first show that is hardly "Star Trek" at all?
Re:I watched it as the lead-in to SU2. (Score:2, Insightful)
I don't think they were treated like slaves. Slaves were usually beaten into submission, along with other horrible human rights violations. I didn't see that on this episode. They had reasonable jobs that fit their intelligence, lived happily in their own communities, and didn't complain, even though they clearly had enough intelligence to be able to do that if they weren't happy.
That doesn't sound at all like slavery on earth. I certainly didn't hear the Menk singing "Wade in the Water"...
Not to mention I didn't see anything _forcing_ the Menk to work. They didn't have to, AFAIK. They just wanted to because they're all good hearted people on that planet. If only people could have this sort of co-existence here...
I simply saw a race of people whose intelligence has gone unnoticed. This isn't all that unusual -- even we do this with other animals (are dolphins smart? What would it take to convince you they are?).
>And imagine the difference in the world if Neanderthal's shared with Homo Sapiens the unfortunate tendencies towards genocide and prejudice.
The two races on the show were peacefully co-existing. There appeard to be no spite or malice towards the Menk, and this goes to prove that these races have no human reactions to such things as a lack of intelligence (most humans instinctually scorn this, and treat "stupid" people poorly).
>That's the danger with playing god: You end up being ethically responsible for the outcome.
The moment Phlox made the cure he became ethically responsible either way. It's a catch-22 -- do nothing, one race dies, and people blame it on you. Do something, and an unpredictable outcome happens.
"Rule-book" ethics in Star Trek (Score:3, Insightful)
What's amusing is that the end result of all this moralizing is the Prime Directive. Under that philosophy, the Federation is allowed to help a race provided that their civilization has crossed the arbitrary line of developing warp technology. If the race hasn't quite made it there, then it's just too damn bad for them. Post-warp civilizations' destiny is apparently impervious to interference.
It reminds me of the strict ethical codes that medical researchers must obey with respect to research animals. When performing experiments on a mouse, for instance, there are strict guidelines one must follow to insure that the animal is treated humanely. If that same mouse jumps off the table and runs out of the room, it immediately becomes "vermin", and you could pluck its legs off one at a time with impunity.
That's the type of "rule-book" ethics that Star Trek loves. It always irritates me the way Trek episodes always justify their characters actions and make them seem heroic-- there's a token amount of reget, but not enough to get them down. It always struck me that a lot of these episodes should really end with the main characters lying around in a drunken stupor and contemplating suicide.
Re:I watched it as the lead-in to SU2. (Score:3, Insightful)
This is a very nice way to put it. It doesn't quite capture my utter moral abhorrence of the episode's conclusion, though.
To me, the moral of the episode was "Because I disagree with these people's politics, they all deserve to die." And in particular, Phlox's dialogue about how the ruling race being genetically predisposed towards the disease that was killing them amounted to some kind of genetic destiny was utterly chilling. To me, it's the secular humanist equivalent of "God told me you have to die."
If I were Archer, I would have suspended Phlox's medical licence immediately, ordered him to give over the cure, and launched a court-martial inquiry back home to determine his ongoing fitness to practice medicine. (Practice it somewhere else, that is, because he would never practice medicine on my crew again.)
On the other hand, this is from the same franchise that put nurseries on warships, so expecting any kind of moral consciousness from them is probably an exercise in futility.
Jon Acheson
Why Enterprise is the best Star Trek Series (Score:2, Insightful)
The reason a lot of you probably don't like it is because it's different from the geeky Star Trek you know and love. This one is more humble, down to earth - more "Human" and contemporary. The technology is actually feasable, and I'm being introduced to the new races and themes. When I would watch Deep Space Nine or Voyager, I would be confused. There was just too much going on, and too much plot which requires you to already know something about Star Trek.
But in Enterprise, it is much more enjoyable. I am actually being introduced into the Star Trek universe just as the cast "Crew" are. And that's why I enjoy it, and continue to watch it.
Re:Viewing Enterprise in St Louis (Score:3, Insightful)