Dialtones - A Telesymphony 203
1337g writes "For once there's a use for those annoying ringing mobile phones during a concert. The entire Dialtones concert was performed by the ringing of the audience's mobile phones. The site shows how they pulled it off, and even gives a few samples of the concert."
Yeah, but did they play... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Yeah, but did they play... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Yeah, but did they play... (Score:4, Interesting)
Then again, like you said - local. I know in NJ, 17 miles away was a toll call. In GA, half the state is local to me.
I still remember the huge number of rumors as to what was on the other end of that number.
Re:Yeah, but did they play... (Score:2)
Re:Yeah, but did they play... (Score:4, Funny)
uhhh... Jenny?
Re:Yeah, but did they play... (Score:1)
Re:Yeah, but did they play... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Yeah, but did they play... (Score:2, Informative)
It was one of the early 'hits' that made MTV.
I paged my buddy with this number recently and it took him days to figure it out.
Re:Yeah, but did they play... (Score:2)
Re:Yeah, but did they play... (Score:1)
Re:Not cultural literacy but... (Score:2)
Got a lovely reminder of this yesterday in the dentist chair reminising with my hygenist about Bobby Charleton and the England squad of '66.
instructions how to rip the video stream tsarkon (Score:1, Informative)
You can download it (sorry its a Win32 ripping tool) with this:Streambox VCR v1.0 beta 3.1 http://www.afterdawn.com/software/audio_software/
A direct link to the download is here: http://dl2.afterdawn.com/StreamBox!VCR.zip 674 KB (689,180 bytes) [afterdawn.com]
And to get the video stream go here: rtsp://www.aec.at/symposium2001/Dialtones_fin12.r
Just an FYI, the music kind of sucks. Does anyone know what the fuck they were trying to play? It sounds like a bunch of crickets and crap. If I had to sit through this I would have died of boredom.
If anyone knows how to jack
Here is some information from the site regarding the ripping software:
Re:Yeah, but did they play... (Score:2)
I was there... (Score:5, Funny)
This behaviour has got to stop. Do what I did - walk out and demand your money back.
ring-a-ding-dong-dandy (Score:1)
Get with the times! (was Re:ring-a-ding-dong-dandy (Score:1)
We already have SPAM art and spam art... (Score:1)
Witness this Andy Warhol classic. [tigtail.org] Or how about this creative abuse of Google's search-term highlight facility? [google.com]
Or did you mean email [toegristle.com] spam? [mit.edu]
What's interesting is that these SPAM and spam art links are very similar in overall concept to the cellphone ringer art -- take some banal aspect of modern existance and extrapolate some artistic absurdity from it. I love it!
--JoeRe:ring-a-ding-dong-dandy (Score:1)
Sure, by installing different OS's, I'm learning a heck of a lot about computers (even if it is taking valuable time away from my engineering classes), but on the other hand, I bet these guys learned a heck of a lot by doing that, too.
To each his own, I say. If that sort of this is what makes 'em happy who cares if anyone else finds it interesting. Besides, I must admit that some of what I heard was pretty cool, even if it was coming out of a cell phone ringer, which I usually consider the most annoying thing on the planet.
Re:ring-a-ding-dong-dandy (Score:1)
I'd hate to add another layer of recursion, but this post about a post about a post of an interactive art piece isn't a shining example of effective time management either.
Then again, nobody is claiming that posting on /. is a productive use of time. It's leisure time... an opportunity to take a quick break from the drudgery of work.
While it's possible that /. users would otherwise be creating timeless masterpieces of cellphone art, I think it's more likely that they'd be "wasting" time some other way. Not that I consider leisure time a waste.
Does this mean that cell phones are welcomed...? (Score:1)
I wish they'd make cell phones with little bells in them, so they could sound like phones did 25 years ago. Those bells are much more pleasent than today's "chirp-chirp"!
Re:Does this mean that cell phones are welcomed... (Score:1)
What happens when a person listening has their cell phone go off, but it is set to vibrate?
Hey, they could use vibrate mode for the bass! ^o^
They should make a mobile phone with both a speaker and a transducer, one you could download .wav files to. If you want vibrate mode, use a .wav with nothing but low-frequency noise. If you want realistic-sounding bell tones, that would work, too.
How about it, Nokia?
Whoah...cool stuff (Score:3, Informative)
This is actual music. It contains actual melodic lines and stuff. Neat.
This is the first ... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:This is the first ... (Score:2)
thats all fine and good... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:thats all fine and good... (Score:1)
So, bring on the "music"! I bet this could be done on a streetcorner or something and it would freak some people out.
Irony? (Score:5, Funny)
"Shut up so I can hear the phone!"
Just wait a few years. (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Irony? (Score:1)
But seriously, there were some pretty weird-ass ring tones out there... Anyone else think that as they were listening?
If Phillip Reed gets his way... (Score:1, Interesting)
polyphonic versus monophonic (Score:1)
ah well. Technology 1: Audent 0
what happens if.....? (Score:4, Interesting)
Weird thoughts ebb and flow in a mind this empty.
Oh Man (Score:1)
Ahh the memories! (Score:5, Funny)
Each machine had and endless loop checking for the existance of a file representing a musical note on a network drive. When found, if assigned to play that note, the machine would play the note until the file disapeared. Each machine was assigned a note. Each note had more than one PC assigned to it around the lab.
We were able to entertain ourselves, as well as anyone walking through the lab, for at least an hour tinkering with the end resulting music.
-Pete
Re:Ahh the memories! (Score:3, Funny)
Of course we had a count down timer on them so we could get out of the class room and into the hall just in time to have them go off on 30+ machines... Then the teacher would have to reset each machine, great laughs for 15yr old computer geeks.
Re:Ahh the memories! (Score:1)
I used to plant this QBASIC program [spatula-city.org] in the labs at school and other unsuspecting machines. It fairly reasonably emulates a good ol' car alarm, and it manages to lock out Ctrl-Alt-Del.
This was even more fun, because the school had just bought a lab full of machines that had no reset button, and had a dual-stage power off (you had to hit a button on the side, and then the button on the front). Strange AT&T Pentium-60 machines.
--JoeRe:Ahh the memories! (Score:1)
It would if I hadn't used ON KEY to trap presses of the [Ctrl] key. Basically, when [Ctrl] is pressed, I go and quickly clear the corresponding modifier bit at location 0040:0017. The relevant code is here:
QBASIC is limited in what you can hook. Because the machines I was working on boot up with NumLock on, I trap variations of keypresses w/ NumLock set. So, you could get around my 'lock' by shutting off NumLock.
Another out is to press [Ctrl]-[Ctrl]-[Break]. (That is, press both [Ctrl] buttons on the keyboard.) But who would think of that? Sure it's "security by obscurity", but this is an obnoxious prank, not Fort Knox. And before someone remarks how crappy the code is, bear in mind three things: I hacked this up while a class was in session, I wrote this about 8 or 9 years ago, and QBASIC programs are inherently sucky. :-)
--JoeRe:Ahh the memories! (Score:2)
Re:Ahh the memories! (Score:2, Interesting)
Ah, memories. That was a nifty hack you did, though.
Re:Ahh the memories! (Score:1)
Re:Ahh the memories! You used BASIC!!??? (Score:2)
Sit down around my feet youngsters and let me tell yer a tale of REAL hacking.
My school's IBM 1130 [kaibab.org] (size of a large desk, power of a pocket calculator) put out so much RF that you could place a transistor radio (Remember those? Nope? Didn't think so) on top of the CPU and when certain combinations of i/o were run would play music from the radio.
he he he , good old days....
Re:Ahh the memories! You used BASIC!!??? (Score:2)
Did the IBM 1130 only play the [big] blues?
Distraction (Score:1)
Beepers? (Score:1)
What symphony? (Score:1)
Next time I'm in a lecture I'll try and appreciate the artistic quality of the phones. Though I suspect I'll have a hard time convincing the professor up the front.
controlled by linux (Score:1)
Re:controlled by linux (Score:1)
Sucks (Score:1)
EM (Score:1)
Hrm, guess we found another way to research cell phone induced cancer rates...
this is cool (Score:1, Interesting)
Stupid guy ruined it (Score:3, Funny)
- always
something!this was a while ago... (Score:3, Interesting)
The last time I checked... (Score:5, Funny)
It's actually highly realistic...if the owner of the phone continues to let the it ring for long enough, the sound of gunshots fired by disgruntled moviegoers is just like the sound of cannons being fired in the real song!
happy birthday tune. (Score:2, Interesting)
1121321121631196321332121
I once heard stair way to heaven on the phone - that was back in the day when blue boxing was still around and an exiting friday night meant being on a conference call with 30 other phreaks.
AOL owns you (Score:2)
Here's happy birthday [...]
Busted. That's a derivative work of a copyrighted song [cni.org] published by AOL [warnerchappell.com]. Go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
112=International Emergency Number (Score:1)
Might be a good idea not to try it while the phone is connected to the network.
Wow (Score:2)
Interesting but not worth attending IMO (Score:1)
Re:Interesting but not worth attending IMO (Score:1)
Hard to pull off (Score:1)
Makes you wonder if that transceiver wasn't giving everyone a brain tumor.
Question... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Question... (Score:3, Interesting)
Tim
Re:Question... (Score:2)
One of the performances was ruined. (Score:5, Funny)
I was in the audience and was enjoying quite a bit. However, some woman behind me kept playing her violin.
On top of that, the first few minutes of the performance caused a panic. Too many people switched their phones in vibrate mode upon entering the theatre (habit, I suppose). The resulting shockwave as the symphony began caused part of the building to collapse.
Slow day, huh? (Score:1)
a) no new Microsoft security holes
b) a freakin' cell phone concert?!?!
Too much bass? (Score:1)
Re:Too much bass? (Score:1)
I went and it was ruined... (Score:2)
BEEP! BEEP!-BAH! BEEP!-BEEP!-BEEP!-BEEP!-BEEP! bzzzz
This is cool (Score:5, Interesting)
This really is an excellent idea. One problem you have with electronic installations and concerts are things like sound spatialization. Some ways musicians combat this is to set up 12 channel sound systems with the speakers distributed around the entire hall so you can hear hear music moving around in a real 3D space, or they use projected speakers to pin-point sound into certain areas. But hey why use your own speakers when most the population carries a speaker in their pocket!
The performer would have known the phone number for every mobile in the hall, plus he would know the location of each phone. Just imagine a wave of dial tones moving across from one side of the hall to the other, sweeping up and down, pinpointing to one point in the hall, and then spreading out in a random spread across the hall. This really is cool. I wish I was there. You would probably have to experience something like this live to really appreciate it.
And for anyone who thinks this is weird, you need to get out more often. I have been to concerts where the audience were given bubble wrap, and the piece consisted of the audience popping it - oooh fun!
Reminds me of early Tangerine Dream (Score:1)
oh well there goes my night sleep...
Zombie tomorrow...
Saw something on this on Tech TV (Score:1, Troll)
i feel so much dumber for having seen something on it
Re:Saw something on this on Tech TV (Score:1)
bet they weren't using Sprint PCS (Score:1)
Kraftwerk would be jealous!! (Score:1)
Just imagine the fun they could have today
Natty
For every... (Score:1)
Speaking of the symphony...got a quick little story. I was at the symphony a few months ago in the best seats (other than Loge Boxes). Now I'm not an old guy - in my 20's - so I kind of snicker when I see these two older couples obviously snooping around, and sneaking into the seats next to my date and I. At intermission an usher comes over and kindly asks to see their tickets. It was hilarious seeing these 65+ year old couples, who were obviously loaded, get kicked out of the symphony like they were at some sporting event. Nothing left to do but hang your head in shame and drive home in your $100,000 Mercedes, I guess.
sounds familiar (Score:1, Interesting)
Pales to the Parking Lot Experiments (Score:5, Interesting)
A few years ago Flaming Lips frontman Wayne Cohen thought of the "Parking Lot Experiments" -- he created a symphony with each instrument recorded on a single tape. Then he had a group of forty people with cars that had tape players show up to his parking lot and he would "conduct" them.
Something similar could be found a few years later in the Lips' release of Zaireeka [allmusic.com] a 4-disc set that is meant to be played simultaneously.
At least that's what popped into my mind when I read this.
New form of torture (Score:1)
But, we really know they are all behind it... people giving out their cell phone numbers for a "concert", ha!
Did anyone tell them to expect a phone call for them to purchase magazines tomorrow, at dinner time?
What Would Charles Ives Do? (Score:1)
It would be cool to get some cell phones all with the same dial tune and try to make a round out of them. Polyphonic Telephonic?
It seems... (Score:3, Funny)
Dialtones? (Score:1)
Better yet, as a piece performed by ringtones, it could just be called a "ringpiece."
play some Cage! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:play some Cage! (Score:2, Interesting)
Recently there was a band that included a minute of silence on their CD, they have now been sued by Cage's publisher for unauthorized sampling. I kid you not.
Re:play some Cage! (Score:2)
Wow, really? Gee, it's not like it was posted on /. or anything. And you neglect to mention that the recording artist in question actually credited Cage as the composer but failed to provide any royalties. It was just asking for it.
This was actually pretty cool (Score:1)
That last bit with the amplified vibrating phone cracked me up, though. I kept getting visions of some kind of large animal..., possibly a rhinoceros. The connection to Saint-Saens "Carnival of the Animals" ("Carnival of the Cell Phones"?) is irresistable.
Anyway, I thought it was a pretty nifty idea. New art is nearly always interesting, if almost never lasting.
Dialtone copyright? (Score:2)
If this becomes amazingly popular, are they entitled to sue the creators for stealing music?
How long before other instrument makers start demanding performers pay royalties?
Digital mdeia is the quantum physics of law.
Xix.
Re:Dialtone copyright? (Score:1)
Copyright vioation !! (Score:2)
I hope that this guys realiase what they just did.
This is a flagrant violation of copyright. [magnus-opus.com]
I hope this sounded better live (Score:1)
It sounded like... a bunch of cell phones all ringing at once. The "solo performances" sounded a *little* better, just to be joined back up again by the mess of all the other noises again.
I just don't see what is special about making cell phones ring at the same time. Call me cultureless. Or something.
I was much more impressed by a live set someone did on a 980Khz Commodore 64 at Assembly '02. (You can get all the demos and videos of Asm'02 at scene.org)
Dot Matrix symphony (Score:2, Interesting)
Sounds a lot like the previously reported dot matrix symphony [slashdot.org] a while back. Interesting, but an acquired taste.
Ob Joke (Score:2, Funny)
She got kicked out 'cos she kept answering.
Re:Why? (Score:1)
Re:Why? (Score:3, Funny)
You've got to hand it to them. They actually found something *more* annoying than a ringing cell phone.
Re:Why? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Why? (Score:1)
Re:Why? (Score:1)
Seriously (Score:1)
Re:I can't believe this. (Score:1)
Simply because you do not appreciate the aesthetic value of something does not mean that it does not have any.
Don't get me wrong, I dislike both cell phones in inappropriate areas and SUV's, but simply because I do not like them does not make them bad.
Grow up.
Re:I can't believe this. (Score:1)
I agree -- there should be the equivalent of a 'cell phone damping field'. Essentially, any business has the right to shield their buildings so that no one gets reception at all within their boundaries. However, such a solution is costly and inflexible.
What would be really useful is a voluntary mechanism whereby phones are informed to not ring, or to automatically send calls to voice mail, etc. If the latter is done, the caller should be given the option to override in case of emergency, of course. Abuse of the 'emergency' mode could be considered similar to prank 911 calls. Such a system would be administered by cheap beacons placed onsite in locations where it matters. With GPS functionality (or at least pseudo GPS functionality) built into the newer phones, the beacon could even identify the exact areas on the premises where ringing is/is not allowed.
What's nice about such a system is that the "damping" could be turned on/off based on the present needs. For instance, during the day when rehearsals are going on, set construction is happening, etc. it may be useful to allow normal cellphone operation among the cast and work crews. At performance time, though, it's dampening time.
What do you guys think? Perhaps we should lobby for this to go into 3.5G? ;-)
--JoeRe:Concerts (Score:1)