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Raising Barriers to Entry into the Music Business 272

An anonymous reader writes "MP3newswire.net has an interesting commentary, inspired it seems by the woes of the Webcasting community. Basically they are saying that the RIAA is less concerned about piracy and more about the low barrier of entry into the online music business. For example, most slashdotters right now can start their own radio streams or distribute music files for next to nothing, just download the appropriate freeware and go. Through lawsuits and the DMCA the entertainment conglomerates are trying to make such acts much more expensive. So expensive that it is no longer affordable for the "average Joe" to trade or broadcast. The article makes a good argument on how the Internet has empowered individuals and artists to affordably express themselves online, and how a threatened record industry wants to stop that." Update: 10/20 6:55pm EST by C : More news from the webcasting front can be found in the article...

Rusty reports: "Friday afternoon, the RIAA and SoundExchange announced a temporary payment plan and fee reprieve for small webcasters while congress considers legislation.. Basically, by Monday, Oct 21st, small webcasters will need to pay a $500 a year minimum fee ($2500 max). While this rate still may be a problem for hobbyist webcasters, it is lower than the $2500-$6500 minimum that HR5469 called out.

From the RIAA's SoundExchange site:

"Any webcaster that qualifies as an 'eligible small webcaster' under H.R. 5469 will not be required to pay on October 20 the per performance (.0762 cents) royalties otherwise due under the Librarian of Congress' decision of July 8, 2002.

Instead, by October 21st, these eligible small webcasters may instead pay only the $500 annual minimum fee set by the Librarian of Congress for each year or portion thereof they have been in operation since 1998 (a maximum of $2500) until this Congress has had the opportunity to act on the pending legislation."
This still provides no relief for Live365, although their appeal hasn't been heard yet."

Ann Gabriel writes the following in response to Rusty's report from our last article on webcasting:

It appears that the message being sent to me in the response by SOMA FM's Rusty is that since HR 5469 does not directly affect me, I should sit quietly by and watch this travesty play itself out without saying anything.

What happened with HR 5469 directly affects EVERYONE is the webcasting community and to pretend otherwise is a joke.

There is nothing wrong with the fact that a group of people set out to negotiate a private deal for themselves intending to save themselves from the retroactive royalties that will come due on October 20, 2002.

But there is something horribly wrong with the FACT that what began as a private negotiation ended up being turned into a piece of legislation forced as a yolk around the necks of people who had no say in the matter.

I am tired of being asked as a member of the webcasting industry to accept something so horribly wrong just because some people think this deal was "the best they could get."

To sit by and accept the events that led up to the negotiations and the formation of the actual bill language is something I cannot do.

To me it would be like being invited over to lunch and expecting to eat Chicken Salad - and then being served Chicken S**t. There might be a large portion of the webcasting community who can stomach that, but I can't.

The RIAA never had any intention of dealing fairly, honestly and respectfully with the webcasting industry. Those that sat down privately to negotiate a deal for themselves did so in their own best interest and for their own individual reasons. I don't believe there was anything wrong with that.

But when the self-serving agenda of a few becomes something that is foisted upon the community as a whole, then I cannot, must not and will not stand by and accept such an American Injustice.

It is patently clear to me that the IWA and the VOW are separate organizations. To that end if you read my open letter carefully you will see that I point out the deal was NOT negotiated on behalf of the IWA and it's members, of which I was one until last week.

Just because people are claiming right now that HR 5469 in its present form will not really hurt the industry does not mean that is the truth. The only entity that HR 5469 helps is the RIAA and it is a sad truth that they care nothing about the industry they are destroying.

Ann Gabriel
Gabriel Media Inc.
Brian Hurley of Detroit Industrial also had his response to Rusty's words from that article.

In case you haven't had a chance, here's the latest article from The Register on the state of HR5469 as it was introduced to the Senate, earlier this week. And as a bit of a wrap up to this roller coaster week, this Reuter's article serves to provide a nice summary of the situation so far.
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Raising Barriers to Entry into the Music Business

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  • Well, DUH! (Score:5, Informative)

    by Verteiron ( 224042 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @02:46PM (#4490595) Homepage
    Anyone who's watched the actions of the RIAA over the past few years can see this. Everything they've done to "squash piracy" has also, incidentally, made it more difficult to distribute music. We've yet to see a single sign that they might be trying to adapt to a changing world; every move has been to stomp, stomp, STOMP out new distribution methods and technologies.

    The only good thing to come out of all this is that if they continue their currect practises, they'll render themselves irrelevant...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20, 2002 @02:52PM (#4490623)
    Ok. So this could be the "small business argument", if it is a decent way to make money, then it should be presented to the NFIB [nfib.com], America's most powerful small business lobbying organization.
  • by MBCook ( 132727 ) <foobarsoft@foobarsoft.com> on Sunday October 20, 2002 @02:55PM (#4490633) Homepage
    Well it's really too bad, because the internet is a great way for bands to find audiences. I can think of quite a few bands whose CDs I've bought who I never would have found if it wasn't for Napster/KaZaA/etc. Bands like Moxy Fruvous (a canadian group) I had never heard of. I think I MIGHT have heard one of their songs once. But really they get no radio play (at least that's what it seems like to me). I found them because of Napster, and now own every CD they've made because of it. A large chunk of my music collection came this way; because as it's been said, I can't afford to drop $20+ on a CD from a band I've never heard of. But if I go online, download a few of their songs, I can find out if it's worth it. If it is, I buy the CDs. If not, I ditch the files. It seems to me that more and more artists will start to hate the RIAA and come out against them. Prince (?) did this a little while ago, but hopefully the next artists to come out won't use "i sp34k no CAPS im srt-hnd for u and r smart at what 'dey speak." I don't know how many good points he made in what he came out with, I couldn't read past the 1st line without a major headache and thinking he was an idiot. I'm sure that's not true, I've seen interviews with him on TV, but anyone who types like that instantly looks like an idiot to me. I guess I'm really ramblin' here. So in summary: RIAA bad, internet good, trading good, l33t im srt-hnd bad.
  • by fortinbras47 ( 457756 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @03:07PM (#4490680)
    That opinion piece left me hanging in terms of what the bill ACTUALLY does. I think this link here [kurthanson.com] provides a bit more clarity and has links to other sites. The bill in the house was HR.5469

    Just glancing at stuff, a very disturbing aspect of the bill is that for an individual webcaster, it defines as "gross revenues" to include any revenue from media, entertainment, Internet or wireless business where the individual owns more than %5. I don't really know, if this is how it works, but if Joe Blow owns a computer consulting company doing wireless installs, (or hell has 5% of it), and he streams mp3s somewhere, does he have to pay licensing and royalty fees on the revenues of his business?!?!?!?

    Looks like Gephardt and some other Democrats opposed [house.gov] it.

  • Re:RIAA (Score:5, Informative)

    by The J Kid ( 266953 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @03:12PM (#4490699) Homepage Journal
    11 to 14 dollars....wow

    Here in holland it used to be 45 guilders and thus now 22 Euros...which in return is about 21,50 Dollars..

    And no, that's not because I live in some shitthole, but that's everywhere!
  • Re:RIAA (Score:5, Informative)

    by realgone ( 147744 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @03:19PM (#4490738)
    what hellhole do you people live in that CD's cost 18 dollars?
    New York City, baby -- hellhole to the stars.

    If I were to go to any of the major reatil outlets here and buy a regular CD (not on sale, not part of a specially reduced back catalog series), yes, it would cost me $17.99 or $18.99 pre-tax. Prices get a little better if you visit a more independently minded retailer [othermusic.com], but the selection sometimes suffers. (Stocked titles are often more ecletic, and if your idea of "eclectic" doesn't match the owner's idea of "eclectic", yer out of luck.)

    I wouldn't presume to say that the Big Apple is an accurate representation of the music market as a whole, but those prices the parent mentioned are indeed a reality for those of us in urban markets.

  • Re:RIAA (Score:2, Informative)

    by danimrich ( 584138 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @03:46PM (#4490831) Homepage Journal
    Yes, and that's not even the worst: If you're not into mainstream, you can pay as much as 25 Euros per CD (Austria).
  • by mrscorpio ( 265337 ) <twoheadedboy.stonepool@com> on Sunday October 20, 2002 @03:55PM (#4490862)
    I just hope that you realize that punk started in the USA with The Velvet Underground, the New York Dolls, Television, and Iggy and the Stooges...then Malcom ripped off Richard Hell, created Sid Vicious/The Sex Pistols, and thus began the commercial success of "punk", a bastardized version of what started in New York in the late 60's/early 70's.

    Chris
  • Re:RIAA (Score:3, Informative)

    by FattMattP ( 86246 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @04:02PM (#4490903) Homepage
    I loathe the RIAA etc. as much as the next geek, but what hellhole do you people live in that CD's cost 18 dollars?
    I guess a better question is where do you live that CDs are so cheap? The hellhole I live in is San Francisco and CDs are in the $16-$19 range. There are some small shops where you can get stuff cheaper. I've found the best thing to do is to buy used.
  • Re:RIAA (Score:3, Informative)

    by krinsh ( 94283 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @04:02PM (#4490904)
    Is that per artist at one store? Borders, or Wal-Mart? Walk into any FYE (or the stores formerly known as Disc Jockey, Camelot, etc. until they were all bought out by a giant media distribution conglomerate) and ALL the discs by new and popular artists range from $17 to $22. You used to be able to find discs at $9.99 to $11; now even those are all at least $13. I'm talking anything. Granted, cassettes are far far cheaper but the selection is not there and the store (at least all the ones I have visited and I live in WV, work in VA, get my kids from PA and shop sometimes in MD) WILL NOT order anything for you - or they'll claim they cannot find it in their system.
  • Re:Simple... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Gizzmonic ( 412910 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @04:08PM (#4490940) Homepage Journal
    I don't know about radio, but in the video/film industry there is a huge, artificial gap between "consumer" and "pro" equipment. For example, there are consumer DV cameras for $300 that have an integrated DV VTR. If you want a standalone DV deck, they start at $1200. Why is a standalone deck (without lens, CCDs, or any camera components) 4 times as much? Because the decks can convert from analog to digital...

    Even with things like microphones, the price seems to increase by 4x between the highest grade "consumer" item and the lowest grade "pro" item (sometimes the consumer item is actually HIGHER quality). The effect, whether intentional or not, is lifting the barrier of entry.

  • Re:non-RIAA music (Score:3, Informative)

    by bwt ( 68845 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @05:45PM (#4491408)
    there a quite a few Internet radio stations that don't broadcast RIAA music.

    Please, name some.

    Somebody below posted www.rantradio.com which plays non-RIAA industrial.
  • Re:RIAA (Score:4, Informative)

    by rodgerd ( 402 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @05:58PM (#4491465) Homepage
    8)

    Allow me to recommend perusing some of Moses Avalon's [mosesavalon.com] books, which spell out the whole deal in detail on how royalties are computed.

    Notable details include: if it's on CD, royalties are 75% because CDs are "new media". If it sells for 80% of full retail ($18) or less, you lose 50% because it's mid-tier (if it sells in bargain bins, you get nothing per unit). If it sells over the Internet, there's a 25% levy for a wire cost.
  • Re:What the hell? (Score:2, Informative)

    by trotski ( 592530 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @05:58PM (#4491467)
    If a CD was $18 Cdn (which most aren't where I live) that'd still be ~$12 US. In reality, the popular CDs tend to be around $12 - $15 Cdn. Which is far less than you pay, but is still overpriced as far as I'm concerned.

    When will you learn, things are cheaper in Canada!


    Some of what you say is true, for example automobiles are far cheeper in Canada than they are in the US. For example you can buy a Honda Civic for 18 grand CDN, whereas in the states it goes for around 15 grand. Obviously not inline with the exchange rate of 1.5 cdn to 1 usd...

    Unfortunatly, in Canada you'll be lucky to find a new artist for less that 20 dollars. As for old stuff, crappy stuff like the proclaimers or abba go for 15 dollars, whereas quality stuff like say the rolling stones can go for 25-30, and I have seen CDs for 40... all canadian dollars. The point is some things are cheeper in Canada, however CDs are more or less the same price.

    As I side note, remember when records were like 8 bucks? ;).
  • R.I.P. icecast (Score:2, Informative)

    by jodo ( 209027 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @06:05PM (#4491491)
    Last week before the new netbroadcast rules took effect there were easily >100 netcast choices at icecast. [icecast.org] There are now, as I look, 3 streams and 32 listeners.
    Sad.
    The little guys are knocked off.
  • by jbn-o ( 555068 ) <mail@digitalcitizen.info> on Sunday October 20, 2002 @06:14PM (#4491533) Homepage
    I was going to do a research paper on something similar, but I couldn't find enough scholarly writings on the topic. My paper was going to go through how the music industry and technology interface, and how the technology and contract laws give them large ownership of music, and how if they moved to a digital distribution model (which they could) it would violate their previous business model based on artificial scarcity and monopolistic competition.

    I don't know what books you have read but I urge you to read the following two books. I have thoroughly enjoyed reading them and I plan to re-read them as soon as my friends return my copies back to me:

    • Lawrence Lessig [stanford.edu], The Future of Ideas: The Fate of the Commons in a Connected World (ISBN 0375505784 and 0375726446)
    • Siva Vaidhyanathan [nyu.edu], Copyrights and Copywrongs: The Rise of Intellectual Property and How It Threatens Creativity (ISBN 0814788068)

    Around February 2003 you should be able to find Vaidhyanathan's new book The Anarchist in the Library (ISBN 0465089844) in hardcover. Given how approachable and clearly written Copyrights and Copywrongs is, I fully expect Anarchist in the Library to be worth everyone's while.

    Lessig's book is the more scholarly of the two, but that takes away nothing from Vaidhyanathan's excellent book. I would not hesitate to cite, quote, and paraphrase from both of them in any research paper.

    In case you're not familiar with Vaidhyanathan and Lessig check out Siva Vaidhyanathan's brief interview [slashdot.org] on Slashdot a while back. Lawrence Lessig's name might be more familiar as the lawyer who argued Eldred v. Ashcroft [eldred.cc] before the US Supreme Court on the side of Eric Eldred. Lessig has also done a Slashdot interview [slashdot.org].

  • Re:RIAA (Score:2, Informative)

    by NortWind ( 575520 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @06:27PM (#4491583)
    I like to get Cd's from CD Connection [cdconnection.com]. I've been ordering from them for over a decade, online since 1990. The prices are still high compared to the old vinyl albums, but lower than the prices you quote.
  • Re:Simple... (Score:2, Informative)

    by tato (and tato only) ( 525054 ) <ejohns&ix,netcom,com> on Sunday October 20, 2002 @06:29PM (#4491588) Homepage
    Actually, CRAP imposes onerous record-keeping requirements on all webcasters, even ones who do not use RIAA-controlled material. Additionally, all webcasters are required to pay a minimum of $500 (US) per year, even if they use only their own material.
    I believe that if I were to webcast only myself talking into a microphone I would have to pay $500 per year to the RIAA and keep records of who listened for how long. This does seriously hinder the distribution of material outside the control of the RIAA, even when done with the permission of the creator.
  • Re:Freeware?? (Score:3, Informative)

    by MattCohn.com ( 555899 ) on Sunday October 20, 2002 @08:03PM (#4491983)
    Nullsoft [nullsoft.com] maker of the popular Winamp [winamp.com] software is also maker of the Shoutcast [shoutcast.com] streaming media server. It works with all copies of Winamp, iTunes, and a handfull of other players. It is efficient, configurable, and availible for Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP, Mac OS X, FreeBSD, Linux, and Solaris. Besides that, you reach that huge market share which refuses to use the bloatware that is RealPlayer [attrition.org]. It works by running on a machine connected to the internet, and then you can connect to it with the ShoutCast Source plugin availible for Winamp availible here [shoutcast.com]. You can do this eather from a dedicated computer, or the same one running the server. You choose wether you want to stream whatever Winamp is playing, or if you have another input you can choose to use the soundcard. How I am streaming MY online station is a program called QuicPix [omt.net] made by the same people who do the wonderful iMediaTouch automation system [omt.net] going out the soundcard, into a mixer with a CD player and microphone, and then going back into the same computer where winamp sends it to Shoutcast ALSO running on the same computer.
  • Re:non-RIAA music (Score:2, Informative)

    by IPM Macross ( 614698 ) on Monday October 21, 2002 @10:06AM (#4494964) Homepage
    IPM Radio (www.ipmradio.com)

    AudioTek Live (www.detroitelectronica.com)

    Murknet (www.murknet.com)

    Actually, it would take all day for me to list them all. (everything from avante garde to zydeco is out there streaming from somewhere.)

    We don't have the flashiest web sites or tens of thousands of listeners, but I assure you, non-RIAA music stations are out here.

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