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Review: Solaris 451

Solaris was one of several movies to hit the theaters this Thanksgiving weekend, and it won't be the most successful. The 1961 sci-fi novel has also been the source material for a 1972 film. There are numerous reviews - far more for Solaris than Die Another Day, suggesting that the critics were hopeful (Salon, NY Times), or maybe just tired of Bond, James Bond. I saw DAD as well this weekend, and my capsule review is simple: it sucked, the Bond franchise has definitely jumped the shark (two words: invisible car). But Solaris is worth a few more words.

Lem's novel is a really good work of sci-fi, not light reading but worth the effort to comprehend. The new Solaris movie is only 90-odd minutes long, and at that it's too long.

Comparisons will be made to 2001 and Apocalypse Now, two other slow-moving, philosophical movies. The problem is that both of those movies actually had interesting things to say, and managed to keep the viewer's attention despite being slow-paced. Solaris is simply slow. Long sections of the movie have no dialog and no background sounds whatsoever. When there is background music, it lacks the classical majesty of 2001 and is actually a bit annoying. These flaws might be forgivable if we were truly interested in the plot, but we aren't: it's a trivial love story, told many times before. (Most of the interesting parts of Lem's book have been sliced away to leave only the love tale, and the sci-fi twist is not enough to save it, IMHO.) I found myself nodding off during parts of the movie.

A couple of the reviews I read didn't quite grasp what was going on, especially the end. I found it quite clear and straightforward: the movie gives you plenty of clues so there shouldn't be any doubt left in your mind when the credits roll. Admittedly I approached the film with substantial knowledge about the book, but... it should have been clear to anyone.

Overall: it's pretty. The effects are well-done, at least you aren't short-changed there. As far as sci-fi movies go, it isn't bad - there have been so many worse sci-fi movies that I'll take whatever I can get. And at least they had the decency to make it short; if this movie were 2.5 hours long instead of 1.5, it would be intolerable. I'd recommend it to sci-fi fans. I'm not sure I'd recommend it for non-fans, however; if you want a love story, go see Ghost or something.

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  • Slightly Offtopic (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Ricky M. Waite ( 544756 ) on Sunday December 01, 2002 @06:40PM (#4789489) Homepage
    But what is the correct way to pronounce Solaris (as in Sun's OS)? I always said the 'a' like 'hair'...but on the previews for this they said it like 'car.' Just me wondering if I've been pronouncing Solaris wrong all this time. :)
  • Shocking.... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by MortisUmbra ( 569191 ) on Sunday December 01, 2002 @06:40PM (#4789495)
    another review from Micheal thatis not only completely contradictory to the status quo but also completely off-base. I think HE is the one who didn't grasp what was going on there. The movie isn't for everyone, but if you care to be engaged by a movie in several ways (either by passively just following it, or actually trying to figure it out as you go, and see the underlying meanings and goings-on) it's certainly worth the extended 1.5 hour toture you will certainly bear with this horrid piece of trash that oh I guess isn't so bad after all and beats watching Mission to Mars.... Dude, did it suck, and was it not worth the money, or was it ok, and you should go see it? Saying "ooooh it was so boring and I nearly passed out several times, and the plot was pointless and shallow" then going "yeah but its better than most sci-fi films and you should probably maybe not oughta kinda watch it" doesn't exactly give a good reccomendation one way or the other. AHHHHH I'm just pissed tomorrow is Monday.
  • Re:Invisible Car?! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by CanadaDave ( 544515 ) on Sunday December 01, 2002 @06:41PM (#4789497) Homepage
    The invisible car thing would actually work with current technology, only using today's technology it would be far too expensive. For the same reason that large-area solar cells are too expensive. But as soon as large-area electronics becomes a reality, than you'll be able to pattern circuits onto anything. So technically it would be possible to pattern Bond's entire car with pixels. Each pixel would be comprised of a 3-layer RGB light sensor, and a active LCD pixel, or better yet, an orgranic LED. This could all be deposited on a plastic skin (which I think Bond had) or directly onto the siding of the car. The tricky part would be the software. But with some fancy software and some interpolation, it could easily be done. Even the windows of the car could have these sensors on them, and still appear transparent (or tinted, whatever). The tricky part would be the wheels. But you could just put covers over the wheels, so that part was pretty fake.
  • Die Another Day (Score:2, Interesting)

    by masterkool ( 550633 ) <masterkool@hotmail.com> on Sunday December 01, 2002 @06:47PM (#4789535) Homepage
    Just to make some comments on DAD:

    Too many typical Bond puns. I.E. Villian: [holding sword] "I'll get to the point"

    Gadgets you know Bond should allready have. Sure back in the day it was cool to see what new toy Bond was going to get, but we allready have seen it all. There were few suprises in that department.

    The only cool gadget: The Invisible Car. Nice concept, cameras on each side project incoming image on the opposite pannel.

    The Plot: Evil guy makes big gadget to take earth hostage...Bond shoots some guys & has lots of sex...Bond allmost dies...Bond saves world

    Still some sweet explosions/gunfights.

    Bond movies have allways been great, but there's just no more anticipation of whats going to happen or what Bond is going to do. Its just too predictable.

  • by tylernt ( 581794 ) on Sunday December 01, 2002 @06:55PM (#4789582)

    We have the technology today! Flexible LCDs are a reality [macworld.com]. The tech used in the movie is entirely reasonable and practical: cameras shoot a picture from one side of the car and project the image on the other side.

    When Q (Cleese) walked around it on that first shot, you saw his legs get huge and flash by as he walked in front of one of the cameras. That was the touch that made it beleivable.

    You'd be better off making fun of some of the other stupid things in the movie, such as the entire driving-around-in-the-melting-ice-palace sequence.

  • Re:Invisible Car?! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by CanadaDave ( 544515 ) on Sunday December 01, 2002 @06:57PM (#4789589) Homepage
    I think the key is that the object that you want to make invisible has to be thin. Then you avoid the "not working at different angles" problem. So that is one reason that Bond's car was kind of fake.

    Since we already thinking along the lines of expensive (or 10 years away technology), it would be easy to have an infrared detector which would detect the prescence of a body. Assuming it's a human body, the software could use that to determine what to display, so that it looks "proper" from the persons' viewpoint.

    Another problem I didn't mention in the original post is that there would be so many electrical lines on the circuit that you'd need to use polysilicon to help do some multiplexing, and stuff like that. This technology is decently advanced right now, but to make an invisible Bond car I'd say at least another 5 years.

    But the cost will be enormous for 10 years at least. And no one will want it, so demand will be rock-bottom, which means even more expensive...

  • Saw it, liked it (Score:2, Interesting)

    by hackwrench ( 573697 ) <hackwrench@hotmail.com> on Sunday December 01, 2002 @07:02PM (#4789621) Homepage Journal
    but it's all about what existance is, and some people say it's weirder than 'The Sixth Sense' and is kind of like 'Vanilla Sky' (which I haven't seen.
  • B+ Film (Score:3, Interesting)

    by victorchall ( 169769 ) on Sunday December 01, 2002 @07:27PM (#4789744)
    I agree the love story was distracting, but the movie was still good. I have no idea how the reviewer thought there were such long quiet pauses when 2001 had at least four times more lack of sound. I've seen both movies (and even 2010) within the past 3 days. Hey, HBO free preview weekend.

    Even with the distracting love story, the end really resolves well and doesn't play too hard on the leads' relationship. I guess it should have been used more as a device.

    Overall, it was a good "theme" movie (as opposed to 99.5% of movies, which fall into the "plot/action" category) along the lines of Magnolia or American Beauty. I walked away with a few interesting questions and mixed feelings.
  • by TomHandy ( 578620 ) <tomhandy AT gmail DOT com> on Sunday December 01, 2002 @07:42PM (#4789819)
    Hrmm....these viewers that were bored and panned it....would they by any chance be the same viewers that absolutely loved "Dude, Where's My Car?" and gave that movie enough business for them to do a sequel (aptly called "Seriously, Dude, Where's My Car?")?

    It's incredible to me how obsessed people are with stating that the movie must be bad because the average filmgoer doesn't get it or is bored by it. Have these people seen what passes for a "hit" movie these days?

    -Tom

  • Re:wtf (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Monkelectric ( 546685 ) <[moc.cirtceleknom] [ta] [todhsals]> on Sunday December 01, 2002 @07:55PM (#4789881)
    This guy is way off base ... Solaris wasn't great but it wasn't bad either. It needed a little more meat on the plot but it wasn't bad.

    Some portions of the score were fantastic to. there was a montage with an amazing sountrack --it was based on electromagnetic recordings from deep space (I haven't read this from anywhere, but I have heard NASA recordings of deep space and there is no mistaking them).

    This version of solaris is really about the changing perception of the universe to the main character -- although they tread pretty lightly on that theme. If you want to see a well executed movie with a neat soundtrack that will make you think just a little bit but not quite enough, go see Solaris.

  • by reality-bytes ( 119275 ) on Sunday December 01, 2002 @07:58PM (#4789898) Homepage
    In a recent UK documentary on the making of Die Another Day the producer of the film explained that the Invisible Vanquish was an extrusion of the idea of adaptive camoflage systems that both America and Britain are developing.

    The Car in the bond film is a bit of fantasy loosely based on reality.

    Adaptive Camoflage is designed to be fitted to the Reactive Armour plates on modern tanks using liquid crystal or simmilar technology. The system can be used in the case of a prepared position where the tank commander walks say 100 feet downrange prior to the tank being positioned, takes a digital photo of the position and then moves the tank into place.
    The picture is then used to 'paint' the plates on the vehicle to resemble the area the vehicle was moved into so an enemy unit approaching from a distance will find it hard to visually aquire the tank.

    This system can also be used to 'best-guess' the colours required when stopping in the battlefield (albeit without jumping out for the snapshot). For example; a tank could stop half in front of a building and hedge and be 'painted' in the colours of the building & hedge.
    This only works against an enemy unit approaching from one direction and even then would only work from several hundred meters away (unless the enemy approached in a straight line directly toward the tank).

    This system will likely be implemented and refined over time but a vehicle which could appear 'invisible' under close inspection is rather far-fetched and something very much based in Science-Fiction
  • by CleverNickName ( 129189 ) <wil&wilwheaton,net> on Sunday December 01, 2002 @08:06PM (#4789941) Homepage Journal
    I must respectfully disagree with Michael on this one.

    James Bond films have always reflected the times in which they were made, for better (1960's) or worse (1970s-80s).

    Right now, an invisible car is just what you'd expect from a Bond picture, IMHO.

    If we needed a reason to dislike DAD, look no further than the TERRIBLE visual effects.
  • Re:Bond, James Bond. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Maxime Lefrancois ( 627966 ) on Sunday December 01, 2002 @08:15PM (#4789978)
    1. James Bond films don't need reviewing. Everyone knows exactly what they're going to get ... explosions, nasty baddies, Bond being cool, gadgets and girls.
    What you say ?

    40 years of cinematic history down the toilet in favor of bright flashes and loud bangs. Since XXX is a Bond wannabe, that makes Die Another Day a second generation knock-off. What's missing from this movie? Any real sense that we're watching 007 rather than a generic spy in a tuxedo.

    For Die Another Day, some elements of the Bond formula are intact: the cool gadgets (including an invisible car, a glass-shattering ring, and an ice speeder), the attractive women (although, at least in the case of Jinx, she's more of a partner/rival than a mere love interest), the globe-trotting (from North Korea to Hong Kong to Havana to London to Iceland), and the martinis (shaken, not stirred). The villain, Graves, and his henchman, Zao, are unmemorable, and their inevitable comeuppances are hardly the kind of moments to get audiences cheering.

    The opening theme is dreadful. It's a Madonna pop tune, not a Bond song, and its lack of musical consistency strikes a dissonant chord. (And, as "payment" for providing such an awful piece of music, Madonna gets to "act" in a cameo, which, unfortunately, allows her to speak a few lines of dialogue.) David Arnold's score, which makes liberal use of the "James Bond Theme," seems okay, although most of it is drowned out by the explosions.

    Director Lee Tamahori (Once Were Warriors, The Edge) may be to blame. Even though this anniversary movie supposedly contains something from each of the previous 19 outings (many of which appear as props in Q's lab), one gets the sense that Tamahori either doesn't understand Bond or has miscalculated the nature of his appeal. It's not enough to throw all of the Bond elements together and hope that they somehow work. A little more precision and craftsmanship are necessary (and a better script wouldn't have hurt things). Let's hope this represents an aberrance, not a trend.

    If there's one thing to recognize, it's that a single bad outing will not succeed where Blofeld and dozens of other maniacs have failed. Whether played by Pierce Brosnan or someone else, James Bond will return. Let's just hope that when he does, he's the 007 we have come to love and admire, not the impostor that inhabits Die Another Day.

    © 2002 James Berardinelli [colossus.net]
  • by Elwood P Dowd ( 16933 ) <judgmentalist@gmail.com> on Sunday December 01, 2002 @08:36PM (#4790090) Journal
    I liked it a lot. I think it's totally worth watching, for fans of complex movies from all genres. It has a number of shortcomings, and you might not decide that it's a great movie, but it's worth seeing just to watch where they fail.

    There are a number of aspects that are absolutely fantastic. The exposition is very very well done. Stanislaw Lem fans, Soderberg fans, and hell, even Clooney fans will be happy with the exposition, even though it's the slowest part of the movie. That's my biggest confusion w/ this review - the slow parts were the best parts of the movie. I almost wished they just skipped the plot. Clooney 'n' the scientists' acting were so excellent that I wish they just played with character all movie long.

    The whole movie deviates from the novel in big ways. In the beginning, Lem fans will accept those changes, because they were good decisions. The end, unfortunately, is full of bad decisions.

    The end of the movie was very disappointing for me. I'm not the kind of person that feels a movie needs some Usual Suspects style reversal in order to be interesting or witty. If it's well orchestrated, and the movie is lightweight in the first place, then it can be nice. Here, it felt cheap. I wanted a hard answer. They didn't deliver. Still, scenes like Clooney sitting in the library leaving a message to coordinate a meeting... that made it all worth while.
  • Re:Event Horizon (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Huge Pi Removal ( 188591 ) <oliver+slashdot@watershed.co.uk> on Sunday December 01, 2002 @08:45PM (#4790124) Homepage

    OK, I'll forgo modding other comments in this article to reply...

    by far the most effective use of sound for a horror movie that I've ever experienced

    • 2001: the use of silence when the camera is in a vacuum. Genius. No-one has ever done it since (AFAIK), as it's just not clichéd enough. But it's definitely the most effective use of 'sound' I've ever come across.
    • The Shining (sorry, Kubrick again): Bartok's "Music for Strings, Percussion and Celeste". Way, way better and more frightening than Event Horizon.

    And to stay vaguely on-topic, I can't imagine any film of Solaris getting within the same *universe* as Tarkovsky's original, let alone touching it. Although I do remember despairing when the University sci-fi society showed it, and just fast forwarded through the 'boring bits' of it. Aarrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...


  • Re:wtf (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01, 2002 @09:08PM (#4790209)
    The sound was awesome, the score was okay. (At least I was not annoyed.)

    The sound did sound like those NASA recordings at times. It was appropriately eerie and unsettling, a lot like the sound in Lynch film. What Soderberg did though was amazing. He gave structure to the sound, so that in the crescendo at the climax of the film, all had been prefigured--if you were listening. It is one of the best sound designs I've heard in quite some time.

  • by 21mhz ( 443080 ) on Sunday December 01, 2002 @09:10PM (#4790225) Journal
    I'd especially like to know if the car ride from Solyaris where you see a car driving through tunnels for 10 minutes without anything happening.

    I'm afraid, timing standards of an average sci-fi flick don't apply to Tarkovsky.
    Then, in 1972 (especially for a Russian viewer), this probably could express dehumanization and solitude of the technological world. It's kind of ironic that seeing a car driving through an endless urbanistic maze makes an average modern viewer think "hey, nothing worth mentioning is going there".
  • Re:Bond, James Bond. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by cybrpnk2 ( 579066 ) on Sunday December 01, 2002 @09:18PM (#4790254) Homepage
    Hey, I thought Die Another Day was a very respectable addition to the Bond franchise. I enjoyed it and may go see it again. Pierce does a great job as Bond, not as good as Sean The Ultimate, but much better than the rest of the pack of wanna-bes. The plot, the locales, the bad guys, the set pieces, the girls - all great. A little weak on the gizmos, too much reliance on just the invisible car to cover the gizmo angle, but hey, that was cool too. The sword fight and the fight on the jet as it's falling apart were especially good. Maybe I was enjoying the popcorn too much and not thinking it through as the movie unfolded, but I was actually surprised by the resolution of the traitor angle as well as the true ID of the main bad guy, so I gotta say there was a pretty good surprise factor in it for me, too. Nice to see Bond behind the power curve and on his own for a while, too - that was actually the one angle of Bond that Timothy did well in one of his films. They're trying to set Halley up with her own franchise as Jinx and considering how commercial and crass such a thing COULD have been, they did a pretty good job of that too. Overall, I give DAD an 8 out of 10. If ytou haven't seen it, you should.
  • by Stoutlimb ( 143245 ) on Sunday December 01, 2002 @09:59PM (#4790388)
    I just came home from watching Solaris, and here's what I have to say about it.

    To me, it seemed like the kind of movie that humanity will appreiciate more a long time from now, when we're much more mature as a race. This movie is deep, it stimulates us to think about what we really are as humans. Most of the people I know aren't used to anything beyond the depth of "Die Another Day." Maybe that's why the reviewer mentioned that movie as a contrast. There's some deep intellectual stuff going on in this movie, and all the quiet times are there for the viewer to reflect and think.

    If you're not used to thinking, then this movie definately will suck for you. I thought it was well worth the price. Go, make up your own mind, and if it sucks for you, ask for your money back. They'll usually give it.

    (my $0.03 CDN)
  • by twitter ( 104583 ) on Sunday December 01, 2002 @11:34PM (#4790760) Homepage Journal
    Did I really just rant like an idiot about one line of text in a bad movie? :(

    Yes, Seth, you did.

    Event Horison was a fun movie, which tried to touch on the themes Solaris covers; fear, loss, lack of communication, regret, and perception versus reality. The science is hokey but Solaris was no better and Event Horizon moved at a good pace, had plenty of great lines and excellent effects. How could you forget other lines like, "You don't need eyes to see where we are going."? Awsome. To make things really good, it had gotten dark, and the sky was full of heat lightning when we came out. God has the best shows.

    Please do rent Event Horizon and record the lines you like and post them.

    In any case, I expect great things from Sodenberg. His insight is penetrating and he's not afraid to amuse his audience with it.

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