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Superbowl XXXVII 927

So, if you're a good, patriotic American, you're certainly watching the Superbowl right about now. The dot-com ads should be pretty much absent this year, but perhaps there will be something more interesting than ads for recycled movies. Maybe even the game will be worth watching. :) Update: 01/27 17:02 GMT by T : Chardish writes "If you didn't catch the trailer for The Matrix: Reloaded on the Superbowl last night, it's now available for download."
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Superbowl XXXVII

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  • hmmm... (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26, 2003 @08:06PM (#5164173)
    I believe I would need to own a "tele-vision" in order to watch this "super bowl", yes? Or can I get it on a web page?

    Ahh, well, being a loser like me has its advantages: you don't feel compelled to watch sweaty black men feel each other's asses trying to get their hands on a funny little ball.

    On the other other hand, we don't get a lot of pussy. So there's a trade-off here...
  • by Rob Kaper ( 5960 ) on Sunday January 26, 2003 @08:21PM (#5164269) Homepage
    Watching it in the Netherlands and it looks like the commercials here (at least the once so far, half-time might be different although I doubt we'll get the American ads) are the worst ever. People explicitely put effort into making them look like cheap Powerpoint presentations.

    Game itself is not so exciting yet, had more fun during the World Series.
  • by frob2600 ( 309047 ) on Sunday January 26, 2003 @08:24PM (#5164292)
    I realized a long time ago that Americans are expected to watch the superbowl just as much as we expect Mexicans to eat beans. Not being offensive or anything here but this is the sterotype. I hate football even though I possess a y chromosome. It may be because I am short or it may be because the game is just stupid. But that is besides the point... because I don't want to watch the game I am not a true American Male. I must be either gay or a terrorist (I am neither).

    This is one year that I don't mind being unpatriotic. When we start associating patriotism with supporting war -- count me out. But this is not the only reason I don't care about how people think of guys who don't watch sports. The main reason is that I have better things to do with my life than worry about what other people think. Besides that, it would be more painful to watch the freaking game than to deal with explaining why I don't watch it. And lastly... the type of people I would watch it with don't really make-up the type of people I like to hang out with.

    Three hours talking trash with trailer-trash; no thanks.
  • by DesScorp ( 410532 ) on Sunday January 26, 2003 @08:28PM (#5164318) Journal
    "...and lots of violence"

    If you're referring to the game itself as being violent, it often is. If you were trying to sound cool by quoting John Lennon in order to condemn American Football, I'd pick another person if I were you. Lennon quite enjoyed our game, going so far as joining Howard Cossell in the booth for Monday Night Football one time. He was impressed with the whole spectacle of it all, and didn't seem to mind the rough aspect of the game.
  • Re:No. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Dark Lord Seth ( 584963 ) on Sunday January 26, 2003 @08:41PM (#5164389) Journal

    I do not need to fight nor to die to "do" what I believe in.

    Think about that one...

  • by Alan Partridge ( 516639 ) on Sunday January 26, 2003 @09:03PM (#5164478) Journal
    I'm sure that 100% DID vote for Saddam, as his was the only name on the ballot. In Europe we are very angry with the US' hypocricy over Iraq - we all know that Saddam is evil and should be removed, we all know that Ariel Sharon is a maniac and should be removed, we just don't understand why the Americans keep trying to justify their war with a UN resolution, when the US couldn't give a damn about the UN or any kind of international law. In six months time we'll likely have seen the back of Saddam at the hands of the US/UK armed forces - thence to see another Saddam installed in his stead, but with BP, Exxon and Shell pulling the strings. It's all very sad, and a little diplomacy could have got the whole free world on side.
  • by lucasw ( 303536 ) <`gro.sulucci' `ta' `wsacul'> on Sunday January 26, 2003 @10:16PM (#5164760) Homepage Journal
    That the Partnership for a Drug Free America hired?
    Are tax dollars paying for this garbage?

    This is the organization that last year told us bald-faced that buying any illicit substance is tantamount to buying plane tickets and box cutters for terrorists.

    Recently, their ads have shown that 1/3 of all marijuana use results in shooting a friend in the face, running over kids on bikes, rape, or (slightly more realistically) arrest. Replace weed with alcohol and the commercials make a lot more sense.

    This time, for the Superbowl, 'Drugs pay for Terrible Things'- a man on a subway is confronted by murdered innocents that died indirectly because of his casual drug use. I guess I shouldn't give the pizza boy a tip, or any money to anybody ever- because somewhere down the line it might be used for buying drugs and cause the deaths of untold people and it'll be COMPLETELY MY FAULT. It would be great to live in a world were I could know for certain that my spent money will never be used for something disagreeable to me, or unlawful, but it's not going to happen- the best thing is not to pay suspect organizations and individuals directly, but I can't guarantee everyone who meets my criteria will share my good judgement in their own purchases.

    Cluelessness is not an anti-drug...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26, 2003 @10:19PM (#5164769)
    Bands change over time, especially when they get big. That's a given. Indie rock poseurs bitch about such things. Maybe I'm one of them.

    For a few moments, it looked like things were going to rock. The first few notes were all that was necessary for the audience to recognize "Just a Girl" and get jumping. An "aww yeah," drifted over the dorm. Then things turned sour.

    It was just saddening to watch and listen as Gwen and the guys performed "Just a Girl" totally lacking the punk energy that made the group so intoxicating. The song's climaxes were sung down an interval, and the band, already paired down to a backup power-trio, just couldn't make up for it. The goth-punk clad cheerleaders that took the stage just made the scene more depressing.

    When I think of No Doubt, I like to remember their SoCal ska-punk sound uniting audiences in a skanking, moshing frenzy. I like to remember a brass line wailing out the choice licks, accompanying a rhythm section of musicians all flexing their stylistic muscles in different directions.

    Still, let's hear it for a band who's been around the block and back, and has made a lot of good music in the process. And here's hoping they never use cheerleaders again.
  • by serenarae ( 154753 ) on Sunday January 26, 2003 @10:21PM (#5164781) Journal
    that was the most hillarious commercial so far. this game is depressing. i'm not routing for any side (although I would have been much happier had the eagles won last week).
    SO right now i'm doing my part as an american college student. sitting in the dorms with everyone else getting drunk and smoking. horrah.

    (on an added note: these anti-drug commercials are getting rediculous. all you could hear when those went on was "bullshit". cmon america, get with it.)
  • Re:Matrix Trailer (Score:2, Interesting)

    by infinitey ( 263683 ) on Sunday January 26, 2003 @10:29PM (#5164813)
    Anyone else think they've gone too Star Wars with the visual effects? *sigh*

    Terminator 2 was balanced, The Matrix as well. But it looks like this time the Wachowski's may have gotten lazy. Maybe at 23, I'm too old to accept action scenes that are almost entirely rendered with computers. =(
  • by antdude ( 79039 ) on Sunday January 26, 2003 @10:34PM (#5164829) Homepage Journal
    Super Bowl Commercials [superbowl-ads.com].

    Super Bowl commercials with animals [usatoday.com].
  • Re:First post! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Blkdeath ( 530393 ) on Monday January 27, 2003 @12:06AM (#5165125) Homepage
    Cos I hate football! (thus I'm not busy watching the game)

    Do you hate football, or televised pro football?

    I've been reading a lot of generalized anti-sports comments, much of which comes from people who are badmouthing/bandishing stereotypes about. What is this, thw Twilight Zone? Nerds hating sports IS a stereotype, people!

    Myself, I love "football" (the American variety) and football (the "world" variety). I used to be a mean linebacker in school; took out guys twice my weight all the time ("Was that a legal tackle?" they'd mumble through the blood on their faces.. Heh..) and could kick the ball into the stratosphere. Later, I developed an affinity for football (Americans will recognize it as "soccer"); played for a former world cup champion, no less!

    I was a goal tender until my eyesight became prohibitive. I also used to love getting down and dirty. I ran fast like a mo'fucker, and I could slide tackle a guy at ten yards and walk away with the ball.

    Eyesight failing, I took up smoking, and running fast was no longer an option. But while I was in shape, I had a bloody ball - and I had my own home LAN at the same time. An XT and a 286 joined with a null-modem cable (paralell, for the extra speed) comprised my BBS and file server. A 286 laptop with a mono screen for reading mail and scripting the BBS.

    Sure, I had a shitty time in elementary school; so did a lot of people. I got through it and found my passion in life. A lot of people can't make that claim; including a lot of the popular kids, the jocks, and any number of other stereotypes. Periodically I'll revisit my old classmates while they're serving me fries (with gravy, please).

    So if you people are scorned over being called a "nerd" or a "geek" (titles I wear proudly today, because they allow me to demand a high rate of pay and respect from clients and co-workers alike), get over it. Life's a bitch. Being young can, and often does suck. That's what growing up is about - learning how to deal with things, including society.

    As for the game, no, I won't be watching it. The baseball strike was the last straw for me as far as pro sports are concerned (I did love the Jays going it two years in a row, and Brazillia over Italy in the World Cup was beyond amazing). But you won't find me sitting here bitching about it.

    Maybe some of you couch-potato whiners should get to a world cup, gray cup, stanley cup, world series or superbowl party some time and see what a blast social interaction can be. Then knock it, but wait until the hangover's gone first. (If you don't have one, you weren't at the right party)

  • Re:It's very simple! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Goldberg's Pants ( 139800 ) on Monday January 27, 2003 @02:22AM (#5165681) Journal
    The commercials during the Superbowl have one thing going for them... They ain't re-runs! The majority are new commercials. It's a rare televisual moment. A broadcast you can sit down and watch and not be bombarded by ads you've seen a couple of hundred times already. As a movie geek, were it not for the lure of The Matrix, Hulk etc... I probably wouldn't have bothered watching. Having satellite in Canada means no stupid Canadian ads inserted over the top.

    As for protesting the war for oil... Couldn't agree more.
  • by fenix down ( 206580 ) on Monday January 27, 2003 @03:43AM (#5165889)
    Babies? Not really. First off, they get paid so damn much because they bring in a dozen times that much for their employers. And usually they don't get paid anywhere close to that. The millions are for Michael Jordan, and whoever else got famous in sports since I stopped paying attention in the 80s. The rest get taken care of, but they're also guarenteed to lose their job before they're 40. Plus, they've got to pay for all the massive health problems they're gonna get as a result of their play. Football especially. You ever see a 50 year old pro lineman? More surgery than a cancer support group, about as mobile as Ozzy Osbourne, and probably gonna die any minuite. 300 pound guys exerting themselves beyond where you'd pass out on the floor in 80-degree heat? Christ. They're already sweating during the national anthem for fuck's sake. You won't hear me bitching about sports sallaries. I don't buy $100 tickets either, but I'm not about to bitch that I'm getting paid less to sit at a desk than some fat guy is to telescope his spine into some guy's head.

    Then again, how much do soldiers get paid for their lifelong trauma and chance at death these days?
  • by MegaHamsterX ( 635632 ) on Monday January 27, 2003 @05:01AM (#5166146)
    Soccer tends to be something Americans play in school and grow out of. It doesn't strike a chord with most of us. I do watch it though.

    As far as scale goes, I don't really think Americans care that most of the world doesn't watch it. What is important is that most Americans watch the superbowl for one reason or the other.

    Nobody cares about the stupid super bowl except the US-Americans.

    Care to back that statement, it seems to be a pretty concrete one. I know I can refute it.
  • by MillionthMonkey ( 240664 ) on Monday January 27, 2003 @06:21AM (#5166296)
    Ya, those Al-Qaeda members in Afghanistan didn't deserve it. Bush was just bullying them. Neither did the Taliban, Bush was just being too arrogant there.

    Oh stop being ridiculous. Have you seriously heard anyone (besides Chomskyites) complaining about the war in Afghanistan?
    I only have three complaints about the way we've handled Afghanistan:
    • The Bush Administration shouldn't have showered the Taliban with forty million dollars (this was pre-9/11) as a reward for their ban on poppy production, as if they did it to help our stupid War on Drugs and not because they were fundamentalist assholes
    • We should have spent more time chasing Bin Laden, instead of running after his cellphone
    • The installation of a puppet government that controls a few city blocks in Kabul does not mean it's time to run off looking for other, more fun, wars

    You'd think Bush would've learned by now...but nope. He wants to bomb an insane murderous dictator. The guy only tortures anyone he doesn't like, gasses his own people, and attacks neighboring countries the first chance he gets.
    • The "gassing his own people" was done in 1988, and the Elder Bush Administration's behavior in the intervening years between 1988 and 1991 suggests that we aren't as shocked about this as we pretend to be.
    • The last time he attacked a neighboring country, there was a war, remember? We kicked his ass for this already. Now you're using the same attack as a pretext for another war?
    • There are approximately 100 countries on the planet headed by people who "torture anyone they don't like." Entire continents are under the control of people like that. Many of them are our allies.

    What'll he do next? Go after North Korea's Kim Jong Il? I mean, what has that guy ever done? Starving to death millions of his people, and brutually torture, imprison, and execute hundreds of thousands more. How dare Bush call that guy "evil". It ruins dialouge between our nations.

    Ha! I wish the Bush Administration would go after North Korea! Instead we quietly acknowledged NK as a nuclear power and dropped the issue, while still focusing on the "evil" and "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq. Saddam might have a couple barrels of VX stashed somewhere, but Kim Jong Il is starting a nuclear weapons program right in our faces! Where is our reaction to that? Is mere consistency too much to ask for? Does demanding a logical foreign policy mean I'm unpatriotic? The Bush Administration's unprepared, incoherent, and contradictory behavior toward North Korea in the past several weeks has no doubt convinced them that we're a nation led by distractible pussies. They've probably been waiting years to restart that reactor, hoping that a president with a one-track mind like this one would come along.

    Its rantings like yours ruin integrity for any peace movements. Trying to paint Bush as a terrible person while completely ignoring these evil governments who torture and murder millions is simply ignorant and ridiculous.

    It's not unreasonable to hold the President of the United States to a much higher standard than a Third World dictator. I'm sure the president can hold a C-average in a class with the likes of Hussein and Kim Jong Il, but that's an absurdly low expectation.
    And the question isn't whether "Bush is a terrible person" anyway. It isn't about whether "Saddam Hussein is a terrible person" either! What everyone wants to know is, what is the justification for war? Why is it being sold to us so strongly? (If you think this is really about "weapons of mass destruction"- a marketing term if there ever was one- you're as stupid as they figured you'd be.) Why are we starting an optional war? What is the reason for it?

  • by majestynine ( 605494 ) on Monday January 27, 2003 @06:55AM (#5166379)
    During WWII, the United States Office of Price Administration printed a great deal of propaganda meant to encourage the American public to support the war effort by conserving resources. Much of this propaganda centers on the idea that even the smallest failure (not carpooling, for example) directly helps the enemy.

    This poster, created in 1943 by Weimer Pursell, depicts a well-to-do man riding in his 1940s convertible alone, save for a ghostly visage of Hitler riding next to him. The text, "When you ride ALONE you ride with Hitler!" is emblazoned above him, while below reads, "Join a Car-Sharing Club TODAY!" The effect today, in peacetime, is rather amusing.

    An image of the poster can be found at:

    http://www.archives.gov/exhibit_hall/powers_of_per suasion/use_it_up/images_html/ride_with_hitler.htm l [archives.gov]
  • by kubrick ( 27291 ) on Monday January 27, 2003 @09:18AM (#5166789)
    Do you know how many people died to bring you your entertainment?

  • Re:Yeah I'm sure... (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 27, 2003 @12:49PM (#5167879)
    I like to go to slashdot to feel at home...

    Truly a sad statement. You really should get out more and find more hobbies.

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