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Battlestar Galactica to Return 496

Chris Curtin writes "Looks like SciFi channel is redoing the classic series! I don't know about a female Starbuck but it might be interesting." I can't picture a Galactica without Lorne Green. So long as they don't bring back that stupid robot dog, it might be okay.
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:14AM (#5413105)
    Since there has never been one with anyone by that name.

    The one with Lorne Greene [imdb.com] was enjoyable though.
  • by spineboy ( 22918 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:15AM (#5413108) Journal
    As long as they use their one special effect (launching the fighters out of the tube) at least 30 times an episode, I'll be happy.

    No, really.
    • One of my strongest memories of Battlestar Gallactica is that they used the same special effects clips all the time. In particular, there's one shooting sequence from the good-guy's shooter perspective, where he shoots about a dozen times in an arcing pattern, finally hitting and blowing up the bad guy. They used that one all the time. Ahhh, memories.
      • Re:special effects (Score:5, Interesting)

        by ConceptJunkie ( 24823 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @12:56PM (#5413523) Homepage Journal
        Not only was that effect used over and over BG, but also in a really awful Z-grade BG-ripoff movie called "Space Mutiny" riffed ever-so-eloquently by Mystery Science Theater 3000.

        Sick individual that I am, I actually rented "Space Mutiny" to watch it in its unmitigated awfulness. Picture a space opera filmed almost entirely in an abandoned factory of some sort, and a couple of drop-ceiling offices with surplus late-80's office computer equipment, with costumes consisting almost entirely of lycra.

        However, it does feature Cissy Cameron in all her middle-aged-waitressy glory dressed like Denise Austin in "Thin Thighs in 30 Days" the musical, by Andrew Lloyd Webber.

        Punt Speedchunk!
        Big McLarge Huge!

        • by GuyMannDude ( 574364 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @02:05PM (#5413833) Journal

          Not only was that effect used over and over BG, but also in a really awful Z-grade BG-ripoff movie called "Space Mutiny" riffed ever-so-eloquently by Mystery Science Theater 3000.

          What was even funnier is that they used the shot of launching fighters as though there were launching MISSILES at the "space pirates" (whose ships bear a striking resemblance to cylon battleships). You can clearly see that those are fighters being launched, yet the plot claims they are missles. The "battle" lasts about 5 seconds (no exaguration here!) after which they quickly jump to some already-seen footage of the bridge crew partying!

          Sick individual that I am, I actually rented "Space Mutiny" to watch it in its unmitigated awfulness. Picture a space opera filmed almost entirely in an abandoned factory of some sort, and a couple of drop-ceiling offices with surplus late-80's office computer equipment, with costumes consisting almost entirely of lycra.

          Whenever I think of Space Mutiny the words "railing kill" spring to mind! Pretty much every single person who dies in this movie does so by falling off the railings in the factory that is supposed to be the engine room of their ship!

          This is one of the best MST3K episodes ever and you can download it off of KaZaA. The commander looks exactly like Santa Claus, a woman gets killed and then is clearly visible in the background of the next scene, the hero demonsrates his courage by setting his disabled opponent on fire, and the climactic chase scene at the end with in those rediculous golfcart buggies must be seen to be believed. Do yourself a favor and download it today! Best. MST3K. Ever.

          GMD

  • by __aapbgd5977 ( 124658 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:19AM (#5413127)
    That's like re-doing Barberella with Ben Affleck in the title role.

    I mean, Starbuck was the womanizer - the fighter pilot stereotype. I can see writing female pilots to play off the stereotype, or rewriting some of the tremendously shallow female characters of the show (Athena, Cassiopaea), but Starbuck?

    Worse/Better Analogy: It's like remaking the A-Team with J-Lo as Face. (March 1 is "Let's Pick on Dirk Benedict Day")

    ---
    • by The Ape With No Name ( 213531 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:26AM (#5413166) Homepage
      I mean, Starbuck was the womanizer - the fighter pilot stereotype.

      So why can't a woman do this? I think America is ready for a kick-ass lesbian who drags her scores back to the cave for some hot stuff.
      • Then why did Cleopatra 2525 [tripod.com] fail, where Baywatch [baywatch.com] succeeded?
        • Because Baywatch got the "relax, turn your brain off, and just cruise" thing right, whereas Cleopatra 2525 couldn't decide if it wanted to be blonde or not. (Blonde defined for this purpose as "needs instructions on breathing".)

          Sometimes it's not just the muscles-and-bimbos thing, it's the atmosphere. Baywatch was a success for the same reason The Fall Guy and The Dukes of Hazzard were successes. The formula was much like drinking a relaxing beer after work. It's no mystery to me why such series do best if given the Friday night slots, when everyone is sick of their 40 hour work week and just wants to vegetate for a while. Hell, I watched 'em myself, mainly for that reason -- they were relaxing and undemanding, without being completely dull. Crap TV if analyzed for content, but great for unwinding at the end of the workweek.

        • Errr...because Cleopatra 2525 was the worst TV ever made? (yes, even Baywatch had better storylines and more beliveable acting!)
      • They have enough problems with people hating the current rewrite of the cript, and you want to add another character twist?
    • I mean, Starbuck was the womanizer - the fighter pilot stereotype.

      Hey, this is the 21st century. Nothing has to change. What is wrong with a lesbian fighter pilot?

      Hell, considering that their target demographic is geek guy, that would do more for the ratings than anything else they could come up with.

    • I'm all for a female Starbuck, so long as she too is a womanizer. (Yes, I have the typical fantasies of a straight male.)
    • Sorry... Bad wordplay puns are a reflexive reaction.
  • It's a Dagit (Score:3, Informative)

    by voice of unreason ( 231784 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:19AM (#5413129)
    Actually, that annoying thing was a dagit [tvacres.com]
  • by GMontag ( 42283 ) <gmontag AT guymontag DOT com> on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:20AM (#5413133) Homepage Journal
    I can't picture a Galactica without Loren Green.

    Well now we have Lauren Green [foxnews.com], I can stand to watch her all day!

    Also, I hope the wardrobe departments continue the Science Fiction media tradition, tighter clothes and less of them on the chicks please. Stop underestimating slutty so much and PLEASE higher heels!
  • by b-baggins ( 610215 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:21AM (#5413139) Journal
    I guess the fact that the Cylons couldn't hit a planet at 500 feet was the only things that kept the humans alive.
  • robot dogs (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anvil the Ninja ( 38143 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:21AM (#5413143)
    I hope Sony doesn't pay for Aibo product placement.
  • Great Show.... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Kong99 ( 618393 )
    Kick ass space ships, evil robots, cool guys, and Hot Chicks! What more good a 12yo boy ask for!! :)
  • by youngerpants ( 255314 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:25AM (#5413161)
    The fact that a production companys creativity has dried up so much that they have to remake a mediocre sci-fi program (and spend all the money on special effects no doubt) is very sad.

    I would imagine that every year there will be thousands media graduates and new creative writers coming onto the market who would love to have a pop at a large scale production like this.

    Either; the big companies are so scared at taking a risk that they just tart-up the same old crap, or all these new brains on the market are not up to the job (unlikley)

    when something slightly new and fresh comes along in this niche marketplace (e.g. Farscape) the public lap it up (until it gets cancelled)

    These people need to remember how to take risks
    • You missed one. The average person would rather watch a formulated, farmiliar plot over and over, rather than have to think about something new. Same script, different setting, jumble the characters around, and boom! Instant hit. That's why there's been a vulcan on every star trek so far (Data==Vulcan), save DS9, and they had to bring in characters from TNG to offset this.
    • by MacAndrew ( 463832 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @12:35PM (#5413429) Homepage
      That SciFi would be spinning out a 25 y.o. retread when they have fresh, creative series like Farscape is pathetic. They're wary of anything new, perhaps because one flop can end an executive's career. It is a system designed to smother creativity. Remember that the original Star Trek was almost a 2-season job, then limped to 3.

      A friend and I were just discussing BG as a golden example of old hokey TV. What's next, a Fantasy Island remake?

      Anyway, I wouldn't blame the production companies that pitch new ideas and are shot down, but the lumbering networks that choose the same formula over and over. Perhaps too one should look at the advertisers. So many acclaimed series are coming out of a private network I don't subscribe to (HBO) that something is going on here. (Sopranos, Band of Brothers, Six Feet Under, Sex In The City, etc. Quick, name equivalent ad-driven TV creations.)

      And then, there's always the audience. ST:DS9 was the only one of the modern series to attempt a serious departure from formula, and was not widely accepted by audiences looking for, I suppose, the comfort food of the old style. (It looks like Enterprise is twitching for something new; we'll see if it works; but I'd rather flesh out a whole new universe in the uneven but ingenious Farscape.)

      Did I mention I'm pissed at SciFi for dropping Farscape? [savefarscape.com] :) I'm seriously considering boycotting the whole damn network for promoting crap like "Crossing Over With John Edward" in preference to new, innovative series, Stargate being the exception. But should be blame them for reaching for the easy buck? I don't know.
    • I liked Battlestar Galactica, mainly because the technology/tactics were internally consistent. I got into the whole universe a bit too much, though, because several weeks after I got a warrior jacket, I was explaining to my fourth grade teacher that "frack" was not a curse word. Unfortunately, you can't go very far as a story when you are running away to some distant destination all the time (...cough cough Voyager), and the show just got worse and worse until it basically fell apart quite horribly by the time they reached Earth. I watched "The return of Starbuck" during the last marathon and almost gagged. It's hard to find science fiction that sucks more than that.

      I never could get into farscape. It's one thing to have flawed characters, quite another to have a bickering band of characters so self-absorbed and just generally pissy that you can't sympathize with any one of them for more than a scene.

  • by dlleigh ( 313922 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:27AM (#5413172)
    The real question is, will the new version have all of the thinly disguised mormon doctrine like the original did?

    See http://www.proaxis.com/~sherlockfam/art5.html [proaxis.com] or http://home.earthlink.net/~billotto/Mormon_N_BSG.h tml [earthlink.net] or http://www.lib.msu.edu/lorenze1/bg.htm [msu.edu]
    or anywhere else you can google up from "battlestar galactica" and "mormon" [google.com].
    • Interesting. I thought the show just suffered from biblical analogies taken a bit too far. Still maybe that's what Mormonism is. Hmm,

      Mormonism: religion -> science fiction
      Scientology: science fiction -> religion
      • There is a line of thought which says that The Book of Mormon was originally written as a fantasy novel. And indeed, it is structurally identical to The Worm Ouroboros. In that era of publishing, it was not acceptable for your characters to be *directly* shown as having fantastic adventures. But it WAS acceptable to have a mysterious person or being arrive in the middle of the night and tell a narrator (the author) about those adventures, and have the narrator relay the tale to the Dear Readers.

        In the Book of Mormon, the angel Moroni fulfills this "mysterious being" slot, with Joseph Smith being the "narrator" (author).

        [Tho in The Worm Ouroboros, after a couple chapters the author forgets to use the "narrator" convention, so the rest of the book is written in the "direct" mode of modern fiction.]

        [disclaimer: I'm not a Mormon, and in Montana was on their local blacklist, because when those nice young missionary boys came to the door, I'd drag out my annotated Book of Mormon and ARGUE with them, using their own source materials. Yep, there were advantages to growing up with a Mormon landlord after all!!]

    • Glen Larson belongs to the same -- I forget what the Mormons call their local church units -- as a friend who is big into SF, and they've talked about it, so I heard about it that way. In fact, Larson got in trouble with the church elders for "revealing secrets" in BG that gentiles (what Mormons call non-Mormons) aren't supposed to know.

  • by nedron ( 5294 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:29AM (#5413179) Homepage
    Unfortunately, this sn't looking good, since Ronald D. Moore is the writer and executive producer. He's been associateed with some of the lamest television and movies made in the last 15 years. Does anyone remember the lamentable "Star Trek: Generations", or the teenploitation opus "Roswell"?

    I really wish they had gone with Richard Hatch's proposed series.

    Of course, the new Galactica series will be perfect for Moore, since he like to "reimagine" (read screw up) things, like Trek.
    • by RylandDotNet ( 81067 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:39AM (#5413234) Homepage
      I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until I actually see the series. If you go by track record, J. Michael Straczynski [imdb.com] should never have been able to do Babylon 5 - before that, his big projects were Murder, She Wrote and Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future, but Babylon 5 was an awesome show.
      • The problem is there is enough information out to know that it is going to suck. Moore did a lot of rewriting, and turned the series into a social propaganda engine. I post a lot more in another comment. Look for it.
    • You should do more research before you post.

      Yes, Moore was involved with the lamentable Star Trek Generations screenplay - but that film was ultimately Berman and Braga's baby (Braga co-wrote the screenplay), with predictably lame results. Moore has been responsible for much of the *best* of modern Trek, including writing or co-writing TNG episodes like "Yesterday's Enterprise", "Sins of the Father", "First Contact", "Family", the "Redemption" 2-parter, "Tapestry" and the series closer "All Good Things". On DS9, he wrote or co-wrote episodes like "Our Man Bashir", "Trials and Tribble-ations", "In the Cards", "The Die is Cast", and "Soldiers of the Empire". Hardly a poor record, especially considering how many shows he was banging out a season. He also helped come up with the story and write the screenplay for the most successful Trek movie in ages, First Contact.

      If you want to see someone screw up a series, look at Berman and Braga. Trek's ratings have been spiraling downward ever since they achieved their death grip on the show, and even their movies (Nemesis) flop.

      Quite frankly, I don't see how you could make Battlestar Galactica much worse than it already was. Dirk Benedict was the only good thing about the show, and even he was just doing a credible Harrison Ford impersonation.

  • They have run out new ideas for TV programs already, in less than 100years, now all we have to look forward to are more re-runs of the same old (paid for) shows all because TV companies won't take risks on new material.

    There are millions of talented writers,authors,actors,musicians etc etc all hungry for the chance at getting their work out to the public and yet TV firms still keep re-using the same old stock formulas/actors until we become sick of them

    Oh how far we have travelled in 100years of TV/Cinema when even kids are sick to death of old reruns

    Is there no ambition or willingness left in the television/film business to create new and inspiring shows/stories that people will replay in generations to come as examples of pioneering work ?

    if todays television is anything to go by i guess not

    • Is there no ambition or willingness left in the television/film business to create new and inspiring shows/stories that people will replay in generations to come as examples of pioneering work ?

      No.

      Move to a city and see some theater. That is where the original stories are.
  • Bring the ragtag fugitive fleet back! Just keep the psy stuff out of it. Make it SciFi not Fantasy.

    Me and my bro had all of the toys. We had the Vipers that actually shot the missile. YEAH! Of course with in a day we had lost them!

  • by uberdood ( 154108 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:36AM (#5413217) Homepage
    Let's review:

    1. Cancel Farscape because of money.
    2. Run non-SF crap like Crossing over and Dream
    Team (and soon Scare Tactics).
    2. Spend tons of money on Spielberg to do Taken.
    3. Spend tons of money on a show that was NEVER
    any good (Battlestar Galactica).

    I'll be boycotting BSG like I did Taken.
    Anyone remember when MTV played music videos? Same thing is happening with SciFi. At some point seing actual science fiction will be a rare oddity on SciFi.
    • Anyone remember when MTV played music videos? Same thing is happening with SciFi. At some point seing actual science fiction will be a rare oddity on SciFi.

      Anyone remember when MTV, Inc. made a TON of money and began to branch out with their flagship brand into stuff besides music videos but also started multiple other cable channels to actually show music videos? At some point, seeing actual science fiction will be a rare oddity on SciFi, but hopefully by attracting more viewers and more advertisers with 'phony' scifi, they will be able to subsidize the production of REAL scifi to be published on other channels...hopefully.

  • by Dr. Spork ( 142693 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:38AM (#5413228)
    Godddamn it! This is going to be such crap! This year we cancelled what was looking to be the best sci-fi show ever. Unless we are totally stupid, which we apparently are, our first priority should be figuring out a place that will pick up that show.
  • For me it won't be the same because Maren Jensen won't be there as Athena - it wasn't a major role in the series - but I went to high school with her so the series had a different slant for me ;-)

  • by jmccay ( 70985 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:40AM (#5413235) Journal
    This news is at least a year old! This is the 25th Year Anniversary of the original series. This is just a mini-series. This is going to suck! Nobody likes what they have done. There are SEVERAL petitions to stop [battlestargalactica.com] this from airing! The fans and Richard Hatch (Appolo from the series) have been trying to get a continuation of the original series. Richard Hatch has written 4 books [barnesandnoble.com] continuing the saga. This site [battlestargalactica.com] is a great place to get the information on the new mini series [battlestargalactica.com].
    Where to start. There is no more 12 colonies on 12 planets. There is 12 colonies on 1 planet. The cylons weren't created a reptilian race. The cylons were created by the humans to fight each other. All the characters are pale shadows of themselves. Anything that made them look and act like a hero is gone. Starbuck & Boomer are both now woman. Mr. Moore turned this once great show into a social propaganda engine. Don't expect this to be anything like the original because he is basing this on the the original Battlestar Galactica movie which was the first few episodes of the show and does have a lot of the character development.
    • by crawling_chaos ( 23007 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @12:02PM (#5413319) Homepage
      Whoa buddy... Try breathing into a paper bag, you're about to hyperventilate. I have a recommendation for you. There's a switch on the television marked "Power" try setting it to the "off" position during the airing of the mini-series.

      Here we are about to go to war and people have their undies in a knot over a television show. Maybe George Bush is representative of the American intellect.

    • I forgot to mention Baltar is not the betray of humanity on purpose. In this he's seduced by a female cylon robot who looks like a human. Oh yah, the cylons look like humans.
      Don't expect you child to be able to watch this show. The original show could have been watch by people of all ages! This is aimed more for the 18 - 25 range, if I remember the articles correctly, with more sexual content than in the past. I won't recomend you let you kids watch this.
      The sci-fi channel has been censoring any post on the quality of leadership from Bonnie (head of Sci-fi channel)--i.e. the complaints raised by the massive non-scifi content.
    • Well, crap. Last I read, they were considering those changes, but now it's official. Crap.

      I'm too young to remember the show from when it first appeared, but I watched the reruns as a child and, despite the comically overused footage, loved the show. Heck, the was even willing to tolerate Muffit the daggit.
    • Hear, hear! The only reason Galactica is popular enough now for them to consider it in the first place was due to the original cast, most of whom are still alive, and (including the late John Colicos) appeared in the Galactica Second Coming trailer that Richard Hatch put together on credit card money and volunteer special effects. He's shown it at various conventions...I've seen it. It's an amazing piece of work. CGI cylons, Apollo going John Woo with a blaster in each hand, even a Star Wars-style holographic recording of the late Lorne Greene as Adama. If they'd just let Hatch remake the show, then we'd have a Galactica that all ages could enjoy.

      But no. It's in fashion these days to "remake" old properties with no involvement whatsoever from anyone who was involved with the original. Pay lip service to the concept, drag it through the mud, and make it so crappy that neither the old fans nor new curious viewers have any interest in it. Bleah. This new show is just wrong. It's a blatant spit-in-the-face of Hatch, and of all the old-time fans who have been trying to get Hatch's show made.

      Sure, Hatch might be a starry-eyed dreamer, but if it weren't for dreamers, nothing would ever get done. And you have to hand it to him...he's written the stories. Not Shatnerically ghost-written them. He has a lot of creativity, a lot of charisma...if only they would give him the reins.
  • ...can be found here [battlestargalactica.com]. (Summary: he pans it; quote: " This remake is a disaster and will be the END of the line for this property.")
  • I hate to say it, but what an absolutely awfull show. It was embarassingly bad. Oh the horror. I'd rather see Dr. Who reruns. (Actually I would like to see Dr. Who reruns.) But beyond being a really, really bad show, this is proof positive that no one in the entertainment biz has an original idea. Redo a really, really bad SciFi show from the 70's like this. They might as well redo Lost in Space or Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. (I better be careful, don't want to give them any ideas.) Ballestar Gallactica... oh the humanity.
  • Ain't It Cool News [aintitcool.com] had a fairly favorable script review a few months ago.


    I remember "Galactica" from my youth, but I just remember the spaceships zooming around. I was like 7 or so, so I don't remember much. I was excited when they were going to bring it back...but then, we don't speak of "Galactica 1980." (My God! It's been over 20 years)


    When I went back in the last few years and caught it on SciFi, I was surprised how detailed the series was--the polictical infighting, the "civilian control of the military" overtones, etc.


    The new script sounds like it picks up on its legacy, and expands on it immencely.


    Remember: twenty-five years ago, SciFi was not nearly as generally accepted as it is today. There is such diversity out there now, and the audiences are much more mature. It could be said that it is much more accepted. So, more sophisticated plotlines can be accepted.

  • That "stupid robot dog" was the best part!
  • Insert #Farscape.h (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mbourgon ( 186257 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:54AM (#5413285) Homepage
    lovely. They canned Farscape for this crap? Next you know, they'll be doing crap like Candid Camera (http://www.scifi.com/scaretactics/), dream analysis (http://www.scifi.com/dreamteam/), turn some bad made-for-tv movies into a series (http://www.scifi.com/tremors/), give Adrian Paul another show to suck in (http://www.scifi.com/tracker/) and probably some crappy show based on "Chariots of the Gods" (http://www.chariotsofthegods.com/).

    I am _so_ glad that there is a new Science-Fiction-based tv channel being created. Never thought I'd see the day. I used to watch SciFi all the time. Now? One hour, once a week.

    Watch Farscape. Tell your friends. The "We're So Screwed" Trilogy started last night. It'll replay this weekend.
    • Actually, the original Tremors movie is quite good -- the story is silly (deliberately so), but it beautifully parodies all sorts of SF icons and redneck cliches, and it's well-written and nicely paced. But that sort of thing is best left as a one-shot, not beaten to death as a series.

      I remember BG very well. The premiere was one of the dullest and most weakly-plotted things I'd ever seen outside of maybe Star Trek: The Motionless Picture, and BG had additional problems with very poor acting and lack of chemistry. It got tolerable after a while, but it was never what I'd call good TV on any level.

      And IMO the whole premise was too weak to begin with, so how does it deserve a second chance now? A: Well, we can't think up our own stuff, so we'll use this one that we already have handy.

      Glah, and then they wonder why SF series tend not to be the big hits they envision.

  • I can't imagine them trying to write a "Boxey" into the storyline these days; he'd probably turn into a sad rip-off of Wil Wheaton's [wilwheaton.net] role as "Wesley Crusher [imdb.com]," the wiseass geeky kid we all wished we could be, except we'd never pretend to be smarter than we are (so we tell ourselves), than the simpler but more iconic role that Noah Hathaway [imdb.com] played, as a more innocent, less brash and younger version of "Starbuck," reminding us that the human race is very naive and possibly simplistic in its desires, but definitely worth saving.

    Speaking of saving, they need to give Herb Jefferson Jr. [imdb.com] some kind of cameo, simply for showing up in his "Boomer" costume at a zillion SF conventions, so that we never quite forgot Battlestar Galactica.
  • Baltar's Death (Score:3, Interesting)

    by limekiller4 ( 451497 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:56AM (#5413297) Homepage
    Little-known fact: Baltar gets killed in the non-US release of the movie because he wasn't needed for the series. Gets beheaded by a Cylon, IIRC. I wonder how/if they're going to handle that.
  • Farscape? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Nick Fury ( 624480 )
    Why did they cancel Farscape, a perfectly good SF series, only to redo BSG and show more Stargate? And not only that, what was the Sci-Fi channel showing Braveheart, yes that Braveheart, for? I like Mel and all but Braveheart has nothing to do with SF. I think someone needs to tell whoever is running this channel to ignore ratings and show quality stuff.
  • Oh great... (Score:3, Funny)

    by foistboinder ( 99286 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:58AM (#5413305) Homepage Journal
    They're so bankrupt of ideas they're starting to remake shows that sucked. On the bright side, it probably can't be any worse than the original.
    • Interesting comment. It seems that 90% of science fiction is regurgitating something from before. One of BG's episodes had Starbuck and a Cylon crashed on a planet. They overcame their differences to become friends. I've so far seen this in Barry Longyear's "Enemy Mine,", on Enterprise, ST:TOS, ST:TNG, Buck Rogers, etc., etc..

      And the original BG was pretty bad. Things like the control yoke in their spaceships having buttons labelled "Turbo" (looking eerily similar to arcade controls of the era) to the names of the characters to Twiki and...well, you know.

  • by garyok ( 218493 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @11:58AM (#5413307)
    I mean, in the last series it took them 20 years, and a weedy space albino, to figure out that if they run for Earth then the Cylons can just hang back and fry them and our mostly harmless selves when contact's made. What's a two decade wait to a galactic empire of robots? How's about this time we organise an online petition to tell those dumbass Galacticans to stay the hell away from Earth?

    Also, there's the question of their immigration status. Now, they can't really claim to be asylum seekers 'cos they started the war with the Cylons in the first place by being a big bunch of Buttinskis and not letting the Cylons subjugate a vassal race as they saw fit (subjugation's kinda the point in being Galactic Overlords after all...) It'd be funny of they got to Earth and the Department of Homeland Security just stuck them in a camp.

    Thinking about it that way, the smartest thing we could do when the Galactican's arrive is stick them in a camp. Then when the Cylons turn up we cosy up to them and point out that our most powerful nations are those with the strongest rule of law, and by the way have you thought about extraditing the Galacticans to Cylon as war criminals? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they commit genocide when they destroyed a planet in the movie? "Oh, it was just an 'accident', was it? Well I'm very sure that if you're innocent then you'll have nothing to fear at trial. On Cylon."

    Then we're well in with our new alien masters, obviously being a different, more pragmatic breed of humanity and a bright shining future awaits humanity as the Cylons' premier client race.

    It's what I'd do.
  • by Lord_Slepnir ( 585350 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @12:04PM (#5413327) Journal
    So long as they don't bring back that stupid robot dog,

    I never noticed this, but if you listen carefully to that sound that thing makes, it sounds a lot like "Jar Jar....Jar Jar"

    Coincidence, I think not.

  • by The Ape With No Name ( 213531 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @12:06PM (#5413334) Homepage
    Wait a minute, that chain of coffee shops has nothing to do with Battlestar Galactica? Who knew? Damn, now I have to sell my stock. Send in John Ashcroft!
  • I'm all for NT 4.0 seeing as they how bad they suck, but it would be a bit funny if they said they ran BEOS or something like that *grin*.

    Maybe a poll would be good,
    option D. Cylons are just Cowboy Neal in Metal-Drag

  • by mcwop ( 31034 )
    Frack Lucifer and frack the cylons.

  • They cancel the last season of Farscape and blow their money on THIS!?

    It's official. I hate the Sci-fi channel.

  • was some of the best idle time in college! Now if we could only get back Honeymooners/TwilightZone/StarTrek we'd be set
  • Granted, it wasn't the SciFi channel that did this, but... Remember what happened when 'Dinotopia' made the transition from a single 2-hour made-for-TV flick to a series? The movie version was weak enough, but showed lots of potential if they could have gotten better writing.

    The series flopped after (barely) getting through four or so episodes. Why? A complete cast change. None of the original actors got used, with the possible exception of the voice talent for that scaly librarian, and the replacement "talent" had about as many neurons between their collective ears as a cubic centimeter of space dust.

    Look also at "Earth: Final Conflict." Fantastic series until Tribune Entertainment got their grubby mitts on it, and decided (God only knows why) it needed some changes. What'd we get? Death of the leading character(s) and, after a while, nothing but badly-written 'Monster of the Week' episodes. I'm surprised Kevin Kilner even bothered to reappear later on. I wonder if that was a move of desperation, on the part of the producers, to try and revive what they'd already effectively killed?

    Few series survive being re-made. Does anyone really trust the production skills of a studio that has given us such... wonders... as "Crossing Over with John (shyster) Edwards," and the cancellation of their single most popular series (Farscape), to be able to do justice to the original BSG, as campy as it may have been?

    I think SciFi needs to leave well enough alone. Unless, that is, they plan on hiring Richard Hatch as the producer of the thing. Then it might stand a chance.
  • goes "bidi bidi bidi" I think its name was twiki or something.
  • My earlier comments on series re-making are hereby suspended -- for now! I should have done this before writing anything, but I just checked the link and saw that Ron Moore is the guy leading the project.

    Considering the quality of "Roswell" and his other accomplishments, I believe I will give his image of what BSG could be a chance before I pan it outright.

  • by merlyn ( 9918 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @12:53PM (#5413507) Homepage Journal
    One of my favorite lines was "the enemy is closing in! They're only 5 microns away!", to which I yelled back loudly at the screen, "well, then, scrape them off!".

    Sigh. It's OK to invent units. It's not OK to have those units already mean something vastly different in real life.

  • Just look at the credentials of the people involved:

    Directed by Michael Rymer:

    Queen of the Damned - The worst hack job of a novel in recent memory, and a snooze-enducing piece of crap that made me want to just get up and walk out in the middle of the movie.

    Written by Ronald D. Moore:

    Mission: Impossible II - Your mission (should you choose to accept it) is to make a movie even dumber than Mission: Impossible.

    Produced by David Eick:

    Hercules: The Legendary Journeys - NEED I SAY MORE???

    This is going to be a schlockfest!
  • by loggia ( 309962 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @12:54PM (#5413515)
    I still have a crush on Sheba [blast.net]
  • by BigJimSlade ( 139096 ) on Saturday March 01, 2003 @08:32PM (#5415859) Homepage
    So long as they don't bring back that stupid robot dog, it might be okay

    Also staring Aibo(tm) as the Robot Dog
    (Aibo(tm) appears courtesy of Sony(tm) Entertainment)

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