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Microsoft: 2003 and Beyond 402

A reader writes: " Automation Access has a long editorial on the future of Microsoft, based on trends which are already in full motion. None of this is new or surprising, but seeing it all together in one article is well worthwhile."
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Microsoft: 2003 and Beyond

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  • Finally (Score:3, Funny)

    by govtcheez ( 524087 ) <govtcheez03@hotmail.com> on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:18PM (#5424509) Homepage
    Finally, we can see what's after "4. Profit!!!"
  • Prediction (Score:3, Interesting)

    by swordboy ( 472941 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:20PM (#5424524) Journal
    DirectLife

    Microsoft will continue to implement proprietary standards. The problem is that many of them don't suck anymore. Since they have so much cash, they are quick to introduce technology first (yeah.... I know there are several examples that point to the opposite...).

    Soon, when your car needs an oil change, it'll tell your DirectCar equipped device which will cross-reference your location with the nearest providers. You'll click on the low bidder and the on-board DirectNavigation device will tell you how to get there.

    It'll be cheap, convenient... and Microsoft will have a piece of the transaction...

    The hands tighten!
    • by zapfie ( 560589 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:22PM (#5424541)
      Microsoft will continue to implement proprietary standards.

      ...proprietary standards? :)
      • Yea. Think 'embrace-and-extend'. It's a standard in that all MS products use it, and proprietary in that noone else can.
      • by paulhar ( 652995 )
        From Merriam-Webster [http://www.m-w.com]

        Proprietary:
        a business secretly owned by and run as a cover for an intelligence organization

        Standard:
        a conspicuous object (as a banner) formerly carried at the top of a pole and used to mark a rallying point especially in battle or to serve as an emblem

        All is revealed! Microsoft is a cover for an anti-terrorist agency whos dominance of world computers will be used to foil terrorists everywhere since... hmm... it's on the terrorists phones and computers it'll... erm... crash more often, preventing them from being effective...

        Windows update is the tool!
      • Re:Prediction (Score:3, Interesting)

        by swordboy ( 472941 )
        ...proprietary standards? :)

        Bah... Slashdot needs an edit feature to bog it down some more. I caught that as I hit the submit button... That should read, "proprietary solutions".

        In any event, but if you stare at it long enough, they really are proprietary standards... Windows, Word, etc... These have all become industry "standards", for the most part.

        But thanks again for pointing out the mistakes that I often make in the haste required to get the "FIT" (First Intelligent Post).
        • by zapfie ( 560589 )
          But thanks again for pointing out the mistakes that I often make in the haste required to get the "FIT" (First Intelligent Post).

          Not to be a wet blanket or anything, but did you mean FIP? :)
    • Re:Prediction (Score:4, Interesting)

      by BWJones ( 18351 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @01:15PM (#5424920) Homepage Journal
      Soon, when your car needs an oil change, it'll tell your DirectCar equipped device which will cross-reference your location with the nearest providers. You'll click on the low bidder and the on-board DirectNavigation device will tell you how to get there.

      My question with all of this is how is it going to make my life better by having Direct(whatever) running my automobile, or having a browser in my freezer at home? Simply put, I do not want those features/bugs in every aspect of my life with the prospects of occupying more time. Several years ago when I was integrating computers more into my work, they started sucking up incredible amounts of time for administration purposes (web sites, databases, dealing with bugs and crashes) and it was actually taking up time that could have been better spent on other things. This is why I went with OS X, by the way as it requires much less hand holding than Windows and has much better security.

      At any rate, I do not want to have to go through the same thing with my automobile, home appliances, or whatever. My time is valuable enough without having to troubleshoot other systems in addition to work. Yes, true embedded systems are easier to use, but Microsoft has not proven themselves capable of producing a reliable embedded system as evidenced by that lousy interface and functionality of the CE driven system on the BMW 7 series. If BMW continues along that path, they will loose me as a customer forever.

      • Re:Prediction (Score:4, Insightful)

        by pmz ( 462998 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @03:13PM (#5425740) Homepage
        My question with all of this is how is it going to make my life better by having Direct(whatever) running my automobile, or having a browser in my freezer at home?

        1) It will make your life worse. For example, I would never go to the lowest bidder for something as important as an oil change! Who knows what kind of oil filter they use, or even if they put in the right amount of oil. Then the sleazebags try to sell new winshield wipers, breather elements, transmission fluid, etc. and leave fingerprints on the hood and fenders. Good old-fashioned word of mouth is still the only reliable way to find mechanics, contractors, etc.

        2) Microsoft's habit of producing products of unbounded complexity has no business being in any of my household appliances, or my car (or my PC, for that matter).

        I think the recent drive to automate and integrate everything will end when the public realizes that simplicity in most things is a virtue not a limitation, and computers make useful tools and that's about it.
    • Re:Prediction (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Surak ( 18578 ) <surak&mailblocks,com> on Monday March 03, 2003 @01:39PM (#5425063) Homepage Journal
      My Prediction:

      Microsoft will fall and fall hard. Microsoft is already saying that they're gonna break compatility with Longhorn and .Net, using those technologies to wrest fuller control of the PC OS market. Sound familiar? Think IBM and OS/2 and PS/2 and MCA ca. 1987. Where's IBM now? Not controlling the PC market anymore, that's for damn sure.

      I've been saying this for the last 5 years or so. You watch. It *will* happen.

  • Comment removed (Score:4, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:20PM (#5424525)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
    • Re:Hmm (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Ogerman ( 136333 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @05:01PM (#5426650)
      Although the topics are pretty banal, he makes some interesting comments suggesting where Open Source can make inroads in small/medium business:

      Symantec's Act! and Intuit's QuickBooks are Microsoft's ace in the hole. Until file compatible equivalents are developed, Linux will have a hard time capturing the small business desktop in the U.S.. Both companies are closely tied to Microsoft, so QuickBooks won't be ported until it's too late to save Intuit from Microsoft Great Plains.

      What we need is for a group of businesses to pool some funds and create an Open Source project to entirely replace the need for Quickbooks and other expensive off-the-shelf accounting and business management software. Why should they do this? Out fo the goodness of their hearts? No!! Because it'll be cheaper for them in the long run.

      The author of the article almost gets it, but not quite:

      Paradoxically, a strong open source alternative is the best hope for a revived commercial software industry. Much software needed by businesses is simply of no interest to open source developers. As Linux becomes a mainstream business operating system, the market for commercial software running on Linux expands.

      When he states that business software is of no interest to OSS developers, he is making the assumption that all OSS developers work without pay and only a hobby. Geeks, listen up! The business world needs Open Source business apps to make free operating systems like Linux and BSD useful to them. Commercial software running on Linux is not the answer--not for them, not for the development community at large. We need to educate businesses that collaboration and pooling of resources is more efficient at meeting needs than buying proprietary software. Open Source is not just about getting a free lunch--it's about getting your needs met cheaply and effectively. Just as the Apache Group has functioned as a consortium and pool of resources for people who need web server software, we need equivalent projects for all major business management and accounting software.

      There are precisely 2 things keeping the Evil Empire from falling: 1.) lack of a sufficient replacement for MS-Office 2.) lack of commodity business software for alternative platforms
  • IBM#2 (Score:5, Interesting)

    by TastyWords ( 640141 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:21PM (#5424531)
    They'll be another big company, but no longer setting the trends - just like what happened to IBM. It used to be said about IBM: "Beware the dancing elephant." Before long, that will be Microsoft's motto. Something as simple as Gates & Ballmer riding in the same car and someone running a red light. *poof* Granted, Microsoft is more than just those two, but in the business world, they are the figureheads. If the suits (outside of Microsoft) don't take Microsoft seriously, Microsoft will be a shadow of its former self.
  • Related article (Score:2, Interesting)

    by MagPulse ( 316 )
    I was just browsing Microsoft blogs [microsoft-watch.com] and came across this article [dabbler.org] on what Microsoft is doing about people being able to do what they want with their existing computers without buying XP and Word 2003.
    • Re:Related article (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Christianfreak ( 100697 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:43PM (#5424700) Homepage Journal
      Who modded this interesting? That article was nothing but FUD and FUD that's nearly a year and a half old at that. From the article "Its okay that Linux doesn't make it easier to change hardware because Linux is only used in cheap consumer devices that people throw away." Give me a break! Hardware detection has been around in serveral distros long before 2001. The article assumes that Linux development has just stagnated and MS are the only company to innovate and that the only reason that the world uses Windows is Bill Gates glorious vision of a computer on every desktop. FUD FUD FUD
  • by TummyX ( 84871 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:23PM (#5424550)

    The most important feature of Longhorn is replacement of the familiar DOS/Windows filesystem with an object database (W0). You will no longer copy files to a floppy or CD-ROM or attach them to an email, because there will be no files. Database records will be copied from one database to another, probably through a .NET server. Large organizations will have their own .NET servers, but everyone else will use one of Microsoft's, a service for which you will pay a fee.


    Uh huh. DB based file system != files will be stored on a server (microsoft or otherwise).

    So much for credibility.
    • This article is a joke, a troll, a hoax, or just misinformation from an idiot. Perhaps a little bit from each pile.

      there will be no files ... everyone will have to pay MS to store their files on their servers and none of your software will work ... blah blah

      Complete, utter bullshit. What a waste of my time reading that article. Thanks a bunch, /.
    • Hmmm.

      So if everything is replaced with database calls,
      DELTREE /R C:/*.*
      or
      rm -rf /

      Will be replaced by the much simpler
      DELETE FROM FILESYSTEM

      No need for extra arguments when you desire 100% compression.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:23PM (#5424552)
    If it wasn't for the hippy in the tie, I would have thought this was a time cube link.
  • by FuzzyBad-Mofo ( 184327 ) <fuzzybad@gmaCURIEil.com minus physicist> on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:24PM (#5424560)

    The future [mslinux.org] of Microsoft.

  • Damn (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Gortbusters.org ( 637314 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:25PM (#5424573) Homepage Journal
    This is a long story, could have just gone with the road ahead [aaxnet.com] section of the editorial. He does make some interesting points about Longhorn including "Current Windows based software will not be compatible with the Longhorn filesystem".

    If that's true, sounds like a big shot in the foot for MS. With many people still on 98/2000, XP has yet to saturate every cubicle around. Now by 2005 everyone will be expected to drop everything and get a new stuff? They must have some plan to support "legacy" software.
    • Re:Damn (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Longhorn will be compatible - it's called 'locking in' and basically means that you will buy the next best version because the advantages are that you can run your existing software on it. Simple as that. If it was totally different - well, the Apple switch ads would be doing good business...

      The guy who wrote this is trying to be smart and failing - he knows about hating Microsoft, and he knows a bit about technology, and paranoia too. But he doesn't know about business, and his argument that Longhorn will not be backwards compatible puts the rest of the article into doubt - he fumbles the bit about licensing and totally drops the ball when he says that you store your files on Microsoft's servers.

      Take the entire thing with a pinch of salt. M$ may be bastards when it comes to business practice, but they aren't bastards in the eyes of the average end-user, merely annoying.
      • Re:Damn (Score:5, Informative)

        by stratjakt ( 596332 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:42PM (#5424695) Journal
        And then there's his brilliant assessment of a DB based filesystem:

        "The most important feature of Longhorn is replacement of the familiar DOS/Windows filesystem with an object database (W0). You will no longer copy files to a floppy or CD-ROM or attach them to an email, because there will be no files. Database records will be copied from one database to another, probably through a .NET server. Large organizations will have their own .NET servers, but everyone else will use one of Microsoft's, a service for which you will pay a fee."

        Yeah, no more files. Everyone will need to pay to use MS's servers to store data. Uh-huh.

        For the record, a DB based filesystem is really just using a relational DB to find stuff faster, rather than a FAT or jumping inodes.

        The guy who wrote this doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
    • If that's true

      It's not. Don't worry, this guy seems to be a jackass...

      I shuddered when he said that the new file system will be impleneted via a database will be incompatible with current "DOS/Windows" filesystems.

  • Palladium (Score:3, Insightful)

    by termos ( 634980 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:27PM (#5424579) Homepage
    Palladium, a chip based "security" initiative, is another major part of Microsoft strategy. Since Microsoft has seized control of PC design from Intel and the PC manufacturers, they are in a position to dictate how PC hardware will integrate with Windows.
    This is just another reason why Microsoft should be stopped as quick as possible.
  • by corporatemutantninja ( 533295 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:28PM (#5424591)
    I kept looking for the phrase, "According to top Chinese and Russian scientists..." C'mon, this article is a mix of fairly obvious trends and a lot of squirrely language. I'm no Microsoft fan, but this is just tripe. For example, he starts of by saying that Microsoft license upgrades are going to get the lions share of 2003's very small IT budget increases. What he ignores is that even though the budgets aren't changing, where the dollars are being allocated is. For example, a number of large enterprises are kicking sun out of their data centers in favor of Linux. Backup & recovery outsourcing is up. And India outsourcing is WAY up, which drives sales in things like VoIP and collaboration tools. Well, it's not worth spending half my morning picking this guy apart, nor did I get past the first couple of pages, but it seems to me to be just poorly researched frothing.
  • Bitter? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MosesJones ( 55544 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:32PM (#5424620) Homepage
    Highly skilled jobs remain, and pay well, because basic design, prototyping and pilot production will still be done here, but even if you have skills, there are problems getting hired. Human Resources departments haven't one clue in Hell how to evaluate skilled technical workers. They try to match exact experience and training to exact job requirements, and demand 3 years experience for specialties that have only existed for 18 months. Thousands of technical jobs go unfilled, while thousands who could do those jobs are asking, "Do you want fries with that?".

    If you're over 40, the technology employment picture becomes really grim. You have abilities far beyond a 28 year old's, but he's the one that's going to get hired. For over 40s, there are many opportunities in consulting, especially in small and medium business, but that takes social skills and above all, selling skills, exactly what many chose technical careers to avoid.


    Ummm and with that beard ? A strange rant in the middle of the article.
    • Re:Bitter? (Score:3, Informative)

      by namespan ( 225296 )
      I'm bitter. I've applied for jobs that ask for 8+ years of experience implementing J2EE solutions. Even 3 years of experience is asking quite a bit, since Java 1.2/2 was barely released in 1999. And that's just the specific examples. In general, I find that HR departments are often my biggest obstacles to getting a job. Most of my interviews (and occasional contract work) over the last 8-10 months have either been with smaller organizations like the one he's describing, or with larger orgs where I knew someone who could get past the wall of flaming cow dung that is HR.
  • Nice start (Score:5, Insightful)

    by pubjames ( 468013 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:34PM (#5424627)

    I'm often thought that, if the OSS developers really wants to help OSS take off, they should create a simple, well designed web site with the facts for and against, and perhaps some case studies. Something that would be have a compelling argument for PHBs.

    It seems that this guy has put together lots of good facts, but it fails hugely in one respect. It is not business-like. Someone needs to go though this and remove emotion and long-windedness and highlight the best facts.

    Consider this sentence:

    Denial has always been Microsoft's "remedy of choice", blaming "dumb users", "criminal hackers", and "poor administration" for security problems. Apparently Microsoft itself employs plenty of dumb users and poor administrators, because they've had to disconnect their internal systems for major cleanups with every big worm attack, and they got slammed pretty hard by the Slammer worm in JAN 2003

    Extract the fact:

    Jan 2003, Microsoft disconnected their own internal network because they because they became infected by the Slammer worm.

    Now, which of these two sentences do you think would have the most influence on business decision makers (or PHBs if you prefer)?

    • Re:Nice start (Score:2, Insightful)

      by torre ( 620087 )
      That would sound like a great idea, as a nonbiased comparison is greatly needed including how you got those TCO results. However, your choice to support this document as factual is poor. Consider the following excerts.

      Intentional Vulnerability - Microsoft demands access to your computers and network over the Internet, without your consent and without your knowledge (it's in the license agreement for Windows XP and Windows 2000 SP3). To expect a computer system outfitted with these "features" to be in any way secure is purest fantasy.

      Deliberate "Back Doors" - It is strongly suspected that Microsoft has provided government agencies with keys and codes allowing secret entry into Windows systems. This is a major reason why China and the German Bundeswehr are dumping Windows. Further, Microsoft developers have hidden whole games within the code of Microsoft Office. It's absurd to think they haven't put in a few convenient entry points. Many think the sudden surrender of the Bush Department of Justice to Microsoft, after the antitrust case was decisively won and upheld on appeal, was in return for Microsoft inserting access points into Windows - access points that are probably redundant, but asked for as a result of the now famous lack of communication among U.S. security agencies.


      Not only are these wild claims that he attemps to pass as fact but they are pure speculation on his part not even supported by his references. There are countless examples throughout this document where massive bias is attempted to pass as fact, some of which have been noted in other posts here. One only needs to look at his choice of references to see what his bias lies, nothing really pro microsoft listed..

      My point is simple, we can do a lot better as a community. We don't have to sink to trying to convince people with wild claims that even a layperson can see right through. Our attempt to show material ultimately demonstrates who we are and if we push crap we look like crap. If we push quality material then we look good.
  • M$ serious issue (Score:2, Interesting)

    The successor to Windows XP (due in 2004, and rapidly slipping to 2005) is currently code named Longhorn, and it will not be compatible with your existing software, hardware or methods. Microsoft has already stated that backward compatibility will not be a design feature." Well is this where M$ starts to loose the market as people take more to application that will develop futher like e.g. wine ?
  • Having purchased the US Department of Justice, we hope to acquire other judicial assets. This will facilitate our acquisition of other commercial computing entities, such as America Online, Earthlink, AT&T, and the so-called Baby Bells.

    Once we have the resources of trademark and patent offices around the globe, we will begin our program to acquire patents and trademarks for existing so-called "Open Source" properties, upon which we will then vigorously enforce our new license fee structure.

    Finally, we plan to obtain ownership rights to the chemicals Adenine, Cytosine, Guanine and Thymine, and to impose licensing fees on anyone who replicates these chemicals in any order.

    By obtaining these assets, we shall create a better, more user-friendly world, in which everything will be more Windows-compatible - and much, much more gooey.
  • worse security
    weirder DRM
    crackhead sized lust for hardware requirements
    more holes
    quirky backwards compatibility
    YADM (yet another driver model)
    The end of Win9 code (really we mean it this time)
    Incedibly active Desktop - it will purr if stroke the keyboard right
    Cancerous integration with MSN
    Diverge from all standards except the ones they can't reverse mutate
    Bigger nanny filters
    Diverge from all other media players/tools
    CDRW/DVD-recorder 'certification'
  • For the article:

    A principle factor is that America's business leaders simply don't want to think about complex technology issues - they want to think about golf. Microsoft promises them that, and being a large, and hugely successful corporation, they have high credibility with top business executives.

    If this is true, the future of open source is dark, indeed... =(
  • Yawn (Score:2, Insightful)

    If I wanted to read about the predicted business ventures of some corporation, I would read thier corporate section on their website. This isn't news, buddy.
  • by argoff ( 142580 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:45PM (#5424714)
    Just as the plantation masters of 1850, who in a desperate attempt to fence themselves off from the forces of the industrial revolution, succeded their states from the union. So is MS and hollywood, and a few other players trying to fence themselves off from an unavoidable consequence of the information age by using DRM (or Rights Managment Software). And just as in the 1850's, nobody is going to respect that boundary.

    The whole value of the information age comes from the uninhibited free flow of information. Copyrights are very quickly becoming unenforcable, which is why Microsoft and Hollywood are doomed. But unfortunately, while p2p and Linux will have all the growth at first, MS and Hollywood will have all the revenue. There is no way that this will be a nice transition, with trillions at stake watch out for all hell to break loose.
    • "Just as the plantation masters of 1850, who in a desperate attempt to fence themselves off from the forces of the industrial revolution, succeded their states from the union."

      You must be from the South. Everybody else knows and understands that they did not, in fact, succeed.

      Or perhaps you meant "seceded"? :-)

      Caveat: I'm from the South. This is not a 'dumb redneck' insult.

  • MS (Score:5, Interesting)

    by wiggys ( 621350 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:45PM (#5424717)
    We had to fill out a Microsoft-sponsored questionnaire today. One of the questions was

    "If you were planning to spend more than £150,000 in one go would you like:

    - Someone from Microsoft to spend 2 hours at your company to offer advice
    - A Microsoft partner to spend 2 hours at your company to offer advice"

    For £150,000 I'd want Bill Gates to spend 2 hours here making coffee and preparing sandwiches!

    Interestingly, one of the questions was "Will you consider using Open Office in the next 12 months?"

    At £300+ a go for MS Office I'd say YES.

  • an open-source database to interface with Longhorn? Or have they not released the APIs and reverse-engineering it would violate the DCMA?

    Is Longhorn backup solely going to be the province of MS?

  • That shows EXACTLY what Microsoft has in store for customers over the next few years...

    I can put up with a lot, but Palladium will be the 20 ton girder that broke the camel's back in this case.

    As soon as software comes out that requires Palladium, I'm out of Microsoft software permanently.

    I've tinkered with Linux but never really used it to a large degree, however I will not have outside companies dictating what I can and can't do on my own machine.

    Any corporate executives who think they can cram this kind of crap down people's throats better think again.
  • Some expect the name Windows will be dropped completely. The antitrust agreement with the Bush DoJ specifically states "Microsoft Windows" throughout. By maintaining incompatibility (already planned due to design considerations), making it look different and calling it something else, Microsoft can free itself from antitrust oversight. "It's not Windows, it's a different product - the agreement doesn't apply."

    Trying this kind of stunt would just launch another anti-trust action from Square One, which I highly doubt Microsoft would want. One of the main reasons that Microsoft is floating the idea of paying a dividend is that they've put the specter of antitrust liability behind them.
  • by stereoroid ( 234317 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:52PM (#5424754) Homepage Journal
    Some thoughts after a quick read-through of the article. My first concern is this: The article lambasts MS for the dominance it has achieved in hardware specs, and I can't argue with the facts, but I wonder why MS is in the position of specifying the hardware it likes, without serious opposition? This is my view:
    • Compared to the Apple Macintosh, Windows had to support much more and diverse hardware, so it's clearly in MS' interest to limit the possibilities and improve quality control on the drivers it does support - hence the whole "driver signing" initiative. In my subjective view, this has largely been successful - Windows XP is more reliable than its predecessors, which is a start.
    • As noted, this has focused the "white box" market and lowered prices. Intel and AMD's pricing and business are intimately tied in with MS', tothe point that neither will consider making a true Windows-incompatible CPU.
    • But what about other hardware alternatives? I mean, there have been PowerPC reference designs for years, but the withdrawal of MacOS privileges by Apple seems to have scuppered that market totally - otherwise there would be far more non-Wintel boxes out there, ripe for MacOS or Linux (or both).
    My main point is this: at the moment, any real innovation in hardware design seems to have a MS stamp on it, even if the actual work is done by e.g. Inventec on behalf of HP. The Tablet PC is a perfect example: the market and technology have been around for years, but only the MS-backed group has actually produced a useful mass-market design. The HP/Compaq in particular is getting raves from the real-world usability angle. Never mind a Transmeta-based system might do the job even better and be Linux-compatible - why was MS allowed to be first to (mass) market?

    Finally: the anti-MS bias in the article is obviously not a problem to Slashdot readers, but it does raise questions about the author's objectivity. Still: if, like me, your livelihood is bound up with Microsoft's, I'd start looking for an "out" in the next couple of years. (I think I'll break out my guitar and join a band again.)

  • by puppetman ( 131489 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:54PM (#5424768) Homepage
    Slam any new product because it doesn't fit with the way a /. reader think things should be done.

    Classify anyone with an opinion as a moron because they have the nerve to express it. Especially if it has to do with Microsoft.

    I thought there was some interesting insights in the article. The larger the corporation, the more likely they are to outsource jobs to India, Poland, etc. Palladium is really a Digital Rights Management initiative (we all knew that), but primarily for Microsoft software and content. The Microsoft stock-dividend was designed to draw attention away from lower growth, and designed to allow funds that buy only dividend stocks to buy Microsoft, hopefully raising share price.

    Anyone who stopped reading because they saw something they disagreed with missed some very interesting points.

  • You see? I don't even have to do any Microsoft bashing. Just stay the hell away from their products for server-side development (services, servers, backends, etc.) and you're in the clear. If we'd all spend less time bashing and more time actually /using/ alternatives (yes, including YOU "Mr. Windows 2000 with MSIE 6.0 on the client side but still bashing") we'd all just give a sigh and laugh at all of the bullet points in that article and not get fired up.

    The only thing that gets ME fired up about Microsoft is the fact that *MY* Windows 2000 blue screens every time I try to launch NASCAR's PitCommand Java app. Add THAT to your article Mr. Grygus.
  • by erixtark ( 413840 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @12:58PM (#5424803)
    Nice read, but he forgot one company: Google.

    As every slashdotter know, they are rapidly taking control over the internet search market. Pretty soon just about everybody may be dependant on Google for internet exposure. If Google doesn't find you, you don't exist. Now that's power in the internet age.

    Google may very well end up being for the internet what Microsoft was for the PC.
  • by Ars-Fartsica ( 166957 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @01:02PM (#5424829)
    Most sectors of the software market are still totally oversaturated, filled with companies charging absurd amounts of money for mediocore products, banking on IT manager's ignorance or generous budgets.

    Enterprise computing is probably the biggest pinata waiting to be burst. Seibel, Oracle, PeopleSoft, CA, IBM, BEA, SAP, SAS, Sybase...more and more these and other enterprise firms are poaching each other's markets, looking for growth. Only 10% will survive. I expect some major players in the enterprise market to vanish in the next five years. On top of this you have open source. Right now Oracle need not worry too much about MySQL, for example, but in five years they will have to worry about MySQL a great deal.

    Open source and cheap foreign tech labor are converging to gut the high-margin software biz. I think in a few years people will drastically reconsider this market and profit prospects in it, and the process will be brutal.

    • MySQL, will never take on Oracle.

      It's fast for trivial lookups because it's light weight and has low functionality, and that's the market it's aimed at.

      If it tries to take on Oracle then it would leave all it's current users running old versions.

      Postgres is the heavyweight of the OSS databases and it already replacing Oracle in some installations. (I believe some TLD servers switched to postgres).
    • Open source and cheap foreign tech labor are converging to gut the high-margin software biz. I think in a few years people will drastically reconsider this market and profit prospects in it, and the process will be brutal.

      A few years? How many companies do you know that are still left? Most are toasty goodness already. The rest will be soon. There are only two outs: The first is to provide service. Many of the big CRM, HR, and accounting firms already make most of their money consulting on customization rather than actually selling the product. Run the system from a central location and most companies would be much happier. Customization is much easier, too. Second, although product is dead, content is not. That is why there will always be a TurboTax from Intuit and an anti-virus system from Symantec. Microsoft hasn't seemed to catch on to the fact (except with, perhaps MSNBC) that it is really the content people pay for.

      So, retool your companies to provide service or content and use the software as only a tool to deliver the same. You'll be better off - unless, of course, you're a programmer... sigh.

  • I tend to think (Score:2, Interesting)

    by leifm ( 641850 )
    That most of the major changes touted for Longhorn are gonig to slip into Blackcomb, and Longhorn will be another ho-hum release along the lines of XP. But come Blackcomb say goodbye to Win32 API, NTFS, backward compatibility...
  • Not compatible? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Junks Jerzey ( 54586 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @01:14PM (#5424916)
    Current Windows based software will not be compatible with the Longhorn filesystem.

    And that means that Windows software in general is not going to be compatible. This is scary. It took a long, long time before developers caught up with all the changes introduced with Windows 95. MS-DOS games were still being released years later. Lots of good software written for MS-DOS was never brought over to Windows, because it was too much work. But MS-DOS sucked, so this didn't matter too much.

    The short version: If Microsoft radically changes how things work for developers--and if it isn't for the better, just different--then developers are going be thrown into a turmoil and have hard choices to make. Those kind of decision points are what make and break companies. It may be the best place to finally say the hell with Microsoft, it's time to go elsewhere.

    I'm not saying that Linux or OS X are the best options out there, but they may be better than what's coming.
    • Re:Not compatible? (Score:3, Interesting)

      by leifm ( 641850 )
      I think your fears are unfounded. Linux on the desktop is starting to take shape, and by the time Longhorn ships it might even be a viable canidate for many people. Why would MS release an OS that breaks legacy compatibility just as their cheif competition gets it's act together on the desktop? I don't think they are that stupid.
  • MS Supporters (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Ensign Nemo ( 19284 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @01:32PM (#5425016)
    are out in full swing. Does the article really scare you that much?

    How many of you actually read it? The article has some very good points and LOTS of information to back it up. I pointed many people to that article and ALL of them found it very informative and enlightening. All of them except one (a severe MS defender) came to the conclusion that MS needs to be checked at the Gates. Yes, XP sucks less than previous version of Windows. But MS is too expensive now. They are not the cheap alternative to others, but rather they are the expensive option that people are now looking for alternatives to.
  • browser innovation (Score:5, Interesting)

    by David Jao ( 2759 ) <djao@dominia.org> on Monday March 03, 2003 @01:49PM (#5425131) Homepage
    Well now, I'm not going to chew out this article entirely, because most of it is an interesting read, but there are some places where the author is just plain ignorant. For example:
    Not yet under monopoly control, Internet technologies are a seething hotbed of innovation - with one exception. Once Microsoft's Internet Explorer reached 70% market share, the once blazing hot evolution of Web browsers came to a sudden screeching halt.
    The only insight this quote reveals is that the author uses Internet Explorer. It would be more accurate to say that "the once blazing hot evolution of Internet Explorer came to a sudden screeching halt."

    In almost every web browser other than Internet Explorer, innovation is alive and well -- we have popup blocking, ad blocking, tabbed browsing, fine grained scripting control, and nonlinear history traversal, all of which are genuinely valuable innovations that Internet Explorer would do well to adopt.

    • I'm glad that I don't use a browser that permits (by it's default settings) malicious html code to wipe my entire hard disk drive, implant viruses and or trojans and permits the hijacking of my data.

      Since I switched to Linux I no longer have any of those concerns. Virus? What's a virus??? :-)
    • No, the author is quite right. Look at it from most people's points of view.

      IE has (now) 90% of the market share. That means 90% of people use IE. What innovations has IE shown since it achieved that market share? Pretty much none.
      So from most people's perspective, there is no browser innovation.
      From your (our) perspective, you are quite correct, browser innovation is alive and well, but from most people (90%) it is, indeed, dead.

      As a comment on that. I've shown a few people mozilla and they ABSOLUTELY LOVE popup blocking and tabs. IE doesn't have them. These people didn't know such things existed.

      That's a failure on our part. We, as a community, need to start showing people these things more.
  • Virtual PC (Score:4, Interesting)

    by wadam ( 563519 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @01:56PM (#5425193) Homepage
    The successor to Windows XP (due in 2004, and rapidly slipping to 2005) is currently code named Longhorn, and it will not be compatible with your existing software, hardware or methods. Microsoft has already stated that backward compatibility will not be a design feature

    It seems that perhaps there is come credence to this statement. It occurs to me that perhaps the OS won't be backwards comatable at all, but MS just bought all of the Virtual PC technology from Connectix, and it makes a lot of sense that they would provide something similar to Classic in Mac OS X. The new OS would not be compatable with existing software, but the old software would still run in emulation. Not the perfect solution (as we've experienced with Classic), but not a bad solution either...

    Wadam
  • by drew_kime ( 303965 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @01:59PM (#5425217) Journal
    I notice there are quite a few posts dismissing this article. But many of them seem to have been posted within 30 minutes of the link going up on the front page. I suspect there are very few people who could read the whole thing with any degree of comprehension in that time. And of the ones who could, how many took the time to follow the supporting links?

    Like he said at the top, everything in there is based on "real trends well known in the industry". I haven't seen any criticisms yet that contradict this.
  • He so crazy. (Score:2, Informative)

    by dominic7 ( 70356 )
    It was all going well until:

    "The German Bundeswher (Department of Defense) has banned Microsoft products due to real and "suspected" security problems (like little back doors for the NSA (X64, X17), for instance)."

    Overall guy comes off as a right nutjob. If I were Microsoft I'd be thinking restraining order.
  • by Oswald ( 235719 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @02:13PM (#5425325)
    I'm no lover of Microsoft, but this article is long on accusation and short on substantiation. For instance, this gem:

    At the root of Microsoft's problems is its financial structure. Leveraged by stock options and other financial tricks (R7), it depends heavily on rapid revenue growth and increasing stock value. When you've saturated your market (over 90%), and that market is stagnant, rapid revenue growth becomes difficult. Should future growth look poor, holders of stock options are likely to cash out, and much of that $43 Billion evaporates.

    Where does he think the money goes, exactly? A large overhang of options is bad for stockholders (including Bill Gates, et al.) but it's a non-cash charge to the company, if they even choose to take the charge at all (which apparently they haven't in the past). If you check the linked reference in the article, it takes you to some rant that specifically tells you, among other things, not to try to read the financials for yourself, just take his word that there's massive abuse going on. Yeah, right.

    One of the ways a company can "make it up" to their shareholders for issuing a lot of options is to buy stock on the open market to take back those dilutive shares. According to this [microsoft.com] over the last three fiscal years, MS has spent (net) over US$11 billion repurchasing stock. Maybe Bill doesn't like having the value of his holdings beat down by options any more than any other stockholder does.

    I'm not saying everything in the article is bullshit, but I don't think I would run around quoting this guy until I did a lot of homework for myself.

    • I completely agree (Score:3, Insightful)

      by shylock0 ( 561559 )
      This post is right on. Go to Yahoo! finance [yahoo.com] and take a look at Microsoft's (MSFT) financials. It hasn't had any "rapid revenue growth." Microsoft's revenue has been fairly stable, or increased at a fairly stable rate, since the introduction of Windows 95.

      This particular paragraph -- the one pointed out by the parent post -- truly shows the ignorance of the person who wrote the article. The financial structure the author describes is typical of "new economy" companies -- Amazon.com, Priceline, and others which has long-since gone bankrupt, were all based on the principle of rapid revenue growth and increasing stock value. But NOT Microsoft, which has long been lauded by business leaders as a "new economy" company with an essentially "old economy" financial structure -- much more like IBM -- than a new economy structure which the author describes. Futhermore, Microsoft pioneered the idea of giving employees actual stock -- and not options. (I would be happy to clarify that point -- just post a question)

      The author of the article has absolutely no idea what he's talking about, at least when it comes to this paragraph. It looks like he's just throwing around buzzwords in an attempt to gain an audience.

      -Shylock0

      Questions and intelligent comments often answered. Flames ignored. Post responsibly.

  • by Sgs-Cruz ( 526085 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @02:14PM (#5425331) Homepage Journal
    The music industry, on the other hand, is a different matter - all the greed with none of the brains. I expect Hilary Rosen's RIAA to go hook line and sinker for Microsoft's promises. If they had two synapses to rub together they would have seen the power of Napster and turned it to their own advantage, but now, they'll be completely dependent on Microsoft for delivery, and that's going to cost them plenty.

    First of all, who writes a serious article like this with that kind of language. "Two synapses to rub together"... excuse me? That might be good for Slashdot-type casual discussion but if you want your article to be taken seriously by small business owners you can't be talking like that.

    Also, seen what power of Napster? The power to download music for free? Because let me assure you, that if they had 'leveraged the power of Napster' by charging some sort of money to get songs through it, that would have killed Napster just as effectively as suing the company did. Overall, this guy seems more like an angry geek with a vendetta than a serious business analyst.

  • Poor research (Score:3, Insightful)

    by briancnorton ( 586947 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @03:07PM (#5425705) Homepage
    In addition to the fragmented, poorly organized layout of this article, a couple of glaring mistakes jumped out at me.

    When he talks about Longhorn, he states that "all software will have to be re-written" but that's not true at all. As long as the APIs retain backwards compatibility, most programs should adapt to the new file system just fine. Some sophisticated tools may need to be redone from scratch, but hey, making an omlette requres breaking eggs.

    He also says some crap about having to pay a fee to microsoft to transfer files from a CD to your hard drive, because it is a database transfer. This to me just dosent sound right. CDFS isnt changing for the rest of the life of CDs. (I hope) CDs will always have files on them. Unless microsoft is adding value to something, they cant charge for it. Even Microsoft bashers dont accuse MS of this.

    The third thing is that "I find it probable Longhorn will largely end the use of reliable, low cost servers (Linux, NetWare) for Windows users. This will set the stage for serious increases in licensing costs for already costly Windows server software." How would microsoft's desktop OS possibly effect how people use low end servers running Linux or (???) Netware?

    This is an interesting summation, but the tabloid writing makes it not worth reading.

    • How would microsoft's desktop OS possibly effect how people use low end servers running Linux or (???) Netware?

      FileServer - If the desktop OS can no longer access the linux fileserver because there are no longer and "drives" or "folders" or even "files" -- this would possible affect the servers' use.

      As long as the APIs retain backwards compatibility, most programs should adapt to the new file system just fine

      Refer to the many, many posts that say that backward compatibility is not in the product design

  • by Erwos ( 553607 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @03:37PM (#5425931)
    I remember when Windows XP first came out (or was it in beta?), I was home from college, and talking to my family about the product activation scheme. We buy all the upgrades and such to Windows - our computers are running quite legally for the most part (you can never be sure, can you?). But it was midway through my explanation that I realized something that totally changed the way I thought about things:

    It is _never_ going to get better. Microsoft is going to treat me like a criminal forever. It's time to get out of this upgrade cycle. They are going to continually put out trash like WinME and then laugh their way to their porsche, bought with my money.

    After dinner, I went downstairs, burned myself some RedHat CDs, and installed them onto a second hard drive. I've never looked back since, and am considering wiping the Windows partition off for good.

    What I'm trying to say is, sometimes, losing a little bit of functionality for now is probably worth it to break out of the endless loop of paying money to Microsoft and getting shafted in return.

    -Erwos
  • by multimed ( 189254 ) <{moc.oohay} {ta} {aidemitlumrm}> on Monday March 03, 2003 @04:24PM (#5426321)
    While there were plenty of interesting (if not true) points, and some of the insights were wild speculation by some one clearly not exactly objective, I did find a couple of the quotes to be top-notch:
    A principle factor is that America's business leaders simply don't want to think about complex technology issues - they want to think about golf. Microsoft promises them that, and being a large, and hugely successful corporation, they have high credibility with top business executives.
    While terribly amusing, and sadly, all to true, that in a nutshell could be one of the biggest roadblocks to growing Linux adoption futher.
    Microsoft has direct access to high level managers, many of whom are strong admirers of Bill Gates' wealth,

    Something I've noticed subconsciously without actually considering. How anyone can be so entralled with wealth, let alone some one else's wealth is beyond me. And those in the postion of "decision makers" seem to be Gates fanboys a lot more than those of us actually dealing directly with MS products.

  • by bytesmythe ( 58644 ) <bytesmytheNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Monday March 03, 2003 @04:25PM (#5426327)
    I've noticed numerous criticisms of this article that are rather unfounded. I'll be the first to agree that the article's presentation is a tad hyperbolic, but here are a few things I've noticed that should be taken seriously:

    1) Microsoft breaking compatibility at the binary level.

    I'm not sure why no one thinks this would be likely. Microsoft would have little trouble writing a compatibility layer to make sure older applications continue to work, while ensuring that in order to upgrade them, you end up with new versions that only run natively on the new OS.

    2) New DB file system requiring a server.

    The article isn't necessarily referring to the commonly perceived notion of a server. A server in operating system terminology is NOTHING more than a program that responds to requests from client programs. When software is written this way, it makes it much easier to make that software able to run across networks, but having a network involved is NOT a requirement.

    Microsoft is researching a new file system format that uses database concepts. This will allow queries, transactional access to files, rollbacks, commits, etc. This will obviate the need for database systems that run independantly of the OS. Say good-bye to Windows platform competition in that area.

    And yes, the file format would be "incompatible" with others. Just like FAT-32 is incompatible with NTFS, to the point that the older Windows OSes can't read disks formatted with the newer OSes unless you purchase special software.

    3) Some people seem surprised that Microsoft might make even older hardware incompatible. They don't care. If they can push the XBox into enough homes, they can start controlling the PC hardware market, too. There would no longer be a need to try to pressure the various manufacturers into complying with Microsoft's whims. They make the hardware, supply the OS and software, make you pay a regular subscription fee to access it, and control all the content.

    Microsoft is getting ready to pull off something that Disney can only dream about. Unless, of course, they formed some kind of merger or other partnership... publishing, TV, movies, internet, gaming, and controlling the hardware and software involved in delivering it? It's a media mogul's wet dream, and Bill Gates is fast asleep with a big smile on his face.
  • by ignipotentis ( 461249 ) on Monday March 03, 2003 @05:07PM (#5426709)
    MS bought Virtual PC for a reason. They are porting it. The goal is to allow Windows Server 2003 to run apps built for NT4. Windows Server 2003 will not natively suport these apps, however, if you need to run them, then you should have a licensed copy of NT4 on hand. Basically, the virtual machine will become part of the native os, so you can install others in the enviroment.

    It is quite possible that this is the solution that will be used for for Longhorn. While the native OS will not be able to run the software, the VM will have no problem with it. Remember, MS isn't stupid. While their software may have security problems, and their buisness practices questionable... they do know what they are doing. If they didn't, why would the be everywhere?

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