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Review: Matrix: Reloaded 1294

PsndCsrV writes in with a review of the new Matrix movie, below. Rottentomatoes says that the reviews overall are more favorable than un-. Ebert likes it well enough.

PsndCsrV writes:

Due to some fortunate circumstances, I was able to partake of the Matrix goodness ahead of the release. Overall, I thought the movie was excellent, but there were some issues (for me, at least) that kept it from being spectacular. It's definitely worth seeing, and if you're worried about it not being that good, go see a matinee screening and skip the popcorn. ;-) It is a blatant cliffhanger, though, so if that drives you nuts, you better just wait until November. Keep reading for a more in depth look, and I'll try not to let any spoilers slip.

The special effects were great. I personally didn't see anything totally revolutionary in them... it seems like most of it was simply "bullet time", but more refined, utilizing CG where cameras don't make it. Only a couple of times did I feel that the CG wasn't quite right, and even then it wasn't due to the impossibility of the action. It was mostly due to a character's arms/legs/hair/clothes that didn't move 100% naturally during a stunt, which is definitely difficult to get right. There was only a couple instances in 1 scene that come to mind immediately, so the effects people did an excellent job.

One of the main criticisms of the first Matrix was the lack of character development. Well, I won't lie to you... there's not a whole lot of character development in this one either. There was more, but not for any of the main characters really. A little more insight into Morpheus's life, a new take on the Oracle, the introduction of some new characters, and the whole thing going on with Agent Smith. But there are still a lot of gaps in the characters, but Reloaded does make you feel like you're starting to understand things better, and that the next movie will be very enlightening.

One of the best after-effects of the first Matrix was the way it made you question your own take on reality. It really made you wonder what's real, and what's not. What's important to me, and what's not. Or maybe I was just being overly philosophical about it. Reloaded really does a good job of leaving you questioning, but this time, you're speculating about the movie and where it will head... how things will be resolved. Reloaded ends with many loose ends, and many questions unanswered, but at the same time, it's an excellent opportunity to speculate. I definitely want to see Revolutions now, and it's a good thing I only have to wait 6 months.

The movie also flowed well. I didn't ever feel like a scene was put in "just because", except once. I personally felt that the love scene between Neo and Trinity was a little overboard, and that a lot more could have been said with a much more subtle approach. Intermixed with this, were shots of the people of Zion having a wild dance party/orgy. Ok, so the orgy was implied with the whole sexual nature of the dance scene. I couldn't help but relate it to Herbert's Fremen spice orgy in Dune, except without the spice. It struck me as the same type of situation.

To sum it up, I really enjoyed it. My only big complaint was the love scene, but I am a conservative person. Other people will undoubtedly love the movie just for that scene. The rest of the movies was great, and definitely sets up Revolutions as a must see.

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Review: Matrix: Reloaded

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  • by jkabbe ( 631234 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @05:05AM (#5962176)
    I didn't get philosophical about the first Matrix movie. But, I'm not a chick, so that makes sense.
  • by jafo ( 11982 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @05:08AM (#5962183) Homepage
    Tell me, Mister Coward, what good is a reply button if you are unable to type?

    Sean
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 15, 2003 @05:16AM (#5962214)
    How about I give you the finger and you give me my phone call.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 15, 2003 @05:18AM (#5962232)
    just stare at your screen, those graphics are computer generated.
  • by jsse ( 254124 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @05:22AM (#5962247) Homepage Journal
    laughed out loud when I saw the terminal with ssh 10.2.2.2 on it ;)

    That's what pissed Matrix - encrypted session that it can't spy on - damn hackers.

    Only one thing that could stop them from hiding themselves in encrypted channels, and that'd be the major theme of next sequel - Matrix - Super DMCA
  • by c.emmertfoster ( 577356 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @05:29AM (#5962274)
    Go drink some Poweraid. Perhaps that will make you feel better.
  • by NTmatter ( 589153 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @05:43AM (#5962330) Homepage
    The following is a major plot spoiler:

    About halfway through the movie, it is revealed that spoons *do* exist. (Halfway would be defined as the part that's after the sex, but before the violence).

    Overall, this movie is entertaining. It's got lots of eye candy, and it's worth a few good laughs--watching Trinity use "ssh 10.2.2.2 -l root" had the theatre chuckling in their seats.
  • by sweetooth ( 21075 ) * on Thursday May 15, 2003 @05:46AM (#5962341) Homepage
    You are probably right that there are definatly cg mistakes, but it's a bit hard to tell on the big screen playing at full speed. I also think the other people in the audience might have kicked my ass if I had asked the projectionist to show it to us slow enough that we could catch those errors ;)
  • sponsors: Audi, Cadillac, and Ducati.

    Warner Brothers would also like to thank Armani, Rayban, and Samsung for their generous support in outfitting the cast.

    For those of you who have seen the movie you know I am not making this up. I am surprised I did not see a Taco Bell inside Zion.

  • by VValdo ( 10446 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @05:56AM (#5962374)
    I noticed the SSH as well.

    Judging from the four-integer IP, we finally have confirmation that IPv6 has still not been adopted after 5 generations of Zion...

    W
  • by Thaidog ( 235587 ) <slashdot753@@@nym...hush...com> on Thursday May 15, 2003 @06:11AM (#5962419)
    ...is what were the programs used... Maya... renderman...? And of course what the renderfarm hardware was...etc... anybody?
  • by 3.1415926535 ( 243140 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @06:24AM (#5962451)
    Then again I laughed out loud when I saw the terminal with ssh 10.2.2.2 on it ;)

    Here at Caltech our student association bought out a showing of Reloaded. Imagine a large movie theater containing an entire campus worth of nerds all seeing ssh -l root 10.2.2.2 on the screen at the same time...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 15, 2003 @06:31AM (#5962467)
    And, uh, why exactly are you heading for the bathroom during the sex scene?
  • by c.emmertfoster ( 577356 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @06:33AM (#5962470)
    Yes, I also read too much into things when I smoke tons of dope.
  • by iworm ( 132527 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @06:42AM (#5962493)
    There is a scene where Neo intentionally places his hand inside of Trinity to help her.

    Wayhay!!! Sounds more and more like my kind of movie...
  • by Dreetje ( 672686 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @06:48AM (#5962506) Homepage
    Judging from the four-integer IP, we finally have confirmation that IPv6 has still not been adopted after 5 generations of Zion...

    You are forgetting it's the matrix. You think you see an old ip. The real truth actually is: There is no ip!

    This revelation has been brought to you by:
  • by Luigi30 ( 656867 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @07:09AM (#5962553)
    1. Make a cash cow movie 2. Make multiple sequels. 3. ??? 4. PROFIT! /me glares at George Lucas...
  • by worst_name_ever ( 633374 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @08:13AM (#5962844)
    SPOILERS BEEP BEEP BEEP SPOILERS BEEP BEEP BEEP

    ...and then, like, half the plot twists were gone. And I was like, hunh? It was a really good movie. And then I had to watch it again but I knew the ending so it wasn't as good.

  • by erikturk ( 599150 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @08:19AM (#5962881)
    Because if he did I would have yelled out "San Dimas High School Rules!!!!"
  • by poopdik ( 623969 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @08:48AM (#5963085) Journal
    I'm glad I wasn't the only person who understood the whole damn movie. I had to explain, at length, all of the rules of the game to everyone in the group I was with.

    Okay, well my background in Computer Engineering, OS Design, and a brief stint coding military simulations probably helped.


    Oh god, you're ego is really making me hot. Stroke it baby, STROKE IT!!!.. Yeah, just like that. Oh yeah.. OOOOOH YEEEEEEAH.
  • by Nice2Cats ( 557310 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @08:50AM (#5963093)
    Unfortunately, the love scene between Neo and Trinity gives away most of the plot of the third part. Their child will be, of course, none other than the Kwisatz Haderach, The True One whose powers will not only transcend the Matrix, but also the physical universe. A trained mentat, he will be the instrument humanity uses to turn the tables on the machines, downloading their programs one by one into his brain, and turning their reality into a virtual virtual world of his command.

    This sets the stage for a time when a machine will come that sees through his tricks, and rises up to free silicon from the enslavement of the human brain, in a new trilogy aptly named

    The Rematrix

    Bummer they gave all of this away just to show Carrie-Anne in her birthday suit...

  • I left the movie with one thought:

    chroot

    Think about it, they rebels are always looking for their "exit"

  • I couldn't belive it, but Agent Smith is Neos FATHER!
  • by Mephie ( 582671 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @09:21AM (#5963330) Homepage
    Aren't these matrix kids essentially able to do "superhuman" stuff in the matrix because they realize what's going on and can put their mind beyond it? This is of course generalized, but if I remember correctly, that's basically the gist.

    If that's the case, couldn't the machines just write better code? Like say, slap together a couple of simple booleans and add in a line like this (with better formatting) in main():

    if (ishuman(mynum) && isrestricted(action)) {
    dontallow();
    }

    One would think that'd pretty well patch up the matrix. It could be The Matrix - Service Pack One. Am I right? Maybe I need to see the movie again, but honestly, I'd rather not. If someone can help me out with this concept I'd appreciate it.

  • by r-dass ( 30901 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @09:44AM (#5963508)
    But according to this movie, they were getting ready to apply SP6 ;)
  • by santos_douglas ( 633335 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @09:53AM (#5963598) Journal
    Andy Richter (formerly of Late night with Conan O'Brian fame) had what had to be the funniest line about this film:

    "...make no doubt about it, this is a geek movie, in fact this is geek porn..."

  • by 13th century bard ( 673523 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @10:32AM (#5963923)
    Alright - blanket license to say methinks to mine heart's content.
  • by PseudoThink ( 576121 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @11:02AM (#5964223)
    I've heard this same diatribe from several people, worded almost the same way. Not actually having taken a philosophy class myself, I thought the first Matrix was fairly thought-provoking, and I assumed it derived much of its material from preexisting philosophical sources. So I'm left with the question: does attending one or more philosophy classes always turn a person into an elitist asshole, or only some?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 15, 2003 @11:10AM (#5964305)
    "In the future, free-born caucasions are a minority."

    If Keanu is the best computer hacker, then its a good bet all the smart white guys are dead.

    And if Keanu is the ultimate computer hacker, it shows the machines have killed all the smart people in the world off.

    Yeah, well, I don't care what you think.
  • by GS11_Pus ( 578643 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @11:37AM (#5964601)

    There is definitely an overabundance of elitist philosophical assholes on Slashdot...

    But I guess that is like pointing out that there is a lot of corn in Nebraska.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 15, 2003 @12:20PM (#5965066)
    You mean the things with the things?

    Yeah that was neat.

    Maybe in the next thing the thing will do that thing to those other things. And' we'll finally know what that one thing was.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 15, 2003 @12:22PM (#5965094)
    Unfortunately, no one can be told what the honeypot is; you have to see it for yourself.
  • by sethadam1 ( 530629 ) * <ascheinberg@gmai ... minus physicist> on Thursday May 15, 2003 @12:28PM (#5965145) Homepage
    No, not everyone who takes a philosphy class is an elitist asshole. Some come out a pretenious prick, an arrogant dickhead, a pompous ass, or a holier-than-thou fuckwad.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 15, 2003 @12:47PM (#5965319)
    "Maybe the true creators are just humans running a big simulation designed to eventually produce a sentient life form with free will, self determination, emotions, etc. It had failed 5 times until Trinity stumbled upon the solution: Love."

    Well, if the only thing accomplished in these films is to give emotions to Woody^H^H^H^H^HKeanu... colour me impressed.
  • by PostConsumerRecycled ( 653177 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @01:56PM (#5965970)
    Nah, that's just Kenau's acting
  • by Feral Bueller ( 615138 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @02:08PM (#5966089) Homepage
    Oracular paradoxes -- "What's really going to bake your noodle later is if you would have done it if I hadn't have said anything" -- are part of greek mythology.

    I think noodles were invented by the Chinese. How did the Greeks know about the Chinese? Do the Greeks even cook with noodles?

  • I mean, the phone companies still won't give anyone 867-5309 (Jenny) because of all the call's they will get - and that was a one hit wonder of a song...

    Ack! That's my phone number, you insensitive clod! ;)

    -T

  • by infinite9 ( 319274 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @03:16PM (#5966748)
    I know that Oracle is a program. I have the installation CD right here.
  • by cliffmeece ( 653677 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @04:10PM (#5967246)
    Furthermore, assume that neo finally 'wakes up' out of zion/matrix and comes into the 'real' world of people/creatures who programmed the whole thing. Neo asks them how he can be sure that this is now the 'real' real world and they tell him that no one knows, but they suspect there may be several more levels.

    It's like that zen parable:
    A student comes before the master and asks him, 'Master what is the world?'.
    The Master answers, 'The world rests on the back of an immense turtle'.
    The student ponders this and then asks, 'What does the turtle stand upon?'.
    The Master pauses and then answers, " The Turtle stands upon the back of a giant elephant."
    The student then asks, "Well, what does the elephant stand on?"
    The master says, "He stands on the back of an even larger elephant."
    "And that elephant stands on...?", asks the student.
    The master pauses and thinks for a moment and then replies, 'It's basically Elephants all the way down from there."

  • The Cake. (Score:2, Funny)

    by dustinmarc ( 654964 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @05:26PM (#5967984)
    I just saw the movie and thought it was pretty decent. Not to hard to understand really. The only question I have is where can I get my hands on some of that cake.
  • by ShortedOut ( 456658 ) on Thursday May 15, 2003 @06:01PM (#5968291) Journal
    It's simple, the little pill he took in Episode one started his acid trip. We're all just witnessing what goes on in the mind of someone who takes the designer drug "Matrix".

    At the end of Ep 3 we'll see him wake up from his trip.

    But between now and then, he can do anything in his own mind, he has to just realize that he's tripping to come back to reality.

    A reality where Agent Smith is really the DEA and Morpheus is really a crack dealer at the Carter.
  • I wonder... (Score:2, Funny)

    by sharph ( 171971 ) <sharp@sauropod.org> on Thursday May 15, 2003 @07:48PM (#5968976) Homepage
    How many hits thematrix.com's firewall has picked up on port 22 since this movie was realesed.

    They can't say they weren't asking for it.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 15, 2003 @10:03PM (#5969610)
    does anyone else find the phrase philosophical community frankly baffling?
  • by sharph ( 171971 ) <sharp@sauropod.org> on Thursday May 15, 2003 @10:43PM (#5969784) Homepage
    [NOTE: This is a very big rant, and I'm warning you now that if you're the type of person that doesn't like reading rants....well then don't read it. (My comments are inclosed in []'s)]

    May 14, 2003

    Neo Keanu Reeves
    Morpheus Laurence Fishburne
    Agent Smith Hugo Weaving
    Trinity Carrie-Anne Moss
    Oracle Gloria Foster
    Niobe Jada Pinkett Smith
    Zee Nona Gaye
    Lock Harry Lennix
    Link Harold Perrineau
    Persephone Monica Bellucci
    Twins Neil and Adrian Rayment

    Warner Bros. presents a film written and directed by Andy Wachowski and Larry Wachowski. Running time: 138 minutes. Rated R (for sci-fi violence and some sexuality).

    BY ROGER EBERT

    Commander Lock: "Not everyone believes what you believe."

    Morpheus: "My beliefs do not require that they do."

    Characters are always talking like this in "The Matrix Reloaded," which plays like a collaboration involving a geek, a comic book and the smartest kid in Philosophy 101. Morpheus in particular unreels extended speeches that remind me of Laurence Olivier's remarks when he won his honorary Oscar--the speech that had Jon Voight going "God!" on TV, but in print turned out to be quasi-Shakespearean doublespeak. The speeches provide not meaning, but the effect of meaning: It sure sounds like those guys are saying some profound things.

    That will not prevent fanboys from analyzing the philosophy of "The Matrix Reloaded" in endless Web postings. Part of the fun is becoming an expert in the deep meaning of shallow pop mythology; there is something refreshingly ironic about becoming an authority on the transient extrusions of mass culture, and Morpheus (Laurence Fishburne) now joins Obi-Wan Kenobi as the Plato of our age.

    [Shallow pop mythology? If you ask me the Matrix is pretty deep. The part where Neo gets power in "the real world" is pretty weird, but who is to say this could not happen? Buddist monks can make them selves lighter and run faster just by thinking of it.]

    I say this not in disapproval, but in amusement. "The Matrix" (1999), written and directed by the brothers Andy and Larry Wachowski, inspired so much inflamed pseudo-philosophy that it's all "The Matrix Reloaded" can do to stay ahead of its followers. It is an immensely skillful sci-fi adventure, combining the usual elements: heroes and villains, special effects and stunts, chases and explosions, romance and oratory. It develops its world with more detail than the first movie was able to afford, gives us our first glimpse of the underground human city of Zion, burrows closer to the heart of the secret of the Matrix, and promotes its hero, Neo, from confused draftee to a Christ figure in training.

    [Pseudo-philosophy? Whatever, I just disagree.]

    As we learned in "The Matrix," the Machines need human bodies, millions and millions of them, for their ability to generate electricity. In an astonishing sequence, we saw countless bodies locked in pods around central cores that extended out of sight above and below. The Matrix is the virtual reality that provides the minds of these sleepers with the illusion that they are active and productive. Questions arise, such as, is there no more efficient way to generate power? And why give the humans dreams when they would generate just as much energy if comatose? And why create such a complex virtual world for each and every one of them, when they could all be given the same illusion and be none the wiser? Why is each dreamer himself or herself, occupying the same body in virtual reality as the one asleep in the pod?

    [Why not?]

    But never mind. [Okay...] We are grateful that 250,000 humans have escaped from the grid of the Matrix, and gathered to build Zion, which is "near the Earth's core--where there is more heat." As the movie opens, we are alarmed to learn that the Machines are drilling toward Zion so quickly that they will arrive in 36 hours. We may also wonder if Zion and its free citizens really exist, or if the humans only think so, but that leads to a lo
  • by Xenex ( 97062 ) * <xenex@nospaM.opinionstick.com> on Friday May 16, 2003 @05:50AM (#5971060) Journal
    say for instance, your comp can only print out numbers, theres no way you can type a sentence from it
    You're just begging for someone 1337 to come along and post a reply in all numbers, aren't you?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 18, 2003 @10:52AM (#5985397)
    Yes, that Porn was shocking. I was not ready for that blatant pornography in a family film such as the Matrix.

    Imagine my disgust when the violence erupted on-screen too! Whole scenes dedicated to pure, raw, action-packed CARNAGE! I had to shield my children's eyes from the mayhem and destruction.

    I nearly walked out when they killed dozens of security gaurds in hand-to hand combat and a huge series of explosions.

    I went to see The Matrix because I wanted a wholesome family movie about people living underground, flying in hovercrafts, with some philosophy on the side. What I got was an ultra-violent porno about girls in leather on bicycles and a guy in a Columbine-era trenchcoat!

    Absolutely disgusting!

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