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The Matrix Media Movies Security

Nmap Featured in The Matrix Reloaded 651

rajiv was among dozens to report that unlike most "Hacks" in film, The Matrix reloaded actually has an ounce of reality where other films would rely on fancy 3D graphics. You can see more at Insecure.org where they have screenshots. It's only on screen for a split second, but Tritnity uses Nmap to find a vulnerable SSH server, and then exploits it using the SSH1 CRC32 exploit from 2001.
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Nmap Featured in The Matrix Reloaded

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  • Re:Nice Password (Score:3, Insightful)

    by cubedbee ( 629822 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @10:39AM (#5985327)
    That's Zion0101, i.e Zion5. This is the fifth incarnation of the city, after all. But nobody is supposed to know that...
  • by The Only Druid ( 587299 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @10:48AM (#5985375)
    Thats the point: the world has progressed most likely. The matrix has apparently been running between 500 and 600 years (since The One is a systemic anomoly, and Morpheus makes repeated note that this current Zion has been around for 100 years, its likely that each One takes 100 years). Most likely, after the first [Utopic] Matrix failed, they did one of the following:

    1: To periodically reset the time in the matrix, by permitting all the adults to die while not maintaining crops of infants in suspended animation. Once the adults died, they would then revive the children, and have software "parents" raise them. I dont really like this option, it seems pretty unlikely.

    2: The first matrix after the Utopic failure was set in the 14th century, i.e. the beginnings of the Renaissance. This would fit with Smith's description of "the peak of your civilization", depending on your perspective, since this was the period of scientific enlightment. This also sits well with the Oracle's statement that the myths of supernatural creatures all derive from bugs/rogue programs in the Matrix. This also sits well with the idea of the first One appearing, since this was a period wherein people were dramatically reforming their conception of the universe.

    There are probably other solutions, but these are two I've thought of.
  • Re:Uhm... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mrpuffypants ( 444598 ) <mrpuffypants@gmailTIGER.com minus cat> on Sunday May 18, 2003 @10:54AM (#5985401)
    Don't forget that the matrix was simply a projection of the world as it was circa 1999-2001

    In that regard it would be rather accurate.
  • by Gray ( 5042 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @10:58AM (#5985416)
    Now if only that human body as a power supply thing made a lick of sense.

    I hope some Saberhagen Berserker's show up in the next movie and settle everybodies hash real good.
  • by WWWWolf ( 2428 ) <wwwwolf@iki.fi> on Sunday May 18, 2003 @11:00AM (#5985428) Homepage
    Now we know that we cannot hack into the Matrix from our Personal Computer: As you can see on the screenshot, the IP is 10.2.2.2, ...

    Well at least they bothered to use the RFC 1918 space in same vein as the 555-xxxx phone numbers. Same as in "AntiTrust". I guess Hollywood folks gringe every time someone mentions "Hackers" and the impossible IP addresses in it =)

  • Re:Uhm... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by CoolVibe ( 11466 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @11:51AM (#5985657) Journal
    check the IP number (10.x.x.x, private IANA), it was not on the public internet...

  • by turbod ( 114654 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @12:00PM (#5985698)
    Ever heard of custom software?

    Besides, why would the average grid operator want to individually log into the grid substations and disable them? A nice concise unix command would fire off scripts to do all that.... and yes, if I were the operator I'd want confirmation..

    Finally, this is just fiction, ya know? Heck, they used SSH though to make an appeal to geeks :)

    TurboD
  • Re:Uhm... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Aglassis ( 10161 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @12:51PM (#5985971)
    Yes this is all assuming that there isn't a meta-matrix in which the matrix is run. It seems pretty obvious to me that that is what the last scene was trying to portray in a subtle way.

    And if there is a meta-matrix, what prevents having a meta-meta-matrix and so on? Its really impossible to speculate the age of the matrix based on this information.
  • Re:Screen Shots ?! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Istealmymusic ( 573079 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @01:05PM (#5986049) Homepage Journal
    Is there anything morally wrong with downloading an esoteric release of Reloaded online? I went to the movies, paid my money, contributing to the $44 billion or so profit of Warner Brothers. I don't feel guilty downloading a crappy quality VCD to notice all the details and things I missed. (But I did notice the terminal with ssh and nmap on it).

    Nothing wrong at all.

  • by HardCase ( 14757 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @01:10PM (#5986083)
    ...who's always talking during the movie. Hey, do you have a cell phone too? And a beeper? Maybe a crying child or two?


    All of this managed to make my Matrix experience just that much harder to enjoy.


    -h-

  • Re:Uhm... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by edunbar93 ( 141167 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @01:20PM (#5986142)
    check the IP number (10.x.x.x, private IANA), it was not on the public internet...

    Heh. So?

    So that means that the guys who were doing the hacking previous to Trinity's arrival broke into the public network (or, perhaps they don't have one, but instead the building they were in was appropriately inside their private network) and she was working from a unix box inside the private network that the power station was on. It's like how a lot of crackers these days say that networks tend to be like porcupines: hard and secure on the outside, but nice and soft underneath. They probably never bothered to secure their old SSH1 daemons because they were secure in the belief that noone would get far enough to exploit it. :)
  • z1on password (Score:2, Insightful)

    by dangil ( 167785 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @04:08PM (#5987114)
    z1on0101 is the password trinity uses when overriding the powerplant password...

    I would put this password first in line on my dictionary for password attacks....

    I know all my servers will have this password from now on..
  • Re:Screen Shots ?! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by feepness ( 543479 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @04:16PM (#5987174)
    Is there anything morally wrong with downloading an esoteric release of Reloaded online? I went to the movies, paid my money, contributing to the $44 billion or so profit of Warner Brothers. I don't feel guilty downloading a crappy quality VCD to notice all the details and things I missed. (But I did notice the terminal with ssh and nmap on it).

    Nothing wrong at all.


    It's irrelevant how you feel. Guilt is based on legality, under which you clearly are guilty. Whether it's wrong or not is an entirely different matter, but as a matter of principle I've always operated under "two wrongs don't make a right".
  • Re:Nice Password (Score:4, Insightful)

    by soundofthemoon ( 623369 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @06:01PM (#5987866)
    Zion0101 is the 6th Zion.

    It's zero-based, duh.
  • Re:Nice Password (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Nutcase ( 86887 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @07:02PM (#5988181) Homepage Journal
    Actually, I just got back from seeing it for the 2nd time (I know, I know, I'm behind the curve.. but trying to catch up)

    The Architect says the machines have destroyed zion 6 times already, and are getting quite efficient at it. Which would imply that this is the 7th iteration of Zion.

    However, the Merovingian saying 5 predecessors throws that off. The only real way to make them fit is to determine that the first Zion must not have had a "The One" - it just got too big because of the "utopian" nature of the first matrix, so they wiped it and started again, adding a "The One" to the second Matrix. This goes with the Architect saying that the "mother" of the matrix determined how to make people happy within it on the second go-round. It also means that the current iteration of the Matrix is 7th, as is the current iteration of Zion (which i am more and more convinced is just an overflow buffer for the matrix core) - But Neo is only the 6th "The One"

    The real question is if the design had him going into the core or back to rescue Trinity. Did he do what they expected or not? The architect says he was supposed to go into the source. But he sounds totally unsurprised and even describes the emotions and such that lead him NOT to go into the core. So maybe that's part of the plan.

    All I know is the next one is gonna rock even harder, as we hopefully get some resolution on all this.

    Oh - and the screen that the camera goes through into the interogation room in the first one is one of the architects screens. This fact alone is enough to make me believe that they had all this insanity planned from the start. Groovy.
  • Re:A theory (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jmccay ( 70985 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:33PM (#5988866) Journal
    Basically, I agree, but I think he got the ability to stop the machines from Mr. Smith. There are a couple lines that point to this. Remember when Mr. Smith says that there is a connection between Neo and himself, and I think the architect had a line that hinted he some code too. I believe that Neo has access to the Machines Mainframe because of code that came from Mr. Smith (the fore mentioned connection) when he "Merge/Destroyed" Mr. Smith (and Mr. Smith gained some of the code that represents Neo in the matrix when this happened which gave him some of the freedom he now has to operate freely in the matrix outside of his normal programming).
    Remember, Mr. Smith tells himself at one point that everything is the same except for him (just after he made a new copy). So there is differences between the five previous "ones" and the current situation. Remember, the architect was surprised at how fast Neo answered who the mother of the matrix was.
    Because of the altered code from Mr. Smith (remember the Agents can control the Sentinels), Neo was able to sense and stop the Sentinels from the Machine's mainframe.
  • Re:2001? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by kisrael ( 134664 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @10:17PM (#5989035) Homepage
    Jeez, who moderates these things??

    A -1 Overrated? I thought the point about the popups was a little valid. Combined with a previous -1 Redundant on a previous post that as far as I can tell was the only one on its subject...it makes me a little sad. I just tell myself it's n00bs taking "use 'em or lose 'em" a little too literally...gotta moderate *something*
  • by reverseengineer ( 580922 ) on Monday May 19, 2003 @12:01AM (#5989396)
    The Merovingians weren't terribly interesting in a historical sense- they set up shop in the power vacuum left by the Romans, and ruled over the Franks for a few hundred years (5th to 8th century CE). Their rules regarding inheritance were not terribly well thought out (kingdoms were split among surviving sons), and so the kingdom slowly fragmented. Also, Ummayad Muslims were starting to make incursions over the Pyrennes. With the fragmentation of central royal authority, real power was held by palace mayors. One of these, Charles "The Hammer" Martel turned back the Arabs at Tours, which was a turning point not only against the Arabs, but for the balance of power in the kingdom. Charles Martel's son, Pepin the Short, became king of the Franks. His son, Charles, would go on to found the Carolingian dynasty and become the first Holy Roman Emperor in 800 CE; he is better known as Charles the Great, or Charlemagne.

    So, the actual history of the Merovingians, not so exciting. The mythology is better though, and far more relevant to "The Matrix." The founder of the Merovingians, Merovec, is considered to be somewhat mythical. The first Merovingian for which there is good historical evidence for is Merovec's supposed grandson, Clovis. As the above poster notes, one story has Merovec as half beast. Other accounts (with connections to Gnostic Christianity, a subject that has been much discussed in relation to "The Matrix") claim that Merovec was the descendant of Jesus (and Mary Magdelene). Yeah, I know, but just bear with me. Now, after the Carolingians took over, supposedly a secret society was formed to reinstall the Merovingians to the throne (after all, who could have more authority than someone with the bloodline of David and Jesus?). This society is named the Prieure de Sion, or the Priory of Zion. (ominous music plays for effect)

    This secret society, as all secret societies eventually must (seems to be a rule of conspiracy theory), has been linked to the Knights Templar (which were quite real, actually (formed during the Crusades, became quite wealthy through guarding banking transactions, like a medieval Brinks, were annihilated by Philip the Fair in 1307), though the mythology that has sprung up regarding them is vast) and through them to every secret society you've ever heard of- the Freemasons, the Illuminati, etc.... In other words, the character "the Merovingian" is connected in name to bunch of real world secret conspiracy plots, just the sort of thing you'd like for a fictional character connected in deep with secret conspiracy plots. I must admit it's nice to see that the brothers Wachowski have really done their homework.

  • by WindBourne ( 631190 ) on Monday May 19, 2003 @03:31AM (#5989955) Journal
    The truely funny part is that the stack is from BSD. MS went to a great deal of work to try and hide it (they failed miserably, but they still worked hard). Now, you try to make it look like BSD.

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