Return Of The King Footage From E3 166
Arathorn writes "TheOneRing.net has a Quicktime movie up of just over a minute's worth of live footage from Return of The King , as shown at E3. The quality's pretty abysmal, but it gives a much-needed taster of what RoTK's going to look like. The soundtrack (such as it is) is from the final act of The Two Towers." Update: 05/21 18:47 GMT by T : Reader Adam Roben has set up a BitTorrent session as well.
I can't wait (Score:5, Funny)
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Wow, live footage (Score:5, Interesting)
But seriously, one minute of footage in poor quality out of 180 isn't too much to get excited about. Just wait for the movie, folks. It's not that much longer. We had to wait 18 years for the fourth star wars movie.
Re:Wow, live footage (Score:5, Funny)
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What are you talking about? The fourth movie came out in 77!
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I'd withold judgement till Ep 3 is out, they need cartoons [slashdot.org]
to bridge the gap between Ep2 and Ep3 I have a bad feeling about this.
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"The King" means he is the one and only king.
I suppose it could go either way in this context (king of the dwarves, king of the elves, king of the humans), but the fact that "the" is an article doesn't automatically mean it isn't capitalized.
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When did Elvis enter into this?
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Umm... the game? (Score:5, Informative)
At least, that's what the article seems to imply.
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Re:Umm... the game? (Score:1)
Dialup, what's that?
Re:Umm... the game? (Score:2)
Stop complaining and enjoy this premiere. I enjoyed it.
Re:Umm... the game? (Score:2)
I bet he has heard of a tripod, and probably wished he had one, but would have no convenient place to put it when he finished filming.
For the game but has scenes from the movie (Score:5, Informative)
The reason for the bad quality (Score:4, Insightful)
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Thank you for that insightful comment. Perhaps this explains why the title of the Slashdot article says "Footage from E3." And the way the camera moves around and people are talking in the background, I would never have guesses that this was actually a video tape.
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We already know what it would look like (Score:5, Informative)
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And perhaps go back and fiddle with their old movies - look at lucas and starwars
Re:We already know what it would look like (Score:1)
Or were you being ironic?
Re:We already know what it would look like (Score:3, Interesting)
Also, if the films are shot over a long period of time, characters can change in their appearance, especially
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Yes, since Dumbledore is in the 3rd and 4th books, one would expect he was supposed to be in those movies, too.
Re:We already know what it would look like (Score:4, Interesting)
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I'm still f*cking pissed they turned Gimli into a comic sidekick in Two Towers. I thought the original foolhardy and arrogant Gimli of the book was amusing enough.
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true, but the films are dynamic productions, people have just finished filming scenes requiring people with a nordic look, weta's pumping fx like some MASSIVEly amped beowulf supercluster, and the costume of Legolas and Gimli were strangley absent at the rings exhibition...
so yeah we know what it will look like...like something your grandkids look up on google when they type in: who's won the most oscars ever :)
I don't know about you (Score:2)
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LAME.... (Score:1, Flamebait)
Summary of footage (Score:3, Funny)
And it ends with some crappy looking fighting by Gandalf that HAS to be from the video game, or I would kill myself watching that on a big screen.
Re:Summary of footage (Score:2)
Might've been the cameraman playing with his camera whole he was sitting in the cinema
(Aha! Real purpose of footage revealed! He was trying to get a closeup of thingamajich's breasts!) Say, there wasn't any shuddering while he was filming this, was there?
BTW, just a question....could you spot the difference between a movie shot in (for example) the UK and Nieuw Zeealand?
(I know I can, but then I drive through/over it everyday - looks a lot like the UK if you ask m
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Spoiler (Score:4, Funny)
It mentioned this being a "spoiler" on the website,but who the fuck hasn't read the book?
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It wasn't until two months before the release of The Two Towers movie that I began with The Hobbit. By the time I saw TTT I was halfway through reading Fellowship. Around the end of March I had just finished reading Return of the King.
I'm glad I waited until now to read them, because I definatly had a better appreciation for what he wrote. Up until then everything was a spoi
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Once the 1st movie came out I thought about reading the books, but decided I'd rather enjoy them in movie form first, and then fill in the gaps with the books.
I hate knowing the ending to a movie, and so will not read the books until after I see the 3rd movie.
I did read The Hobbit though..
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"Oh, MAN! We have to wait another whole YEAR to find out how it ends!"
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I haven't read the book! (Don't like travelogs !)
LotR Music (Score:2, Insightful)
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The memorability of both Star Wars and Raiders is a factor of time and how much both have penetrated Western culture. The themes from both have been played, parodied, and imitated a thousand times over the last two decades. Also, both are much less epics than rollicking adventure films which lend themselves more to a contemporary theme. Don't get me wrong - I love (and own) both the Raiders and Star Wars soundtracks - but I went straight out and bought both Ring soundtracks as soon as they were available.
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Now listen to the first track of the Two Towers. There is the rise, and fall with Gandalf, but instead of becoming a mournful piece, since th
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Actually I need to see TTT again - I must have missed the first half an hour because I was so stunned by the opening five minutes.
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That may be part of the reason why those themes are so memorable, but in twenty years I will still not be able to hum the opening to The Two Towers.
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Agreed. The music is tame, and the central theme is one of the most boring ever heard in an "epic". My opinion of course.
They should have gone for something like "Requiem for the Ring", which was used in the Two Towers trailer. For those of you who haven't heard it, it's a reorchestration of the "Requiem for a dream" theme, originally by Clint Mansell.
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Oh god, that drove me up the wall. I'm sure it sounded great in the original context, but LotR is the type of epic that screams out for loud, heavy Wagnerian orchestral scores. The soundtrack to the trailer had a sort of throbbing feel to it, like it was just re-orchestrated pop music. Didn't fit in at all with the medieval fantasy world.
Actually, re-use of standard music in trailers has become mo
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My favorite was when they used something that sounded like a re-make of Led Zeppelin's "Bring it on Home" in the trailer for the Flipper movie, starring Elijah Wood, Paul "Crocodile Dundee" Hogan, and a smart-ass dolphin.
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What are you talking about? I can hum the main theme to LotR right now! It goes:
Bah de bah, bah de bah, bah de bah, bah de da, da, da...
Or wait, is that Volkswagon theme.... Damn.
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Maybe they could put out a remastered DVD with the soundtrack composed of all Middle-Earth themed songs by Led Zeppelin [ledtolkien.com].
Or try the unofficial danish LOTR trailer :- (Score:4, Interesting)
Dont download it, dont go and see it (Score:1, Troll)
I must advise you not to have anything to do with this adulteration. If you haven't read the book then you'll get much more out of that than out of the film. If you have read the book then after seeing the Two Towers you should know better.
The Lord of the Rings is a great piece of work and the fact is that if the One Ring ever went to Gondor then Sauron would've noticed it, GAME OVER. Journey to Mount Doom was only possible because Faramir unlike his hot headed brother had the good sense to allow Frodo ont
Re:Dont download it, dont go and see it (Score:1)
Its an adaptation. Its in a different medium. You change things. I've seen as many films suck by trying to stick to the book and do things that make no sense on screen (Dreamcatcher being the latest example to hit screens here) as ones that would have been better if they hadn't changed things.
Do you try to get people to boycott Bladerunner because its nothing like Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep too? Was Orson Welles' War Of The Worlds weaker because he ditched the
Re:Dont download it, dont go and see it (Score:5, Interesting)
I've read the novel and watched both movies, and while I agree with you that the novel offers more than the movies from a general perspective, both offer great entertainment. Your attitude towards the movies seems unneccessarily hostile.
Not neccessarily. If you recall the original story, the closer to Mordor the ring got, the more its power increased. Surely from that point of view, taking it to Mordor, which is basically what they did, would be worse? (And as we all know, that is the basis of the quest - they are going to take the ring to Mordor). My point is, just because the movie had a detour to Osgiliath, I fail to see what you're getting your knickers in a knot about. Yes, it does change the original story's details, but it isn't as terrible as you're making it out to be.
You walked out? Because a detail of the story was changed in leui of the movie adaptation? Ok, I'm not going to comment on that. Let's examine the rest of what you said, anyway.
If you read the original story closely, Faramir was NOT entirely pleasant while holding the Hobbits hostage. He was thinking about taking the ring to Gondor and interrogated the Hobbits pretty efficiently. Now, I agree that he was less hot-headed and far wiser than his brother, and during the section of the story where he and his men hold the hobbits hostage, he did have a change of heart and allow them to proceed with their quest unhindered. However, to say that they "weren't molested" is cutting it thin. They were blindfolded, tied up, and held against their will for a long time, interrogated, and not all that Faramir had to say to them was pleasant (in the beginning, it's hard to miss the threatening undertones of what he was saying, unless you are very unperceptive). Yes - the movie changed the details of this part of the story. Did it remain true to the spirit of the story, though? I believe so. Re-read this part of the story if you don't believe me. Crucially important departure from the story? Not really. The outcome is going to be exactly the same. I didn't like some parts of this departure either, but you're really making a mountain out of a molehill.
Sorry to tell you this, but Elves are "magical" in nature, and therefore can cast spells, and create magical items, to greater or lesser degree depending on the individuals themselves. Arwen is the daughter of Elrond, who has not only great Elf, but also Ainur heritage. To believe that she would be an Elf with little power is, well, shockingly ignorant on your part, to be brutally honest. If you don't understand this, read the Silmarillion, which deals with the nature of
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Thankfully hardly anyone over a certain age pays much attention to the D&D crowd. Been there, done that, still enjoy it but also have a life now, thanks.
I agree with you that Faramir was done a large disservice in the movie. The detour to Gondor and encounter with the Ringwraith was pointless and it compromised Tolkien's original idea that Sauron had no idea where the Ring was located.
But to let those few mistakes ruin your enjoy
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On the other hand, I don't think that the encounter with the Nazgul spoiled the idea that Sauron had no idea where the Ring was. Now, Sauron knows
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This should be a fun winter. The final Lord of the Rings, Matrix and Star Wars prequel films may be the best ones.
Comments on your comments :) (Score:1)
The Elrond-Ainur connection. (Score:1)
Elrond is descended from an Ainur - Melian. Melian was indeed an Ainur, a Maia. Elrond and Elros' mother, Elwing, is a descendent of Melian and Thingol (through their daughter Luthien, Luthien's son Dior, and finally Dior's daughter Elwing), therefore, Elrond does have Ainur ancestry. I don't remember saying that Elrond was himself an Ainur, but that he has Ainur ancestry, and therefore so does his daughter, Arwen, is tr
Re:The Elrond-Ainur connection. (Score:2)
Which also is why Arwen can decide to be mortal, as her father decided to be an Elf, because she is descended from Beren and Luthien ... who between them broke so many rules. Other elves do not have this choice.
Re: Dude..Repeat after me.. Its a movieeeeee (Score:3, Funny)
Also while you are at it, tell him that Saddam is not tying up with Sauron to kill the infidels and anyone who plagiarize the book including Peter Jackson
Re: Dude..Repeat after me.. Its a movieeeeee (Score:5, Funny)
Hm. Saddam. Sauron. Saddam. Sauron.
"The Evil One's power is again rising", Secretary of State Colin Powell told a stunned press conference Monday. "Saddam was defeated, but he is not dead." As the Secretary mentioned the name "Saddam", an ice cold wind seemed to enter the room, and an unexpected, brief solar eclipse occurred.
"Could someone close the windows please? Anyway, to finally defeat him, the Fellowship must go to Mount Doom just outside of Tikrit and throw the One Ring into the hellish fire that burns eternal there, vanquishing Saddam forever."
"The Fellowship being the Ringbearer-President George Bush, his trusty aide Dick Cheney, the mighty warrior Donald Rumsfeld who will give his life to defend the Ringbearer, and myself, who shall never be King. Probably never."
"And, oh, Paul Wolfowitz listened in at our briefing so he gets to tag along to."
"It will be a long, hard, perillous journey, on foot, but it is the only way."
A strange, crouching shadow bearing an uncanny resemblance to Attorney General John Ashcroft was seen crawling in the shadows behind the Secretary, muttering "My Precious"...
Re:Dont download it, dont go and see it (Score:5, Insightful)
As LotR has quite a fair bit of characters sitting around telling each other things, this is a bit of a problem.
So, lets examine possible reasons for having the ring be taken part way to Gondor in the film, shall we?
One of the most important plot points in RotK, if not the most important, is Aragorn's leading what remains of the hosts of Gondor against the black gate, in an attempt to fool Sauron into thinking he is in possession of the ring, thus taking his attention away from the ring's real possition. There is all sorts of supporting evidence for Sauron to leap to this conclusion, but its a pretty complex and subtle point to get across. In a movie even more so.
By having the ring seen by an agent of Sauron, escorted by the troops of Gondor, selling to the audience that Sauron is convinced beyond all doubt that Aragorn has the ring is going to be far easier - One shortish speach from Gandalf about how He could never concieve of anyone willingly giving up the power of the ring, and Bam. Instant set up.
Compared to the (admitably more subtle and interesting) evidence presented in the book - Pippin and Aragorn's palantir experience, the film's evidence is far more easily grasped.
The films aren't messing with the mythology in any dire mannor - quite the opposite. They have gone to the trouble of setting up major plot elements, in the nature demanded of the different medium, well in advance, when they were needed.
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Yeah...right (Score:1)
In regards to your comment about how the ring could never go to Gondor. As far as I understand, Ithilien is considered a part of northern Gondor (its definatelly not part of Mordor, but if in doubt, check the maps), and the trip through Ithilien in the novel would have lead to GAME OVER if what you said were true.
I am a purist. I've read the lord of the rings as many times as I possibl
Re:Dont download it, dont go and see it (Score:4, Funny)
Dude, you shouldn't have left. That part of the movie was later revealed to be a dream.
Re:Dont download it, dont go and see it (Score:1)
According to the books, Sauron thinks the ring IS in Gondor. For starters, he knows the hobbits have it. He knows that the hobbits have been traveling with Gandalf and Aragorn. And he knows Aragorn is Isildur's heir. Sauron fully expects the ring to go to Gondor, and for Aragorn to claim it.
So, while your correct that the the ring's deture to Gondor was
Re:Dont download it, dont go and see it (Score:2)
TTT sucked. Its as if Jackson and the actors had become bored with the project as a serious subject and decided to put a video game on the screen instead. I'll probably go and see the RoTK, but I'll do so with a sense of dread rather than anticipation.
Re:Dont download it, dont go and see it (Score:2)
I guess you haven't seen "O Brother, Where Art Thou?"
Nothing special the RotK movie seems to be... (Score:2)
Trailer Link (Score:2, Informative)
(Incase site goes down)
Bootleg Trailer (Score:3, Funny)
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So, they should have waited until now before releasing Fellowship, and followed it with Two Towers in a few months? Return of the King won't be ready until the end of the year, because it's taken that long to do post-production on all three movies.
(And MrDog, 6-digit UIDs aren't as cool as you think the
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RoTK Movie BitTorrent Session (Score:3, Informative)
!!!BIG SPOILERS!!! (Score:3)
Wow! I'd better not watch the clip if there are !!!BIG SPOILERS!!! (Where's that tag when you need it?)
Maybe I won't find out about Shelob and the ring getting into the Crack of Doom (heh...I just wrote "crack") as a result of Gollum biting off Frodo's finger and the part about Frodo not willingly throwing the ring into the hot MAG-MA! (Dr. Evil impression there).
OTOH, the spoilers could involve the numerous plots inserted into the movies that did not exist in the book, such as the horse-kissing part, Aragorn going over the cliff, Arwen, the elves at the Hornburg, etc., etc.
The Comic Book Guy needs to have a talk with Peter Jackson.
GF.
Re:!!!BIG SPOILERS!!! (Score:2)
Tom Bombadil who? What?
Re:!!!BIG SPOILERS!!! (Score:2)
While a lot of the embellishments were purely to adapt the book to movie form, a lot more (including a lot of the Arwen storyline, if you grant Jackson a little artistic license) are actually taken from the Appendices.
I was surprised to see how much tied together from those "broken" parts havi
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Any negative post about Lord of the Rings=Troll? (Score:1)
Go back to the SCA you pathetic semi techies.
SCA = an excuse for fat people to get laid.
Re:in soviet russia (Score:2)
Idoits, children, and idiot children will be the death of me yet.....