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Interview with Peter Jackson on LoTR Bloopers 790

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the just-enjoy-it dept.
erth writes "Newsweek has an interview with Peter Jackson asking him what he thinks about some of the most famous and/or obvious bloopers in the LoTR series. Moviemistakes.com has more Fellowhip of the Ring, The Two Towers, and Return of the King bloopers as well for your snickering pleasure." I just wanted to give my props to Jackson and all- we took off early yesterday to see the final film. It was everything I hoped for... except for the bits that I expect I'll have to wait for the extended edition DVD to see. And I was to busy grinning ear to ear to notice any serious bloopers.
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Interview with Peter Jackson on LoTR Bloopers

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  • by Talrias (705583) <chris@nOSpaM.starglade.org> on Thursday December 18, 2003 @12:52PM (#7755646) Homepage
    Moviemistakes.com has more Fellowhip of the Ring That's gotta be a deliberate mistake.
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      • Re:Joke in Topic! (Score:5, Informative)

        by Gulik (179693) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @02:27PM (#7756578)
        MySQL Mistake #8: Failure to close connections properly will bite you in the ass during a Slashdotting.

        Actually, the likely problem here is that the site is making use of PHP's ability to hold the connection to the database open, rather than doing an open/close on every query. This saves the overhead of establishing the connection on each page view, and is often a good thing.

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  • Blooper? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MadFarmAnimalz (460972) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @12:53PM (#7755660) Homepage
    No blooper is as big as PJ being denied an Oscar these last 2 years.

    If he doesn't get it this year the Oscars will become irrelevant. It's just that obvious.
    • Re:Blooper? (Score:3, Interesting)

      by div_2n (525075)
      I remember reading here and there sometime back about a year ago that no one "in the business" expected the first two to get any since the trilogy is usually considered one work even though the three "books" (each one is actually two books) were written and released at different times.

      Most accepted that PJ would get one for the last one after all were released.

      Also, the movies were all filmed at once so you could consider the performance to be one big production simply because during production, it was on
    • Re:Blooper? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by TopShelf (92521) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:06PM (#7755815) Homepage Journal
      The Oscars have been irrelevant for years, much like the Grammy's, the Heisman Trophy, etc., and any other award granted by a cadre of geezers too out of touch to bother with actually perusing the candidates. Personally, I thought Fellowship was very deserving, but A Beautiful Mind pushed all the right Academy buttons (Oscar winning actor portraying a mentally ill genius, cha-ching!).

      Probably the worst part for Jackson's chances is that most of the Academy members likely haven't read the books, and there is a popular perception that the movies are more geared to appeasing Tolkein fans instead of a broader audience. All the same, I'll be watching in March, hoping against hope that he wins. Why? Because it will give him that much more clout with the studios on future projects...
      • Re:Blooper? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Feral Bueller (615138) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:37PM (#7756117) Homepage
        Most of the academy members are 900 years old and read these books when they were kids, read them to their kids, and gave them as presents to their grandchildren.

        I live in L.A. and one of the more noxious Oscar-season practices is for publicists to actually visit the nursing homes where academy members are clustered for special "viewings" -- I have three academy members who live in my apartment building: all of them are over 60.

        Conventional wisdom at this point is that "RoTK" is this year's 300 lb. gorilla at the Oscars. Where New Line is going to end up screwing themselves is that they are submitting for four potential nominees in Best Supporting Actor and two in Best Supporting Actress. Acadmey voters will tend to go elsewhere if split. See New Line Cinema's awards-shill for RoTK [newlineawards.com] for more information (Flash Required).

        Maybe the Oscars are irrelevant to you but they are a cottage industry here in L.A., not to mention one of the top rated shows in the world every year. Finally, a lot of non-blockbuster movies and smaller studios depend on a nomination if not an award for their marketing: The Pianist did most of their box office and almost all of their DVD sales as a result of their Oscars.

        Los Angeles (and Hollywood) is a factory town, like any other factory town anywhere in the world -- our products just tend to get noticed more. Don't kid yourself: a lot of people's year-round financial well-being depends on the Oscars, both in Los Angeles and around the world.

    • Re:Blooper? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Elwood P Dowd (16933) <judgmentalist@gmail.com> on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:36PM (#7756103) Journal
      This is what will make the Oscars irrelevant? Titanic winning sweeps didn't do it for you? That's just the first thing that leaps to mind. Jesus, best actress for Julia Roberts over Ellen Burstyn didn't set off any alarms?

      C'mon, man, you've got to watch better movies, whether or not LoTR is worthy.
  • by Megor1 (621918) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @12:53PM (#7755661) Homepage
    Is this not a dupe!
  • by tmhsiao (47750) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @12:53PM (#7755663) Homepage Journal
    Pretty much all of the children of Rohan and Gondor and the Shire look like the offspring Peter Jackson.

    Coincidence, OR FATE!???
  • SD'd (Score:3, Informative)

    by Broodje (646341) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @12:53PM (#7755664)
    My server is getting quite overloaded at the moment due to lots of publicity (more than quadruple my usual traffic), resulting in access problems and errors for a lot of people. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience, and I'm working on improvements - if you're having trouble checking out the site, please visit again soon when everything should be back to full working order. Thanks...


    Damn dude, what can I say.
  • by imac.usr (58845) * on Thursday December 18, 2003 @12:55PM (#7755683) Homepage
    One of the comments for "The Two Towers" complains about Eomer somehow having escaped his "...under pain of death" sentence by Grima. I always interpreted this as Eomer merely being banished, and threatened with death should he return. Big difference there.

  • The Book (Score:5, Funny)

    by Sir Pallas (696783) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @12:55PM (#7755685) Homepage
    I'm pretty sure that the book has far fewer mistakes, as far as Tolkien could be concerned, so just go read that. I'm doing just fine with paper and ink.
  • by usurper_ii (306966) <eyes0nly@NoSpam.quest4.org> on Thursday December 18, 2003 @12:55PM (#7755687) Homepage
    The Hobbit was the first book I read and still my favorite. They say that he wants to use some of the same actors, too. All in all, it gives us something to look forward to.

    Here is more info:

    http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/3977.html

    Usurper_ii
    • by GQuon (643387) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:53PM (#7756269) Journal
      All the movie titles from one of the spoof trailers:

      2001-The Fellowship of the Ring
      2002-The Two Towers
      2003-The Third One
      2004-Episode I - The Hobbit
      2005-FotR Special Edition
      2006-Book of Lost Tales
      2007-Scribbles in Tolkien's Math Book
      2008-Dude, Where's my Ring?
      2009-What Hobbits Want
      2010-Bilbo Brockovich
      2011-All the Pretty Hobbits
      2012-O, Bilbo, Where art Thou?
      2013-Crouching Gollum, Hidden Balrog
      2014-Orc by Orcwest

      (Lost by my brain, but found again here. [quazack.com])
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18, 2003 @12:57PM (#7755713)
    unless i'm mistaken, the picture accompanying the article is of a regular orc, not an uruk-hai. (the caption reads 'Why are tough Uruk-hai KO'd by mere rocks?')

    wow, i'm a nerd.
  • Bloopers or not... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Godeke (32895) * on Thursday December 18, 2003 @12:58PM (#7755723)
    This has been one of the best book to movie conversions I have seen. Especially considering that this is an incredibly difficult work to start with. The things that were removed wihtout shame (poetry), combined (multitudes of side characters) and left out intentionally, but with a sidelong glance (Tom Bombadill alone causes endless arguments because not enough detail is in the *books* to make a case for what he is supposed to represent. However, one of his poems does sneak into the second movie, although recited by Treebeard) show the dedication put into this movie. It would have been so easy to coast on the later movies (production costs were recovered from the first movie alone), but these are not the products of coasting, but of true affection for the grand story - the story that launched a thousand imitating "great arc fantasy" novels.
    • by GoofyBoy (44399) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:12PM (#7755867) Journal
      >This has been one of the best book to movie conversions I have seen.

      "To Kill a Mockingbird" is the best conversion IMO.
  • by Frac (27516) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:00PM (#7755745)
    Can we have an interview with CmdrTaco on Slashdot Bloopers? Same format - list out all the dupes on slashdot in the past 5-6 years, and give Rob a good way to tell us why he doesn't read his own website. ;-)
  • silly taco (Score:5, Funny)

    by cloudship_tacitus (709780) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:05PM (#7755799)
    And I was to busy grinning ear to ear to notice any serious bloopers.

    and apparently too busy to edit your comment.

    :) i kid because i love.
  • by Lord Satri (609291) <alexandreleroux@ ... inus threevowels> on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:08PM (#7755830) Homepage Journal
    A little off-topic... but worthed to /. readers, a mature Open Source game based on Tolkien's world: Troubles of Middle-Eearth [t-o-m-e.net]. ToME has been improved over several years. It is based on the venerable Angband [wikipedia.org] rogue-like game. There's a lot of Angband variants [thangorodrim.net]. There's even a Multiplayer ToME [t-o-m-e.net] in development.

    ToME is great for being very faithful and compliant to Tolkien's world. Ok, maybe it's not Middle-Earth Online [lordoftherings.com], but it's free and honestly, this game is freaking addictive ! :-) Do not forget to set graphics "on"... even if they're not that good.
  • Jackson the liar? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Snaller (147050) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:17PM (#7755924) Journal
    From the msnbc website:


    Blunder No. 1: "During the scene with Sam and Frodo in the field with a scarecrow, you can plainly see a car cruising past in the distance, from left to right."

    Jackson: We actually didn't know about the car until we were cutting the movie. The smoke [from the exhaust] and dust wasn't so bad because there was already lots of it around, but the bloody windshield was reflecting the sun back into the camera lens. So we erased it for the DVD. I think some people were upset because they tried to show it to their friends and it was gone.

    Yet on the DVD he says "I don't know what people are talking about" - and it doesn't sound like he is kidding, simply being serious??
  • by gumbright (574609) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:18PM (#7755928)
    "And I was to busy grinning ear to ear to notice any serious bloopers." Anyone else out there catch themselves grinning like an idiot in the dark during these movies? I know I did. I was worried when I heard they were being made that they couldn't live up to the material, but Mr. Jackson did himself proud.
  • by Angry_Admin (685125) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:24PM (#7755997)
    The pages states the following;

    The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - 29 mistakes

    Revealing: In the first scene in Edoras (the capital city of Rohan). The first pan over Edoras: You can see the pan is shown in reverse, with the smoke going into the chimney and the fire at the end is burning backwards. The flags are fluttering oddly as well.

    Revealing: When Theoden is talking to Eowyn before he dies one can see that he is wearing contact lenses.

    Factual error: Hobbits can't grow beards, yet Samwise Gamgee has stubble in most of his close-ups in Return Of The King. Even if they could grow beards, it seems unlikely they would be in a position to be shaving on that journey.

    Continuity: In one of the final scenes of the movie, Frodo is writing in the book "There and Back Again," adding his own story. As he is finishing, he clutches the wound he received from one of the Nazgul in "The Fellowship of the Ring." In the hand that he uses clutch the wound, he still holds the quill pen. At the same time, Sam is entering Bag-End. When the camera angle changes, Frodo is still clutching the wound, but the pen has found its way into the ink jar.

    Audio problem: In the scene where Gandalf enters the chambers of Gondor to speak with the Steward of the throne, the sound of his staff striking the floor matches the action in sporadic patches only. In the shot where he departs, that specific sound is consistent.

    Continuity: When Gollum drops the lembas from the ridge, you see the leaves it was wrapped in fluttering away, and the wafers fall roughly straight down. However, when Sam finds it later, the lembas is still mostly wrapped in the leaves, with only a few morsels broken off and laying around unwrapped.

    Revealing: In the scene where the paciderm animals of Mordor are introduced in the battle, there's a shot that pans the front of the line of them. One animal has wood connecting its larger tusks, complete with barbs jutting out from the wood. As the orcs flee to regroup behind the animals, several run through the contraption unharmed.

    Continuity: In the scene where Frodo is helped by Galadriel in Shelob's lair (in the "dream sequence") he lays on the ground. In his hair on HIS right side (viewers' left) is what appears to be some clovers or leaves or grass. The camera cuts to Galadriel then back to Frodo, the thing in his hair is gone. The camera cuts to her again and back to Frodo, the thing is back in his hair.

    Continuity: In the scene where Frodo is tied up in the Tower, part of his face and hair is partly covered in spider webbing - the only opening is his face where Sam parted it to see that he had "died". After a few scenes of orcs, the next shot shows that Frodo has clean hair/face and his hands are still tied up.

    Continuity: When Gandalf enters the castle of Rohan, the shot of his back shows him holding his staff in a vertical position. When the shot turns to his front, he is holding his staff in an horizontal position. The shot turns to his back, and the staff is again in the vertical position. Then the shot turns again to his front, showing his staff in a horizontal position.

    Continuity: The scene where Pippin and Gandalf are talking about "the end" in Minas Tirith, during the battle of Pelenor fields. In one close-up shot, Gandalf's sword blade is shiny and silver. In the next shot, it's coated in black orc blood, then in the next shot, it's silver again.

    Continuity: In the scene where Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli enter the cave where the dead army resides, Aragorn pulls a torch seemingly from nowhere (especially interesting considering that his horse, and consequently all supplies, have run off in the scene before).

    Continuity: When Aragorn, Legolas, Gandalf, Gimli etc, ride up to the gates of Mordor, the main characters go up to the gate on their own to demand it opens. The trails the horses leave on the way towards the gate are different to those that you see in the shot when they retreat after the gate ha
    • Continuity: Merry and Pippin drank Entish water (Two Towers Extended Edition) so they should be taller than Frodo and Sam, but when the 4 of them stand side by side in Minas Tirith they are the same height.

      Right, and I imagine that this will be addressed in the Extended Version of Return of the King. As they weren't shown drinking the Entish water in the theatrical release of TTT, there shouldn't be a reference to it in the theatrical release of RotK. This isn't a blooper at all.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:26PM (#7756004)
    When Aragorn finds the army of the dead, they look like the ghosts of soldiers. But when they attack Sauron's army at Pellenor Fields/Minas Tirith, they look like radioactive scrubbing bubbles.
  • The Finger (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Skyshadow (508) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:29PM (#7756040) Homepage
    I noticed last night that Frodo seemed to have all of his fingers when he was hugging everyone goodbye at the harbor...
  • by ooby (729259) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:32PM (#7756063)
    Anyone else notice when Sam and Froto are running out of the cave being chased by a river of lava was a very cliche shot?

    It's almost like PJ took stock footage of people running out of a cave, added some lava, and threw Rudy and Elijah in front of a blue screen.

    I thought i was watching a classic giant bug movie.
  • by Leffe (686621) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:38PM (#7756125)
    The Fellowship of the Ring [google.com]
    The Two Towers [google.com]

    Unfortunately there is no cache of the Return of the King.
  • by BathTub (75720) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @01:50PM (#7756217)
    ..a few years ago, I got too annoyed at seeing stupid things posted that half the time weren't even mistakes in the movie, just things that the submitter thought was a mistake.

    Plus in some instances it reduced my enjoyment of the film to have the stuff pointed out, where I might not have noticed it otherwise.

    So just a small warning.
  • by Draxinusom (82930) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @02:07PM (#7756385)
    When Gollum falls into the Cracks of Doom, he actually appears to still be alive even as he sinks below the surface. If he had actually fallen into liquid hot mag-ma he would have burst into flame long before hitting the surface. I found that very distracting.
  • by JoeShmoe (90109) <askjoeshmoe@hotmail.com> on Thursday December 18, 2003 @03:13PM (#7757040)
    ** SPOILERS ** obviously

    Since it's reasonable on topic, I'd like to voice my thoughts on the Return of the King.

    I walked in with advance warning that right about the point where you think the movie is finished, be prepared for another 20 minutes of wrap-up. Even knowing this, I was totally unprepared for the lame and completely unncessary scenes at the end and honestly it ruined the experience for me.

    First of all...okay, Frodo and Sam are good friends, but could Peter Jackson have made it any more homosexual? The audience where I watched kept laughing every time there was a scene with Frodo and Sam all dewy-eyed staring at each other with sappy music. I swear for a split second everyone thought Frodo was going to kiss Sam on the lips as they said goodbye at the boat.

    Second, after blowing our load at the battle of the black gate, all everyone wants to do is roll over and go to sleep. I don't know if my experience was the same as everyone else's but for the next twenty minutes I witnessed the combined figiting of 300+ people, standing up, then sitting back down, murmuring, sighing loudly, leaving, groaning...it was pretty damn distracting and unpleasant.

    Now, giving that this movie is aimed at the masses and not particularly at die-hard LOTR fans (given that the plot was changes to give it more mainstream appeal), why in God's name would Peter Jackson decide to throw in all this extra crap at the end which a) pissed off real fans because it wasn't the Scourging b) pissed off mainstream fans because it was irrelavant crap.

    Everyone I talked to was in agreement that the movie should have ended with (ugh) Gandalf on the eagles rescuing the hobbits. Particularly the view from on high with Frodo flying over the mountain. Everyone at that point knows they are safe, that the bad guys are gone, good guys win, fade to "The End" and stick the rest of the movie on DVD.

    But no...cut to the coronation scene. Okay, we'll indulge Jackson and sit through a completely predictable closing scene. Oh he gets the girl, yay. Oh, the hobbits are honored okay...allright, perfect ending now, right?

    Nope...okay, back to the shire, back to the pub, having a nice homey scene. Clink the glasses, hey that's a perfect place to end it, we've come full circle from Shire to Shire. End, right?

    NO...now we drag Bilbo's withered carcass around to take him to the Elf ship. Why? What mainstream fan even remembers this all started three years ago with Bilbo? As far as anyone knows, he died of old age from not having the ring. You leave Sauruman's ending out of the movie, a character that played a much more pivotal role, but instead show what happens to basically a bit character? Why not tell me the life story of the doorkeeper at the bar too? I really want to know if he was able to pursue his dream of becoming a lute player. Okay, so Bilbo asks about the ring, Frodo lost it, cute scene. Cut, it's a wrap.

    AAAAAAAAH NO. Now we have an interminally long and weepy scene at the boat. Oh, Frodo's going too? Boo hoo, boo hoo, boo hoo. Okay, he's going on board with Bilbo and Gandalf, the book has been turned over to Sam, and now the ship sails into the sunset in terrible movie cliche number #412. Fade out...perfect time for "The End"

    MOTHER#@#@!%!% JACKSON NO DAMMIT...(sound of entire audience groaning at once) we are back at the shire to show Sam coming home? WTF? Did anyone think he was going to run away and go whoring? We knew he was married and had kids. Why do we need to see it? Who cares? And so we end staring at the round hobbit door...did the movie even begin with a round hobbit door...ah forget it, is this the end?

    Okay...The End. Now I can go take that leak I've been holding in for a kidney-busting three and a half hours.

    WTF? My four hour validation doesn't cover Return of the King? I have to pay an extra $4 because no one from the theater bothered to memo the parking staff about the insane length of the number one box office draw?

    And maybe now you can see why I didn't particularly enjoy the movie as much as I had hoped.

    -JoeShmoe
    .
  • Not a blopper. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by SharpFang (651121) on Thursday December 18, 2003 @08:27PM (#7759577) Homepage Journal
    They complain on the site that after Shelob stabbed Frodo, we didn't see a big wound in his chest. Well, if we did, he would be very dead (shelob sting IS poisonous) but I don't remember him taking his mithril chainmail off, so it was just the same as with the troll in Moria...

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