Message in a Battle 460
The WP has a tale titled The Messages in a Battle about the recent growth of computer-generated battle scenes in movies, now that you don't have to pay all those extras. RotK clearly wouldn't have been much of a movie if the battle scenes hadn't been so good.
Re:Quality of RotK (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, the orc 300th in from the left of the screen did an awesome job - definitely a star of the future.
Re:Obligatory Simpsons (Score:5, Funny)
Make love, not war! (Score:5, Funny)
I was quite disappointed when that scene in the Matrix 2 turned out to be a mere scantily clad rave in a cave, all done with paid actors.
Is Michael allowed to smoke pot on the job? (Score:5, Funny)
Duh. And in other news, Titanic wouldn't have been much of a movie if the ship hadn't sunk, Pearl Harbor wouldn't have been much of a movie if the Japanese hadn't attacked and X-Men would have been pretty bad if none of the characters had special powers.
Sure, there are a couple of hobbits winding their way to Mount Doom but Lord Of The Rings was always about epic battles - it's a bit hard to have an ultimate "good vs evil" struggle without a major conflict or two.
When people talk about these movies, they they talk about the battles within the mines of Moria, at Helm's Deep, at Isengard, and at Minas Tirith. They don't talk about Gandalf's fireworks at the Shire, or Frodo vs Gollum at the volcano's mouth. It's the major fight scenes that get us talking and it's those fight scenes where the real money is spent.
Of course Return Of The King wouldn't have been much of a movie if the battle scenes hadn't been so good. Neither would any major sci-fi or fantasy film you care to mention if equally bereft of seriously meaty action. Duh.
Re:irony & ignorance (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Make love, not war! (Score:2, Funny)
A!
Re:what's the difference.... (Score:1, Funny)
CGI... (Score:0, Funny)
Hmmm, what does the I stand for?... Idiot.
Anyone read McSweeney's? (Score:3, Funny)
UNUSED AUDIO COMMENTARY BY HOWARD ZINN AND NOAM CHOMSKY, RECORDED SUMMER 2002, FOR THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING (Platinum Series Extended Edition)DVD, Part One [mcsweeneys.net]
Part Two [mcsweeneys.net]
A sample:
A bit more:
Two Towers: The Low Budget Cut (Score:5, Funny)
Camera zooms in on and swoops past the walls of Helms Deep, which is full of 'orcs' that look suspicious like cardboard standees. The orcs stand side by side, leaving an empty space in the middle of the crowd. At one end stands Aragorn, sword in hand, wearing a long black tunic. At the other end, stands the King Orc, clearly identifiable by the saucy party hat he wears.
Aragorn: It ends tonight.
King Orc:I know it does. We already know I'm the one who beats you. That's why the rest of us are just going to enjoy the show. Grrgh.
They they fight, in a big battle scene would be ludicrously expensive if not for the fact Sam's head is in the way of the camera so only the occasional 'You swine!' is heard. A few moments later, Aragorneo's victory cry is heard. Close up on a shot of the Orc's party hat drifting poignantly to the ground. End scene.
Re:I can't watch them! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Be entertained you whiney twits (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Quality of RotK (Score:5, Funny)
Star? Cobblers. He left his wristwatch on, which is clearly visible for 0.5 of a second using the zoom feature of my Supa DVD player. And he doesn't even exist!
Re:what's the difference.... (Score:1, Funny)
You [reference.com] are [reference.com] an [reference.com] asshole [goatse.cx]
Re:My personal complaint (Score:2, Funny)
"Oh shit!"
or
"Charge!"
Re:Quality of RotK (Score:2, Funny)
but that's what i call realism... they even rendered wristwatches for the computer generated orcs. artificial bloopers, a concept of the future indeed!
that's worth a patent
Grumpy old guy says... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:You know... things just don't amaze me. (Score:2, Funny)
Who is this gollum you speak of?
(hah if you say that at the theatres these days you will get attacked by a swarm of 12 year olds dresssed as orcs)
CGI is Theft (Score:5, Funny)
At the tail end of these commercials was a heartening look at an industry stuntman. He talked about movies. He talked about his work. He talked about the risks he and his fellow stuntmen take to bring us exciting action in the movies. And he warned us that when we download a movie, we're stealing from him. Yep. Download a movie and you've all but made his work... his risks... his sacrifice worthless.
The message is clear. The MPAA wants us to know that downloading movies eliminates jobs. It hurts people like this particular stuntman. It takes away his job. Downloading is theft.
Of course, we have to wonder what this stuntman thinks about the massive battle scenes in the Lord of the Rings series. Sure. Motion capture plays a heavy part in the current technology. But you only need so many stuntment in a digital studio to generate the data needed for that. And what about the day when motion capture is no longer needed - when the actions of generic stunts have been long since captured, added to a database, and available on CDROM/DVD for a few hundred dollars? What happens to the job of the noble stuntman?
It seems that CGI too, is theft.
Or not.
Re:Quality of RotK (Score:1, Funny)
Though I think I'm the only one who got it.
Re:The battles would have been a lot better (Score:3, Funny)
Nah, half the
Re:The battles would have been a lot better (Score:2, Funny)
Re:You know... things just don't amaze me. (Score:1, Funny)
Little known fact: In "Citizen Kane," the sled was entirely computer-generated.
(Virtually all movies pre-date computer special effects technology, you moron.)
Re:Your loss (Score:3, Funny)
So brave you forgot to log in?