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Singularity Sky 416

Indomitus writes "I used to read tons of science fiction, nothing but for long stretches. Then I grew up and realized that most science fiction sucked. I look back on the time spent reading anything by Piers Anthony and know I'm going to be wishing I had those hours back when I'm older. Writers like Charlie Stross are the reason I know most SF sucks, because he does it so well. He fills this somewhat slim book with more ideas than any 10 other books from the section his work inhabits at the bookstore." Read on for the rest.
Singularity Sky
author Charles Stross
pages 313
publisher Berkley Pub Group
rating 9.9
reviewer Matt Grommes
ISBN 0441010725
summary A semi-sentient space travelling information gatherer called The Festival comes to a backward planet and instigates 1000 years of technological change in a month. The rulers of the world are not too happy and will use any means they have to stop the Festival, even if it means incurring the wrath of the super-AI that watches over the universe.

The main idea of the story, that a semi-sentient information-gathering alien system called the Festival comes to a backward farming planet and begins granting wishes -- in the form of advanced technology -- in exchange for stories and information, is only the seedbed for the larger exploration of the societally backward planetary system and what happens when the revolution you hoped to lead finally comes and it doesn't need you.

As a lifelong reader of science fiction, I hate that most SF is just as backward-looking as most Fantasy. Part of the problem with recent SF work is that we've come to a point in science where a lot of what made science fiction new has been done and what's coming is almost impossible to imagine, which I'll get to in a second. Space exploration can still be exciting but most new space stuff has been infected with the Star Trek Syndrome, as I call it, where everyone is boring and has no flaws, and the status quo rules. People just don't look to space exploration as exciting in real life so that translates to the SF work that people do. Real life science is changing so fast that it leaves even science fiction people in the dust. The result is the rise of 'Fantasy with robots and aliens' and 'Space Opera,' two facets of SF that seem to be dominating the landscape. Even Neal Stephenson, who was at the forefront of real technological future SF with The Diamond Age and Snow Crash has gone backward with Quicksilver and to a lesser extent Cryptonomicon.

The issue is The Singularity. This is Vernor Vinge's idea that technological progress proceeds at an exponential rate until there is a complete break with what came before. The End Of History, as people call it. This comes with the creation of a human-level AI that quickly proceeds past human-level, the invention of Upload technology that will allow us to live in computer systems and artificial bodies, something of that nature that we can't imagine. The problem with writing futuristic work in the time before a Singularity is that you can't see beyond it. Everything is different, so much so that all we can hope for is the fire up our imaginations to the point where we can begin to think in new ways.

One of the main goals of science fiction as I see it is to prepare us for the future. You can't hope to cope with the future if you've never been innoculated with new ideas. Singularity Sky is one of the first post-Singularity novels I've read that takes the idea seriously and examines it, allowing us to open our minds to the vast possibilities. Stross doesn't shy away from it like so many others. He uses the Festival's coming to show the speed of the change that comes with a technological Singularity and what happens to people in the aftermath. He also shows a culture trying desperately to hang on to old ways and the futility of doing that in the face of such rapid change.

There are problems with the book, mostly in the perennial bugbear of science-fiction, character development, but the rush of ideas glossed over that for me. This is only Mr. Stross's second book, I believe, the first being a collection of short stories called Toast: And Other Rusted Futures, that is high on my Must Read list. Charles Stross is a name that you will hopefully hear a lot more from in the coming years. His imagination is up there with the best and brightest and with his work as an accelerant my mind can't help but burn with new ideas. I hope more science fiction writers see this book and decide to move forward to meet him.


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  • by YukioMishima ( 205721 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:05PM (#8342632)
    Play nice with Piers Anthony. While Anthony's sci-fi books are definitely space opera, without his work, I would never have become the sci-fi reader I am today. His "Bio of a Space Tyrant" series was my first glimpse into some of the ideas that would germinate into a lifelong love of science fiction. He's an enthusiastic writer, and really does interact well with his fans, as evidenced by the fan correspondence he includes at the end of his books. Finally, at least it's reading and it's fun - I think the tradeoff for my hours is well worth it.
  • by Mukaikubo ( 724906 ) <gtg430b@NosPaM.prism.gatech.edu> on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:06PM (#8342650) Journal
    Reviewer needs to get off his high horse. It's fine that you experienced a loss of faith or whatever the smeg changed for you, but don't insult the rest of us who still like the sci-fi you sneer at (ooohhh, space operas, how amusingly plebeian- give me a break).
  • Cool! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Gr8Apes ( 679165 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:07PM (#8342676)
    I'm always on the lookout for something different in the SF world. This review appears well done enough by not being all rosy, and instead focuses both on the pluses and minuses of the work. It has convinced me to at least look at the work for myself.
    Thanks!
  • by waif69 ( 322360 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:08PM (#8342690) Journal
    I know that you were writing a review of a book, not written by Heinlein, but the comment that most SciFi sucks, IMHO is going overboard. OK, perhaps 30% is lousy, and that might go even higher if you compare everyone to the standards that Heinlein and Clark and Asimov had set.

    Obviously I have a lot of respect for the authors stated above, since they all have stong scientific backgrounds and truly understand the human condition. I just had to respond, don't hate me for message.
  • try again (Score:4, Insightful)

    by lambent ( 234167 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:10PM (#8342727)
    The whole "magic is indistinguishable ..." bit, as well as 'uploading' yourself into a computer, as well as 'let's see what happens when old fashioned cultures collide with new cultures' is all old hat. Already been done many times before.

    This is nothing new. The man you extol as being a fresh creative force for the beleagured sci-fi genre is doing the same thing every author has done for the bast 80 years.
  • by Mr2cents ( 323101 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:11PM (#8342747)
    Or is it general SF bashing? Most SF sucks, I hate this, I hate that, that is boring, ...
    The fact is: most x suck, where x can be anything you like (TV programs, /. stories, people, hookers, ...). Get over it and stay on topic next time.
  • by Mukaikubo ( 724906 ) <gtg430b@NosPaM.prism.gatech.edu> on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:14PM (#8342792) Journal
    The joke in the fandom community is that they're the "Killer Bees".

    Baxter earned my unending adulation for whatever part of "The Light of Other Days" he contributed with Clarke, and "Manifold: Time" sealed the deal. Favorite writer of the 1990s for me.
  • Piers Anthony (Score:4, Insightful)

    by nicophonica ( 660859 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:17PM (#8342839)
    I do have one good thing to say about Pierce Anthony. I was reading him one day and suddenly a little thought balloon formed over my head which read: "This is crap." I threw the book down in disgust and learned a valuable lesson: it's not a moral failing to give up on a bad book. Quite the opposite, it a sin to reward a horrible writer by plowing threw dreck just to finish it.
  • by bbsguru ( 586178 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:20PM (#8342891) Homepage Journal
    Not all SF is classic literature?

    Pshaw! next you'll try to tell us that not all reality television is real, or that pro Wrestling isn't a sport.

    Most of everything is not the Best of anything. Get a clue. It's reading the rest that makes the best such a treasure.

    And lay off Piers Anthony. He ain't Heinlein or Asimov, but neither is William Gibson. Nobody is. That's why Heinlein and Asimov are important.

  • by emptybody ( 12341 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:22PM (#8342913) Homepage Journal
    Sorry sir, you lost me.

    Your introduction slams other authors for no aparent good reason. If you are reviewing a book you can easily say it is better or worse, in your opinion, than some other works.

    It is not necessary to drag in some other persons works and knock them down.
  • by Mukaikubo ( 724906 ) <gtg430b@NosPaM.prism.gatech.edu> on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:26PM (#8342977) Journal
    Help me better myself... where have I heard that before?

    Anyway, if you look at the Ringworld cycle as juvenile, I have nothing but pity for you. If you disdain Manifold: Time and The Light of Other Days, I scorn you. And if you buy into the reviewer's hypothesis that a higher percentage of scifi sucks than ANY OTHER POP CULTURE FORMAT, I laugh at you.
  • by krilli ( 303497 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:26PM (#8342980) Journal
    Come now, there's no need to let your feelings be hurt ... by a book review.

    But still I agree with you, partly: badmouthing is not needed to contrast praise.
  • by blindpoetx ( 308478 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:32PM (#8343055) Homepage
    I just did some moderating and I noticed that most of the posts that caught my attention (aka visible, not collapsed) were already pegged out at 5. Such filtering helps when viewing the site, but it discourages moderators from culling through the dregs to find diamonds.

  • by kfg ( 145172 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:32PM (#8343062)
    On a Pale Horse is a wonder. If this is the sort of thing that Mr. Anthony is capable of I certainly wish he'd produce more of it.

    With each further volume however he "progressed" more and more toward his standard goofey fantasy style, which is fine for a book or two of light reading, but that's about it. It gets old, in a hurry.

    So, while in essence I agree with you, I nonetheless found the series as a whole dissapointing.

    KFG
  • Piers Anthony (Score:4, Insightful)

    by truffle ( 37924 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:33PM (#8343070) Homepage
    While much of what Piers Anthony has written is crap, he has written several books which I would personally consider good science fiction:

    * Macroscope
    * The Apprentice Adept (books 1-3 only)
    * Incarnations of Imortality (books 1-4 only)

    I'm omiting from this list books that were entertaining but not really good, and books that are clearly fantasy and not sci fi. Of this list only Macroscope is what I'd call pure sci fi, containing no fantasy elements, but it was really quite good, one of his first.

    Most of his sci fi is really quite tollerable and an enjoyable read. When in doubt skim the first chapter, and if the word panties is mentioned skip the book.

    I did of course also quite like his lighter fluffier stuff, it was a staple of my reading from ages 12-17 when I bought anything he wrote.
  • by OmniGeek ( 72743 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:36PM (#8343101)
    Yes, much SF is junk (like much of Zelazny and Farmer, and I *thoroughly enjoy* their work); that shouldn't surprise anyone. (Harlequin romances, anyone? Junk is all over literature, and SF is no exception.) Of course, "junk" here has a wildly variable and subjective meaning.

    As far as space opera, I just finished David Weber's "Path of the Fury", and while it doesn't stand up there with Lois McMaster Bujold or C.J. Cherryh, or Weber's other works (comes off somewhat as though put together out of spare parts to turn a buck), it was a great way to spend a 6-hour airplane ride. Best thing I could have done with the time.

    I've spent many an otherwise-wasted hour reading good and bad SF, and I cannot honestly say I regret ANY of it, even *shudder* half of Battlefield Earth (as a research project in "Gods below, surely the book wasn't THAT bad, the filmmaker musta taken liberties... Gaah, he didn't, it was, it was!"). Consider the alternatives, like Harlequin romances, USA Today, and broadcast TV. Even bad written fiction is better than most TV, and it lets us exercise our imaginations instead of rotting our minds.

  • by rumblin'rabbit ( 711865 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:41PM (#8343157) Journal
    Yeah, you're right. Most science fiction sucks. I have about 1000 SF books in my basement from my youth, and I find that few of them are readable now.

    My main problem is not the stories themselves, but the quality of the writing. That many of them are written for 14 year olds doesn't help (although this in itself doesn't make it poor writing).

    We need SF book for adults, for people who have actually become somewhat literate in their dotage. I know they're out there, because I own a few.

  • by Scott Francis[Mecham ( 336 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:42PM (#8343165) Homepage
    You may want to stop reading the Internet, then.
  • What sucks (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:47PM (#8343226)
    I used to read tons of science fiction, nothing but for long stretches. Then I grew up and realized that most science fiction sucked.
    And so does your grammar. I had to read that four times before I translated this sentence to, "I used to read tons of science fiction, and nothing but, for long stretches." You might want to work on that if you intend to write book reviews.
  • by trelanexiph ( 605826 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @04:57PM (#8343340) Homepage
    Telling Science Fiction writers they suck is potentially deeply damaging. Proper Sci Fi comes from deep within the human experience. Capturing it and putting it on paper is difficult and demanding of an author. At times looking into the future and seeing any future for a race which seems at times bent on doing nothing but harm to it's members, and seeing anything but destruction and hatred is a difficult task for all of us.

    You cry about "Space Operas", could we hope for anything less than the "Star Trek World". Perfection is not an un-noble goal. Even with realism and effort the negative sides of the human existance can be overcome.

    Some us have forgotten that that world is not here yet, or believe that good in this world cannot now be done before things get better. The true point of science fiction is to look at what's wrong, and prove that it can get better.

    The social concepts in the original Star Trek seem almost laughable. A race which is black on the left and white on the right, battling to the death with a race which is white on the left and black on the right? And yet we still burn crosses, we still commit hate crimes. And many of those who don't condone them saying "We can't do anything to stop this".

    After the attack on the Two Towers an Indian Sheik was gunned down in the street, solely because "he looked like one of them". Be them "Japs", "Gooks", "Krauts", "Rag Heads", we haven't gotten far. We continually make peace with one race, African Americans, the Japanese, the Germans, only to wage war and destruction on another, Muslims, the Chinese, the Koreans. And let us not forget the continued oppression on the Jewish people, and the Palestinians.

    Perhaps the problem with Science Fiction isn't that things have gotten so much better, but that reading it is a bitter reminder that in fact nothing has changed at all, we've come no closer to the exploration of strange new worlds, the seeking of new life, and forms of civilization, because we haven't gone where no man before has gone before, a unilateral acceptance of ourselves and humanity.
  • by ultramk ( 470198 ) <ultramk@noSPAm.pacbell.net> on Friday February 20, 2004 @05:15PM (#8343610)
    Your introduction slams other authors for no aparent good reason. If you are reviewing a book you can easily say it is better or worse, in your opinion, than some other works.

    I completely disagree. Having a reviewer state up front who they think rocks or sucks, let's you "calibrate" the review to your own tastes.

    I totally agree with the reviewer about Piers Anthony, and so that makes me think that I will probably agree with him about the rest of his review. (of course, there are those who who will consider PA high literature, but as the saying goes, YMMV. Some people watch American Idol, too.) I personally outgrew PA when I was about 12, so I have strong opinions about him.

    Of course, it works conversely: one reviewer called a book "The worst thing since David Weber!". I enjoy DW, so I gave it a shot. (mind you, I don't consider his work mindbending or provocative, just an entertaining read. Like Laurel K. Hamilton, for e.g.)

    Like I said, YMMV. Which is kind of the whole point.

    m-
  • by farrellj ( 563 ) * on Friday February 20, 2004 @05:16PM (#8343630) Homepage Journal
    I agree...but do remember one thing, he can only publish in book form what the publishers want...and all they want these days is Bubblegum Xanth. The last really intersting series he wrote was the Bio of a Space Tyrant...which is *so* applicable to today's circumstances with our "Friend" Bush & co in the White House.

    ttyl
    Farrell
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20, 2004 @05:25PM (#8343756)
    I look back on the time spent reading anything by Piers Anthony and know I'm going to be wishing I had those hours back when I'm older.

    Don't live in the past. If you enjoyed the books at the time you were reading them, they fulfilled their purpose. What else exactly would you have done if someone had convinced you that you'd dislike them later? Probably nothing nearly as much fun as the reading you actually did.

  • by duanedv ( 754953 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @05:26PM (#8343760)
    Speaking as someone who has read SF for more than 50 years, i believe that SF today is vastly improved in quality. Much of what I read today is for pure entertainment. When I want to stretch my mind, I read things by Stephen Hawking and others...that's a real mind blowing experience! As for Piers Anthony, I have read his 'Cluster' series several times. He comes up with some interesting observations from the view point of other life forms. The 'Xanth' series I read for fun.
  • by TopShelf ( 92521 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @05:35PM (#8343871) Homepage Journal
    I think the series could have been summed up as "On a Pale Horse" followed by "Beating a Dead Horse..." Like many authors, Anthony couldn't just let a good book stand on its own, he had to follow up with sequel after sequel after sequel...

    Personally, I liked his Tarot books as well, though.
  • by RickHunter ( 103108 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @05:41PM (#8343963)

    Fine, I'll look you in the eye and tell you that I can't stand reading David Brin. His characters are flat and lifeless, altered however necessary to get across whatever "insightful" political or philosophical point he wants to emphasize this paragraph. Sundiver was okay, but Startide Rising and the Uplift War were absolutely hideously dry. Not only can he not do characters, he can't do plots or interesting situations either. I had to struggle to finish both of the above.

    I'll look you in the eye and tell you that 90% of Greg Bear's stuff is written to capitalize on "market trends". How? You can tell when he's writing something because he WANTS to - then you get masterpieces like "Moving Mars" or "Songs of Earth and Power", and not tripe like Eon, or Anvil of Stars, or Slant.

    I'll look yo in the eye and tell you Gregory Benford is a hack. His Galactic Center series was muddled and poorly-written.

    All of the above are why sci-fi sucks. They're excellent examples of the "Plot? Characterization? Who needs those! We've got SCIENCE!" school of thought. They're so wrapped up in how scientifically accurate they are that they totally forget that scientific accuracy is not and has never been an element of an engaging story. Especially since their "accurate" predictions usually get disproven or debunked by scientists within six months of publication anyway.

    And don't try telling me that they're pondering about the human condition, or how things might turn out, because that's crap. To do that, you need characterization and plot, and they don't give a damn about that. They just want to coerce little geeks like you into thinking you're so smart and so sophisticated, reading a book that's so scientifically accurate and nodding your head and going "yeah, that's so true".

  • by cardshark2001 ( 444650 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @06:08PM (#8344408)
    Piers Anthony will never see another dime from me. He wrote in one his newsletters last year that he can't see "why some people get so outraged about protections on digital works". He often claims to hate tyranny and love personal liberty but is completely unable to see the connection those things have to DRM.

    What's that got to do with whether you enjoy his fiction? It's like the Seinfeld where Elaine refuses to eat at Poppy's pizza place because he's against abortion.

    Hell, I like some of L Ron Hubbard's stuff, and we all know what a psycho he was (he invented scientology, in case you didn't know).

    The fact that he was even willing to discuss stuff with you is pretty impressive, even if you disagree. You may have no idea what other authors feel about your pet political issues, because they never interact with the public. Piers should be punished because he does interact with his fans?

  • by Flamerule ( 467257 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @06:09PM (#8344418)
    Fine, I'll look you in the eye and tell you that I can't stand reading David Brin. His characters are flat and lifeless, altered however necessary to get across whatever "insightful" political or philosophical point he wants to emphasize this paragraph. Sundiver was okay, but Startide Rising and the Uplift War were absolutely hideously dry. Not only can he not do characters, he can't do plots or interesting situations either. I had to struggle to finish both of the above.
    *stares* You think they were dry? Of all words, dry? Startide Rising and The Uplift War were full of... emotion, description, action... they were fucking organic. Sundiver was far plainer and drier than those 2. I thought the characters and plots were thoroughly engrossing.
    All of the above are why sci-fi sucks. They're excellent examples of the "Plot? Characterization? Who needs those! We've got SCIENCE!" school of thought. They're so wrapped up in how scientifically accurate they are that they totally forget that scientific accuracy is not and has never been an element of an engaging story. Especially since their "accurate" predictions usually get disproven or debunked by scientists within six months of publication anyway.
    At this point I have to question whether you actually intended the above to include Brin, since it doesn't describe his novels at all. So you've read Startide Rising and The Uplift War, right? Where were there any scientific predictions of any sort? The novels are far more character- and story-driven. The only thing that's even vaguely scientific is the entire process of uplifting dolphins and chimps; none of the technology used, for example, is gone into at all. It's just there: superluminal drives, probability drives, weapons, etc. All of those are "far-future magic" sort of technologies. Maybe Sundiver has some of what you're describing, but I'm familiar with Bear and Benford, and Brin's Uplift Trilogy, at least, is quite distant from their work.

    And just as an aside, Benford's Timescape was superb.

  • by alexjohns ( 53323 ) <[moc.liamg] [ta] [cirumla]> on Friday February 20, 2004 @06:18PM (#8344539) Journal
    "Then I grew up and realized that most science fiction sucked."
    You've lost contact with your inner child. You need to find it again. I re-read old Heinlein (Citizen of the Galaxy, Tunnel in the Sky, Starman Jones, Farnham's Freehold, etc.) and E.E. Doc Smith (Lensman and Skylark novels) frequently. The science is usually wrong, the characterizations are often shallow, the dialog frequently corny ("You're a blinding flash and a deafening report."), but if you truly don't like that stuff anymore you need to re-connect with a simpler version of yourself.

    It's like if you suddenly stopped liking Legos and Video Games. It's OK to not play with them as much as you used to, but if you truly think of such things as childish and beneath you and uninteresting even for a few fleeting moments you've lost something vital. If you never liked such stuff to begin with, then you're OK. Otherwise, you're repressing something.

    Of course, you could just be someone who's gotten to the point where they don't want to admit they like that stuff any more. That's OK. You'll grow out of that stage, too.

  • by dmaxwell ( 43234 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @06:19PM (#8344547)
    It is because I find his position in context to be utterly offensive. Yes, he answers his own email. Yes he'll even discuss his own views. I'm not "punishing" him because he interacts with his fans. I'm "punishing" him for rank hypocrasy.

    His favoring of DRM is completely counter to everything he claims to stand for. I also try to avoid funding DRM advocates on general principle. I'll grant that is difficult these days but I will boycott the more obvious ways of giving Disney money for instance.

    I'll even still read his stuff but only if I can pick it legitimately without funding him. I'm thinking of things like libraries and used bookshops.
  • by Mistshadow2k4 ( 748958 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @07:10PM (#8345121) Journal

    I actually like fantasy quite a bit myself, but I agree with the rest of your post. Here's my list of the biggest flaws with almost all SF (and especially Star Trek), as I see it:

    1. They seem to think that the point of life developing at all is for a species to develop our kind of intelligence.

    2. They seem to think that the point of intelligent life developing must be to develop technology.

    3. Most SF authors show a terrible ignorance about other cultures and anthropology when they attempt to show how alien some non-terrestial society is, or else adapt human cultures to aliens and then pretend that it' still alien ("today is a good day to die" is a millenium-old cliche).

    4. They also have an unfortunate tendency to simply take our future to extremes; we're all goody two-shoes with an "evolved sensibility", or either the future is really, really bad, man. Yet the people are somehow pretty much the same. What about simple change in beliefs and customs?

    5. Characterization; I'm so tired of cookie-cutter humans who are deliberately bland to make the aliens look more alien. It has the opposite effect - the aliens wind up looking more human, and the humans wind up looking like a species of school pincipals, nannies and lawyers. (The cool thing about some fantasy stories, and some SF too, is when the author shows us what a truly different and new human culture might be like.)

    6. Big animals, whether from a different planet or from our own prehistory, don't exist just to eat us. Predators do not pursue prey contiually for hours or days at a time. That's in the realm of the so-called "intelligent" creatures, such as humans.

    7. Many SF stories revolve around things going very wrong with computers, and thus the author reveals his or her ignorance about the computers we have now. Come on, writers, read a little about Unix and then you'll realize why half of the computer freakout stories should be infeasible if they have a decent OS with any security built-in.

    8. Technobabble. New ideas are great, but it's just nonsense when you use a bunch of tech-sounding doubletalk to solve the big problem.

    9. Technobabble that's utter nonsense. Antimatter radiation; if you're nerdy enough to know which series and episode I mean, then I'm sure you get the point. If you're going to use technobabble at all, don't make up stuff that we know isn't true *now*.

    10. Psionic powers that are like magic. Psionics, yes, but a little research into the subject quickly reveals that no one has ever been known to be so incredibly powerful as in a lot of the SF about it.

    Unfortunately most SF has one or more of the above themes in the story, so there's not that much SF out there I like anymore. The time is long past to break away from these cliched plot conventions and imagine something new. Once upon a time, all the cliches and conventions were new, so it can be done.

  • by cardshark2001 ( 444650 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @07:21PM (#8345222)
    I'm "punishing" him for rank hypocrasy.

    It's your right of course, and I agree with you on Disney, for more than just their DRM stance. The ironic thing with Piers is just that you would never know what his position was unless he had taken the time out of his day to answer your missives. Your sort of attitude is probably one reason many authors don't go to the trouble. They're bound to offend some people with whatever views they hold.

    As far as DRM goes, I think you're putting the cart in front of the horse. It's more important (to me) that the copyright terms be reasonable in the first place than whether they use some silly copy protection scheme or proprietary formatting scheme.

    If there was a reasonable law that said all copyrighted material had to be published into the public domain after a reasonable time, say fifteen years, who cares about DRM? Good luck getting that out of the Disney Congress though.

  • by GCP ( 122438 ) on Friday February 20, 2004 @08:01PM (#8345576)
    I think you missed the whole FICTION part.

    I think you missed the whole IMAGINATION part.

    Fiction doesn't require the environment to be cartoonish or absurd, nor does a detailed and realistic environment rule out detailed and realistic characters.

    Tom Clancy's Hunt for Red October has plenty of character interaction, and it's all played out in the amazing environment of real 1980s submarine technology and real 1980s international politics. When I was at the Naval Academy, midshipmen (the students) were required to read it for the many interacting issues of technology, politics, leadership styles, organizational structure, etc.

    Now imagine something similar to Hunt for Red October but stretching to predict the technological, political, social, economic etc. circumstances of a generation or so from now. (And all of those aspects drive each other and provide real motivations for the characters.)

    Assume a Clancy-like author who will put as much effort into his predicted details as the real Clancy does into his fiction. Despite the inevitable forecasting errors, a good, well-informed, careful Clancyish author who did a lot of interviews and a lot of study could create a story that would be far more interesting than just character interactions in the semi-void of a poorly developed environment.

    Personally, I thought 2001 was incredibly boring.

    I don't admire the plot, just the creation of realistic vignettes (based on what was known at that time) of a possible future. As soon as it got beyond Jupiter, it was just random noise as far as I was concerned, but those aspects aren't what I'm referring to.

    If you want factually based forward thinking literature, go read NASA manuals.

    I have, which is why I'm no longer satisfied with today's SF comic books. I think real life is far more interesting, and that goes double for realistic speculations on our future lives.

    I was fortunate enough to be surrounded by NASA people when I was a kid, back when 2001 (movie) came out. I assure you that the NASA folks were entranced by the scenes from 2001 of the space station docking maneuvers, of the interactions of the human crew with the onboard computer (HAL) and other aspects of the movie. It spurred a lot of discussions.

    Imagine such a movie or novel created today. Forget about aliens and hokey telepathic beings and other nonsense. If space is involved, it should just be a reasonable near-Earth industrial and scientific environment. The real thing is more amazing than any alien stories or other hokum. Or, just keep it on Earth.

    Extrapolate today's infant technologies, social movements, economic changes, political changes, etc. with imagination and Clancy-like attention to detail, then (unlike 2001, but like Clancy) have a real plot with real characters against a background that seems even more plausible to the well-informed than to the general public.... ...and THAT is what I'd love to see.

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