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Congress To Force Cable a la Carte Plans 864

unassimilatible writes "Senate Commerce Committee Chairman John McCain seems to be leaning towards sponsoring legislation mandating something I have wanted for a long time: Forcing cable companies to offer "a la carte" programming packages. No U.S. cable or satellite currently offers such a plan. However, as the Washington Post reports, "That may change, if some lawmakers and consumer groups get their way, as the cable industry finds itself under increasing scrutiny. Lawmakers report that their constituents are angry about cable bills that have risen at three times the rate of inflation since the industry was largely deregulated in 1996." McCain money quote: "I go down to buy a loaf of bread. I don't have to buy broccoli and milk to go with it." Bottom line is, cable companies have a government-authorized monopoly, so maybe they need to recieve government-mandated "innovation." Why should I pay for 15 non-English channels?"
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Congress To Force Cable a la Carte Plans

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  • by Gothmolly ( 148874 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:49AM (#8702836)
    While I am completely against government regulation of things like cable, the Cable Companies have made their own bed on this one. They scammed themselves a legal monopoly, now they have to dance to the government's tune. Of course, they'll just pass the 'costs' of this on to the consumer. But they can't claim some kind of moral high ground against 'government interference', when they've been sucking off the government tit for the last 20 years.
  • on the other hand (Score:2, Insightful)

    by WormholeFiend ( 674934 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:49AM (#8702838)
    why can't I have access to ALL the tv channels in the world?

    global village my arse.
  • by thebra ( 707939 ) * on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:49AM (#8702841) Homepage Journal
    I've been wanting this for so long. I hate paying for things I don't need.

    "Besides adding to the cost, cable companies say, selling channels individually might make it difficult for lesser-watched, niche channels to survive."

    This is bad how?
  • Quality (Score:5, Insightful)

    by glpierce ( 731733 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:49AM (#8702843)
    "...angry about cable bills that have risen at three times the rate of inflation..."

    Don't forget that quality has also dropped noticeably. We're paying more for more channels, not more good programs.
  • by stry_cat ( 558859 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:49AM (#8702846) Journal
    My cable company (Comcast) which I hate, does offer me a variarity of packages. If the government would ever allow more than one cable company to serve an area I bet they would offer me even more choice and for less cost. This is a solution looking for a problem. Better would be to lift the current regulations on TV.
  • by MadWicKdWire ( 734140 ) * on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:50AM (#8702851) Homepage
    So when did a-la-carte mean cheaper? Go to a mexican restaurant and order a 3 enchilada meal, and order 1 crispy taco on side. Unless you are going to Taco Bell... that damn crispy taco is going to cost you just about as much as 1.5 enchilada!

    The cable company is going lobby against this big time. If someone just wants TechTV only at their office, it's going to cost them big time. The cable company would at least like to make some profit off of everyone of their subscribers.

    Thats my $0.02... oh yeah forget... since I'm only making one comment today, I'm charging more... that'll be $3.50.
  • by Faust7 ( 314817 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:50AM (#8702853) Homepage
    However, less-watched channels that serve distinct but smaller audiences, such as TechTV and BET, may not survive, because not enough viewers would pay for them.

    Which is fine. TechTV and BET are both complete garbage. What better way to improve the quality of programming than to mandate it through public dollar votes?

    (Just give me Sci-Fi, Cartoon Network, Comedy Central, and the Playbo--er, Discovery, and I'll be good to go. Heck, maybe NBC as well, if for no other reason than this year's feisty presidential election.)
  • It's about time (Score:4, Insightful)

    by G27 Radio ( 78394 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:50AM (#8702856)
    It's ridiculous for me to have to spend over $50/month for cable just to watch Comedy Central. I'd much rather pay just $5 a month for Comedy Central instead of the $30 extra or whatever I have to pay to get the "package" that includes it. Comcast sucks.
  • English channels (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:51AM (#8702864)
    Why should I pay for 15 non-English channels?
    Even without seeing them, I can confidently say they're likely to be more entertaining than the english ones. Nope, no greek Survivor, chinese Friends, or japanese that want to be millionaires.
  • by MotherInferior ( 698543 ) * on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:51AM (#8702866)
    If this is somehow a free-market economy, how is it that Senator John McCain has any business telling cable companies what products they should offer?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:52AM (#8702884)
    ... but are you sure you want big government interfering in private business like this? Sure, your bills will decrease, but once the government has latched onto this industry it'll never let go. We could soon see channels with an anti-war bias get censored off the air 'for our own good', and copy protection built right into the cable system (protected by the DMCA, naturally).
  • by mgs1000 ( 583340 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:52AM (#8702887) Journal
    But cable companies don't work in free markets, they are given a monopoly over their customers.
  • by That's Unpossible! ( 722232 ) * on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:54AM (#8702919)
    I'm not saying I support the government meddling in the affairs of businesses (for they are not subtle and quick to raise prices), HOWEVER...

    They would have to raise their prices quite a bit for most people's bills to go up and not down. Considering I watch about 10 channels of the hundreds I receive.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:54AM (#8702926)
    How does not watching anything send the message that "we want unbundled channels"?
    The problem is not the pricing, it is the concept that because they force you to pay for channels that have no appeal to you, you pay more.
    The way to let the market decide is to force the service to exist first, and then let the market decide if it wants it.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:54AM (#8702927)
    Who modded this "insightful"?
    There are no "market forces" for a government-mandated monopoly.
    The cable companies have charters which GUARANTEE that they cannot lose money on cable; and which GUARANTEE that they will NEVER face competition except from other forms of media.
  • by MotherInferior ( 698543 ) * on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:55AM (#8702944)
    But cable companies ... are given a monopoly over their customers
    Huh? Cable Companies (plural) are a monopoly? Try oligopoly. Maybe. Or, try not watching cable [netflix.com] TV.
  • by Ranger96 ( 452365 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:55AM (#8702951)
    I assume McCain's legislation will also include provisions rendering the contract provisions from content providers that require bundling of their offerings null and void. Otherwise, the point is somewhat moot. It's not just the cable/satellite service providers that are the problem.
  • Not a good thing.. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by BWS ( 104239 ) <swang@cs.dal.ca> on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:56AM (#8702954)
    as I quote someone I read on Fark, as it applies to slashdot as well:
    Members of Fark are a fairly intellectual minority (for the most part). Before you begin going off on your "this is what's best for a free market" spiel, check out the likely results. People here seem to think that the stations they want would be around in a year, because they picked them. Most of them won't. Stations like MTV, VH1, ESPN, SpikeTV, and other mainstream channels have by far the highest viewing (other then the local monsters of CBS, NBC, ect.) The channels I hear people on Fark want: Discovery, some of the News channels, History channel, are channels that, due to their viewership, will not get many subscribers under a "a la carte" system. They die. Pop culture and sports will survive. I'm a sports fan, but I'd like more to TV then sports and sitcoms. I'd rather pop culture not own the airwaves at all times, forcing more useful channels out in a shark tank frenzy of a ratings war, which is exactly what would happen.
  • by handy_vandal ( 606174 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:56AM (#8702957) Homepage Journal
    If companies sell shit you don't want -- don't buy it.

    Yes, this means you have to give up the something you want, because it's bundled with a bunch of shit you don't want. Hang in there -- if enough consumers stop consuming the shit, companies will desperately try to save themselves from bankruptcy by selling you what you really wanted in the first place.

    -kgj
  • by Tree131 ( 643930 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:56AM (#8702969)
    RTFP

    Bottom line is, cable companies have a government-authorized monopoly

    monopoly = monopoly is a situation where for technical or social reasons there cannot be more than one efficient provider of a good

    Unlike Microsoft, there is no alternative to the 2 or 3 services, one of them being the Cable Monopoly, because they ALL bundle their channels.
    I have to buy 100 extra channels just to watch TechTV and Cartoon Network, and then spend an hour Removing all the shopping and religious channels, as well as Fox News and A&E.

  • by EricWright ( 16803 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:57AM (#8702975) Journal
    Well, I hate to break it to you, but what's stopping TW/Charter/Cox/etc. from charging you $3/channel (or pick your favorite insane amount) on the a la carte plan? They will still be (essentially) a monopoly.

    And what about the niche channel you like (TechTV maybe?) that the general populace couldn't care less about? Will you be happy when they go under because only a select few people want to pay for it?

    I'd love to see a la carte television myself, but only if it's a reasonable price and the selection doesn't decrease. In reality, I just don't see that happening.
  • by JohnnyCannuk ( 19863 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:57AM (#8702977)
    Yeah! Let the market decide! If you don't like the price don't by it and force the price down, just like gasoline and electricity and natural gas....

    Oh wait....

    Dude, sometimes the market can't or won't decide. Then the government, who are supposed to have the interest of the electorate not the cable company executives and shareholders, will decide.

    Sometimes governement interference is bad, sometimes its not.
  • by Trespass ( 225077 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:57AM (#8702979) Homepage
    This is bad how?

    This is bad because it further encourages the homogenization of the entertainment industry.
  • Re:It's about time (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Lucius Septimius Sev ( 766060 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:57AM (#8702980)
    That is not going to happen. Most channels like Comedy Central will not be sold as one shot deals. You might like it but its not a very popular channel compaired to TBS and USA. Those will be the channels that are sold like that because they are the most popular if at all. A bill like this will be punted around in Congress for a few years if it even gets to the president's desk. Do not underestamte the cable industry.
  • by 91degrees ( 207121 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:58AM (#8702991) Journal
    If there was only one supermarket, then they probably would demand you buy everything in chunks of standard sizes. The thing is, we have competition, so since the customers don't want it, they could go somewhere else that does offer what they want.

    Cable companies don't have such competition. There's typically a choice between the local cable provider and a couple of satellite providers. They can get away with this sort of thing by a sort of unspoken agreement. If one of them offered a la carte, so would the others. .

    Essentially this is the prisoner's dilemma. They both know that they will both get the best results by cooperating
  • by Bodhidharma ( 22913 ) <(jimliedeka) (at) (gmail.com)> on Monday March 29, 2004 @10:59AM (#8703006)
    It's not the cable/satellite providers. It's the channels themselves. If I'm running Jim's Cable TV and I want to offer my customers TNT, for example, Turner might make me buy TBS, The Cartoon Network and the CNN channels as one package. That means I have to charge my customer for all those. So I might as well give him the channels he is paying for.

    I know this because I worked for a satellite TV provider. It was like pulling teeth to be able to offer ESPN to our customers. Finally one of our managers had to call Eisner personally to straighten things out. As much as I'd like to make the cable companies out to be the bad guys, it's really the networks.

    Jim

  • by kjs3 ( 601225 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:02AM (#8703033)
    This is bad how?

    Just don't bitch when all there is on the carte are the most profitable, vanilla, mainstream channels.

  • by ObiWanKenblowme ( 718510 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:02AM (#8703035)
    Maybe, maybe not - but I'm damn sure my cable converter does. Maybe "all the stations in the world" is a bit much to ask for (then again, maybe not) but it's not a technological limitation.
  • by jfengel ( 409917 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:04AM (#8703055) Homepage Journal
    Ah, but what exactly will those costs be? At least some consumers, who will get only two or three channels, will pay less. Those who really do watch all 395 channels will pay more. Funny that more government regulation should play out like free-market capitalism.

    The losers may not be the consumers, but the low-end stations that are being subsidized right now. If the cable company drops 78 of those 395 channels because nobody's watching, there aren't any costs to pass on to the consumer (but I'm sure they won't be dropping prices, either). It sure sucks if you work for one of those 78 channels, and they pay the costs, but we can save money by exporting those jobs to India...wait, wrong discussion.

    The consumer will also lose out on those 78 channels of original programming, but such is life in a free-market economy: if not enough people want it, you can't get it.
  • Re:Unbelievable (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Cheeze ( 12756 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:06AM (#8703071) Homepage
    umm...the congress is in place for the good of the american people, but you say this, "Have we no bigger problems in the world..." What do the problems in the world have to do directly with america? Sure, we love to stick our nose in the doggy poo-poo, but we also have our own problems.

    cable companies have a monopoly just like the phone companies used to. What happens when the cable companies start tacking on service fees for maintenance of their own network? They get regulated just like the phone companies did. If I buy cable, why do I also have to pay for 100 channels that I didn't want?
  • by jcoleman ( 139158 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:06AM (#8703076)
    I've been wanting this for so long. I hate paying for things I don't need.

    Why do you have cable TV in the first place, then?
  • by Enry ( 630 ) <enry@w a y ga.net> on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:06AM (#8703077) Journal
    It's not always the cable companies that force bundling. Take a look at Disney. They force cable companies to buy their channels in blocks so that while a cable company may only want ESPN and the Disney Channel, they also have to pick up Toon Disney and other channels as well. This additional cost gets pushed onto the consumers.

    Didn't Viacom and EchoStar have a fight over this issue just a few weeks ago?
  • by Ridgelift ( 228977 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:06AM (#8703078)
    "I go down to buy a loaf of bread. I don't have to buy broccoli and milk to go with it." Bottom line is, cable companies have a government-authorized monopoly, so maybe they need to recieve government-mandated "innovation." Why should I pay for 15 non-English channels?"

    As a Canadian, we're used to this sort of socialism (NB: Socialism != Fascism != Communism). Many french and other non-english channels cannot survive in the market without being subsidized. Take our music industry for example. If you want to run a radio station here, you must play a certain percentage of Canadian artists so that US artists do not swamp out our industryt altogether.

    All in all, I think forcing people to pay for a small percentage is a good thing, but then again what do I know? I'm just a brain-washed Canadian.
  • by A55M0NKEY ( 554964 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:07AM (#8703087) Homepage Journal
    I just delete HSN style channels from my listing, but no doubt these channels pay the satellite company X dollars to carry them. If any of this is passed on to the consumers then I will lose the bite that I take from people that actually buy stuff from those channels in the form of jacked up prices. Will this mean more or less Ron Popiel in the morning? I could cancel a channel that feeds me too much Prolong-lets-you-drive-without-oil, but then price may come into play.
  • by That's Unpossible! ( 722232 ) * on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:08AM (#8703106)
    Well, I hate to break it to you, but what's stopping TW/Charter/Cox/etc. from charging you $3/channel (or pick your favorite insane amount) on the a la carte plan?

    Market forces? TV is a luxury, and they have competitors via satellite TV and the internet.

    And what about the niche channel you like (TechTV maybe?) that the general populace couldn't care less about? Will you be happy when they go under because only a select few people want to pay for it?

    If there is no market for it, why is it on the air? Why should people who don't like it subsidize it? I may lose a channel or two that I care to watch, but that is capitalism baby!
  • by AceM2 ( 655504 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:09AM (#8703112) Journal
    This is hardly leftist. Pissing off companies that hold a monopoly goes all the way back to Teddy Roosevelt, arguably the most liked republican behind President Lincoln and President Reagan. McCain is more of a centrist, but he's obviously republican...

    Now, if the story had said that McCain wanted this and a pony... You might have something to your theory of the leftist bent... But of course, no silly obvious bias would be allowed to be put in story here... No.. Of course not!
  • Re:Super idea. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Jackle ( 713326 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:12AM (#8703136) Homepage
    Funny, this post could have been from me, I did the same thing last year. I also took up earthlink on their offer to host my cable modem. Now roadrunner (Time Warner Cable) only gets half of the bill they used to charge for my cable access. Earthlink gets the other $20/month. Not to mention they no longer get the $50/month for the crap on tv they used to pipe into my house. Why do I need tv when I've got slashdot? Here's what I don't get. All of these cable channels (except for premium) run as many commercials per hour as the channels that I get for free over the airwaves. Charging as much as they do for these channels, there's an aweful lot of money getting made somewhere.
  • by Gothmolly ( 148874 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:13AM (#8703156)
    The ILECs have stuck all kinds of charges and fees on our phone bills to cover the 'costs' of government compliance.
    Low-end stations that are being subsidized right now already ARE losers. Economic darwinism is circling over them, ready to strike the minute that the government wind blows the other way. Their mandate for existence is tenuous at best.

    Non mainstream programming will have to revert to unrestricted media, like radio or over-the-air TV, or the Internet. In the Warsaw ghetto it was underground newspapers. It will always survive. The problem is that you can't both claim a right to protection, and then demand a blank check on what you produce.
  • So when did a-la-carte mean cheaper?

    True, but ultimately it won't work this way.

    With a-la-carte services they'll start out, pricing each particular program higher, like you say.

    But people will buy less. People will only buy 10 or 15 channels when formerly their package had 160 channels. And at the high individual program price, consumers will be even more discerning, cutting out ones they really don't want. To get the per/household revenue back to what it was, the cables companies will ultimately have to lower the individual prices to stay competitive.

    Right now it costs the same for pay per view to watch the same movies we can get at Blockbuster. But if they raised the price a doller per rental, I'd go right back to Blockbuster.

    .02

  • by AceM2 ( 655504 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:17AM (#8703199) Journal
    TV will not be forced to innovate or die just because some people who probably don't watch tv much anyway cancel their tv subscriptions. Face it, not many people who actually watch are going to want to do that.

    We can however force them to change and innovate by telling them what we want! Look at it this way... You think MTV has become a pile of trash, but you like what's on [random channel]? You tell your cable company you don't want it. Enough people do that and MTV realizes they have to innovate, yet you still get to watch your shows on [random channel]. Actually, not only do you get to watch them, but the owners of that network realize they have a good thing going and are less apt to change their shows.

    As things are now, the networks don't give a care about what you think. They can pretty much put up whatever they want and still get paid. The ratings systems in place now don't cut it... What's wrong with giving the consumer more control over what's on?

  • by TopShelf ( 92521 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:18AM (#8703227) Homepage Journal
    "Lawmakers report that their constituents are angry about cable bills that have risen at three times the rate of inflation..."

    I get so sick of hearing complaints about the cost of X rising than more than the rate of inflation. Guess what, the inflation rate is an overall value, some things will grow at a higher rate, some lower. Given the fact that the value provided by cable has grown*, I really think people don't have much to complain about here. Think also of how much time people really spend watching cable - it is basically the main form of entertainment in most homes.

    This is like the constant whining over the price of gas. If you actually consider the value that consumers get out of it, the price itself isn't so bad.

    * While it is fashionable to constantly bemoan the lack of good content on TV, look at the diversity of offerings that cable provides, and the opportunity for shows to reach major success from small beginnings that never would have occured on network TV (like Trading Spaces or Queer Eye).
  • by walt-sjc ( 145127 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:18AM (#8703229)
    Here's what I see happening.

    Cable rates will go up even more.

    Cable companies will charge even more for the individual channels in order to recoup the costs of administering the additional choices. Popular channels will go sky high such as CNN, ESPN, HGTV, etc. The channels nobody want's (QVC, HSC) will be free anyway. I wouldn't doubt if channels like QVC actually pay cable companies to carry them. Without those "support" dollars, they will pass on the full true cost (and then some) of those good channels.

    If you look at the technical issues, the only way to really do this is with digital TV. Considering the $5 or so / TV cost of the stupid box (plus even more for a remote in many places) that raises prices for households with a bunch of TV's. With old-analog, you could tivo multiple different channels at the same time while watching a third or fourth all on different channels. With digital, I'd need a box for each tivo plus one for each TV. It's easy to pay an additional $25 / month for stupid boxes.

    Thanks but no thanks.
  • by mengel ( 13619 ) <(ten.egrofecruos.sresu) (ta) (legnem)> on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:19AM (#8703235) Homepage Journal
    Based on what? Why would it cost $45 for those six channels?

    Let's face it, most of the cable channels are now making most of their money on advertising, just like broadcast media do. And that income is already based (roughly) on viewership.

    And the big "premium" channels, which aren't largely advertising-income-based, are already purchased separately, 'cause they charge by the viewer, 'cause that's how they pay for their content (i.e. movies).

    So moving all of their income to a viewership-based model will actually be a minor change for them.

    No, what it means is the cable companies will have to stop using the addition of channels you don't want as an excuse to charge you more money. Plain and simple.

    It's too darn bad that McCain didn't get the Republican nomination a few years back; he's one of the few Republicans I would actually vote for.

  • Think of it. Content providers charge based on total subscribers. This is why your satellite providers can offer cheaper service. they operate on a wholesale business model.

    Cable companies are stuck with an exponentially smaller subscriber base, so prices will be higher than dish.

    Now, if you begin to divy up on a per channel basis, where you had 300k of subscribers to charge equally for the Discovery channel, you now have to charge more for Discovery channel for the subs that want it. So ostensibly, you could be paying a ton more for your service.

    plus, on the feasibility end of things, you would force 1 of 2 methods of channel blocking; either putting traps on the line outside, and attenuating the total signal getting into the house, or setting up an addressable cable converter for each set in the house, and scrambling all the cable channels on the service.

    So, it sounds good, until you actually look into what you would have to do to get it. I wonder if the government would subsidize cable companies to convert to this new system. Oh, but if you get into gov't subsidies, then you're beholden to the government to transmit their party line.

  • by iceperson ( 582205 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:20AM (#8703250)
    from land that's owned by the taxpayers then I'll stop calling for my representatives to represent my interest when it comes to said equipment.
  • Re:Awesome! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Beatbyte ( 163694 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:22AM (#8703273) Homepage
    so you're assuming that they're not going to put a price cap on these channels? as if the government didn't know this was going to happen?
  • by abiggerhammer ( 753022 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:24AM (#8703292)
    Nothing in the article indicates that cable companies will only be able to offer a la carte services. I fully expect that Comcast, Warner, et al will go on offering their package-deals, and that most consumers won't have the time or inclination to pick and choose only the channels they want.

    For that matter, nothing's stopping the cable companies from providing a la carte selection at some outrageous price and package-deals at the prices they've been charging all along, on the grounds that if people want a service, they'll have to pay for it at a price the market will bear.

    The lament that "oh, we'll be paying $45/month for 6 channels" makes sense only if a-la-carte-only is mandated.

  • by 91degrees ( 207121 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:27AM (#8703330) Journal
    Uhmm.. No. Just that there should be no restriction to someone else opeining up a car service shop.
  • by jandrese ( 485 ) * <kensama@vt.edu> on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:27AM (#8703331) Homepage Journal
    Obvously the solution is to expand the legislation to include the content providers as well. Moreso, I think they should further stipulate that buying all of the channels seperately vs. buying them all as a package should not increase the price premium by more than 10%. I know this wil cause an unbelievable amount of bitching and moaning from the whole industry, but I think it is best for them.
  • by Dracolytch ( 714699 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:29AM (#8703357) Homepage
    Sure, things are cheaper in volume. I honestly don't care about volume though. With my current company, my food choices are:
    No food
    One Taco
    15 Enchiladas
    Free reign of the kitchen

    There's a big space between one taco and 15 enchiladas.

    Right now I get about 60 channels, and I watch ~maybe~ 5 of them. I would happily drop the rest.

    If I drop 92% of my cable service, and the price doesn't go down, then something's fucked up.

    ~D
  • I'll bite (Score:3, Insightful)

    by glpierce ( 731733 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:29AM (#8703360)
    You listed 12 shows, two of which are over, if memory serves. So, you've got 10 shows on I'm guessing well over 70 channels (but I'll stay conservative and say 50). That's one show for every 5 channels. I remember the days when most channels had more than one good show (and we're talking about a decade ago, when we had about 30 channels). 10 decent shows is nothing to toot your horn at.
  • by Violet Null ( 452694 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:31AM (#8703384)
    People aren't going to want to order a channel that they rarely watch, even if that channel occassionally has a show that they view.

    Depends on the price. Besides, undoubtedly, cable companies would offer "bulk" discounts -- "Buy ten channels and get the eleventh free", or "Buy _all_ the channels for the low, low price..." If it costs five extra bucks to get some rarely watched channel, sure, people aren't going to do it a lot. If it costs fifty cents...that's much more likely.

    This will also make it extremely difficult to start new channels. Since consumer won't just get a channel added to their lineup as now, a new channel will have to fight extremely hard to gain viewers.

    And this'll be different from today...how? The new channel has to have enough startup cash in order to get shows, and to get the cable company to broadcast them -- which usually involves paying the cable company, not the other way around. And once that's happened, the new cable channel is now one of a few hundred channels available to the viewer. Even today, without some sort of new killer show, that channel's going to get buried in the noise.
  • by Jtheletter ( 686279 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:34AM (#8703422)
    between pure a la carte and pakcage deals is more likely the best way to handle this. It's true that if everyone could just order the individual channels they wanted then it would a) be more expensive on a per-channel basis, and b) this meta-market would cause a lot of the less-watched channels to disappear altogether. "Great! I don't watch them anyway, who cares" you might say, but think about how many people watch schlock like American Idol and reality TV shows. I, for one, do not want what channels survive dictated by the majority of television viewers who seem to like total crap. At the same time, I just had my cable rates raised (RCN) this month by another $6/month to add the lifetime movie channel, the Tennis channel, and 4 other channels that I have absolutely no interest in. It's like ordering dinner at a restaurant and getting charged for an appetizer you're allergic to because the kitchen needs to get rid of the extra stock.

    Instead of a pick-channels-one-by-one approach there just need to be smaller bundles, and you can pick 3 or 4 of these bundles with basic service and then maybe add an extra bundle for an added charge. Put sports channels together, put women's tv channels together, non-english channels, tech, entertainment, etc. Each bundle could be 10 or so related channels and, sure, you might not be getting 100% just what you want but now you've reduced the cost increases due to a la carte pricing, and buffered the loss of channels due to market demands. I would much rather pay $40/mo and only get 8 channels I don't want to see than (currently) pay $80/mo for something like 50 channels I don't want.

  • by eXtro ( 258933 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:36AM (#8703449) Homepage
    That's only true if they stop offering bundles. It would save a lot of money for people like me though. I get basic cable because it's the only way I can get a cable modem. Beyond the basic cable it'd be nice if I could get the Sci-Fi channel and the National Geographic channel as long as I have to have it. If I want to get those now I have to shell out another 30 bucks per month because I get 50 or so other channels that I'll never watch. So if for 21 or 27 bucks per month instead of 15 I could get 2 extra channels it'd be a big win for me.

    I don't know how this would work though. My cable company offers probably around 100 channels but they're arranged in tiers. Up to 14 or something is basic, up to 70 is expanded basic and above that there are the various movie channels.

    So with a handful of analog filters they can cut out what isn't purchased on a per customer basis.

    If ala carte is forced then they'll have to have bandpass filters that are only 1 channel wide and a mixer so that a few of these filters can be run in parallel and then combined for delivery to the customer.It'd be easier for digital cable though.

    Your example is busted. If I go into a Mexican restaurant I can order a special which has 3 items. It's a bit cheaper than ordering each item individually but it's not one third the price. If I know I'm not going to eat three enchilada's I can order 1. Yes, it will be a bit more expensive per enchilada than if I order the special. It'll be less expensive per enchilada I actually eat though.

  • by DrRobert ( 179090 ) * <<rgbuice> <at> <mac.com>> on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:39AM (#8703493) Homepage
    It seems that there are lots of smaller channels that I get as part of my package that I like quite a bit. It is possible that on group package you will receive unexpectedlty good material that you would not have know to select. The benefits to ala cart programing would assume that all the channels would cost the same amount and you would select the ones you want. In practive it would likely be that channels with high ratings (and therefore, hig ad revenue) would be cheaper. Channels with low ratings (ie. the good ones) like OLN would then cost a fortune. Personally I like the idea of large revenue channels carrying the load for the low ratings channels.
  • by MotherInferior ( 698543 ) * on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:43AM (#8703531)
    Free maket? ... A few months ago, I switched to satellite for lower monthly costs, and a low cost TiVO.

    Thanks for answering your own question. Makes life easier for me.

  • by His name cannot be s ( 16831 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:45AM (#8703552) Journal
    Yes, in our socialist state of Canuckistan, we are indeed forced to accept the Canadian programming along with the Foreign content.

    However, I'd still take a-la-carte programming within those restrictions.

    Canadian content must be 1/3 of the total availible programming. Ok, I want 14 foreign channels, I'll take 7 Canadian ones. (7/21) That to me seems fair.

    Instead, I'm forced to take shit by the tier, and in order to get two fucking channels I want I need to take somewhere near 60. And none of which I care about.

    APTN? The Aboriginal Peoples Television Network? I'm sorry that there is not enough people to support such a station, but If I don't wanna watch it, why should I have to pay for it.

    No fucking wonder there are a million households in Canada pirating US satellite service.

    Feh;
  • by jmacleod9975 ( 636205 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:46AM (#8703567)
    I wish we could take it a step further and only pay for the shows we watch not the channels. I mean I would pay $2 for the chance to see the Simpson's episode this week. If 10 million other people feel the same way then the simspons gross 20 million. Minus the cost per episode which I think they said is around 1 million, minus delivery costs, maybe a few million per episode and they still make a tidy profit.

    Then all those shows people want to see they can. Just get a few hundred thousand people willing to fork over like $10 an episode and there you go.

    Best of all, no commercials needed.
  • by mikeboone ( 163222 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:47AM (#8703582) Homepage Journal
    I think it would be cool if you paid for cable usage like you do for electricity...for how much you use. Give me access to every channel, and charge me by the minute. If I really like a certain show, I'll be willing to pay for it. If I go on vacation for a couple weeks, I pay nothing.

    It might also cut down on the mindless hours people spend in front of their TVs.
  • by s4f ( 523726 ) * <steveNO@SPAMstevefeinstein.com> on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:47AM (#8703585) Homepage
    I don't know if I would want to pay for C-SPAN, If watch it once a week, that's a lot. And probably more than most. Yet. I really like the idea that it's there shining a light on what goes on in congress. And I'm willing to pay for it as a part of my cable bill, If there's not enough like me, then it'll go away. That would be bad.

    Also the cable companies need to make it easy and CHEAP to switch channels. Now you have to call them up, and it's a minimum of $5 for any changes. They should give me a package that I can choose 15 channels, and let me pick which, and change them at will.

    I would be reasonable to have then force you to make only one or two changes a month. Otherwise you could effectively rig the system to let you watch all of it. Especially if there was a web interface to the selections.

  • Re:$1.00/channel (Score:3, Insightful)

    by $ASANY ( 705279 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:50AM (#8703615) Homepage
    Why have a fixed rate per channel? I'd bet that some providers would be willing to offer their channels at a discount, and some would probably charge a premium. Let's say Animal Planet at $1.50 and TechTV at $.50. That lets providers choose whether they'll earn revenues from subscriptions, from advertizing, or a mixture of both. If people don't feel they're getting their money's worth, they drop the channel.

    Cable/Sattelite providers could then get a percentage of whatever is charged (say 20% of the channel fee). This would end up creating incentives all over the place.

    First, cable/sattelite providers would have a vested interest in ensuring a readily available volume of channels. The more valuable the services they provide and the more people want them, the more money they make. Content providers would have the option of investing to create high-subscription rate programming, or to try for high-volume lower investment channels. Niche providers would have the barrier for entry lowered since cable/sattelite providers would want to offer the largest menu possible.

    It's really hard for content providers to get quality data about how consumers value their programming right now. Nielsen is far from a great provider of information to the industry, but it's the only game out there now. If this actually became a marketplace, the consumer feedback would be undeniable and of absolutely perfect quality. With better information about what consumers want, the chance of actually having it provided increases dramatically.

    And best of all, those crapola channels that you don't want would either have to lower their subscription price to the floor to keep you as a customer, or fold, thus uncluttering the lineup. We could use a few less home shopping channels, eh?

    I am not a fan of regulation, and have seen far too much of it develop unintended consequences that poison the expected benefits. Looking at this though, all I see is a win everywhere, even for the cable companies. I can't see a downside if this is done properly.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:53AM (#8703654)
    Sure, if the Cable Companies are required to offere services a la carte they might just gouge their customers by charging $5 a channel, but I doubt they'd get away with that. The cable companies have gone a long way to make sure that they aren't seen as villians, and that might break the image they've maintained so far. One thing they will almost CERTAINLY do, however, is link cable Internet packages exclusively to the more expensive all-inclusive packages. "Oh, you want cable Internet? Ok, that's either $50/month without a package, or $25/month when you sign up for one of our 4 premium packages (that will all, of course, include those channels you don't want, and perhaps some premiums like HBO, etc that you can't afford). We don't support a la carte channel selection with our cable combo plans."

    As for me, I'd welcome a la carte programming. I don't watch anything other than ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX, all for football (and I get those for free over the airwaves), History, TechTV, and CNN. I don't need the Fishing, Golf, Telemundo, CSPAN, TVGuide, FOXNews, etc channels. The only time I watch them is scrolling through to get to one of the 7 channels I do watch.
  • by anachattak ( 650234 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:53AM (#8703657)
    And that monopoly is not afraid of legislation. I wouldn't be suprised if the cable industry (with a little MPAA backing) attempt their own counter-offensive in Congress, arguing that forcing them to unbundle channels will run them out of business.

    We already know how willing they are to lie and fabricate numbers to get the legislation they want. In Tennessee, they've fabricated ridiculous statistics they claim are "losses from theft of service" in order to push through the MPAA's SDMCA bill. It's in the legislative committees right now and Tennessee Digital Freedom is working hard to stop them.

    There's an e-mail campaign [tndf.net] going on right now at Tennessee Digital Freedom [tndf.net] to try to let legislators know that the SDMCA is wrong for Tennessee and that monopolies like the cable companies do not need additional protection from government. If anything, CONSUMERS need protection from the monopolists (and their lobbyists).

    I encourage everyone to visit the TNDF website, check out the e-mail campaign [tndf.net] and let politicians know what you think!!!

  • by senatorpjt ( 709879 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:54AM (#8703668)
    The consumer will also lose out on those 78 channels of original programming, but such is life in a free-market economy: if not enough people want it, you can't get it.

    That's not how a free-market economy works. If not enough people want it, you can get it, it's just more expensive. It's why an 8" LCD panel costs more than a 15" one.

    There are a lot of channels that maybe NOBODY cares about, but I think that certain niche channels (like TechTV) probably have viewers that are interested enough to pay more for it. I don't think the proposed legislation says anything about all of the channels having to be the same price.

    For example, on cable here, there is a Hindi channel, but it costs $20/month for ONE CHANNEL. But, apparently people pay it anyway, because it's still being offered.
  • by Pxtl ( 151020 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @11:59AM (#8703729) Homepage
    Yes, but its not a true free market. Cable companies have physical advantages of use of a land-line system that they other systems are not physically capable of competing with. Its like saying that, if there was only one car company, that they did not have a monopoly because you can still buy a motorcycle or take the bus.

    Lets say there was only MS (sick sad world) on PC. DOn't like it? Oh, just get a Palm. Or a tablet. Or something else that's not a PC. Wait, you want a PC, but not MS?
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  • by poot_rootbeer ( 188613 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @12:12PM (#8703866)
    Mandating that an a la carte purchase option must be available does not preclude the cable companies ALSO continuing to offer package deals. If you want all 200 channels? Sure, you can get that, and instead of paying $3 per channel you'll pay $0.50 per channel. But me, I only watch 5 of those channels, so I'll gladly pay the higer per-channel rate. Different customers will rate value in different ways.

    Bottom line, if I only want a chicken enchilada, I shouldn't HAVE to buy the cheese and beef enchiladas too in order to get it. If I DO want all three, the restaurant can bring them to me all on one plate and charge me less for it.
  • Fine, but... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by papasui ( 567265 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @12:20PM (#8703986) Homepage
    If your are going to require cable companies to provide any channel ala carte then you need to require any competing company to do the same (Dish systems). It's the content providers that force the MSO's to bundle channels that 95% of the subscribers will never watch. On top of all this I would expect it to be pricey to get an indivdual channel, ~7$. The entire cable network would be forced to upgrade to digital which would cost millions, and all your tv's would require a digital box. And if your wondering, I'm a net admin for a major cable company.
  • Re:I'll bite (Score:3, Insightful)

    by That's Unpossible! ( 722232 ) * on Monday March 29, 2004 @12:25PM (#8704043)
    Two problems with your logic:

    1. I wasn't listing ALL quality shows, just the ones I watch most often. I don't spend much time watching TV (thank you PVR gods). There are plenty more quality shows available across the spectrum. Programming on PBS, Discovery Channel, History channel, and A&E comes to mind.

    2. "I remember the day when..." is a fallacy. Yeah, yeah, "back in the good, old days" everything was better... uh huh.

    3. If the number of quality programs has increased, regardless of whether the number of channels has increased, than the amount of quality programming has increased. I don't care if the vast percentage of overall programming is lousy, as long as my choices for quality programming have INCREASED.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29, 2004 @12:26PM (#8704061)
    Here's what I see happening: me cancelling my cable service and picking up a book. Screw you, Time Warner.
  • by fdicostanzo ( 14394 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @12:27PM (#8704066)
    Use all the extra bandwidth to serve all programs on demand. The industry is heading this way anyway. Then, the cable provider is just an ISP.
  • by MotherInferior ( 698543 ) * on Monday March 29, 2004 @12:29PM (#8704106)

    And the Federal Government is going to make it better?

    Come on. That we have to pay more and more each year for this privilege sucks and all, but hey, at least your opinion means more on Slashdot! :-)))))))

  • Deregulation (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Wun Hung Lo ( 702718 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @12:32PM (#8704134)
    I think it's interesting that rates have gone up astronomically SINCE deregulation. Why is it that companies go before Congress and say "If we didn't have all this government oversight and regulations to deal with, we would be able to make more money and charge the consumers less." Well, guess what? The airlines, the savings & loan crisis, the energy companies all started either going bankrupt or ripping everyone off. Then, of course, they go back before Congress and say "It's not our fault, you didn't regulate us!"
  • by krgallagher ( 743575 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @12:42PM (#8704238) Homepage
    Cable rates will go up even more.

    That is always a given.

    Popular channels will go sky high such as CNN, ESPN, HGTV, etc. The channels nobody want's (QVC, HSC) will be free anyway.

    I think you have this wrong. Since the costs of producing and distributing programming are largely fixed, the huge sponsorship of popular channels will allow those costs to be spread over a larger group. Even at a lower per unit cost total profits will be high. Less popular channels will have a harder time reaching wide enough distribution to be proffitable. Therefore they will require a higher per unit cost.

  • by Inebrius ( 715009 ) * on Monday March 29, 2004 @12:43PM (#8704242)
    The whole cable box thing is how they get their rates to go up.

    I remember back when the cable companies could charge based on how many TVs you had hooked up in the house.

    But then that got dropped (lawsuits?). So now, you pay the same rate for service to the house, and you can run it to any number of TV sets that the signal will support.

    With cable boxes, they bring back a way to charge you per TV again. That is by choice. With digital TV and standards, the basic channels don't need to be scrambled and you wouldn't need separate boxes for each TV. The only ones that would need a box are the ones that get premium channels. But even technology could take care of this.

    There are ways to deliver ala carte, that would not require a separate box per TV with a per box fee, but that is not what the cable/sat providers would want.
  • What gets me is... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29, 2004 @12:45PM (#8704261)
    How reactionary everyone in this country is, your hear a-la carte cable and right away you think then worst (watch less fox news please). No one is trying to take away the "Train Channel" from you. This will not eliminate cable packaging, it is meant to eliminate the "all or nothing" $150 cable package that we have no choice about. Imagine being able to get an "Educational Package", "Christian Package" or "Sports package" and only having to pay for that content. Or just ordering the channels from each of those packaages that you want to watch and creating your own personalized package. My guess, nothing on tv will change. And hella yea, I would pay for C-SPAN, more than I would pay for FOX, CNN or MSNBC. Maybe we could finally get a C-SPAN news channel with the same ideals of the parent channels (not a ratings whore like the rest of them).
  • by DGregory ( 74435 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @12:55PM (#8704376) Homepage
    Except, how do you know that you want to watch the Simpsons? (other than it being on the air for 10+ years) How do you get sucked into watching new shows if you'd have to pay per episode to find out if it sucks or doesn't suck? Commercials for shows don't always make people want to watch them, it's flipping over to the channel, watching for 5 minutes and then getting sucked in and "having" to watch that show every week for the rest of its run.
  • by hobbespatch ( 699189 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @12:56PM (#8704389)
    Cable companies will charge even more for the individual channels in order to recoup the costs of administering the additional choices. Popular channels will go sky high such as CNN, ESPN, HGTV, etc.

    Wait wait wait a second. Don't these channels also have 'commercials' to offset the cost of programming. Didn't corporations pay $1 Million+ for 30 second spots during the superbowl and the final episode of Friends?

    Then how on earth can ESPN, CNN, and HGTV pass on that cost to me if I order them in this mode of cable subscriptions? This isn't pay-per-view or HBO or even PBS. The costs will go down because I won't have 100+ channels I never watch artifically inflating the cost of my DirecTV subscription.

    Even 'if' the cost could be passed on to the consumer, outside of how it already is (Viacom askes for more money from DishNetwork, Dish in turn raises the consumer's rate), the cost will balance out because we won't have to pay for everything else.

  • by swb ( 14022 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @01:05PM (#8704484)
    After the recent Viacom/Dish dust-up, we were reminded of the bundling forced on cable operators by content providers -- want ESPN? Then you need ESPN2, ESPN classic, ESPN gardening, ESPN chess, the Menstruation Network, and the Colonoscopy Channel *or* you don't get ESPN. Oh, and because we're providing so many channels, the cost is high, too.

    Cable operators have said that forced bundling by the content providers forces them to bundle channels as well, since they could easily sell ESPN ala cart but the 27 shit channels they have to pay for as well to get ESPN wouldn't sell, making it a huge money loser.

    I'm generally in favor of unbundled channels, but only if they're vertically unbundled and the cable company only pays the content providers based on the subscriptions they have for those channels. Anything else should be considered a restraint of trade.

  • by TheScottishGuy ( 701141 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @01:17PM (#8704628)
    nonestly i don't think people will end up paying less for cable, what i reckon is likely to happen is that the good channels will be billed at something silly like $5 a month, now that doesn't sound too bad, but figure a base charge for connection say $20-$25 maybe they offer a free channel for the top tier, maybe you add Fox, MTV2, and your favourite sports channel, now already you're at $35-40 a month, your cable bill is $10 cheaper but you have a whopping 4 channels, there's also the point that networks that run multiple channels, like ESPN and MTV and C-span would likely spread the programming so that you need to buy both MTV and MTV2 to get what you really want.
  • by handy_vandal ( 606174 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @01:20PM (#8704654) Homepage Journal
    That would be good advice if there was a company selling only the stuff you DO want. If there's no alternative, than competition does not come into play.

    I'll repeat myself:
    Yes, this means you have to give up the something you want, because it's bundled with a bunch of shit you don't want. Hang in there -- if enough consumers stop consuming the shit, companies will desperately try to save themselves from bankruptcy by selling you what you really wanted in the first place.
    I should have added: When you cancel your account, be sure to write -- or better yet, write and call -- to let the company know why you are dropping their service: make clear what they must do to win back your business.

    Better to do without, than to settle for second-best.

    -kgj
  • by davegust ( 624570 ) <gustafson@ieee.org> on Monday March 29, 2004 @01:24PM (#8704691)

    Cable does not have a monopoly on content delivery. Cable has about 70 million subscribers, compared to 20 million for the two major satellite providers. Nearly all consumers, even apartment dwellers, have a choice between cable and satellite television.

    If you look at how the market has changed in the last five years, cable rates have gone up, but quality and quantity of channels have also improved. Cable improved their product to meet competition from the satellite guys, which traditionally have offered better quality and more channels - appearantly what most consumers want.

    The satellite guys experimented with a la carte a few years ago, but it didn't sell. People wanted the 150 channel package. "Super size it. I want the best value."

    The government should stay out of this particular fight. Market forces are working. The thing regulators need to watch is the mega-mergers between the content providers (News Corp, Time Warner, Disney, etc). It's these guys who have the power now. The cable and satellite guys are nearing a commodity status for delivery.

  • by egarland ( 120202 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @01:38PM (#8704856)
    You can't legislate efficiency and innovation. The only way is to introduce competition. Sometimes, as we see with Linux, the best competition is a free offering. I think the US government should put up a Broadcast TV satellite and hand out transmission rights to it the way they do VHF and UHF channels (or maybe even a better, more democratic system.) Make it capable of delivering 500 channels (or 100 high quality and 300 regular quality channels) and make access to it free, forever.

    A big problem with cable is that the content providers are wanting money simply to allow the cable companies to carry their content. The best (most watched) content is still on the networks that broadcast over the airwaves for free. This is the way TV has worked for years and this is the way it still should work. Let the cable companies scramble over Internet, Phone and Pay-per-view/premium services but make your standard basic cable free.

    If widely adopted this could be a huge boost to the economy since many people's monthly bills would go down $30-$50.
  • by cens0r ( 655208 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @01:41PM (#8704909) Homepage
    Their are millions of people living in apartments that find it extremly difficult to acquire satelite.
  • What I want (Score:4, Insightful)

    by cjpez ( 148000 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @02:19PM (#8705419) Homepage Journal
    I want to take it one step further. I stopped watching TV a few years ago, but there's still the occasional show (Invader Zim comes to mind) that I'd love to see, and just went over to friends' houses to watch. What I want to have is a service that lets me go to a webpage or something, select which *show* I want, and then for that half-hour or so I can watch just that show. There's no way in hell I'm paying a full monthly rate for all of Nickelodeon when the only thing worth watching on it is half an hour on Friday nights, or whenever the hell IZ was on.

    So yeah, that'd be great.

  • by ps ( 21245 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @02:31PM (#8705629)
    I used to want a choice in cable channels. I'm not a big sports fan, so I'd rather not have ESPN, nor QVC, etc. But after I thought about it for a while, it would probably be more expensive to have it ala carte, since the cable networks set the prices for their channels.

    Think about it for a second. We have, what, 108 million cable subscribers in the US? Round that to 100 million for simplicity. If each cable channel (ESPN, CNN, Discovery, etc.) gets $0.25 per subscriber, they get $25 million to cover the costs of production. But if all of a sudden, we have all but 1 million of those people no longer paying, the channel only gets $250,000. So if it actually takes $25 million to produce the shows, then they're going to have raise their costs to $25.00 to make up the difference. Do you want to spend $25.00 a month to pay for SciFi?

    Whether or not it costs $25 million to run the channel is open for debate.
  • by dgatwood ( 11270 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @02:33PM (#8705654) Homepage Journal
    Exactly. The fact that my home town only had one grocery store (most of the time) didn't make it a monopoly because there was no "barrier to entry" preventing competition. It costs roughly the same to open a grocery as any other retail business, with the same basic issues (suppliers, shelves/equipment, location, personnel).

    Other grocery stores came and went. The town just wasn't able to support more than one, so in each case, the family-owned store survived because they were more concerned with staying in business than maintaining high profit margins. If they had raised their prices enough to piss people off, another chain could easily walk in and topple them, and periodically did.

    Cable companies, by contrast, are a monopoly. There is a tremendous cost to starting a new cable company. First, you have to get permission to run lines. For areas with underground utilities, this often proves impossible, which kills that plan before it starts. Next, you have to pay the (often huge) cost of leasing pole space. And of course, you have to spend months running the lines across the city at a tremendous cost.

    Compounding this problem is the contract that many municipalities have with their cable company, which provides for a government-sanctioned monopoly. The city may actually have to go through a termination process to remove the existing company before another would be allowed to provide service (assuming a traditional wire-based distribution).

    Competing technologies like satellite have proven to be ineffectual because of the (perceived) high barrier to entry by the individual consumer (purchasing the system, installing it, etc.) Even the periodic "free dish with free installation" offerings do little to help because the cable companies abuse their monopoly power by showing advertisements disguised as public service announcements that pound lies and half-truths about satellite services into the heads of prospective consumers.

    The only way cable service will ever be priced reasonably is if either there are always two or more cable companies per market or the prices are regulated by law. It's sad that it takes an election year to get our government to even give it a second look. If only every year were an election year.... *sigh*

  • by wildnight ( 621084 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @02:40PM (#8705756)
    This bill would mark the beginning of a new age in entertainment. They'll have to start focusing on filming stuff people are willing to pay for, not just willing to tolerate.
  • by GunFodder ( 208805 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @02:42PM (#8705791)
    When Ma Bell got broken up and several operators were allowed to sell long distance services prices plummetted. I think they have low price calling plans now that include not only the US but Western Europe. It's only a matter of time before you can call anywhere in the world without having to sell your firstborn to pay for it.

    The problem with cable in most areas is that there is one cable operator and satellite, and that's it. What if you bought your basic cable service from an Regional Cable Operator (like a RBOC) and then purchased your cable package separately from one of several competing content providers? They could then compete on price and selection.

    The cable companies may complain about the loss of less popular channels, but that's a smokescreen. Some people will want huge packages like we have today. And some media conglomerates will buy multiple niche channels and sell them as a package to content providers. Most of the premium channels work this way anyway; when you buy HBO you get multiple channels that can serve different niches.

    The cable operators would hate this, and now that they are parts of huge media conglomerates they have lots of resources to fight it. that's why we need government intervention to make it happen.
  • by beforewisdom ( 729725 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @02:52PM (#8705914)
    Give up television totally. - You will not have any cable bill. - If you have kids you will not spend money on junk advertisements aimed at children programmed your kids to nag you into buying. - You will gain several hours a week to devote to other things. - Many studies have shown that people who watch less TV weigh less
  • by ftzdomino ( 555670 ) on Monday March 29, 2004 @03:11PM (#8706167)
    Either less channels will be available under the a la carte model, or the price per channel will be increased. Cable companies or companies creating content will need to take in the same amount of revenue, so if less people buy it they will just have to charge more per person or go out of business. In the long run this will either lead to higher per channel prices or less channels. You could also just cancel your cable entirely and do more useful things with your time than watch TV.
  • ...if enough consumers stop consuming the shit, companies will desperately try to save themselves from bankruptcy by selling you what you really wanted in the first place.

    Here's the problem with these blanket "If enough consumers blah, blah, blah" statements that I always hear on /. and from my friends. Enough people never do. Joe Average wants his entertainment, and although he may not like the cost and bitch about it, he can't live wihtout it, and neither can his family. He continues to pay the exhorbitant costs becuase he wants his entertainment, and so do his wife and kids, each of whom would probably give him shit if he doesn't poney up the cash.

    It sucks, but that's the way things are. It's easy enough for us to say and do the "If Joe Average blah, blah, blah" statements because we're not Joe Average. Unfortunately, Joe Average usually doesn't see things the same way, or sometimes does but will continue to pay the costs becuase he's too lazy or has some external forces influencing his decision making.

    Personally, I don't pay for cable (other than the basic-basic, broadcast channels without the static package, becuase it was only $5 more per month than just the cable modem subscription). When I moved into my apartment, my roommate and I thought about how much TV we actually watched and decided that it wasn't worth the extra $50 a month just so that there might be something good on whenever we are bored enough to sit down and watch TV. Instead we have the internet, DVDs, and (gasp!) books to keep us entertained.

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