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Spiderman 2 Trailer 280

Posted by michael
from the a-man-a-plan-a-spider:-spiderman dept.
Ant writes "Apple just posted the Spider-Man 2 trailer after the trailer was shown on The Apprentice for west coast."
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Spiderman 2 Trailer

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  • It was actually... (Score:5, Informative)

    by Bourdain (683477) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:09AM (#8814862)
    on the east coast too at about 40 minutes into the show for those with Tivo's.
  • by nightsweat (604367) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:10AM (#8814867)
    I'd rather see Extreme Makeover - Spiderman Edition.

    They could give him the extra four legs he's always wanted and graft some acting ability onto Kirsten Dunst.
  • cartooney (Score:5, Insightful)

    by VC (89143) * on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:11AM (#8814879)
    The CGI looks kind of cartoonely, kind of like when you can tell during the burly brawl when they stopped using keano and started using the all cgi character.
    That being said ill still go see it... ;-)
    • Re:cartooney (Score:2, Insightful)

      by jgabby (158126)
      I think that's on purpose in this case...given that it's based on a comic book world.
    • The CGI looks kind of cartoonely...<snip>

      I guess it is all about the context of which you are viewing the animation. Films like Spidey and (I assume you were referencing) the Matrix I believe have their atmosphere enhanced by this type of animation. Just as how well Gollumn was translated into CG completely enhanced LOTR.

      That said, the Spidey trailer had some of the best examples of this type of CG I have seen. That isn't to say it always works, though, as last summer's Hulk easily proved. Th
      • I don't think it's fair to compare Golum to the Matrix 2. Golum was cgi intended to represent a being who does not exist in this world and who's physical charecteristics can't be replicated by an actor in a suit. It was consistent and believable. Whereas the matrix cgi was intended to represent Keano, they did a horrible job of making it look good and I think the movie was worse off for it.
    • Wait, it looks cartooney? Kind of like a COMIC BOOK? Hmmm...
    • Re:cartooney (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Golias (176380)
      The CGI in Spiderman was just fine. Certainly better-looking than any stuntman-based attempts at superhero film-making that has come before.

      If you disagree, kindly name three movies (apart from LOTR) which you think have better CGI than the Spider Man films, and we can commence to piss all over a favorite movie of yours.

    • Re:cartooney (Score:4, Interesting)

      by phriedom (561200) on Friday April 09, 2004 @02:50PM (#8819182)
      I think the problem isn't with the animation, but with the goal. Spider-Man moves impossibley fast and ignores some basic physics. I think it is impossible to have a "person" spring 20 feet straight up into the air and not have it look cartooney. If we are going to enjoy the movie, we just have to suspend disbelief and accept that if there were a Spider-Man, then that is how he would move.
  • by Darth_Vito (693141) * <Darth_Vito@hotmail.com> on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:11AM (#8814883)
    Is anyone else annoyed by the amount of story that is given away in trailers now? I guess the production companies must have found that these types of trailers are effective in pulling in audiences to see the movie but it seems to detract from the experience.
    • I love it. They put so much in the trailers now, that if you're shrewd you can usually tell which trailers actually represent the movie, and which are a collection of nothing but the best 2 minutes of the entire movie and the rest is downhill from there.

      But I've never cared about spoilers. I read at least two or three reviews for almost any movie before I see it, to make sure I want to spend the $15 it costs now just for a ticket, popcorn and a drink plus two hours of my time not including all the adverts

      • by FoxMcCloud (572729) on Friday April 09, 2004 @10:07AM (#8815507)
        Well then you should try going to a movie without knowing the plot. It's a totally different experience. I HATE trailers, and try never to watch them... I try to turn my attention to something else during the trailers before a movie.

        I like to go watch a movie just on advice from friends whose tastes I trust, and go watch it without reading a single thing about it and only having been told that they enjoyed it. Try it.

        For instance I saw Bruce Almighty and when the guy met God and whatever, I was totally amazed cause I didn't see it coming at all... I also watched The Butterfly Effect and enjoyed it a lot more than my friends cause the plot totally surprised me, I had no idea what it was about.

        From my point of view, trailers suck, and so do reviews. They just serve to ruin the movie.
        • Well then you should try going to a movie without knowing the plot. It's a totally different experience.

          I've tried it, and found that I didn't enjoy it. I enjoy movies a lot more when I notice the little details and whatnot that I don't notice if I don't already understand the plot. If it's a movie I'm looking forward to (like The Phantom Menace... sigh) I'll even read the book first.

          This is the same effect that one would get from watching the same movie twice in a row, but I seldom have the time, atte

        • And I guess you never enjoy a movie the second time you see it...
    • by re-Verse (121709)
      Completely. About 10 months ago I decided that I will no longer watch trailers. It was the best movie decision I have made. I mean you can't really tell if a movie will be good or not from a trailers. I've seen some bad movies with excellent trailers, and some great movies with terrible trailers. All in all, I really enjoy films a lot more now that all the high intensity parts aren't revealed to me in advance.

      I recommend that everyone try this. See a few movies that you have absolutely no concept of when
      • I've seen some bad movies with excellent trailers, and some great movies with terrible trailers.

        Hmmm, there's a topic for an extended discussion. I'd cite The Matrix as an example of great movie/bad trailer and The Phantom Menace as awful movie/great trailer. And then ther was that Not Another Teen Movie or something like that -- hilarious trailer that prompted me to drag my wife to what turned out to be the most vile, loathsome movie ever.

        On a completely offtopic note -- is there going to be another Harry

        • Yes, the release schedule [imdb.com] is planned through 2007, when Order of the Phoenix will be released.

          I hear that they're working on a new Star Wars [imdb.com] film, too. ;)
      • by IANAAC (692242) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:35AM (#8815127)
        About 10 months ago I decided that I will no longer watch trailers.

        So you're the guy that always climbs over me 1 minute into the movie.

      • Absolutely. The greatest movie brainf*ck of my short and pitiful life was when my friends rented "From Dusk Til Dawn" and I had no clue whatsoever about the massive twist that was going to happen about halfway through. My jaw dropped when it happened and I was like "What the--?" and then looked over at all my buddies who had already seen it, and they were all watching my stunned reaction and grinning.

        It wouldn't have been half as good knowing what was going to happen in the movie beforehand and I am eterna
        • Absolutely. The greatest movie brainf*ck of my short and pitiful life was when my friends rented "From Dusk Til Dawn" and I had no clue whatsoever about the massive twist that was going to happen about halfway through. My jaw dropped when it happened and I was like "What the--?" and then looked over at all my buddies who had already seen it, and they were all watching my stunned reaction and grinning.

          Yeah, me too. I never expected a movie with such a badass opening turn into a half-assed shitty vampire m
    • Fine Line (Score:2, Insightful)

      by dolo666 (195584)
      That's the fine line for the industry; I think with a franchise like Spiderman, the movie will be fun regardless of what plot details leak... I mean it's an action movie, so the total experience is what you're paying for, unlike other movies where the plot matters much more (because it's all some generes have, plot), while the action/comic genre offers more in terms of the experience. Spiderman 1 was very pleasing, but the Hulk was missing plot/char development. I think Spiderman 2 will be better, but I won
    • by prgrmr (568806) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:22AM (#8815004) Journal
      Annoyed? How about totally pissed-off. I first noticed the give-away trailer format all the way back with "Throw Momma from the Train". There were 3 different commercials they were showing on TV and if you'd seen them all, then you saw almost every physical gag they did in the movie. Very disappointing, particularly as ticket prices keep going up the net effect is we are paying for less and less as the trailers reveal more and more.

      The trailer for Hellboy, which I've not seen yet, seems to give a good mix of enticement and still not be a complete give-away. The Hildalgo trailer, however, looks like it shows way too many of the dramatic parts.
      • Skip Hellboy. It's pretty, but the script and characters are completely flat. I was bored the whole way through.
      • The trailer for Hellboy, which I've not seen yet, seems to give a good mix of enticement and still not be a complete give-away.

        Holy shit! You can give a review of a trailer you haven't even seen? I'm impressed.
    • eh, not really. who was it that quipped something about the internet being created solely for geeks to get pr0n and insider movie info? kevin smith? with my daily scouring of the net for movie trivia and upcoming movie info, i usually know a lot about the plot even before the trailer is released. what annoys me is watching a movie that's pretty funny, but the stupid audience who laugh only at the parts shown in the trailers. I have, however, given up on reading reviews. They're all a bunch of sellouts.

    • As a new parent, I appreciate getting the whole story compressed into a trailer. It will be several years before I step foot into a theatre again, and DVD rentals will be few and far between.
    • Anyone noticed... (Score:4, Informative)

      by Hogwash McFly (678207) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:28AM (#8815059)
      When trailers are engineered to produce 'false scenes'? What I mean is that two different scenes/shots are spliced together in the trailer because they coincidentally run on from eachother or work well together. For example: In the trailer for Men In Black (the first film):

      Linda Fiorentino: Let me guess, this is a government conspiracy and you guys are just trying to cover it up, right? (can't remember the exact line)

      Cut to Will Smith: Psh, naw.

      Two different frickin' scenes, I swear!
    • by Gzip Christ (683175) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:43AM (#8815215) Homepage
      Is anyone else annoyed by the amount of story that is given away in trailers now? I guess the production companies must have found that these types of trailers are effective in pulling in audiences to see the movie but it seems to detract from the experience.
      Tell me about it. I was all looking forward to seeing The Passion but then <***SPOILER ALERT***> some jackass came up to me on the street and told me about how the main character dies at the end to save humanity. So I told him "hey jackass, thanks for ruining the movie for me. I'm reporting you to the MPAA for pirating the plot and redistributing it to me. I think you owe Mel Gibson an apology and $10." It's just as well that I didn't see it - it sounds like they just ripped off the ending from The Matrix: Revolutions.
    • Is anyone else annoyed by the amount of story that is given away in trailers now?

      Annoyed, yes, but "now" isn't right. I've been watching a lot of old movies on DVD, and on those DVDs that include the original trailers, I've noticed that the "giving the whole plot away" problem isn't anything new. I've seen it in trailers from the 1950s and earlier.

      Which, if nothing else, makes me believe that it's a practice that will probably never change no matter how annoying it is to some people.

      I think it's one

  • Torrents! (Score:5, Informative)

    by AIX-Hood (682681) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:11AM (#8814884)
  • Direct download link (Score:5, Informative)

    by (trb001) (224998) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:12AM (#8814890) Homepage
  • by Krik Johnson (764568) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:12AM (#8814898) Homepage
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  • w00t! (Score:5, Informative)

    by JoeLinux (20366) <joelinux&gmail,com> on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:12AM (#8814899) Homepage
    I was skeptical after the first trailer came out. However, this one looks just as good as the first, if not better. Looks like real character development (*gasp* *shock*). I also liked the character of the editor of the Daily Bugle. Looks like another weine...er...winner. ...Cluster bombing from a B-52 flying at 30,000 feet is HIGHLY, HIGHLY accurate: The bombs ALWAYS hit the ground.
    • I agree . . . I wish there was more of J. Jona Jameson (The editor) in the first movie . . . I honestly think that if he had more screentime, he would have stolen the show. "PAAAARKERRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
      • Re:w00t! (Score:3, Insightful)

        by *weasel (174362)
        That's funny, I thought he already had.

        Easily the most faithful, honest, and entertaining adaptation of a comic-book character ever.
  • michael (Score:4, Informative)

    by psycho (84421) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:12AM (#8814901) Homepage
    It's spider-man, not spiderman, you insensitive clod!
    • Re:michael (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Friends episode:

      Phoebe: (to Chandler) Hey! (Chandler looks up, startled) Why isn't it Spiderman? Y'know like Goldman, Silverman...

      Chandler: 'Cause it's-it's not his last name.

      Phoebe: It isn't?

      Chandler: No, it's not like, like Phil Spiderman. He's a spider, man. Y'know like ah, like Goldman is a last name, but there's no Gold Man.

      Phoebe: Oh, okay. There should be Gold Man!

      Now I feel unseemly for posting "Friend's" quotes to Slashdot...
  • by Guano_Jim (157555) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:16AM (#8814936)
    Is the sound of all that data suddenly being shot through Akamai's pipes louder than a maglev or not?

  • Listen to Stan.... (Score:5, Informative)

    by Himring (646324) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:17AM (#8814944) Homepage Journal
    I really hope they listened to Mr. Lee on this one. He's sorta the guy behind spidey, and he had some sound advice on how the first movie coulda been a bit better. His argument as to the necessity of Peter Parker "making" his web solution and shooter mechanism made for some good sense, and for him to point out that William Defoe was a superb actor and, thus, should have had his face shown while in "Goblin" mode is something the director should have figured out first.

    With makeup and CGI like it is, Defoe could have easily had his own face used without a hitch, and being the actor he is it would have been far better than the stupid mask.

    Of course, people need to keep in mind that these movies are only "based" on the actual comics and Lee, et al., are not fully consulted....
    • Makeup? CGI? Willen Defoe is so creepy looking, he could've been the Green Goblin with no makeup or CGI whatsoever!
    • Yes, but think of every time that Harry saw the Goblin.. without the mask, we would have had this problem; he gets to act all stupid and not realize that the Goblin looks exactly like his father. Put a mask on him, and hey! It's a whole other person, and he can be none the wiser, which leads into the Hobgoblin bit, as he seeks revenge against Spidey. Granted, the mask looked cheesy as all get out, but even in the comics he wore a mask.
    • I'm not 100% sure they did listen. There's a scene in that trailer where doc oct tells parker to find spider man. He then procedes to throw parker into a brick wall....You'd think that after Parker got back up with only minor injuries that Doc Oct, a genius, would figure out that parker is spiderman. I may be reading too much in to the trailer, but it seems logical. Anyway, my sequel senses are tingling, and they are warning me of a possible dissapointment.
    • by roman_mir (125474)
      Wait a second, wasn't the point of the mask to hide the identity of Goblin from everyone? Without the mask Spiderman would have known from the very beginning who he is up against.

    • by bonch (38532)
      You're clearly a comic fanboy who things every adaptation should be direct one-to-one.

      I really hope they listened to Mr. Lee on this one. He's sorta the guy behind spidey, and he had some sound advice on how the first movie coulda been a bit better. His argument as to the necessity of Peter Parker "making" his web solution and shooter mechanism made for some good sense

      Uh, no, he agreed that it was better for the movie that shooting webs was part of his genetic mutation. Why?

      Because it would have been
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:18AM (#8814952)
    Anyone know what happened to the original Spiderman teaser/trailer that had the jewelry store heist, 'copter getaway, and web slung between the towers of the World Trade Center? It disappeared pretty quick after 9/11.
  • by doublem (118724) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:18AM (#8814958) Homepage Journal
    I think this the first time I've seen a "Download" link that lets you save it to disk with a couple clicks, instead of having to look at the HTML source and download it by hand.

    I guess they got tired of people complaining about not being able to download the trailer.
  • I saw this last night (yes, I watched the apprentice, but only to eye that cute little blonde on there) and it was awesome. From ED, to Herc, and now to one of the worlds most beloved comic heroes, Sam Raimi keeps making awesome stuff. I was a little annoyed at "another Hollywood sequel" a few months back, but after watching the longer trailer, I'm more than excited. In fact, there are three things on my body that are hard right now. I'll leave it to you to figure out what they are.

  • Much better (Score:4, Informative)

    by slaad (589282) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:18AM (#8814964)
    Ah, nice. This is much better than the old trailer ("teaser trailer") I saw a couple of months ago that started off with Peter and Mary-Jane in a diner with a car crashing in. Although that one isn't bad at all. Check out the movie's website [sonypictures.com] and click on "watch it now" under the Full Length Trailer section to see the original teaser and some other stuff as well.
    • "Peter and Mary-Jane in a diner"

      I didn't think you could sit around getting high in restaurants in the US.
    • Re:Much better (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Tibor the Hun (143056)
      I have to disagree with you. The old trailer told us nothing about the movie, and made us think that maybe Doc. Oc knows who Spider-man really is.

      The new trailer explains that he doesn't really know that. He only knows that Parker can get Spider-man, because that's what Green Goblin's son told him.

      It's pretty easy to figure out most of the movie then:

      Parker's life is messed up by being Spider-man, so he quits doing it.

      Green Goblin's son wants to find Spider-man, since he "killed his dad".

      Doc. Oc is cre
  • Hooligans. (Score:5, Funny)

    by blair1q (305137) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:25AM (#8815026) Journal

    Slashdot really needs to be more considerate of small, startup-quality companies like Apple.

    Think of the dropped packets.
    • by Isaac-Lew (623)
      It appears that they are using Akamai. This link explains how Akamai works (basically, they cache on thousands of servers).
      • Apparently, your link was cached on an Akamai server.

        Akamai is mostly owned by Intel, afaik.

        I only mentioned that for those who wanted to be mad at some other kneejerk-meme on this good Friday.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:26AM (#8815034)
    I hate that Amoroso. Please have Spidey thoroughly kick her ass please. The bitch just doesn't want to do her job and will end up in politics unless Spiderman saves the day. He could say something like "Your fired!" just before he kicks her skull in.
    • Heh heh, surfing the web and basically wasting my life away, I stumbled across the horribly mentally disfigured and monsterous Omarosa [realitytvworld.com]. Apparently, she didn't win the Apprentice, but she did win the title of the only Intern Clinton refused to sleep with. [washingtonpost.com] "Jesus, you're gross! Get the hell off me!" the President was quoted as saying.

      And I would also put money that she's the reason the hapless Democrats crumbled into impotent nothingness after a decade of being on top politically.
  • by fleener (140714)
    I downloaded the 45.3MB zipped trailer. Then I had to unzip the 46.3MB Quicktime file and delete the zip file. Wow, they saved a whole megabyte in the transfer. Is their bandwidth savings worth the hoops they make their customers jump through?
    • Re:Most curious (Score:3, Insightful)

      by GR|MLOCK (203716)
      If you want people to download something from your website, you zip it. Pretty much all browsers know how to handle a .zip file. They save it to disk. If you give a link to a .mov, crazy things can happen. People who don't get the whole right-click thing just click on it, and then the QuickTime plugin takes over and loads the thing.

      It's all about MIME types.
    • Re:Most curious (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Eagle5596 (575899) <slashUserNO@SPAM5596.org> on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:48AM (#8815266)
      Oh wow! Such hoops! You mean I have to unzip the file? Oh woe is me, for unzipping is such a difficult process.

      Stop whining, it only makes you look incompetent. Yes, for your information, 1MB of savings per user, over several million hits really does save a lot of bandwidth you insensitive clod.
    • Is their bandwidth savings worth the hoops they make their customers jump through?

      They don't do it for the saving, they do it because most browsers will try to play a .MOV file in the browser window when you click on it. Putting it in a ZIP means the browser will download it.

      Sure they save a huge big 1Mb, and you get a file integrity check thrown in for free!
  • Potential (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Spiderman has the potential of being the best comic book converted to movie series.

    My 2 cents:

    Superman - Classic. Great. But didnt have the technology to bring the movies to their full potential. Story started to fade as it approached the later movies. Didn't fully capture the superman comic.

    Batman - First one was great, possibly one of the best Comic book Movies EVER. The rest...well you've seen them. Storyline altered to make it more entertaining.

    X-Men - Fantastic movies. Very entertaining to w
  • by oogoliegoogolie (635356) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:47AM (#8815252)
    At the end of the trailer it opens a browser and connects to http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/. That's a 'feature' I can do without.
  • MPAA (Score:3, Funny)

    by Malc (1751) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:48AM (#8815262)
    Do we like them or not? I'm confused.
  • by jerkychew (80913) on Friday April 09, 2004 @09:50AM (#8815290) Homepage
    First off, I'm a huge fan of the first one, as well as the comics. I'm not trying to incite a flamewar, but...

    As was said earlier, the trailer gives away pretty much the whole damn movie! We see the initial backstory, the inner demons, Peter throwing away the spiderman costume, Peter putting it back on... I mean, am I going to have to stop watching trailers soon just so I'll be surprised at the theater?

    And second, from the trailer the plot looks almost identical to the first. Evil scientist has a wardrobe malfunction (heh) that turns him crazy, and destroys NYC. Peter wants to be with MJ but has to choose what he really wants (Superman 2, anyone?). Crazy scientist captures MJ, Spiderman has to rescue her.

    Or am I missing something?
    • The marketing groups at the movie studios found out something a long time ago: most people want to know what happens. So they cram as much of the story and important points into 30 seconds as they can. This is a much better move than to just put "Spider-man 2: Summer 2005" on a blank black screen.

      As much as you hate the fact they showed Peter wanting to throw away the costume, many more people want to know Peter is having this turmoil. So marketing sticks it in. As much as you don't want to know why Do
  • by zogger (617870)
    the apprentice is one of the few shows I watch, so I saw the trailer. all of a sudden I jump up and yell HEY, THAT'S DOC OCT!!! Startled GF and we both laughed over it

    heh heh, hadn't even thought about it since the 60's when my dad MADE ME give away my collection when we moved because he didn't want to pay shipping on it with the full sized tractor trailer that moved all our other crap... uh huh, full collection going way back to the 50's, marvel and DC and Mads.. geez....

    that collection would be worth..
    • by mrtroy (640746)
      Your father was unsuccessful...

      The move and the removal of the comic books wasnt due to "shipping". He was trying to turn you from a pansy boy to a man. Unfortunately, due to the avid slashdot reading, he has obviously failed.

      ;)

    • My grandma threw out all my father's Superman comics, going back to issue one, when enlisted in the marines in WWII. She figured he didn't need kiddy comic books anymore when he was off fighting in the pacific...

      He used to tell me, "Son, if my Ma hadn't thrown out my Superone 1, I would be a rich man today. But since she did I can't afford a gardener, so GET OUT THERE AND MOW THE LAWN!"
  • by filpaul (257829) on Friday April 09, 2004 @10:32AM (#8815833)
    Did anybody else catch the joke here?
    With the trailer shown during The Apprentice, they had to include this:

    JJ Jameson, Peter Parker's boss at the paper, says
    "YOU'RE FIRED!!"
  • by BESTouff (531293) on Friday April 09, 2004 @10:42AM (#8815958)
    There was *one* thing I was reaally missing in the first film: the music. Before entering the cinema, I thought I'll hear some kind of remixed spiderman music (like in MI2), but I was very disappointed. Music is really part of my memories about the cartoon (yeah, I know, you couldn't hear it in the comics. Whatever).
  • by CGP314 (672613)
    Perhaps my childhood memories of reading spider-man are inaccurate, but I thought that Otto Octavious was Eastern European. Anyone else remember that? If it's true, why would the movie producers change that? Oh, and what's with his trenchcoat? Where's that lame full body green suit that made me pitty him?


    -Colin [colingregorypalmer.net]
    • Re:Dr. Oc (Score:3, Funny)

      by bfg9000 (726447)
      Oh, and what's with his trenchcoat? Where's that lame full body green suit that made me pitty him?

      They don't want you to pity him, they want you to fear him. And what's more fearsome that a crazy guy with a George Michael haircut walking around in a trenchcoat?

      "This Octopus has NINE big tentacles baby!"
    • Re:Dr. Oc (Score:3, Funny)

      by deft (253558)
      "Where's that lame full body green suit that made me pitty him?"

      Is that you Mr. T? Welcome to slashdot....loved ya in the A-Team.

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