Shifting From P2P To Stream Ripping

An anonymous reader submits "As users continue to try fending off the ever more litigious music industry, some seem to have dropped P2P entirely, moving to ripping instead. While they lose some control over what they are downloading, it's a untraceable way to download music (no way for the RIAA to track users or sue). With some of the more powerful software that's been coming out recently, stream ripping has become more main-stream. Some of the more well known software packages, like StationRipper, allow users to download several thousand songs on a daily basis. And, depending on how you read the law, it's 100% legal. How will the RIAA respond? As more users move to this type of technology to avoid the P2P lawsuits, how will the music industry respond?"

In Soviet Russia

[Anonymous Coward]

In Soviet Russia, rip STREAMS YOU!!!

What I dont want to hear in my stream rips..

[SCSi]

.......(buffering)......(buffering).......

Re:How will the respond?

[localhost00]

I dunno, they'll either change their business model, or find a way to continue to exist through litigation.

I dunno, I think SCO might sue them for that......

The law...

[PeteQC]

And, depending on how you read the law, it's 100% legal.

So i guess it comes down to: And, depending on who has the best lawyers...

strongarming

[hellmarch]

Eventually the RIAA will make more money by scaring people into settling with them than they make from actual record sales. When this happens they will stop making albums and with no new albums to copy piracy will come to a screeching halt. Then with their pockets full of ill-gotten booty the RIAA will move to the Cayman Islands and relax on a beach drinking martinis and being serviced by pool boy sex slaves.

bad pun

[dj245]

stream ripping has become more main-stream.

How about "Having halfway crossed the legal hurdles, stream ripping still has quite an upriver swim before it becomes mainstream"

Or maybe "Stream ripping, while not quite the open floodgates that bittorrent is, is gaining in popularity..."

Or, if you don't like it, "Stream ripping may soon come under the guns of the RIAA and have nowhere to go but downstream."

Re:How the industry will respond.

[damiangerous]

Try inserting an icepick in your ear and it'll all become clear.

Re:What's the equivalent for movies?

[cyril3]

For some strange reason I have a vision of a Kalahari Bushman pulling apart a transistor radio to find the band inside making the noise.

GOD damnit!

[zbuffered]

Every time I find a new way to get music, you /. pussies have to pick up on it and show the unwashed masses how to do it! Now radio stations can't handle the traffic. Now the RIAA's on the scent. Now I can't stream rip. Damn you for showing everyone the idea!
[puff puff]
I'm sorry for yelling. But you guys may have just ruined this by giving it this new audience.

I said it yesterday...

[The Master Control P]

Use their own litigious bullshit against them. If every p2p client simply implemented a one-byte XOR on all outgoing and incoming transmissions, it would be quite illegal for the (RI || MP) AA to attempt to decode it because of that wonderful piece of legislation called the DMCA. Remember? Illegal to circumvent any acess control device? By implementing such a measure (even one so braindead that it could be cracked brute-force by a 20-year-old laptop in a matter of seconds), it is illegal for anyone to decode your transmissions without your express permission. I give express permission to everyone except scum would work for the (RI || MP) AA.

The best part is the horrible or wonderful (depending on your view) irony of it: Screwed by their own bought-and-paid-for legislation. Geeks the world over will roll on the floor laughing their asses off!

Re:My parents used to do this

[dustmite]

Uh, dude, he's 'retro-quoting' from ... hmm .. late 80s or early 90s. Notice the quotation marks. That's the sort of stuff we used to say ..

Re:Heh..

[yerfatma]

I'm the president of a huge club on campus

Are you bringing the Civil War set to chess club this week, or am I?

Re:Good idea but...

[HermanAB]

Yup, never underestimate the bandwidth of a minivan full of CDROMs...

Obligatory

[Have Blue]

Just whatever you do, don't cross the streams.

Not for $16

[Anonymous Coward]

No CD is worth that much money.

I buy from BMG Music Club, which has monthly sales, and if you buy during those sales, you get CD's for just under $7 each.

That's a decent deal, and I find I'm willing to buy 6-10 at a time for those prices.

But for $16, Brittany better give me a BJ and agree to not talk when I'm around.

Re:Heh..

[DebianRcksLindowsLie]

I have over 200 myself, and so do most of my friends. Come to think of it they're always broke, too....

StationRipper - Warning!

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, I've had nothing but trouble with this app! It keeps filling my harddrives up with music! Gigs and Gigs and, yes, Gigs! I keep having to buy new drives. :P

Re:Stop perpetuating this myth

[Anonymous Coward]

I have the solution for your problem. Instead of thinking of it a lousy CD quality, think of it as awesome tape quality.
Kids these days.

Re:Good idea but...

[TheOnlyCoolTim]

I get the idea that some of these things open up several streams at different times in the song so that they download faster than the music plays, which could be detected.

Tim

The funniest thing I've read in a long time

[Infonaut]

"depending on how you read the law, it's 100% legal"

Umm... ok. That's exactly the iron-clad legal guarantee I was looking for!

Re:How much of those royalties do the artists see?

[gunnmjk]

4-5 downloads?

Maybe it's because Apple doesn't write checks for less than 25 cents. lol

Re:Here is why I buy CD's

[Mignon]

My mom raised me on vinyl as a kid, so maybe I handle media a lot more carefully.

Hmm, interesting. I was breast-fed and tend to treat them pretty gently too.