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  • Adult films (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Black_Logic (79637) <wintermute.gmail@com> on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:04AM (#9150809) Homepage Journal
    This really isn't meant as flamebait. Pixar's movies are extremely cool looking but I really wish they'd make some movies that weren't oriented towards children. I recognize that there's a lot of content in them that is geared towards adults. Besides keeping the parents mildly entertained while their kids enjoy the movie I'm it also has to do with the reason pixar's movies do so well. But even so, why no adult content? THere's definitely this pervasive attitude that animation is the domain of children only in America. (I'm probably pegging myself as an anime nerd here. :) )

    And btw, by 'geared towards adults' I certainly don't mean sex and explosions, that doesn't hurt though if the plot is interesting and supports it.
    • Re:Adult films (Score:5, Insightful)

      by _PimpDaddy7_ (415866) on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:07AM (#9150843)
      No adult content? Go watch Pixar's movies again. They CLEARLY have written in content for adults in all of their movies. Pixar is obviosly gearing movies for mainstream, that involves children and adults. Why limit a movie to one crowd(adults or children)? The super success of Finding Nemo was BECAUSE it was aimed at children and adults.
      • Re:Adult films (Score:2, Interesting)

        by aborchers (471342)
        I wish I hadn't wasted all my mod points busting down FP trolls, because you've definitely earned a boost. Finding Nemo is one of the best films I've seen in recent years and I still see new things in it every time I watch it (which happens a lot because my two year old also loves it!)

        I'm no G-Rated wuss when it comes to film taste either. I'm a big fan of Quentin Tarantino, Sam Raimi, and pre-LOTR Peter Jackson, for example. Nonetheless, Pixar can make the kind of movies they want to make and I wish them
      • Re:Adult films (Score:3, Insightful)

        by 0123456 (636235)
        "The super success of Finding Nemo was BECAUSE it was aimed at children and adults."

        Actually, I'd say that 'Finding Nemo' was the least adult movie that Pixar have made. I've watched 'Toy Story 1/2' and 'Monsters Inc' numerous times, but have no great desire to see 'Finding Nemo' again.

        Maybe this is why they quit Disney, so their movies weren't dumbed down for kids.
        • Re:Adult films (Score:3, Insightful)

          by orcrist (16312)
          I'll just respond to you though this applies to a good number of the posts in the thread. I must be a mutant, since I seem to be the only one I know who found Monsters Inc. to be the *worst* movie Pixar has made so far. I am even a Billy Crystal fan, but the movie just felt too much like any other Billy Crystal movie, with a bunch of standard formulas for animated flicks.
          For me Monsters Inc was the most child-oriented (simplistic) of the bunch. That's not to say that Pixar's worst isn't still above
        • by bonch (38532) on Friday May 14, 2004 @03:31PM (#9155425)
          Finding Nemo was the most adult movie Pixar has made. The mother dies in a scary scene, and all the babies are eaten but one. I remember people gossiping about it online, wondering why they would have such a scary scene in a "kid's movie."

          The whole film is about parenthood. You seriously didn't get that? To a kid, it's a fun flick about colorful fish, but to an adult, it touches on adult emotions as well. I thought Finding Nemo was the most strangely tragic of all their films--the guy loses his wife, all his other kids, and has to raise one all by himsef, and he's freaked out about anything happening to him.

          Toy Story 2 touched on growing older and losing childhood. I mean, come on. Pixar's movies aren't really "geared" toward anybody. They just are what they are. An adult film doesn't mean it has guns, blood, or serious drama. It can just as well be a comedy with a bunch of CG animated fish and still be adult-enjoyable as ever. People who think otherwise are just embarrassed that they watch movies with CG animated fish and want to be cool.
        • Re:Adult films (Score:3, Insightful)

          by acroyear (5882)
          the disconnect with disney was solely for financial reasons.

          the deal with disney was kinda like a deal with a record company. disney provided seed cash, in return for "ownership" (technically speaking, exclusive monopoly rights in perpetuity; legal ownership remained in pixar's hands) of the films, plots, and characters for distribution and merchandising purposes. it also set a specific royalty rate for how much of the gross pixar would get (and that wasn't very high).

          worked fine when pixar didn't have
      • Re:Adult films (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Black_Logic (79637)
        Admittedly, I haven't seen Finding Nemo. I understand what you're saying, as I said in my previous post, I recognize that they've got some really talented writers working for them. Clearly we're getting into a subjective debate here, but I'd really like to see a completely CG movie geared towards adults. For instance, a whole lot of sci-fi storys could be done extremely well in this medium. A lot people complain about the special effects in movies because they're not real enough. Nobody has ever complained
        • did you miss shrek? If so watch it...I still hesitate to let my kids watch it.
        • Re:Adult films (Score:3, Informative)

          by NTmatter (589153)

          It's not a movie, but a show geared towards adult audiences. Tripping the Rift [scifi.com] is CG featuring adult-oriented content. No actual sex or nudity so far, but lots of adult humour. A few choice quotes from the show would be:

          "Just once when I moan 'Oh God...Oh, God!', I really want to mean it."

          "Well, you know what they say: You can lead a horse to water, but you can't get over how big its genitals are."

          "How'd you like to take a free ride on a girl with four gams and no gag reflex?"

          It's coming to a televi

        • I hear you. Hey I would love it too!!! BUT, these movies take a LOT of time to make so that has to be taken into account. Maybe as Pixar grows they will add more staff and can eventually create an adult-only film.
      • by gosand (234100) on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:50AM (#9151385)
        No adult content? Go watch Pixar's movies again. They CLEARLY have written in content for adults in all of their movies. Pixar is obviosly gearing movies for mainstream, that involves children and adults. Why limit a movie to one crowd(adults or children)? The super success of Finding Nemo was BECAUSE it was aimed at children and adults.

        I think you hit the nail on the head - but not how you intended. I love Pixar's movies, but they are clearly written for kids. Like you said, they WRITE IN CONTENT FOR ADULTS. I agree with the parent poster, that I would like to see a movie from Pixar where the adult content wasn't an afterthought. Think "Spirited Away". It is appropriate for adults and kids, but doesn't feel like a kids movie with a few jokes thrown in for the parents. Finding Nemo was good, but it was still a kids movie.

        Sure, they are a kickass animation studio, but let's not forget that they make movies to MAKE MONEY. Where is the money? Product tie-ins. Granted, if the movie tanks their products sit on the shelves, so they do have to make a decent movie first. This has been the MO for kids moviemakers for quite a while now. It has been very obvious for a long time and is starting to become pathetic (Cat in the Hat anyone?). But parents lap it up. There is already Shrek 2 merchandise on the market.

        Hey, that is the movie business, not much room for integrity.

        • by Robotech_Master (14247) * on Friday May 14, 2004 @11:26AM (#9151821) Homepage Journal
          Uhm...Miyazaki-san himself has said that he wrote Spirited Away for 12-year-old girls. You're confusing the cultural disconnect with audience. Granted, Japanese animated films in general tend to have a higher degree of maturity than American ones do...but that doesn't mean they're for an older audience.

          And even if that weren't the case, Miyazaki has made quite a few movies "written for kids" himself. For instance, look at My Neighbor Totoro or Panda, Go Panda. Enjoyable by adults (just as Pixar's films are), but clearly aimed right squarely at the little kid market.
          • Uhm...Miyazaki-san himself has said that he wrote Spirited Away for 12-year-old girls. You're confusing the cultural disconnect with audience. Granted, Japanese animated films in general tend to have a higher degree of maturity than American ones do...but that doesn't mean they're for an older audience.

            Hmm. Didn't know that. Interesting though, how a movie written for a 12-year old girl in another country can seem so mature, while movies written for 12-year-olds in the US seem vapid and utterly childish

            • Interesting though, how a movie written for a 12-year old girl in another country can seem so mature, while movies written for 12-year-olds in the US seem vapid and utterly childish.

              It's not the audience; it's the director. Try picking a few fansubbed anime at random and watching a few episodes. You'll find that what they pump out in Japan is every bit as worthless as American children's shows/movies. Spirited Away was a great movie because a brilliant man created it, not because it was released in Jap

        • by meringuoid (568297) on Friday May 14, 2004 @11:27AM (#9151829)
          Think "Spirited Away". It is appropriate for adults and kids, but doesn't feel like a kids movie with a few jokes thrown in for the parents.

          Pixar are a Western firm, and have to live with the Western idea that all animation is for children. Ghibli are Japanese, and things work differently there.

          But Pixar's kids' films bring parents into the cinema too. And they see that the films are in fact good, despite being 'for children'. And then the next time a Pixar film comes out those parents use the children as an excuse to go and see it. Pretty good business for Pixar, eh?

          I remember seeing the start of A Bug's Life, watching this film for a while and then sitting up with a jolt because I realised that I was in fact watching Seven Samurai. Blimey.

          Spirited Away you mention as an example, but I think it's more of a child's film than, say, Mononoke or Nausicaa. It reminds me of the books Through the Looking-glass or The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe - certainly intended for children, but not limiting itself to what is normally supposed to be 'childish'.

      • Re:Adult films (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Belgand (14099)
        Frankly Finding Nemo seemed so vapidly childish to me that I could be bothered to see it. A fish travels to find his missing son. *Yawn* I'm sure it might have had some adult-oriented content, but honestly most of what I saw in previews and such didn't really inspire me to have any interest that it would be much beyond the formulaic nature of such an enterprise.

        One of the very, very few films that was successfully aimed at children and adults equally in my mind was The Princess Bride. Neither talking down
    • Re:Adult films (Score:2, Interesting)

      by XMyth (266414)
      Mmmmmmm Pixar Porn......

      But seriously, I think this is a good idea. Anime nerd or not (the only anime I like is Ronin Warriors, do I count?) a adult-oriented *good* cg movie would probably do good.

      And no, Final Fantasy doesn't count because the story line was just plain boring. FF is good at gameplay not stories.

      Maybe we could petition Pixar?
      • Re:Adult films (Score:3, Insightful)

        by FortKnox (169099)
        Like TitanAE? Animated movies for adults ONLY appeal to the anime geek, and its not enough business to recoup the costs of making it. The only way to make a profit is to make a kids movie with adult jokes and stuff to appeal to the parents. Pixar knows this formula, and uses it perfectly.
    • Re:Adult films (Score:3, Interesting)

      by bentini (161979)
      Because of the Final Fantasy CG movie.
      • "Because of the Final Fantasy CG movie."

        Yeah, but the main problem with that movie was that there weren't enough nude scenes (i.e. none)... they could probably recoup the money they lost by releasing a 'Final Fantasy XXX' movie :).
    • I've always found plenty of humor that would fly over the heads of children in Pixar's movies. The setting may be in a children's world, but the humor has always appealed to a very broad audience. I imagine that's why they do so well ... their art is suited to both children AND adults.
    • I'd say that one of the things that all Pixar productions have in common that they can be truly enjoyable to both adults and children. Okay, maybe the plot is no Memento. But still, the characters are funny in a mature way. I bet even a lot of adults don't know the reason Dora has such a bad memory is that fish are believed to have 4 second memory span.
    • Re:Adult films (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Deusy (455433)
      This really isn't meant as flamebait. Pixar's movies are extremely cool looking but I really wish they'd make some movies that weren't oriented towards children.

      You evidently didn't see the Final Fantasy movie, to see how hard it is to produce a good adult oriented CG film.

      CG is still cartoony. How many adult cartoons do you know of? Viz?
    • Re:Adult films (Score:4, Informative)

      by Lumpy (12016) on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:31AM (#9151139) Homepage
      And btw, by 'geared towards adults' I certainly don't mean sex and explosions, that doesn't hurt though if the plot is interesting and supports it.

      I have two words that would make them GOBS of fricking cash....

      Heavy Metal

      the first teaser of Titan AE looked as if it was going to be in the style of Heavy Metal and I was fricking GEEKED but it tanked out to be a kiddie movie.

      If Pixar were to have the guts to make a R rated Heavy Metal style film they would absolutely clean up.
    • after my daughter watches toy story 2 for about the 5th time the week I still find it funny. To me the only thing non-adult is the fact that it's animated. Even is that is arguable as far as kid vs. adult in animation.
    • Re:Adult films (Score:3, Insightful)

      by nikster (462799)
      Pixar movies are always not only amazing miracles of technology (though that is a great excuse for geeks to see each and every one of them), the always also have a great storyline behind that as well.
      And the storyline is what sets them apart, release after release.

      And i am a huge anime fan myself - it's fun that there is blood and gore (impossible not to mention tentacle rape) etc and a lot of them are art in their own right.

      But Pixar has a great story, every time, and then the story is well told. Despit


    • > But even so, why no adult content?

      I think it's 99% due to the personalities *behind* the movies. Have you ever watched the behind-the-scenes stuff on Pixar dvd's or listened to the commentary? Pixar's core is John Lasseter, Andrew Stanton, and a couple of other guys, and they've been the driving force behind each and every Pixar movie. It's not like 20th Century Fox where they'll put out 50 movies a year and each one is directed by someone different. Pixar's library is entirely representative of a ti
    • One of the great things about the Pixar films is their extraordinary reach. They talk to BOTH children and adults - different depth - something for the kids all the time but in the background are stories that resonate with adulthood.

      Pixar understands how to write, how to make wonderful artistic settings, and how to blend those two together.

      I wonder if the folks who find Pixar films the most unsettling might be adolescents who are disturbed by the simultaneous response of both child and adult within thems
  • Hooray! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by alexatrit (689331) on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:06AM (#9150834) Homepage
    The previews make the movie out to be rather humourous. Samuel L. Jackon screaming "WHERE is my SUPER-SUIT, woman?!?" It'll make millions off that line alone, nevermind the killer renderings.
  • i-tunes (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Walker2323 (670050) on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:07AM (#9150856)
    What's with the mandatory i-tunes requirement to see the large screen? Very annoying for those of us that don't want yet another multimedia viewer clogging the machine. Isn't Quicktime good enough?
    • Just download the large trailer and then use the present movie feature.

      This is much easier and the screen doesn't do all sorts of automatic funny resolution switching once the trailer is over either.

      The iTunes requirement is due to the fact the audio is in protected lossless AAC in the full screen trailer. Not sure if this was a ploy or a way to get the file size down.
      • I noticed that when I choose the full screen and iTunes open my screen went blank and stayed blank. I couldn't get out of it. Had to force a reboot. Seemed to be some kind of bug for my setup.
    • by SuperBanana (662181) on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:43AM (#9151279)
      What's with the mandatory i-tunes requirement to see the large screen?

      Apple finally figured out "full screen" wasn't enough to get people to buy Quicktime Pro. However, it will probably be more successful at getting users to install iTunes, update to the latest version, or open it if they've never opened it before.

      It is pretty stupid, but in a twisted way makes sense from a marketing standpoint.

  • by AtariAmarok (451306) on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:09AM (#9150874)
    Looking forward to this one, with the underrated Craig T. Nelson providing voice talent for one of the main characters.
  • Torrent (Score:4, Informative)

    by AIX-Hood (682681) on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:13AM (#9150920)
    Don't know if people care since Apple is fast, but here's a torrent: http://www.filerush.com/torrents/the_incredibles-t lr_m480.mov.torrent [filerush.com]
  • iTunes (Score:2, Troll)

    by Sabalon (1684)
    Okay...why the hell is iTunes required to watch a video now? Must be taking a page from the MS tie-in book.
    • its not. This confused me as well. But I was able to open and play the "incredisize" video from the offical site just fine with no iTunes installed on my machine.
    • iTunes is only required if you want to take advantage of the largest (fullscreen) size. You can still open up the others in your browser.
      • That would be the requirement I'm talking about. Wasn't that way before...used to be they'd all open up just fine with quicktime, just some were embedded, some weren't.
  • Tech? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by KaiserZoze_860 (714450) on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:16AM (#9150957) Homepage
    Aside from the fact that this looks like it'd be just as funny as Toy Story, Finding Nemo, etc... What are they running for web services - seriously?

    The 2 trailers loaded extremely fast (on the main site) and the Flash loaded faster than I could click "Skip Intro." Over all, a very well made site.

    Disney without Pixar is going to be like Apple without Steve Jobs... Oh, wait...
  • Stock position (Score:2, Interesting)

    by GPLDAN (732269)
    I don't care if they make films for kids, films for teens, films for old age home dwellers. I got in to Pixar in the summer of 2003 at $53/share. The rumors were already flying that trouble with Disney was brewing, but I thought they'd mend ways for a larger percentage. Instead, that bonehead Eisner cut them loose. He also cut Michael Moore's new film loose, even though that will also do huge business. Never let politics interfere with business, what a shmuck.

    I just want these films to come out and be bi
  • by Minwee (522556) <dcr@neverwhen.org> on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:18AM (#9150973) Homepage
    Apparently, this movie was released three days ago.

    Why are we just hearing about it now?
  • hold still (Score:2, Funny)

    by ejort79 (654456)
    ok ok already, I'm holding still
  • by slappyjack (196918) <slappyjack@gmail.com> on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:24AM (#9151052) Homepage Journal
    ...about this mediu is that Pixar isn't simply a digital rendering company.

    They're a MOVIE company. The reason their stuff is so well loved by the general populace is that they're first and foremost moviemakers. All of the stuff Ive seen from them so far is incredibly well written. That goes for not only their features but their shorts, too. Even the ones with no dialog in them.

    The fact that they take these scripts and make them happen in a totally rendered environment is more than a creative choice than anything else. The script HAS to be good, and dead on, and not have a lot of slop, because the rendering proces is so time consuming and expensive (for now.) The medium in a sense culls out the shit material, because no matter how much you polish up a peice of shit, it's still going to be shit.

    Films like Toy Story and Monsters Inc. COULD have been made in the traditional way, with actors and such, but by doing the whole thing as animation they get away from moments in the film where the audience would mentally break off with the thought "Holy Fuck, that's a coolass special effect."

    IMHO, The fact that these are marketed and skewed towards a younger audience is mainly because, as a culture, the US isn't ready to accept animated ANYTHING as a serious medium for carying adult themes. If Pixar was a Japanese company, half the stuff they made probably wouldnt be viewable by children. Take Cowboy Bebop as an example. Anime, purely cartoon, but NOT for kids. I wont even go into things like Ghost in the Shell. This cultural disconnect in the States is why you see things like a row full of nine year olds sitting in a theater watching Terrance and Phillip sing songs about how the other likes to anally rape his uncle.

    • "This cultural disconnect in the States is why you see things like a row full of nine year olds sitting in a theater watching Terrance and Phillip sing songs about how the other likes to anally rape his uncle."

      Now, now. They only sang about how they like to "fuck" their uncles. Rape isn't mentioned at all in the song. How do you know the uncles in question haven't consented? =o)

    • Um, its more than that. Animated movies are different from live action movies in that nothing is real to begin with, so doing rediculous things is much more easily accepted. If toy story had been live action, and the toy soldiers were live action actors, for example, it would have been dumb. Same with the rest of their movies, none of them would have "worked".

      And yeah. They are a movie company. They make brilliant movies with great writing and characters. But also great is the character animation.

      The char
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:26AM (#9151086)
    I don't really want to see a movie about a guy who used to be great but got fat and old...
  • by Sabalon (1684) on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:35AM (#9151193)
    I saw the teaser trailing a while ago on the Finding Nemo DVD. Looks hilarious - superhero coming out of retirement.

    However this new trailer makes the movie look completely different - a superhero team all very much in the now.

    Either way,it's PIXAR so I'll be seeing it and when the kids get the DVD, I'll be seeing it again and again. About the only thing that may make this different is the characters are people as opposed to talking animals and toys etc...
    • The plot summary on IMDB sounds more like that indicated by the teaser. The trailer must be showing just scenes either recalling the old days or after the team has gotten their steam again. Maybe both, hence the red suit/blue suit differences?
  • by SilentChris (452960) on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:38AM (#9151215) Homepage
    I looked at the trailer than read through the comments before I got here, and was surprised to see a +5 saying Pixar only writes for children. Did he even watch the trailer?

    This movie is for the Adult Swim crowd. It's got nothing "adult" in it (sex, violence -- well, there's explosions), but not every show on Adult Swim does either. It's the writing. Are children going to laugh at a character yelling "Where is my super suit, woman?!?" Probably not. But I laughed out loud more than a few times watching it.

    Disney braves a thin line between children and adult entertainment (except for their refusal to distribute Michael Moore's latest movie, which is just dumb). Some stuff bridges the line rather admirably (like the Muppets, which they more or less acquired). Ditto on ABC after hours. A Bug's Life, though? Very little for adults to laugh at. Children will laugh at The Incredibles, but I have a feeling adults will get the most out of it.
  • Superhero Interview (Score:3, Interesting)

    by SamSpectre (412989) <<moc.setyboreh> <ta> <ertcepsmas>> on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:41AM (#9151262) Homepage Journal
    The superhero interview 'bit' in the trailer looked like it was lifted straight from the The Tick animated series. *tap, tap, tap--is this thing on?* Now Pixar doing a Tick movie, THAT would be Great!
  • When the Incredibles teaser [apple.com] came out, I got eerie over the music in it. Why? Because I felt like they ripped off the music from somewhere else... Guess what? It's from the James Bond Tomorrow Never Dies Soundtrack [amazon.com]. The "cool" song that play in this trailer is Backseat Driver (David Arnold featuring the Propellerheads) [allofmp3.com] from Tomorrow Never Dies. I have no idea why they're recycling soundtracks. Maybe that's a starting trend...
  • Oooh! OOOH! (Score:3, Funny)

    by Hot Soup LD (324328) on Friday May 14, 2004 @10:54AM (#9151431) Homepage
    Quick! Log on to City of Heroes and reserve their names! I already got xxMr.Inviinciibaalxx! OMFG!
  • Direct Download (Score:3, Informative)

    by kajoob (62237) on Friday May 14, 2004 @11:03AM (#9151510)
    Here is a direct link to the large trailer [akamai.net]. Just right click, save as.

    I don't have itunes so I couldn't get the fullscreen version, someone wanna post that (if it's even possible - fairplay maybe)?
  • by Ingolfke (515826) on Friday May 14, 2004 @11:18AM (#9151695) Journal
    Advertisements posing as Slashdot articles. What's next "Proctor and Gamble release new soap with digital readout in hopes to targetting the unwashed masses."
  • by tbmaddux (145207) * on Friday May 14, 2004 @11:28AM (#9151833) Homepage Journal
    I was pleasantly surprised to hear "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" from decksanddrumsandrockandroll, playing in the background of the trailer. This album also has "Take California," used in an iPod commercial, "History Repeating," used in "Something About Mary," and "Spybreak," used of course in the lobby shooting spree of "The Matrix."
  • by Bonewalker (631203) on Friday May 14, 2004 @12:03PM (#9152303)
    Any studio who uses Cliff in every single one of their movies, and produces multi-billion dollar hits out of those movies, must sure as hell know what they are doing.

    Can you spot Cliff in every feature-length Pixar movie?

    Well you see, Norm, it's like this...A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Now, as we know, excessive intake of alcohol kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. And that, Norm, is why you always feel smarter after a few beers.

    • Re:Cliff Claven (Score:3, Informative)

      by RatBastard (949)
      • A Bug's Life - P.T. Flea
      • Toy Story / Toy Story 2 - Hamm
      • Finding Nemo - School of silvery fish
      • Monster's Inc. - Yeti (Want a snow cone?)
      That's all I can remember.
  • by georgewilliamherbert (211790) on Friday May 14, 2004 @01:11PM (#9153275)
    Some months ago, my wife and I were randomly lucky enough to catch a free invite to a test screening of The Incredibles.

    Disclaimer:
    A lot of the CGI work was half done (and parts of the movie were storyboards), so I haven't seen the whole finished thing. So I am not sure how those parts finished up.

    All of that said...

    The pacing even of the half done version was excellent. The plot held together, the characters were thought out and had depth, they developed throughout the film. Pixar knows how to make movies; it's quite something to be watching a scene that's half storyboards still and still feel it's gripping.

    This movie is aimed at both adults and kids. There are child characters, who help save the day, but the adults character development is the main theme of the film in my opinion.

    I liked. I expect the finished product is going to entirely live up to the promise of the half done version I saw.

  • by mblase (200735) on Friday May 14, 2004 @04:06PM (#9155958)
    The trailer begins: "From the makers of 'Toy Story', 'Monsters, Inc.', and 'Finding Nemo'". It's like everybody forgot that "A Bug's Life" was released in there somewhere and made Pixar a ton of money as well. Yeah, I know it wasn't the success it could have been because "Antz" was released a month before, but still... surely Pixar believes they deserve some credit for it?

    I dunno, maybe the fact that it's the only Pixar movie where the villain dies at the end is working against them, or something. I still think it's as good as any of Pixar's other outings, even if they don't.

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