SBC CWA Strike Imminent 572
Tmack writes "SBC union workers are preparing (again) to strike after negotiations have broken down between CWA and SBC. What this means to the average person? As long as the strike is taking place, orders for new service and repair of existing services with SBC will be delayed as only non-union workers and temps will be around to complete the work. Latest word is the strike is now planned for Friday night through next Tuesday. Check here(1),
here(2), and here(3)
for more info."
Re:Who? What? (Score:2, Informative)
I'm a SBC manager, and I've already been notifed to transport to my strike location, so I guess I'll be fixed your DSL as of Friday.
Re:Who? What? (Score:4, Informative)
CWA = Communications Workers of America, big union including all your telco repair folks.
Re:Uhh (Score:2, Informative)
CWA: Communications Workers of America: a labor union.
SBC: Southwestern Bell Corporation (nee Pacific Bell): an evil, money-grubbing RBOC/ILEC :-).
Schwab
Re:What's SBC? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Who? What? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Who? What? (Score:2, Informative)
Southern would be BellSouth
Re:Who? What? (Score:4, Informative)
I'll freely admit I gave up on tracking the buyouts and mergers, but that seems to be the layout of the local carriers in the US. SBC is a biggie, at least by geography.
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Evan
Re:Gotta love the unions (Score:5, Informative)
They're saying:
"We want a raise. If you don't give us a raise, NO ONE will come to work."
Its totally legit, and you can do it at your job legally as well. However, at your job, unless you can:
a) Convince no one else to show up if you don't get what you want/get fired.
b) Convince any potential replacements that they'll get a better paycheck if they join your strike.
Then management will laugh at you.
Unions are a method of using the collective legal power of the workers (the threat of withholding labor) to counterbalance the economic power of the corporation (the threat of withholding a job/paycheck from a single worker).
Re:Who? What? (Score:2, Informative)
SBC: Southwestern Bell Company(?)
Taken from: http://www.sbc.com/gen/press-room?pid=5074
In 1999, SBC Communications Inc., introduced the SBC brand to its customers with the SBC Global Network tag line. And last year, the company took the big step of adding SBC, in a dominant way, to its regional brand names.
The time is now right for the company to move to a single national brand -- SBC. The brand change gives SBC a more unified presence throughout its markets, making it easier for customers to find and do business with SBC companies across geographic boundaries and product lines. The move to a single national brand also unifies offerings previously marketed through regional brands such as SBC Southwestern Bell, SBC Pacific Bell, SBC Nevada Bell and SBC Ameritech.
The brand change underscores SBC's evolution from a regional company into the nation's premier source for communications services.
Re:So what? (Score:5, Informative)
It's news because it affects a good chunk of the IT industry. Basically, if the CWA goes on strike, SBC's ability to resolve field-wiring issues will suddenly be reduced to management employees who aren't represented by the union. This means any line noise or wire failure issue that happens on local phone line loops within their territory will take much longer than usual to be resolved... leading to potential longer-than-usual disruptions to communication services that rely on local copper loops.
Re:A little locale (Score:4, Informative)
See, now you see why this is newsworthy. Even if you're not over there, if you depend on reaching something or someone over there, you're a bit nervous because if for any reason a phone line were to go down, a strike would make it take longer to bring back up.
Re:Say what you will... (Score:1, Informative)
Re:What's SBC? (Score:2, Informative)
They started as SBC (Southwestern Bell Company) in Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kansas and Missouri, then started buying other Baby Bells. They bought SNET (Connecticut), Ameritech (Illinois, Wisconson, Michigan, Indiana and Ohio) and recently PacBell/Nevada Bell (California and Nevada).
Verizon covers most of the rest of the New England states and also Kentuky, West Virginia and Virginia.
BellSouth covers the US South, with North & South Carolina, Tennessee, Louisana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and Florida.
Qwest (formerly USWest) covers the US West and Northwest, Washington, Oregon, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, North & South Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa and Minnesota.
There's a few other Local Exchange Carriers around, but they're generally minor, and Verizon has some odd-ball areas in Southern California, Florida and a couple other places that used to be GTE areas.
The union position, press release and game (Score:5, Informative)
The Communications Workers of America (CWA) [cwa-union.org] has issued a press release, Communications Workers Set Strike at SBC Involving 100,000 Workers at Midnight Tomorrow [cwa-union.org]:
The CWA also offers a See-n-Say with CWA Game [cwa-union.org].
Re:Who? What? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Story published to encourage union bashing (Score:1, Informative)
What this is REALLY about... (Score:1, Informative)
1) They are being outsourced by the next gen techno wonks (IP, VoIP, DSL, vs TDM DS0, etc)
2) SBC won't give them iron clad guarntees that they will have a job over the next 5 years, doing what they have been doing for the last 20...
3) Thier only legitimate bitch, I think, is that they arn't being offered a choice to train up to support the next gen stuff... That would be very cool, and we are doing that with the old telco guys at the CLEC I work at, they are all learning IP routing, Internet and VoIP at this very minute, so they won't be obsolete when everyone starts ordering SIP truncks instead or PRIs for their PBXs!
FYI, SBC = Southwestern Bell Company, the evil empire that purchased pac-bell and ameritech to control a very large portion of the local copper in the south and western United States.
This strike will affect not only Bell customers, but also all the CLECs that rely on reselling SBC infrastructure (like DSL, T1s, PRIs, etc)... Those orders will not be fullfilled, costing not only SBC money, but also all the CLECs and ISPs that rely on them. Which is why, IMHO, it is big deal.
Re:So what? (Score:2, Informative)
This is like America On-Line becoming "just" AOL to make it more international, and Kentucky Fried Chicken becoming "just" KFC to de-emphasize the fried part (or, if you are inclined to believe such things, because what they serve is not really chicken [snopes.com].
For a while, they kept regional names whenever they bought out a phone company, but they've dropped those too now. So when they bought Pacific Bell, they kept it as "SBC Pacific Bell." Now it's all just "SBC." This will be familiar to anyone who paid attention when they changed PacBell Park in San Francisco to SBC Park.
Re:A little locale (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Who? What? (Score:2, Informative)
Well, SBC/SWBell has been the local phone provider in my area since I was born, so I should know this...
SBC used to be Southwestern Bell, up until 1998, when they officially shortened their name to just SBC--technically, it doesn't stand for anything now, but it sounds like it's supposed to be from Southwestern Bell Corporation. It wasn't even a common nickname for the company...they were usually called SWBell or SWB until the name change.
The name change came not long after they bought Pacific Bell, Ameritech, and Southern New England Telecommunications (actually, I didn't know this part until I looked it up on Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]).
Re:Convenient Timing, that... (Score:5, Informative)
Therefore, SBC will not be aquiring much help in getting local loops fixed... the only local loop AT&T Wireless is concerned with is cell towers. Cingular and AT&T Wireless operate on the same technologies, so they'll have no compatiblity issues taking on the existing AT&T Wireless customers onto the Cingular networks. They basically want AT&T Wireless so that Cingular can mark off any where AT&T has set up a GSM tower up as already done on their GSM conversion effort.
Still, the union's timing in light of a merger close is exactly what they're swinging for. Cheapen the company as the merge closes, and SBC is out money if they cave, and out money if they don't cave. Sad when a business deal heads into mutually destructive territory...
Re:opinion of SBC from a retiree (Score:2, Informative)
SBC is talking about raising the copays on insurance to double our triple what they are now. It's also talking about cutting phone concessions (discounts) all together for retirees..and possibly current employees. That's a lot of extra cost to add to anybody's monthly bills...but moreso to a retired person who isn't getting any raises anytime soon.
The other half is the outsourcing of new jobs. New technology areas such as DSL and WiFi aren't being opened to the current technical and phone support staff. They're all being outsourced to contractors...and for phone support...India. So the CWA is pushing to open those areas...and reduce the cutting of current employees.
You can see more details at CWA's web site [cwa-union.org].
Re:Who? What? (Score:3, Informative)
Some of the union gripes are that SBC is outsourcing jobs instead of giving the jobs in new areas to union employees, so the union wants some job guarantees. Another union gripe is that they currently pay 4-7% in copays (no premiums) for health insurance, and SBC wants to raise it to 7-11%.
SBC is also using this as a stick to beat the feds with, because they claim that they have to support the CLEC's by leasing them their lines at less than it costs to maintain them, so if the feds give them some pricing relief, they will reciprocate with the unions.
As a customer of both CLEC's and SBC, I hope SBC loses on the feds front. The service I get from the CLEC is vastly superior to SBC's service, even when the CLEC leases the line from SBC. Presumably, it is because with SBC, we're small fish, big pond, whereas with the CLEC, we're big fish, small pond, though I think SBC's problems are systemic.
Re:Who? What? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:This will have a stronger impact than you think (Score:3, Informative)
Tm
Unions are more than just workers getting together (Score:5, Informative)
The following list of special privileges reveals the extent to which union bosses have rigged our nation's labor laws in their favor.
Privilege #1: Exemption from prosecution for union violence.
The most egregious example of organized labor's special privileges and immunities is the 1973 United States v. Enmons decision. In it, the United States Supreme Court held that union violence is exempted from the Hobbs Act, which makes it a federal crime to obstruct interstate commerce by robbery or extortion. As a result, thousands of incidents of violent assaults (directed mostly against workers) by union militants have gone unpunished. Meanwhile, many states also restrict the authority of law enforcement to enforce laws during strikes.
Privilege #2: Exemption from anti-monopoly laws.
The Clayton Act of 1914 exempts unions from anti-monopoly laws, enabling union officials to forcibly drive out independent or alternative employee bargaining groups.
Privilege #3: Power to force employees to accept unwanted union representation.
Monopoly bargaining, or "exclusive representation," which is embedded in most of the country's labor relations statutes, enables union officials to act as the exclusive bargaining agents of all employees at a unionized workplace, thereby depriving employees of the right to make their own employment contracts. For example, the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA) of 1935, the Federal Labor Relations Act (FLRA) of 1978, and the Railway Labor Act (RLA) of 1926 prohibit employees from negotiating their own contracts with their employers or choosing their own workplace representatives.
Privilege #4: Power to collect forced union dues.
Unlike other private organizations, unions can compel individuals to support them financially. In 28 states under the NLRA (those that have not passed Right to Work laws), all states under the RLA, on "exclusive federal enclaves," and in many states under public sector labor relations acts, employees may be forced to pay union dues as a condition of employment, even if they reject union affiliation.
Privilege #5: Unlimited, undisclosed electioneering.
The Federal Election Campaign Act exempts unions from its limits on campaign contributions and expenditures, as well as some of its reporting requirements. Union bigwigs can spend unlimited amounts on communications to members and their families in support of, or opposition to, candidates for federal office, and they need not report these expenditures if they successfully claim that union publications are primarily devoted to other subjects. For years, the politically active National Education Association (NEA) teacher union has gotten away with claiming zero political expenditures on its IRS tax forms!
Privilege #6: Ability to strong-arm employers into negotiations.
Unlike all other parties in the economic marketplace, union officials can compel employers to bargain with them. The NLRA, FLRA, and RLA make it illegal for employers to resist a union's collective bargaining efforts and difficult for them to counter aggressive and deceptive campaigns waged by union organizers.
Privilege #7: Right to trespass on an employer's private property.
The Norris-LaGuardia Act of 1932 (and state anti-injunction acts) give union activists immunity from injunctions against trespass on an employer's property.
Privilege #8: Ability of strikers to keep jobs despite refusing to work.
Unlike other employees, unionized employees in the private sector have the right to strike; that is, to refuse to work while keeping their job. In some
Re:NOT DirecTV (Score:1, Informative)
This article will explain it:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content
For more information (and where I found this link), try this Google search:
http://news.google.com/news?q=sbc%20dire
FYI: Rupert Murdoch (Fox, News Corp.) owns DirecTV.
Could the service get any worse? (Score:3, Informative)