InfoWorld 2004 Salary Survey Results

tverbeek writes "InfoWorld has released the results of their Salary Survey for 2004 [pdf], and in the intro they declare that there's less bad news and more optimism, as IT budgets and salaries in particular are starting to creep back up. So now we get to witness the curious phenomenon of Lake Anti-Wobegone, as all the techies we hear from complain that their salaries are still below 'average'."

Listing?

[Mz6]

Is there a listing of the companies that they talked to? This way I can make my map of where to grab their job applications from.

put on your slashdotting helmet, gentlemen

[HungWeiLo]

A 3.4MB PDF file? On Slashdot? Do you not like them or something?

Dilbert

[Anonymous Coward]

Somewhat relevant is today's dilbert [dilbert.com]

Back in my day

[Anonymous Coward]

Back in my day, we didn't get raises. We got dirt. And we liked it. Dirt allowed us to build dirt houses, dirt garages, and make dirt pies. We could even get the horses to run on dirt. The damn hard thing was getting those gosh derned horseless carriages to run on dirt. They aaaalways gave us problems.

So you young ones should be glad you get money. Cause you never know when they'll pay in dirt again!

Re:Back in my day

[keoghp]

You were lucky.
We used to live in a shoebox....

Don't you just love Monty Pyhon. It it made it a programming language.

Or... you can go to Iraq and make $500-$1000/day

[Anonymous Coward]

tax free, last I heard. And they'll add the label "Contractor" or "Consultant" for free.

I ain't complainin'...

[Bravo_Two_Zero]

I was only out of work for 8 weeks, but that was enough for me. I ain't complainin' about my salary any more. No, really. I haven't yet. I've complained about other salaries being too low and some being too high. But mine's just right!

Now, I will complain about a lack of focus, nonexistent project management, unreasonable expectations and unclear goals. Heck, I'll complain about that all day long.

I'm always underpaid

[8400_RPM]

I hate looking at these things. They always show I'm underpaid.

Re:Sysadmin?

[Anonymous Coward]

Unix Sysadmin falls somewhere between janitor and shaman. As long as they continue to shove the ocassional pizza under your door, you ARE being justly compensated... on average.

"It's a nasty job, but somebody said I had to do it."

Re:Cry me a river

[scrod98]

True story:

Actually saw two girls change their major from Computer Science after the first test in calculus. They switched to a major that had no math: Drama.

I'll bet mom and dad were proud.

Re:Who is complaining?

[Anonymous Coward]

First off, who is going to complain because they are making too much? Sometimes the minority is much more vocal than the majority *cough* christian fundamentalists *cough*. It is human nature to complain.

let's review your post, shall we?

I guess you can't count since you write "first off," when you only attempt to make one point in your whole post. If you even had a point to argue, that is. Don't you think "who is going to complain" and "it is human nature to complain" (in other words, the topic of your post) are just a teeny bit contradictory? Finally, I like how you threw in some gratuitous Christian-bashing for good measure. All in all, a fantastic post.

I guess nobody cares about making coherent conversation anymore, judging by the complete shit from thousands of posters that regularly gets upmodded to +4 or +5. I guess that's what the foelist is for...

Its "Living Wage"

[Baldrson]

So now we get to witness the curious phenomenon of Lake Anti-Wobegone, as all the techies we hear from complain that their salaries are still below 'average'."

You misspelled 'living wage'.

Re:Cry me a river

[stinkyfingers]

There were two Computer Science girls that graduated when I did.

Didn't know them, but I think I spotted at least one of them in a movie storming Gondor.

Re:Things *have* been good...

[JJahn]

Wow, good thing you got all of that "work" stuff done so you can hang around /. all day again.

Re:Yeah, I was thinking the same thing...

[chaoticset]

Christian Fundamentalists are about the most quiet, reserved, introspective people the world has ever known.

It's always good to get a nice, impartial opinion.

Oh, wait...

Re:More power to you.

[Lord_Dweomer]

The creators of Office Space called, they want their ending back.

Re:Who is complaining?

[Anonymous Coward]

Sometimes the minority is much more vocal than the majority *cough* christian fundamentalists *cough*.

Can I play too?

*cough* NYT *cough*
*cough* WaPo *cough*
*cough* LAT *cough*
*cough* Ted Kennedy *cough*
*cough* Nancy Pelosi *cough*
*cough* environmentalist nutcases *cough*
*cough* Palestinians *cough*
*cough* abu ghraid rabble rousers *cough*
*cough* democrats, liberals *cough*
*cough* slashdot reactionary CBBTRTFA (Can't Be Bothered To...) idiots *cough*

This is fun, I could do this all day!

(Score:-5, Conservative)

Re:More power to you.

[JerkBoB]

crawling through fiberglass insulation looking for where a squirrel chewed through an burgular alarm wire

Did you find the furry motherfucker? That at least makes it a little more satisfying, to know that the bugger fried while performing the sabotage. :)

Probably not, though, with alarm wire. Not high enough voltage... Oh, well.