Moore Approves Fahrenheit 9/11 Downloads

13.7BillionYears writes "The Sunday Herald reports that Michael Moore has expressed his approval of Fahrenheit 9/11 being downloaded through networks like BitTorrent and eDonkey2000. He also champions a very Lessig-esque outlook in his reasoning. Quentin Tarantino's earlier support for such practices is also mentioned. Meanwhile, Lion's Gate says it has no plans to oppose the practice."

Re:Not surprising...

[eddy]

Please, go there, watch it. Give it a chance.

I'll download it as soon as there's something better than a CAM out there :-)

Re:Torrent

[fenix down]

http://www.google.com/search?&q=Fahrenheit+9%2F11+ torrent&btnI=I%27m+Feeling+Lucky
Just one fucking click, man. How fucking lazy are you? [google.com]

Stan's mom and I agree

[teamhasnoi]

What What What?

Wow. I've thought that I would give away my record (when it's done) to those who would want to download it, but frankly, I never thought that I'd see a comment like that from a movie maker, whose movie is currently in theaters.

That is a bold move, and probably making Jack Valenti spin in his grave.

Oh, he's not dead yet? Well, I guess you can't have everything...

Re:Not a documentary

[Jace of Fuse!]

I'm not a Bush supporter or a Moore hater - I often disagree with both. But I know which has integrity and which doesn't.

Okay, now you have me. Which one did you say has integrity?

Re:so-called deceits just spin

[MattXVI]

One the contrary, the Executive has an elaborate apparatus in place for dealing with disasters. It was by no means obvious after the first plane hit that it was a terrorist attack. I, you, and everybody else had no idea it was anything other than a tragic, horrible accident.

In such a case, the President surely would have played a role. Later, though. New York has a mayor, and a state governor whose job is to respond immediately to tragic disasters like crashed planes. It became a matter of imminent Federal concern when it was no longer an isolated event. And the President responded appropriately.

Re:Past week?

[Anonymous Coward]

It means more people want to see Spidy 2 than F9/11, Isnt that obvious?

Re:Not a documentary

[Uart]

He never argued the point of it not being a documentary, he made a statement of belief. In attempting to refute the original post, however, an argument as to why the initial assertion is incorrect would be required to establish validity, at which point the original poster, should he or she choose, could respond by defending his point (or allow the refutation to stand).

However, by essentially debating the original post with, "yes it is," you harken back to playground tactics.

Kid A: My poop doesn't smell
Kid B: Yes it does!
Kid A: No way!
Kid B: Does too
Kid A: Not ah. Take it back!

Now if Kid B wanted to win his argument, he would provide undeniable proof at this point:

Kid B: Does too, I smelled it, and it was yucky.
Kid A: Dude... You smelled my poop...
Kid B: Well, I wanted to...
Kid A: That's disgusting, what's wrong with you...
(Chorus: Poop-sniffer, Poop-sniffer...)

And so it goes. He wins, but at the cost of being ostracized as a poop-sniffer.

Re:Let's call Leftism for what it is

[Anonymous Coward]

Why do you hate America so much?

Top 10 GW complaints about F911

[mabu]

Letterman's Top Ten List: "Top Ten George W. Bush Complaints About "Fahrenheit 9/11":

10. That actor who played the President was totally unconvincing

9. It oversimplified the way I stole the election

8. Too many of them fancy college-boy words

7. If Michael Moore had waited a few months, he could have included the part where I get him deported

6. Didn't have one of them hilarious monkeys who smoke cigarettes and gives people the finger

5. Of all Michael Moore's accusations, only 97% are true

4. Not sure - - I passed out after a piece of popcorn lodged in my windpipe

3. Where the hell was Spider-man?

2. Couldn't hear most of the movie over Cheney's foul mouth

1. I thought this was supposed to be about dodgeball

Re:I agree Patriotic like Petain and Quisling

[1010011010]

Maybe he go as far as to make documentaries about it because he cares so much for his country and that it's properly run?

That's pretty funny.

Moore doesn't want a president that's in a school browsing a book when USA is attacked by Al-Qaida.

Yeah, I'm sure that Bush was intentionally reading books to children during the attack. His secretary probably scheduled it.

Re:Past week?

[tanguyr]

Now in spyderman, there were on average 5 people per family viewing the movie.

On average? What are you guys, rabbits?

Re:You people are totally missing it ...

[atrus]

I guess 35mm is totally inferior since its what most movies are shot on. 35mm.

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Re:CAM quality, or higher -- depends on the intent

[Aim Here]

"he's given so much credit by the so-called "left". "

Well Mike Moore isn't really the leftie's lefty. He's just the only left wing voice that most normal Americans ever hear, which is why he gets hit by rabid and disproportionate amounts of criticism by dribbling right-wing trolls much like yourself. Greg Palast and Noam Chomsky are much better, but almost nobody hears THEM and they're harder to criticise because they've got a much better command of the facts than Michael Moore. Hence you pick on the guy who gives you most bang for your dribbling troll buck, and even then, you get it wrong.

"So Mikey Moore won't send the IP "gestapo" around to me if I do copy his film? So what?"

Meaning he's a fuckload better than every single other Hollywood director that you conspicuously didn't criticise. Gnats and camels.

"As to the "open source way"... no. You've got it wrong. If Mikey Moore's movie were open source he would be releasing a decent copy of the film in some machine-readable format."

He's released a decent copy of the film. As a proper cinema film in a metal box and everything. That's the 'source' version, since everything else is just a lossy copy of that, even that nice DVD-friendly bitstream you're demanding he gives you for free. You CAN pay for that and make the digital copy you demand. Hey, someone has to make that machine-readable version, and it does involve a lot of actual work and capital expenditure, you know. Won't you get blackballed from your local society of libertarian loons if they hear you demanding that other people do work for you for free?

Richard Stallman didn't put out his early copies of emacs for free- if you got your emacs from Stallman, you had to pay him something like $150 or thereabouts. Do you expect Michael Moore to be even more of a puritan than good old RMS?

Besides, if you're going to criticise him for non 'open-source'-ness get it right. The major way he breaks that 'open source' thing is by his non-commercial restriction. Hope this helps.

Re:Without France, the US might never have existed

[Anonymous Coward]

hmmm. someone saw mel gibson in the patriot and now he is an expert on american history. maybe if you go see the passion of the christ you can be a bible scholar as well.