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Time-Shifting For The iPod 173

Posted by timothy
from the tivo-needs-no-separate-pc dept.
depechemodem writes "This story at ExtremeiPod talks about a new piece of software from Adam Curry called iPodder (now at Sourceforge) which uses RSS feeds with MP3 enclosures to stream audio to iTunes. The best part is that those streams can be saved as clips automatically on to your iPod or other MP3 player for later listening making this the first portable time-shifted Internet audio application. The code is alse being ported to Windows."
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Time-Shifting For The iPod

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @12:22PM (#10257192)
    I constantly timeshift radio using Audiohijack Pro. Every morning, NPR's Morning Edition is recorded and waiting for iTunes to transfer it to my iPod for my morning commute.
  • Re:huh? (Score:5, Informative)

    by garcia (6573) * on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @12:25PM (#10257226) Homepage
    It downloads Internet Radio streams and lets you play them back as MP3s later. Just like Tivo does for TV (allowing you to skip commercials with a slider bar) you can now do that with your favorite MP3 player (including the ever so popularly advertised iPod).
  • by Shabbs (11692) on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @12:30PM (#10257275)
    Check out iPodlounge.

    http://www.ipodlounge.com/ [ipodlounge.com]

    Lots of good links, reviews and discussion there about all things iPod (software and hardware related).

    Cheers.
  • by garcia (6573) * on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @12:31PM (#10257278) Homepage
    So basically, using an RSS and MP3 wrapper, they've created the 21st century equivalent of a tape recorder hooked up to a radio...

    More like a crippled DAT hooked up to a digital tuner with an Internet connection. You couldn't exactly tell your tape recorder to only record such and such a show on this, this, and that station without manual intervention. You also wouldn't exactly have digital audio.
  • by Paulrothrock (685079) on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @12:33PM (#10257299) Homepage Journal
    Mac or PC sites?

    I don't have a PC, but I use Pod2Go [kainjow.com] to do a whole bunch of neat stuff, including keeping an auto-synced backup of my important files, like my iPhoto library.

  • by mhollis (727905) on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @12:35PM (#10257325) Journal

    If you go to Versiontracker [versiontracker.com] you will find lots of cool software for the iPod and for iTunes if you enter iPod in their search box.

  • this is new? (Score:2, Informative)

    by CheetoNards (813730) on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @12:35PM (#10257333)
    looks like there have already been other programs designed to do this with itunes radio http://homepage.mac.com/swithers/iblog/C784421780/ E1012504207/ [mac.com] it seems like it should work with more than just the radio since it simply records audio being broadcast to the computer. Is this different is some way?
  • by chrisspurgeon (514765) <chris@spurgeonworlPARISd.com minus city> on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @12:53PM (#10257499) Homepage
    Not taking anything away from iPodder, but I've been using a great little app called Replay Radio for a year or so to grab my favorite web radio programs and save them as MP3s, which I then dump into my iPod. Product details here [replay-radio.com]
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @12:56PM (#10257526)
    First of all, this is not iPod specific.
    Maybe the concept of people extending the use of something is new to you, or you are simply a iPod zealot (I will automatically get modded down as troll for that)

    Either way, modification/changes/additions to electronic devices has always happened. Ever use a Sega Dreamcast, PSX, Xbox, DirectTV etc.... The few things around for the iPod are nothing compared to those.
  • Re:Wow, Adam Curry (Score:4, Informative)

    by GeorgeMcBay (106610) on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @12:59PM (#10257555)
    The thing that makes this really funny is that unlike the Matt Dillon jokes that pop up every time the BSD Matt Dillon is mentioned, this really is "that" Adam Curry. The one from MTV. Same guy...

  • by cjwl (776049) on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @01:06PM (#10257636)
    Don't forget this is the same guy who owned "mtv.com" back in the day.

    http://www.loundy.com/CASES/MTV_v_Curry.html/ [loundy.com]
  • The First? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Musicfan (813745) on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @01:10PM (#10257673)
    What the hell is this? I've been using Audio Hijack Pro [rogueamoeba.com] to time-shift radio programs for what, 2 years now? How is this /.-worthy? Yet another audio recording app. Oh, but it's Adam Curry - well in that case, post it right away!

    Newsflash - RMS takes world's first crap! Read it only on /.

  • by Luscious868 (679143) on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @01:36PM (#10257956)

    Don't forget hymn [hymn-project.org]. It allows you to convert protected AAC files that you purchase through the iTunes Music Store to unprotected AAC files that can be played back on any device, or with any piece of software, that supports AAC.

    Just be sure to backup the original protected AAC file somewhere just in case. Oh and I wouldn't be sharing these unprotected files on any P2P service. It does remove the DRM, but it doesn't remove certain tags within the file (called atoms) that can uniquely identify the user who purchased it. There are other pieces of software available that can remove those, but I'm not going to post any links.

  • by Colazar (707548) on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @01:48PM (#10258076)
    Just a guess, but:

    Morning Edition begins broadcasting at ~5AM Pacific time, and repeats its programming several times during its timeslot. (At least here in Seattle.)

    Many people's morning commute does not involve a car. The radio reception I got on the bus was always really crappy, so I've given up listening to a lot of radio. This might be a solution.

  • Re:Wow, Adam Curry (Score:5, Informative)

    by AssFace (118098) <`moc.liamg' `ta' `77znets'> on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @02:14PM (#10258333) Homepage Journal
    Not sure about the jeans, but his hair is still relatively long and still blonde. He has been living in the Netherlands although I think is moving (to England I think) soon.

    I have his blog in my RSS feed - he occasionally posts up photos of him and various people.

    He has been doing radio shows (even wen to Iraq and did some coverage there), has owned a series of tech start ups that apparently did fairly well (at least for him), and he also flies planes/helicopters.

  • by radish (98371) on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @02:22PM (#10258416) Homepage
    Mixing with an iPod? You're serious right? Wow. No thanks. It's a much better idea to use something designed for the job. Check out Rane/Serato Scratch Live [rane.com] which allows you to play AIFF, WAV, MP3 (soon Vorbis) directly on your regular vinyl or CD decks. Feels exactly like vinyl, right down to scratching, juggling, backspins, poweroffs, etc. It even integrates with iTunes for all you Apple junkies.
  • Streamers for OS X (Score:3, Informative)

    by christor (663626) on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @04:39PM (#10259834)
    If you're interested in having various streamed radio programs (like BBC, NPR, etc.) on your iPod, you may want to check out Streamers [versiontracker.com] for OS X. (Disclosure - I'm the author.) Using Ambrosia's WireTap, iCal, and iTunes, it allows you to keep a library of shows to be recorded and to schedule recordings. Just be sure to drag the app itself, and not the folder that contains it, into your Applications folder. The way I packaged the last build has caused a few users some confusion on this score.

    It's freeware; source is included; and I've just put up a sourceforge site for it.

  • Re:"Timeshifted" (Score:5, Informative)

    by badasscat (563442) <basscadet75.yahoo@com> on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @05:28PM (#10260289)
    "Timeshifted" is the new "previously recorded".

    Uh, well, it's not really all that new. It came about with the inital advent of VCRs.


    Well, not really. "Time-shifting", as a term, came about because there was something new about it, namely that you could watch what was being recorded while it was being recorded, but at a different point in time than what was recording at that moment. Obviously, that's a mouthful to say, hence the term "time-shifting". It was new to the digital world, and it's a big deal because it lets you, say, pause live TV and go make a sandwich, or start watching an 8 PM program at 8:03 without missing anything, or whatever. A VCR can't do that. (You'd have to record the entire show, then start watching at the beginning once it's over.)

    "Time-shifting" is different than just recording and watching/listening later. So this iPodder thing may be a bit of a misnomer; it may not do true time-shifting. It has to be able to play the clips you're recording as you're recording them, at any point in the stream. Just "saving clips" to listen to later is not time-shifting.
  • Missing the point (Score:4, Informative)

    by xombo (628858) on Wednesday September 15, 2004 @11:34PM (#10262734)
    A lot of people aren't reading the site and realizing what this technology is about:

    1) The program uses encapusization in RSS feeds to grab media from timely updated web sites.
    2) The program stores the media and transfers it to the iPod by way of iTunes.

    It does not "record broadcasts from streams" any more than using Kazaa to download videos allows you to fast-forward through the boring bits in porn.

    Essentially it expands on new RSS tools that give media sites the ability to post recently updated media resources.
  • Content? (Score:3, Informative)

    by LanMan04 (790429) on Thursday September 16, 2004 @09:51PM (#10273395)
    A neat tool, I got it working after some initial confusion (talk about lack of documentation, that is part of software development, you know), I found the content to be...err...lacking.

    I mean, as much as I like listening to IT babble all day, I get enough of that at work, and after work, and with my friends, etc. Sure would be nice if NPR, or CNN, or any new site not related to hard-core IT or crazy eclectic blogging supported RSS 2.0 with enclosures....
  • What iPodder is! (Score:3, Informative)

    by RaySl (790080) on Friday September 17, 2004 @01:10PM (#10277957)
    iPodder and like scripts is just a method of getting new content onto your iPod or MP3 playing device. Nothing more. Its not rocket science, just just a needed tool.

    RSS is just an XML file, one of the tags is an enclosure tag, that tag specifies a link to an MP3 file of a new audio program that the author has posted online.

    When the iPodder aggregator is run it checks for new MP3 files and downloads them into a playlist (Windows Media, iTunes, ect) that you can later sync up to a portable player.

    Why is this needed? hell that should be simple for anyone using an aggregator at all. Its just easier to have this stuff come to you then for you to go out and be on the look out for new 'IT Conversations' or 'The Daily Source Code' episodes.

    Yes the concept is simple, and very basic but it didn't exist before, so this fills a hole that a lot of listeners to these types of shows really needed.

    After reading some of the comments about iPodder, I was more than a little confused on how so many people could wrap their heads around what iPodder does, I hope this helps (sorry that is late in coming)

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