U.S. Continues Opposition to Kyoto Environmental Treaty 1580
fenris_23 writes "The AP is reporting
that President Bush has reiterated his opposition to the Kyoto Treaty despite President Putin's acceptance of the treaty and recent scientific evidence directly linking greenhouse emissions to arctic warming. 'President Bush strongly opposes any treaty or policy that would cause the loss of a single American job, let alone the nearly 5 million jobs Kyoto would have cost,' said James Connaughton, chairman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality."
Jobs?! (Score:5, Funny)
He doesn't need any treaties for that!
Fishing anyone? (Score:5, Funny)
zerg (Score:5, Funny)
Solution (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Pretty high threshold! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Jobs (Score:5, Funny)
You're either for the loss of jobs, or your for the creation of jobs. Now which are you?
A single American job (Score:4, Funny)
By that he means his.
Re:I'm sure he'll love the jobs created.... (Score:5, Funny)
Let the Dick Cheney jokes begin...
Re:zerg (Score:5, Funny)
FUD ? (Score:4, Funny)
How does Kyoto would make the US lose 5 millions jobs ? I would tend to believe the opposite : increased energy efficiency would make American industries more competitive and help fix the trade deficit.
But who am I to oppose the American people God-given right to burn fossile fuel like there is no tomorrow ?
Re:That's an excuse and you know it (Score:3, Funny)
Now if China started dumping its waste in my backyard then I would get interested. In the same way that I am interested in the U.S and Europe dumping their waste into the global atmospheric system.
OMG! I am so surprised! (Score:2, Funny)
Seriously, as an Amerikan citizen who voted to get W out, I hereby apologize to the rest of the world. We WILL do better next time, I promise.
Re:zerg (Score:1, Funny)
"Loss of lives however," he went on to say, "is negotiable".
Re:Fishing anyone? (Score:4, Funny)
the question is... (Score:1, Funny)
but can we get the government to go dutch on paying for them?
Re:Let's compare false dichotomies... (Score:5, Funny)
While I admire your proactive stance, it's generally considered poor form (not to mention confusing) to set up straw men for hypothetical future arguments. There's a shortage of straw men due to excessive over-use, so please, treat them like an antibiotic: wait to use them until you need them!
This message was brought to you by Straw Men Against the Constant Killing of Straw Men.
Re:I'm sure he'll love the jobs created.... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Jobs (Score:2, Funny)
So, are you going to be one of the people who dies to pollute our world less?
Voter Geography (Score:3, Funny)
It's quite clear what he's trying to do --- when the sea levels rise, the first US folks to drown will be those pinkos that voted against him, most of which live on the coasts. True, God-fearing, Republican-voting Americans live in the interior, and will be safe. They'll even be well armed to prevent a huge influx of Aetheist Commies from Massachusetts!
(It's a joke, darnit.)
Well, obviously (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Jobs (Score:5, Funny)
For a taste:
"US Suspects World not putting US Interests first"
Whitehouse evidence
International politicians and the media have blasted the U.S. for abandoning the Kyoto global warming treaty, despite the fact that the U.S. has explained the treaty would not be good for the U.S. economy."
Jedidiah.
Re:Jobs (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Jobs (Score:5, Funny)
*sniffle* God bless America.
Re:That's an excuse and you know it (Score:3, Funny)
<sarcasm>However judging by the last election results, the set of all Americans does include a sizable fraction of all the intelligence-impaired citizens of Earth</sarcasm>
Re:Jobs (Score:2, Funny)
Put the Blue States Under the Ocean (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Actually there are at least two others. (Score:5, Funny)
Just one of those words one can't say without smirking...
Re:Actually there are at least two others. (Score:4, Funny)
You want me to get my energy from space, through an antenna in my rectum?
Re:You're right (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Jobs (Score:0, Funny)
Re:Jobs (Score:1, Funny)
Trust me, our leaders are working on that.
Re:Jobs (Score:4, Funny)
Dear God, deliver me from these chimpanzees who can't get the 2 1/2 millennia old basic principles of logic into their little anthropoid brains.
Less People (Score:1, Funny)
Hmm... the birthrate is falling and population declining in western nations like the US, Canada and Western Europe. It's still exploding in India and China.
What to do? Starve large segments of the population and conduct infantacide? Oh wait, China does that. Let AIDS run rampant and kill off the undesirables, while depriving them of health care? Oh wait, India and most African nations do that.
And curiously, the population explosion continues predominantly in command economies. Go figure! Free market economies (aka evil capitalism) have declining populations. How is this possible?
And the award for (Score:3, Funny)
The United States of America!!! Woohoo!!
HA HA look they're still in character! No wait don't point that ICBM at me! Here, have some more oil! Nice superpower....
Re:Jobs (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Plain numbers: US can improve efficiency (Score:3, Funny)
- Unions.
- The anti-nuclear power crowd.
- Trial lawyers.
- Anti-corporate types (more efficient means more profits, can't have that).
- The welfare-rights crowd.
- Government regulators.
- Class warriors (more efficient industry might make the rich richer, can't have that).
- Diversity celebrators.
- Minimum wage advocates.
- OSHA
- NIMBY and BANANA environmentalists
- The anti-globalization crowd
- The anti-outsourcing crowd
- etc, etc, etc
Global Warming? Do you want boring or exciting? (Score:3, Funny)
Sunlight comes through the atmosphere as visible radiation which is transparent to the CO2 molecule. It strikes the earth and is re-radiated as infared radiation. This is opaque to CO2 and as a result, CO2 absorbs this radiation and holds onto it -- the Green House Effect. So, how do we control the Green House Effect? There are two, separate distinct ways:
a) Control the amount of Greenhouse gas emissions - the Kyoto protocol (boring)
or
b) Control the amount of sunlight entering the atmosphere, striking the earth and re-radiating as infared radiation (interesting possibilities)
I personally like b) because we can shift the blame for global warming:
1) We can blame the environmentalists for Global Warming. Those pesky clean air laws eventually allowed more sunlight to strike the earth. Allowing factories to continue billowing thick clouds of black soot would OBVIOUSLY lead to a reduction in the amount of sunlight striking the earth's surface - PROBLEM SOLVED.
2) We can blame the anti-nuke crowd for Global Warming. The 1963 Limited Test Ban Treaty essentially outlawed atmospheric, underwater, and outer space testing of nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons, among their many other wonderful attributes, kick up large amount of dust and debris into the atmosphere which PREVENTS sunlight from reaching the earth's surface. Remember Carl Sagan and his "Nuclear Winter" scenario? Regular distribution of nuclear explosions and carefully placed nuclear charges down volcanoes would keep Global Warming in check - PROBLEM SOLVED
Another avenue to solve Global Warming is to change the albedo or reflectance of earth's surface. The more sunlight is reflected harmlessly back into space rather than absorbed by the earth and re-radiated as infared radiation, the better control we will have over Global Warming. Two Words: Large mirrors. Remember the Bond flicks, "Diamonds are Forever", "The Man With The Golden Gun", and "Die Another Day"? Those films made use of the ol concentrated-sunlight-leads-to-world-domination ploy. Same idea here but in reverse.
Feel free to add any suggestions
My God, you're right! (Score:5, Funny)
Back shortly - I'm sneaking off next door to get dinner from my neighbour's fridge.