Jon Bringing WMV9 to Linux 467
julie-h writes "DVD Jon has done it again. This time it wasn't Apple the target, but Microsoft's WMV9 video format. There is as always a working Proof of Concept program with screenshots."
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Google Cache LinK! (Score:0, Informative)
Slashdotted already (Score:5, Informative)
Here's the Google Cache link [google.com].
slashdotting... (Score:5, Informative)
What he did last time wasn't illegal (Score:3, Informative)
What's the fuzz about? (Score:5, Informative)
If you want to watch your WMV now in linux... (Score:3, Informative)
It does not seem that DVD Jon has completely released his project yet, so if you are want to play WMVs in linux now, try using xine [sourceforge.net]. Quote from the xine site: "...It also decodes multimedia files like AVI, MOV, WMV, and MP3 from local disk drives...". With the small collection of trailers and a few movies from lmule [sourceforge.net] (it's like emule), I have not experienced one problem with xine.
Re:Nice... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:MPlayer? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:If you want to watch your WMV now in linux... (Score:3, Informative)
Well it's not open source per se (Score:5, Informative)
Now VC-1 and WM-9 are pretty much the same, and at this point it's not a huge streatch to take the VC-1 code and develop it to a full blown WM-9 player (which he seems to have done). However MS could chanve the WMV format at any time they like, and break compatibility. VC-1 will remain what ti is and they can't change it without SMPTE's approval (which makes the changes available to everyone), however WMV isn't necessiarly going to be the same thing.
Re:Isn't WMV supposed to be a "standard" for HD-DV (Score:4, Informative)
Currently there is a codec for WMV9, Microsoft owns it. Some other companies have liscensed it. The standard might be available but it takes a long time to work out an efficient codec that gives a good picture. In a few years it may be at a quality where TV stations will use it for interstation to air broadcast. But that is whith proffesional coders working on it.
Re:why not? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:MPlayer? (Score:5, Informative)
Using the DLLs is very slow, which makes a huge difference when you're trying to play 1080 videos on your system. Actually, using the DLLs via mplayer is faster than Media Player on Windows, but with source, it will get MUCH FASTER. A good example is when ffmpeg got native SVQ3 support:
Plus, you will have less problems with bugs, the ablity to playback on non-x86 systems, and the potential for encoding support in the future.
HDTV content (Score:5, Informative)
Some HDTV quality video is only in WM9, and some HDTV-DVD's also. Also for those pay music services that only use WM9.
http://www.wmvhd.com/ [wmvhd.com]
Re:How does Jon (Score:2, Informative)
B B B
Big Brass Balls
Guts
Brave
Courageous
"ms can change the format any time they like" (Score:3, Informative)
Can't people use Google? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Traditions change (Score:5, Informative)
Slashdotted? -- use Coral Cache (Score:3, Informative)
More about Coral: http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/coral/ [nyu.edu].
AWESOME - Though that would be WMV3, not WMV9... (Score:3, Informative)
Thank you, Jon!
Re:How does Jon (Score:4, Informative)
Re:A step closer to breaking WMV DRM? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Nice... (Score:2, Informative)
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Re:Licensing Windows Media for Other Platforms (Score:2, Informative)
What matters isn't the price of the Windows Media Licensing its the other terms some of which are unacceptable. Unless it has changed recently it commits any signing company to handing over some areas of technology development to Microsoft, and restricts what other technologies you can develop such as media servers.
The license is explicity anti-competitive and also vague in what it grants you. The MPEG licenses on the other hand while financially expensive (this varies between particular licenses) are simple patent license grants with no restrictive conditions.
In my view the price for the Microsoft licenses is higher.
Re:How does Jon (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Mixed feelings (Score:3, Informative)
IIRC, in Norway reverse engineering is perfectly legal, and there is no DMCA-esque law.
Remember that the Norwegion courts have ruled before that DVD Jon has not done anything illegal. If he had, you can be sure the movie industry would be on Jon like a tonne of bricks.
So you can rest well, knowing that DVD Jon's actions are probably quite legal, at least in his country. What other people do with his work in countries that have different laws, is hardly his problem.