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Has TiVo's Fate Been Sealed? 364

ChipGuy writes "Things are getting bleak for TiVo, reports the New York Times, and adds that TiVo blew a major opportunity to team up with Comcast. And that might have cost CEO Michael Ramsey the job. Om Malik writes that 'The fate of TiVo also highlights the dilemma facing a lot of "exploding TV" start-ups. The technology does not necessarily translate into profits and a business,' and breaks down the financials -- over half a billion dollars in losses so far. PVRBlog adds that 'When the story of TiVo is written, this Comcast negotiation could be the point when the company's outcome was decided.' More reactions here."
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Has TiVo's Fate Been Sealed?

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 17, 2005 @09:29PM (#11391063)
    It is official; Netcraft confirms: Tivo is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Tivo community when IDC confirmed that Tivo market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that Tivo has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Tivo is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict Tivo's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Tivo faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Tivo because Tivo is dying. Things are looking very bad for Tivo. As many of us are already aware, Tivo continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeTivo is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeTivo developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeTivo is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenTivo leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenTivo. How many users of NetTivo are there? Let's see. The number of OpenTivo versus NetTivo posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetTivo users. Tivo/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetTivo posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of Tivo/OS. A recent article put FreeTivo at about 80 percent of the Tivo market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeTivo users. This is consistent with the number of FreeTivo Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeTivo went out of business and was taken over by TivoI who sell another troubled OS. Now TivoI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that Tivo has steadily declined in market share. Tivo is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Tivo is to survive at all it will be among DVR dilettante dabblers. Tivo continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Tivo is dead.

    Fact: Tivo is dying
  • by PopeAlien ( 164869 ) on Monday January 17, 2005 @09:35PM (#11391115) Homepage Journal
    'The fate of TiVo also highlights the dilemma facing a lot of "exploding TV" start-ups.',

    ok, I admit I'm not real familiar with the latest in television technology, but exploding TV's? what could possibly be the upside of that? faced with that sort of danger you'd definately want a TV-b-Gone. I'd say if their TV's are exploding TiVo's fate has definately been sealed. [tvbgone.com]
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 17, 2005 @09:39PM (#11391153)
    First, TechTV and now TiVo? Damn you, Comcast!
  • by BoomerSooner ( 308737 ) on Monday January 17, 2005 @11:43PM (#11391922) Homepage Journal
    No wonder they save. If they buy stuff they don't have anywhere to put it! I thought my friends apartments in San Francisco were small! 200 sq ft is really small. Sometimes living in Oklahoma has its advantages (inexpensive housing & land).
  • by brad3378 ( 155304 ) on Tuesday January 18, 2005 @12:27AM (#11392150)
    You could probably find a case for free or close to it.

    Case? we don't need no stinkin' case!!!

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