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Star Wars Revelations - May the Force Be With You! 628

n0alpha writes "For all you Star Wars fans out there, if you've been less than satisfied with the last two episodes of Star Wars, fear not. There is a new episode coming out soon -- but I'm not talking about Revenge of the Sith. On April 16th, 2005 the world will be blessed with a brand new episode, Star Wars Revelations. This is an independent film, completely put together by volunteers and organized by Panic Struck Productions, but don't let that fool you into thinking it is sub-par. Visit their website to view a trailer."
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  • This has... (Score:5, Funny)

    by poopdeville ( 841677 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:02PM (#11939606)
    ..."copyright infringement" written all over it.
    • Re:This has... (Score:5, Informative)

      by Rs_Conqueror ( 838344 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:05PM (#11939642)
      Considering George Lucas judges the yearly star wars fanfilms, this seems unlikely.
    • You can get away with a LOT of what would otherwise be considered "copyright infringement" in your creative works if you can construe it as parody... particularly if it's not a for-profit enterprise and doesn't have a negative impact on the commercial value of the original work.

      Still, telling it to the court won't be particularly fun. =(

      • Re:Parody! (Score:5, Funny)

        by antimatt ( 782015 ) <xdivide0@gmail.com> on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:20PM (#11939772) Homepage
        how to make a parody of a Star Wars film:

        1. Make a film in the Star Wars universe.
        2. Hire good actors, and give them good direction.
        3. Profit. Fear no copyright infringement.

        -matt.
        • Re:Parody! (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Tim Browse ( 9263 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @11:03PM (#11940077)
          Yeah, don't go hiring any of those bad actors like Christopher Lee, Ewan McGregor, Liam Neeson, Natalie Portman, Ian McDiarmid, Terence Stamp, Samuel L. Jackson etc.

          I mean, those guys freaking suck!

          (See what I did there?)

          • Re:Parody! (Score:5, Funny)

            by Mr Ambersand ( 862402 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @11:29PM (#11940226)
            Natalie Portman sucks? Wow! Now that's 'News For Nerds'!
          • Re:Parody! (Score:5, Funny)

            by macshit ( 157376 ) * <snogglethorpe@NOsPAM.gmail.com> on Monday March 14, 2005 @11:30PM (#11940228) Homepage
            I just wish they'd pick a good hairdresser.

            This has bugged me ever since the first Star Wars film. They're flying around in spaceships, wearing funky clothing, fighting light-saber duels, etc., and I'll be suspending my disbelief just fine, ... but wait ... all the male actors have hair right out of the local teen boy-band concert! Gah!

            C'mon guys, either make the hair (1) really weird (the female actors seem to have this down), or (2) mind-bendingly conservative (pick something that hasn't changed in 1500 years, like shaving it all off). At least stop using Tiger Teen Beat as your model.
            • Re:Parody! (Score:5, Funny)

              by madmancarman ( 100642 ) on Tuesday March 15, 2005 @12:49AM (#11940642)
              C'mon guys, either make the hair (1) really weird (the female actors seem to have this down), or (2) mind-bendingly conservative (pick something that hasn't changed in 1500 years, like shaving it all off). At least stop using Tiger Teen Beat as your model.

              Have you seen George Lucas's hair? Is it any wonder they all look like Jack from Three's Company?

            • by killjoe ( 766577 )
              In the far distant galaxy mankind has the technology to make virtually anything fly. Whether it be spaceships the size of states or tiny little orbs.

              And yet they continue to make robots of all shapes and sizes that roll on wheels, walk or stumble around trying to get up stairs.
    • by ehiris ( 214677 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:14PM (#11939717) Homepage
      They could release it in Mexico. It would join the Oakley knock-offs you find there. Only that real Oakleys are better then the knock-offs.

      Just because Lucas owns the copyright on Star Wars he shouldn't film knock-offs :)
    • by Anonymous Coward
      "I see your Shwartz is as big as mine!"

  • cool (Score:5, Funny)

    by dirvish ( 574948 ) <(dirvish) (at) (foundnews.com)> on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:02PM (#11939612) Homepage Journal
    That is the first exciting Star Wars news I've heard in a long time! ...and just when I had started to give up.
    • Sorry (Score:2, Funny)

      by hey! ( 33014 )
      I misread

      That is the first exciting Star Wars news I've heard in a long time! ...and just when I had started to give up.

      as

      That is the first exciting Star Wars news I've heard in a long time! ...and just when I had started to grow up.
      • Re:Sorry (Score:3, Funny)

        by dirvish ( 574948 )
        Keep practicing your reading, you'll get it right some day.
      • I know you people are being facetious, but this film, judging from the outtakes in the trailer, has Mystery Science Theater 3000 written all over it. And what's with the chubby goth chick? Having watched this, all I can think of is that extra at the beginning of Empire:

        "Two escorts against a Star Destroyer?" A distinctly wooden moment, to be sure.

        Yet Revelations is an entire film featuring thespians of this caliber. Could this be a guerilla attack by the MST 3000 crew?

  • by AtariAmarok ( 451306 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:02PM (#11939618)
    " but don't let that fool you into thinking it is sub-par"

    Since you said it was NOT by George Lucas, I was not tending to think it was sub-par already.

    • I was raised on the the Original Star wars trilogy and have watched them over and over! But the new star wars prequels are pure junk, when compared to the original three. The original 3 are easy to digest and seem to whisk you away to this fantasy world and the story just flows freely throughout the movies.

      The new and improved CG crapfest movies are force fed (go on eat up, it's star wars of course you'll love it) and trudge along with jagged edges.

      The new movies also lack patience in its story develop, a
      • by Koiu Lpoi ( 632570 ) <koiulpoi AT gmail DOT com> on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:51PM (#11940007)
        About the CG: Now, I for one have always played computer and console games, going all the way back to my sega genesis. I do some 3d programming work, so I know how a 3d engine works and feels. I know how real life works and feels.

        Getting to the point: In my opinion, there is something wrong about Lucas's CGI. Whatever he uses just doesn't feel right to me. My father describes it as feeling 'flat' - which he gave no such condemnation to Half-Life 2 or Far Cry. I describe it as being 'too smooth' or 'unrealistic' - but I just can't put my finger on it. It's extremly prominent in Episode 2. However, to see it at it's worst, see the original 3 remade - the CGI scenes in that, which are hacked in, REALLY feel wrong to me. Has anyone else noticed this? I think this may play a large part in the rejection of the newer films - the old ones, while a lot of it was nottoogreatlooking, it was still very real.
        • by CockblockTheVote ( 849450 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @11:16PM (#11940144)
          Flat is not the word you are looking for. The word you seek is "soulless". There is nothing behind the characters, no life, no personality. Even with the puppets in the first trilogy there was someone behind the mask, behind the strings. That gave them life. And made the characters more believeable. And with the scenes in the original that were updated, the same thing applies. they feel more real because they were. There were spaceships, however small, that were filmed. They actually existed. You can't get the same feel from CGI, yet, as you can from something that exists in the real world, no matter what the scale.
          • by B3ryllium ( 571199 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @11:52PM (#11940368) Homepage
            You've never seen Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, or Shrek, have you?
          • by mosb1000 ( 710161 ) <mosb1000@mac.com> on Tuesday March 15, 2005 @05:46AM (#11941643)
            Do you feel that the characters in the prequels have anything behind the actor? No, there is nothing, even the parts of these movies which are "real" lack soul.

            On the other hand, if you watch Finding Nemo, everything feels real, even though it's just CG fish in a CG ocean. What's the difference? Writing, story, acting, perhaps.

            The idea that the problem is CG is just absurd. People said the same thing about color movies when they were first released. The problem isn't that you loose something when you use CG for effects, the problem is that you don't gain anything. You can't expect a movie to be good just because it has good special effects.

            Go and watch the original movies, the special effects weren't anymore believable. The might have looked more real, but all that means is that Yoda looked like a real puppet, and Jabba the Hut looked like a real bunch of plastic with real people inside. They weren't any more convincing in the roles they were supposed to play. And don't even talk about space scenes, there's no way the space scenes look more realistic in the original movies. The only difference is that they couldn't do as much because of the limitations of using "real" models instead of CG models.
          • I always bring this up on the CG threads, and I'll do so again.

            Take the asteroid sequence in ESB -- fabulous! You get a sense of real depth and motion, to the point of tipping back and forth in your seat and feeling your stomach drop at times, like watching those roller coaster films on an IMAX screen. That was all done with models and real cameras.

            Take the asteroid/ring belt scene in Clones. Visually, it's a nice piece of eye candy, to be sure. But I was immediately struck by how flat and/or soulle

        • by Martin Blank ( 154261 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @11:45PM (#11940326) Homepage Journal
          Maybe part of what you're trying to grasp is the lack of atmosphere translating to the CGI. There is the subtle motion blur inherent in all movement filmed with a camera (digital or not), but I think the motion blur effect done with the CGI, when it is there at all, doesn't match up. This causes the CGI to stand out in ways that are hard to pick out during the action.

          Somehow ILM got it right when filling in the rest of Mos Eisley, because the atmosphere of the town worked and you could really get a feel for how bad a place it really was. The rest of the CGI just didn't work -- and the Jabba scene in the remake of Ep4 was just painful to watch. I cringed in my seat at the theater and had to look away a couple of times.
        • The overall problem that I have with the CG in the NT is the lack of attaintion to physics.

          For example, when the 2 jump down into the loading bay on the ship before stowing away to go down to the planet, see if there is any acceleration to their falls.

          It's also painfully aware in the droid b'kars (or however they are spelled). When they roll and move, there is no acceleration, just 2 speeds: stopped or rolling 100%.

          Many more examples could be given. (I'm not even going to touch it when he tries to ride t
      • by hkmwbz ( 531650 ) on Tuesday March 15, 2005 @07:23AM (#11941940) Journal
        You are comparing apples and oranges here. The OT is a grand space soap Opera, whereas the NT is specifically created to show you how Darth Vader came to be. OT is about good vs. evil in the universe, NT is about Anakin's path from good to evil. Two completely different levels.

        I quite enjoyed episode 1 and 2. I always kept Darth Vader in the back of my mind, and I could gradually see Anakin change - I could understand how he might end up on the dark side of the Force. And the NT constantly foreshadows what inevitably will happen in episode 3.

        I think you are too caught up in the fact that the NT is not made the same way the OT is. It's not supposed to! The NT is telling a completely different story on a completely different level.

        There was a discussion about Star Wars the other day, and amidst all the +5 insightful "SW used to rock, but now it sucks" comments, I found this gem [slashdot.org], where the poster explains how things fit together, and why it's done this way. It makes a lot of sense!

        The OT could be watched separately, but the NT is a real trilogy, where you won't get the whole picture, or indeed appreciate it all, until you actually see all the movies.

        Presumably :)

        • It's not about the story, it's about the films as a whole. I'm not a star wars fan, I don't give a damn about Anakin's path to evil or any of the backstory about republics and empires. You're a star wars fan, you're more interested in finding out the backstory than the actual films. Other people are actually interested in watching decent films, I think that's where the disagreements come from.

          It's as if the new three films are there just to tell star wars fans what 'happened' before the originals, rather t
  • now just... (Score:4, Funny)

    by Rs_Conqueror ( 838344 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:03PM (#11939623)
    Now if only somone would make a fanfilm involving the horrific death of jar-jar...
    • Re:now just... (Score:3, Informative)

      There's always Episode 3: A Lost Hope [sequentialpictures.com]. He's given.... special treatment.
  • backups? (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Hope they weren't storing all their footage on the server /. just melted down.
  • by TelJanin ( 784836 )
    The movie seems to be set after/during Episode 3. How do they know what they are filming will not conflict with the official movie?
  • by elflet ( 570757 ) * <elflet @ n e x t q uestion.net> on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:04PM (#11939632)
    At first I was taken aback by the cheezy dialog ("she lied to me! She used me!"), adequate acting, and overall look. Then I remembered Jar-Jar. This band of rebel filmmakers may be the galaxy's best last hope.
  • Looks good (Score:5, Interesting)

    by maotx ( 765127 ) <{maotx} {at} {yahoo.com}> on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:04PM (#11939636)
    The movie looks pretty decent. The CGI effects are better than the original movies though the acting could use a little improvement. For an independant film I'm really impressed with it. If they showed it at my local theater I'd be willing to cough up the $9 to see it just for the original content.

    Any word on how they are going to release this film? Online? Select theater?
  • by Scareduck ( 177470 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:05PM (#11939641) Homepage Journal
    ... change the copyright laws and/or the course of Lucasfilm, and give these guys legal power to make whatever sequels/prequels they want? Without having seen any of this, it occurs to me that the conventional wisdom WRT the Star Wars franchise is that Lucas desperately needs to hand control over to somebody else, and he is increasingly unwilling and/or incapable of doing so.

    Lucas recently said the newest sequel is not for children [bbc.co.uk], and given the quality of the other ones put out since about halfway through Return of the Jedi, it's not for adults, either. Die, midiclorians, die! Die, Ewoks, die! Die, Jar-Jar, die!

    lather, rinse, repeat

  • Looks nice but... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by coupland ( 160334 ) * <dchase@hotmailCHEETAH.com minus cat> on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:07PM (#11939653) Journal
    Okay, the CGI, sound, and effects were outstanding. But the acting and dialogue made me pray I'd be struck by a passing meteorite. Wait a minute, that was a verbatim transcript of my opinions of Ep1 & 2... Maybe these folks are on to something...
  • by DrLudicrous ( 607375 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:10PM (#11939678) Homepage
    Seems slashdotted already, at 8 minutes past posting. Anyone manage to save a copy to bittorrent?
  • by Saxerman ( 253676 ) * on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:10PM (#11939683) Homepage
    I've long been saying that the content cartels will eventually be overthrown by a mass of free content. The cost and availability of the tools required for 'high quality' special effects has been rapidly declining, and we're beginning to see more and more content from , [nuklearpower.com] flash sites [xombified.com], and . [redvsblue.com]

    The majority of free content created is, of course, subpar. The tools still need to be wielded by skilled artisans to created above average content. Regardless, as the bar continues to be lowered for entry into the field, more and more people with some degree of talent will find new outlets for their creativity.

    I don't see there being any sort of mass uprising anytime soon, as the content cartels still have a lot on the distribution outlets, but the rise of the Internet has changed the playing field dramatically. The major counter-argument has been that the content cartels can merely buy up the few quality titles to maintain their advantage, but my theory is that there is enough latent creativity waiting in the wings they won't be able to stem the tide.

    Well... I can dream, can't I?

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  • by McCarrum ( 446375 ) <.moc.liamg. .ta. .grubmil.kram.> on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:13PM (#11939711)
    Alas, poor website! I knew it, Horatio: a site of infinite uptime, of most excellent fancy: it hath borne me on its pages a thousand times; and now, how absent in my browser it is! my gorge rims at it. Here hung those graphics that I have watched I know not how oft. Where be your scripts now? your applets? your stylesheets? your flashes of gif animation, that were wont to set my bandwidth on a groan?
  • by garagekubrick ( 121058 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:16PM (#11939732) Homepage
    This isn't about issues of copyright - but a minor rant about the attention paid to every nerd's attempt to craft their own little aside in an established universe.

    The production tools the average person can get their hands on today are staggering. And yet we continually praise people for making films that show an absolute dearth of original imagination and inspiration. Yet audiences complain continually about how Hollywood shows no originality itself.

    All the time spent on Revelations could've been put into crafting a story that would be infinitely more intelligent and challenging than any large scale expensive production. I want to see handmade films that offer the expansive ideas in real science fiction and fantasy that the expense of large scale moviemaking prohibits.

    Shane Carruth spent probably as much money on the film Primer, a completely original and not at all amateurish looking film that fits perfectly into the comprehension and intelligence of the slashdot audience. But instead any time a bunch of uninspired morons use their time to knock off and emulate and continue the tyranny of imagination that a thousand executives push on audiences like Robert McKee or endless abortions engineered from a cursory reading of Joseph Cambpell, nerds freak out.

    Own yourselves. Use those tools to make original, inspired, unique works of art. Stop making and continuing dreck based up on dreck, especially when you don't even have the option to afford hairstylists who'd make your film look as good as the original.
    • Forgot to choose HTML when I posted - Info on Shane Carruth's Primer [primermovie.com] - now with a link.
    • by rhysweatherley ( 193588 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @11:49PM (#11940348)
      If they had made something original, it probably would never had gotten mentioned on Slashdot or anywhere else. It would have been just another student project, lost in the film archives for all time.

      By using an established genre, they get more media coverage and potential viewers. This increases the chance that the director, special effects guy, or one of the actors will be noticed by a big name to work on something more substantial. And then they will be able to do their own thing.

      I believe that in university-level art classes, you need to turn in paintings in realistic, impressionist, post-modern styles, etc, to pass the course, to show that you have more depth than just one artistic style. Even if you never paint another da Vinci in your life, you still have to prove that you can.

      Consider this movie the answer to a film student's exam question: "Create a film in the style of Lucas".

  • by WarPresident ( 754535 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:17PM (#11939742) Homepage Journal
    When reached for comment about a new fan-created film, Mr. D. Vader, a spokesperson for LucasFilms released the following statement: "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed, the ability to host a file is no match for the power of the Slashdot force."
  • The Force (Score:4, Funny)

    by Vidiot3k ( 612026 ) <{moc.liamg} {ta} {ttehctapleoj}> on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:17PM (#11939745)
    is not with their server... It fell to the dark side.
  • Mirror (be nice) (Score:5, Interesting)

    by amitti ( 210015 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:20PM (#11939770) Homepage
    Got a new box, lets see how my Dual Xeon handles.. (be nice)

    web_trailer_II_larger.mov [aaronmitti.com]

    -Mitti
  • May the slashdotting be with you.

    KKKKAAAAAAAHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!

    (fade to black)

  • ...a rumble was heard.

    Right after Lucas read about this on Slashdot.
  • by __aaclcg7560 ( 824291 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:27PM (#11939823)
    What we really need is Spaceball 2 to hit the big screens. Of course, some people might be saying, "Oh, no... not again!" :P
  • nyud.net mirror (Score:4, Informative)

    by totoanihilation ( 782326 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:29PM (#11939838)
    Here's a mirror for the home page and the full-sized trailer:

    Homepage [nyud.net]
    Trailer (.mov) [nyud.net]

    I'd post a torrent but I don't have a tracker... Perhaps Slashdot should run one for things like these ;)
  • by __aailob1448 ( 541069 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:36PM (#11939897) Journal
    This is very nice looking for a fan-made movie. It is , however, subpar to a hollywood production (CG, actors, fight scenes...). But even getting to the level to actually be compared to a hollywood movie is a huge achievement so congratulations to the crew.

    I'll be sure to check it out when it comes out.
  • What terrible acting (Score:4, Informative)

    by BlightThePower ( 663950 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:36PM (#11939899)
    the Kelly Osborne lookalike's "EVIL voice" was especially weak. I won't be bothering with that. You can slop all the CGI you want over something but if the acting is flat and the cast somewhat aesthetically challenged its simply not fixable.
    • Yeah, I agree. The voice acting was right up there with B-List porn. Add some chickabowwow guitar riffs to that dual-saber fight and you'd have the perfect lead-in to the obligatory girl-on-girl scene.

      Oh come on! Tell me you weren't thinking the same thing. You're a perverted bastard and you know it.
  • by legLess ( 127550 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:42PM (#11939940) Journal
    For a fan production I'd officially say "not bad." It obviously took a lot of work, and I can't denigrate that.

    OTOH, it kinda sucked. I've seen cable access shows with better acting. Not surprisingly given the source material, it's pretty similar to most of the scifi crap Lucas, and Hollywood, churn out these days: blow the budged on special effects, look to Ed Wood for directing inspiration.
  • by lelitsch ( 31136 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:44PM (#11939960)
    "Funniest advice ever this is. A heap of molten lava their server will become."--Yoda

    My heart goes out to the poor admin--I just hope they don't have any daylies on the same machine.
  • Torrent (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:49PM (#11939987)
    First time hosting a torrent, so here goes: http://68.205.82.17:3001/web_trailer_II_larger.mov .torrent [68.205.82.17]
  • First off, the CGI, while not to the level as the 'AAA' modern day films, is still quite amazing. Ships, exploding stuff, robotic limbs... Very nicely done. There were a few scenes in the trailer where the CGI looked blurry compared to the rest of the shot, but that could be fixed up before release.

    I don't really follow the Star Wars universe as a whole, so all I can say about the plot is that it is interesting.

    However, as many people have already pointed out, the acting is sub-par. The lead evil actress tries to have some sort of menacing voice, but just sounds like her mouth is packed with something. (acorns?) The acting of other parts (such as the confrontation on the 'good guy' ship) seems forced, with delayed reaction time. The lightsaber scene between the two lead females just didn't feel right.

    There were also some parts of the trailer that just didn't fit in with the pace of it. The one main example that I saw was the girl dancing in a futuristic version of those hanging cages (I have no idea what they are called.) The pace of her body threw off the suspense that was (supposedly) building, and conflicted with the (then) slow music. It also had no real purpose that I could tell.

    Hopefully the acting throughout the entire movie averages better than the trailer, but I wouldn't be surprised if the opposite were true.

    It's probably good for them that they can't charge money for it.

    I am not a film critic, obsessive Star Wars fan, or acting buff, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
    • Oh come on, this is a fan film for Jebus's sake, and in that context its pretty fucking amazing.

      Want to talk about cheese? How about the entire cantina scene from ep4? Or Jabba's palace? Thats muppet amateur night right there, but it cost millions. The 'film crime' per dollar is much higher with Lucas's people.

      Acting? In Star Wars? Err, Mark Hamil's whiney performance? The first Anakin? The gay droids? Natalie Portman's stone-faced performances?

      As far as CGI goes, go ahead and rent the trilogy and you'l
  • by spacepirate09 ( 867786 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:54PM (#11940026)
    I find it a bit foolish to insult actors in fanfilms. I doubt the maker of the movie had an unlimited budget and could hire actors fresh out of Hollywood. Give the guy a break, he's trying.
    • by Wylfing ( 144940 ) <brian@@@wylfing...net> on Monday March 14, 2005 @11:24PM (#11940201) Homepage Journal
      I doubt the maker of the movie had an unlimited budget and could hire actors fresh out of Hollywood. Give the guy a break, he's trying.

      Indeed, it would be foolish to condemn any part of this effort. Sure, the acting isn't awesome, but there can be a lot of reasons for that, including inexperience at directing. It's definitely good enough to carry the show, and some of the lines are delivered quite convincingly.

      Now the special effects...Holy cow! Those are fantastic.

    • From the looks of the pictures on the website, I'm guessing that the stromtroopers they used were fans who happened to bring their own stormtrooper armor. Which would be fine, except that one seems a little too tall, and another is very short.

      On Bespin: "Hey check out those stormtroopers! They look a little odd..."
      On Tatooine: "Uhhh... aren't those the same... naah!"
      On Coruscant: "It's those same three stormtroopers again! Wow, those guys get around!"
  • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:55PM (#11940031)
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  • by GeekTek ( 124147 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @10:58PM (#11940052)
    A million geeks cheering in joy and were suddenly silenced. By a million lawyers.
  • by perlmunger ( 577278 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @11:29PM (#11940218)
    I'm in luck!!! -Matt
  • Copyright safety (Score:5, Informative)

    by yow2000 ( 763256 ) on Monday March 14, 2005 @11:43PM (#11940310)
    From: http://panicstruckpro.com/revelations/revelations_ faq.html#Anchor-27696 [panicstruckpro.com]

    Question
    Is Lucas aware of your film and isn't he going to sue the hell out of you?

    Answer:
    For most people who do not understand fan films we get this question often .To answer, I doubt if Lucas himself has seen "Revelations". However ,Lucas is a large supporter for fan films,and is very kind enough to let other inspiring artists play in his backyard, as long as you don't try and make money from his hard work, and respectfully so.

    "Revelations" is a non-profit film and everyone who worked on the film was a volunteer (no one was paid). The film itself will be availible free to download from TheForce.net and the "Revelations" website to anyone who wishes to watch it.

    A great article put out by "Wired" covers some good ground about fan films and here is what Steve Sansweet (Lucasfilm's head of Fan Relations) had to say:

    "There is plenty of room for fans to express their own feelings and opinions," Sansweet said. "We believe our core fans are responsible for the continuing popularity of the series, and we want to encourage them. Our intellectual properties are there for you to play with, but we expect you won't try and make a profit or use our characters in a salacious way. Having that wide-open frontier serves as a self-policing mechanism for the fans, who are really appreciative of being included."

    "Sansweet added that Lucas believes fan films will grow more sophisticated as the amateur filmmakers gain new skills. "

  • Wow!!!! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by tdhillman ( 839276 ) * on Monday March 14, 2005 @11:50PM (#11940353)
    That of course was a cheap wow to suck you in, justas this film will be. Traiers always look good. That's their job. Mediocre acting and bad fight choreography won't make this even hold up.
    Fact is, all the Star Wars films have been, in their own way, deliciously bad. Harrison Ford is a block of wood, Hamill just plain is no actor...

    It's all about the story- Star`Wars succeeded because there was never anything like it before- when it hit, no one knew. That Episode Four was a better picture was no surprise. By the time Six cam around, it was time to tie it up in a neat little basket.

    The true test will come when we look at this films in story order and see how the whole thing holds up- were te first three exposition adn therefore tedious as hell? Likely so. Revenge of the Sith just might be the tie that binds the exposition to the action. Too damn bad we'll never see the actual climax and resolution of the story.
  • by barfy ( 256323 ) on Tuesday March 15, 2005 @01:32AM (#11940836)
    They are doing very very well in most of the technical aspects, but they forgot the guy with the directional boom mike. And when you do that, no matter how good the movie it sounds like a porno. And when it sounds like a porno, everyone thinks the actors act like they are in a porno and start bagging on the acting.

    Much of the bad acting are the vocals not being recorded and compressed properly. Hopefully a decent sound guy will step up and help them fix it!
  • On performing arts (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Qbertino ( 265505 ) <moiraNO@SPAMmodparlor.com> on Tuesday March 15, 2005 @05:17AM (#11941534)
    I studied and trained performing arts, have a diploma in that and I also consider myself somewhat firm at general visual/fine arts.
    The thing hat occured to me about watching and noticing the bad acting , as a lot of people here allready have done, is I thought that I would have done it better. Yet the other part of that is that it also occured to me how extremly difficult it would be to get it just right. For novices aswell as for me.

    I've long considered starting a little independent film project and I think I would be the type of guy to a) not consider a fan project like this 'below' me and b) actually be able to aply my skills in such a way that everybody would profit from it. Like for instance the mentioned bad acting. There are a few extremly simple rules of acting that just sink in with the years that these people could have followed to greatly enhance even that short trailer. Very much like the simple rules you just know when to apply as an experienced programmer.

    Some must-have basics:
    If you want to sound fierce, loud and evil, tone down on the vowels and emphasise the consonants. Do speech training. Do speech training with your lines.
    The moment you know your lines is the moment you START practicing them, you don't stop it there. (That's what differs a school play from professional acting btw)

    When you act, your head and facial expression leads your motion, when you dance your body leads your motion and facial expression. For dancing: On at least one part of your body at a time the musical beat should be visible. (Cue stupid dirty jokes below :-) )

    And finally, my performing arts process I've refined over 10 years of professional work -
    practice an act in this order (and in this order ONLY):

    1) Learn to know the play and learn your lines by heart. Nothing else. Don't dare try to act at this stage. NEVER try to act at this stage. If you do, you WILL suck on stage/film. Trust me. I've studied with to many third class perfomers, the world has enough of them. In fact, you shouldn't even move very much when reciting your lines at this stage.

    2) Give your lines flow and vividness by supporting each one with an inner picture and vision. EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE. Give the string of visions a storytelling consistency. It's at this stage perfomers notice wether they've understood the playwrite or wether they have to correct their povs at some place or other. This is the stage at which storyboarders, and directors of photography double check their plans for shooting. Again: don't act yet. Do more of a reciting or storytelling thing. Good RPG Gamemasters enter this stage frequently for instance.

    3) Forget your lines for this stage. Think of that other person whos lines you happen to know by heart and what kind of a character he might be. Pratice stances, poses and gestures emphasising basic emotions with the impitus of that character. Don't do that with the lines. Don't act the play! Do that with differen't things. Lines you make up. Best is to make up a little play by itself. You're on the safe side if you take - for instance - the tragic Anakin Skywalker (well he was a tragic character and the acting wasn't bad at all for such a 5th grade script) and try to play him as if he were a part in a comedy. Don't speak to early. Practice the stances, poses and gestures. Learn the difference between movement leading to pose and pose leading to movement.

    4) Now practive stances, poses, gestures and movement of the play. Use the visions of 2). Don't speak your lines to much. Whisper them or speak them toneless. You want to concentrate on the moving part. You practice that seperately from speaking at first.

    5) Add you lines and and your adversaries in play. Get in sync. If your coplayers are good, you won't even need a director. Do the stuff. The thing. In one word: Act.
    HERE is where the acting kicks in. And once again: Anybody who starts earlier in the process WILL suck in performance. When you
    • Dear God man- are you a prancing fairy or what?! I've acted, stage managed, and directed from high school to regional theatre and you just sound like a prat from Juliard who has about zip talent and all the "theory".

      Mentioning that you are trying to win an award is about as bad as it get (your international multimedia award). Until you get it, do not speak about it, because I am working on an Emmy, even though I am not attractive, can't act well, but I took an acting class! And hell almighty- you think

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