RMS Weighs in on BitKeeper Debacle

RMS Weighs in on BitKeeper Debacle 1137

Posted by timothy on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:24PM from the quite-a-backhand dept.

mshiltonj writes "You know its what we've all been waiting for: RMS weighs in on the BitKeeper debacle. An excerpt: "I want to thank Larry McVoy. He recently eliminated a major weakness of the free software community, by announcing the end of his campaign to entice free software projects to use and promote his non-free software. Soon, Linux development will no longer use this program, and no longer spread the message that non-free software is a good thing if it's convenient."

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A question for RMS (Score:3, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:26PM (#12340232)

Do you prefer vi or Emacs?

Umm... (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:27PM (#12340253)

Soon, Linux development will no longer use this program,

Doesn't he mean GNU/Linux development?

Re:yeeeeeeeeha!!! (Score:3, Funny)

by krautcanman ( 609042 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:28PM (#12340265)

What does Sen. Bill Frist have to do with this?

Ok, raise your hand if.. (Score:1, Funny)

by GOD_ALMIGHTY ( 17678 ) writes: <curt DOT johnson AT gmail DOT com> on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:29PM (#12340270) Homepage

you've been waiting for the RMS "I told you so"?

You know you have. I just wonder what took so long, was GNU/Hurd not booting this week and he finally saw the poll on slashdot?

What cynical minds really want to know is: Did RMS have this one written a while ago and was just waiting to send it?

Missing the point (Score:2, Funny)

by winkydink ( 650484 ) * writes: <sv.dude@gmail.com> on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:29PM (#12340279) Homepage Journal

Soon, Linux development will no longer use this program, and no longer spread the message that non-free software is a good thing if it's convenient

Until something else comes along that suits there needs. I don't recall Linus saying, "Gee, I'll never do that again!"

OK, if you're a Stallman Myrmidon, just mod me as a troll or flamebait now.

Re-read the quote. Now try re-reading it with a cheesy Eastern-bloc accent (Boris Badenov will do in a pinch). How long before Stallman gets up on a podium and starts banging with his shoe shouting, We will bury you!"

Obligatory South Park quote (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:30PM (#12340289)

"Well, I don't want to sound like a dickhole, but I told you so." - Mr. Garrison

Re:A question for RMS (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:31PM (#12340298)

That being the case, after seeing the emacs codebase he'd definately prefer vi. ;)

Re:The more I hear about RMS... (Score:5, Funny)

by amightywind ( 691887 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:32PM (#12340323) Journal

Then go here [gnu.org] and you will love him!

Quote (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:32PM (#12340324)

Quote that describes RMS best:

"RMS is a madman, but fortunatly he's our madman".

Re:A question for RMS (Score:5, Funny)

by millennial ( 830897 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:33PM (#12340326) Journal

Warning: Sense.of.humor not found. Please recompile from the appropriate Bitkeeper repository. ;)

The fortune cookie version of this post... (Score:5, Funny)

by barfy ( 256323 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:33PM (#12340327)

RMS is a lot funnier if you put "Bitch!" at the end of his quote...

Re:The more I hear about RMS... (Score:2, Funny)

by Eberlin ( 570874 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:37PM (#12340386) Homepage

The more I hear FROM Stallman the more scared I am...Hacker Song [gnu.org]

Though hackers may be good with code,
they can't sing, hackers they can't sing!!!
Some sounds can make a person's head explode
Oh the pain, hackers, oh the pain.

Just a joke, RMS, no need to go GNU/Postal on me. :)

Re:A question for RMS (Score:1, Funny)

by advocate_one ( 662832 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:37PM (#12340387)

warning... reader failed to parse winking smiley... please redo from start... ;p

Free as in beer (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:42PM (#12340460)

I cannot understand this analogy. Beer isn't free.
Can someone explain it to me?

Re:he's being quite modest about it (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:47PM (#12340517)

Yes, because being able to download the closed application for free is really useful when the vendor you rely on pulls support, or drops the product.

Oh wait, I'm replying to garcia. I'd better change tack..

HAHA GARCIA YOU'RE ABSOLUTLY RIGHT. THOSE COMMIE FASCIST BASTARDS JUST DON'T GET IT DO THEY? PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND I ARE THE REAL VISIONARIES, NOT THAT RMS GUY. WHATS HE EVER DONE TO ADVANCE THE STATE OF COMPUTING, EH? BILL GATES PERSONALLY ADVANCED THE WORLD WHEN HE CODED WINDOWS 95 ALL BY HIMSELF, LOCKED IN A CELL WITH JUST A PIZZA AND A COMPAQ DESKPRO. THAT LAZY BUM RMS JUST TRIES TO GET HARD WORKING, GOD FEARING COMPUTER PROGRAMMERS TO DO HIS WORK FOR HIM, THE BASTARD! YOU PREACH IT LIKE IT IS, BROTHER! STAND UP FOR THE RIGHTS OF MULTINATIONAL TAX SHIRKING CORPORATIONS! IF YOU DON'T, WHO WILL?

Re:The more I hear about RMS... (Score:2, Funny)

by pomo monster ( 873962 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @04:48PM (#12340527)

Yes, me too.

Re:A little story about convience and free softwar (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:00PM (#12340673)

A blindly pro-OSS post that is otherwise completely worthless with no moderation after more than fifteen minutes? Could it be that this colossal load of shit is even too much of a flag-waver for the notoriously gullible Slashdot crowd?
Let's wait and see, shall we?

Re:Insanity (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:06PM (#12340747)

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Yeah, debugging a race condition makes you crazy.

One of these days (Score:5, Funny)

by dapf73 ( 653029 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:06PM (#12340749) Homepage

We'll see Stallman going into MS with a bunch of C4 strapped to his chest.

Re:Uh - spreading a message? (Score:4, Funny)

by Ciderx ( 524837 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:08PM (#12340767)

Oh man, RMS will be PISSED you have confused free with free, despite the fact that everyone thinks free means free and not, erm, free.

Re:I disagree w/RMS... (Score:5, Funny)

by e1618978 ( 598967 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:14PM (#12340852)

Excellent - I am part of the open source crowd, not the free software crowd. Come on +5!!! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!!!

Re:A question for RMS (Score:3, Funny)

by kfg ( 145172 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:15PM (#12340869)

"... what else would he use..."

vi obviously. He knows to much about emacs.

KFG

Re:A question for RMS (Score:4, Funny)

by chris_mahan ( 256577 ) writes: <chris.mahan@gmail.com> on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:19PM (#12340934) Homepage

in his case, that would be "t"

Re:A question for RMS (Score:5, Funny)

by aichpvee ( 631243 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:47PM (#12341287) Journal

If I'd written emacs I'd still use vi. So what's your point?

RMS (Score:5, Funny)

by rice_burners_suck ( 243660 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:54PM (#12341361)

Our RMS which art in free software, hallowed be thy name. Thy free software come. Thy will be done in free software as it is in free software. Give us this day our daily free software. And forgive us our use of non-free software, as we forgive them that create non-free software against us. And lead us not into temptation to use non-free software. But deliver us from non-free software. Amen.

Re:_Doh_! RMS wrote emacs (Score:3, Funny)

by maxwell demon ( 590494 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @06:00PM (#12341428) Journal

Nah, EMACS = Escape Meta Alt Control Shift

Re:_Doh_! RMS wrote emacs (Score:2, Funny)

by ted_the_canuck ( 594354 ) * writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @06:43PM (#12341977)

EMACS = Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping Fortunately newer computers can run it easily now. I suspect most people that have worked as unix admins know vi, mostly because it was already on the computer.

Re:A question for RMS (Score:2, Funny)

by dgatwood ( 11270 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @06:53PM (#12342103) Homepage Journal

Would that be pronounced "nut" or "nutty"?
I guess it works either way.... :D

Re:_Doh_! RMS wrote emacs (Score:2, Funny)

by sharkey ( 16670 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @07:07PM (#12342270)

Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping Fortunately
Wouldn't that be EMACSF?

Re:A question for RMS (Score:4, Funny)

by cortana ( 588495 ) writes: <sam@robots[ ]g.uk ['.or' in gap]> on Monday April 25, 2005 @07:58PM (#12342711) Homepage

I beg to differ. I remember reading an article about a Free Software conference where some KDE developers demonstrated kvim (http://www.freehackers.org/kvim/ [freehackers.org]) to RMS.

His response was that he didn't know which to feel sorrier for: Vim or KDE. :)

Re:he's being quite modest about it (Score:2, Funny)

by Espressoman ( 8032 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @08:00PM (#12342727)

No, the whole thing being "I told you so" would have read:

"I told you so.
-RMS"

Personally I would have liked to see that.

Re:_Doh_! RMS wrote emacs (Score:3, Funny)

by jrockway ( 229604 ) writes: <jon-nospam@jrock.us> on Monday April 25, 2005 @10:27PM (#12343960) Homepage Journal

It's actually Extensible MACroS. Or Emacs Makes A Computer Slow... that's my favorite. In soviet russia computer makes emacs slow... ah.

Re:_Doh_! RMS wrote emacs (Score:4, Funny)

by connorbd ( 151811 ) writes: on Monday April 25, 2005 @11:47PM (#12344611) Homepage

I use Pico. Emacs is my therapist.

Re:One of these days (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday April 26, 2005 @12:08AM (#12344742)

You get him a hooker but educate her on Star Trek first. Not even the geekiest of geeks would turn down sex for their first time especailly not with a girl who knows her Trek. Bill Gates could do it. He has the money and resources. I bet he owns an entire army of Treky hookers just in case any of us Open Source nerds attempt something.

Re:A question for RMS (Score:4, Funny)

by jweatherley ( 457715 ) writes: <james@nosPam.weatherley.net> on Tuesday April 26, 2005 @03:21AM (#12345704) Homepage

Have you seen the GNU "coding standards"? All based on RMS' personal preferences, all insane.

Just had a look [gnu.org]. Not only does it give coding advice but it also clears up the vi/emacs [gnu.org] question:

When a feature is used only by users (not by programs or command files), and it is done poorly in Unix, feel free to replace it completely with something totally different and better. (For example, vi is replaced with Emacs.)

Re:One of these days (Score:2, Funny)

by DrSkwid ( 118965 ) writes: on Tuesday April 26, 2005 @03:34AM (#12345746) Journal

Try and make it explode

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A question for RMS (Score:3, Funny)

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Ok, raise your hand if.. (Score:1, Funny)

Missing the point (Score:2, Funny)

Obligatory South Park quote (Score:2, Funny)

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Quote (Score:5, Funny)

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The fortune cookie version of this post... (Score:5, Funny)

Re:The more I hear about RMS... (Score:2, Funny)

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Free as in beer (Score:1, Funny)

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Re:A little story about convience and free softwar (Score:1, Funny)

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One of these days (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Uh - spreading a message? (Score:4, Funny)

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RMS (Score:5, Funny)

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